Sexualisation of young girls

Rosie - posted on 05/19/2010

why do other peoplle always have the ability to say what i apparantly can't get across, lol!!?

Charlie - posted on 05/17/2010

Although Pedophiles are an issue and i agree Katie that clothing is no excuse , the main issue here is that these are children .

They are dressed sexually , they are dancing sexually and it just isnt appropriate for a child .
Sex is an adult concept , we as adults understand sex and sexuality , we can choose to dress sexy , act sexy , be sexy , dance sexy knowing why it is we do so , we have full knowledge of what sex means ( at least we should ) we as adults have the right to enjoy sex and sexuality because we should have the information and education to use it wisely , a child can puppet and adult and mimic being sexual but they have no idea of what sex or being sexual entails for both themselves as an individual or for those who would view them sexually , using an adult concept on a child is outrages and wrong on so many levels .

C. - posted on 05/17/2010

Ok, I was actually going to start a thread on this very subject. On Friday, my husband, son and I went to his best friend's house to visit w/ his family (his best friend wasn't home, but the family is like my hubby's 2nd family, they're that close). Anyway, this came up on the TV screen and the volume was down a little bit. We all shut up so we could hear it and we were just appalled. It's really just disgusting! And people wonder why so many more pedophiles are coming out of the woodwork! UGH!!!! People are putting their little girls out there at what cost?? COME ON!!!! This just irritates the crap out of me, I'm sorry.



And you know.. Just last week before my hubby arrived, my son, my mom and I went to the store.. Lo and behold, there was a little girl, about 4 or 5, shaking her butt and moving her arms.. I can't remember what the dance is called for the life of me, but it's a dance you'd see a 20-something do in a club w/, or to, a guy.. Right there in front of everyone!!!! I about lost my appetite (I was getting some groceries for dinner).. It's just sick! The things some people let their kids see and do anymore is just sick!

Rosie - posted on 05/16/2010

i see your point jodi, and i do see how it can be used for child porn, definitely. but, like i said, kids don't dress like that normally and too many kids are already victims, it has nothing to do with the way they're dressed. it's not something that makes a pedophile kidnap and rape your child. they'll do that no matter what your kid is dressed like.

Jodi - posted on 05/15/2010

Quoting Kati:

"bait for a pedophile doesn't cross my mind."



I'm sorry Kati, are you saying you don't think this particular dance routine/video is bait for pedophiles? There is such a problem with child porn download, and this isn't pedophile bait? This is pedophile porn in my opinion. There is someone out there right now probably getting off on this footage. I know I wouldn't want some sick pedophile getting off on footage of my child, that's just disgusting.



I'm not saying that's what you would want, not at all. Just that pedophilia doesn't stop at a physical assault. A pedophile will be happy to get off on that one from afar. So no, it is not quite the same as rape. It is not necessarily about power. Some of these people just get off on this footage. And these are innocent children, there is no need for this. These parents should be ashamed of themselves.

Rosie - posted on 05/15/2010

i don't feel rape or pedophilia has anything to do with the way someone looks or dresses. it's about power over an individual, so for me i can't compare it to letting my child go play in the street. i think that's why i have no problem with bikini swimsuits, it's just a swimsuit. how many kids have you heard of that have been molested were dressed like little whores? not too many i'm guessing cause people don't usually dress their kids like that. it's about power, not what someone is wearing.

Alison - posted on 05/15/2010

ewwwww. It's not so much the dancing that bothers me. It's obvious that these girls are very talented dancers, but what they're wearing is totally inappropriate. It actually draws the audience away from their talent rather than showcasing it.

Christa - posted on 05/15/2010

It's the same as saying that we women must be smart about our dress and actions to not catch the eye of a predator. Nobody is excusing pedophiles, but it's irresponsible to allow your child to dress in a manner that would catch ones eye. And we all know a young girl dressed in appropriate clothing is less likely to draw the unwanted eye of a predator then the girls in this video. It’s the same as if someone hit your child with a car, it’s their fault not your child’s, but you are not going to let your child play in the street TRUSTING that everyone else will do the right thing.

Rosie - posted on 05/15/2010

i think i get what you're saying lea, but at the same time we had this discussion about rapists and what we wear, and how that somehow excuses their decision to rape. it doesn't. i completely agree that these children shouldn't be dressed like that or dancing like that, it disgusted me. however, if a pedophile is interested in your kid, it's not because of what they;'re wearing. how many kids have been molested or raped that were actually dressed like that? pretty close to zero i can bet since most childrens parents don't let their kids dress like that. this clothing is completely innapropriate, and the dance moves were disgusting, however bait for a pedophile doesn't cross my mind.

Lea - posted on 05/15/2010

Michelle, I was not making excuses for pedophiles. I was pointing out the irony of parents who I'm sure don't rationally want people to think of their kids that way, but then encourage their children to do this. Its hypocritical.

Terri - posted on 05/15/2010

This was disgusting! What were the parents thinking when they let their children dance and dress like that! FERAL!

Shelley - posted on 05/15/2010

lets be careful not to make excuses for pedophiles no one should look at this and be turned on or think it gives them the right to interfere with these children although i think this was inappropriate. We shouldn't have to cover up our little girls for fear someone might look at them a bikini on the beach is fine. i think our world is way too sexualised advertising t.v shows magazines everywhere you look it seems that soft pornographic images are around this is what adds to these parents bluring the line between cute and inapropriate

Lea - posted on 05/14/2010

WOW. Some parents are putting lingerie on their tots and teaching them how to gyrate, then they complain about pedophiles. Who is running this show that thinks this isn't child abuse?

Christa - posted on 05/14/2010

I agree Joanna, I won't let my 2 year old’s stomach show in her bathing suits. For me it's because of the sexual predator thing. I don't want to encourage anybody to look at my daughter in a sexual manner. What is wrong with these parents?? I agree they are VERY talented they should be using that talent in a positive manner, not set them up to be little eating disorder sluts. Very sad. . .

Joanna - posted on 05/14/2010

I saw this in another mommy forum I'm on and I still can't bring myself to watch the video (just from the stillframe). I can't even put my 2 year old in a bikini without feeling weird, so the thought of letting her dance around like a stripper in one is beyond me. I can't imagine a responsible adult letting their child do that!

Karissa - posted on 05/14/2010

I do have to say it was very interesting. They are great dancers. But I agree with everything she said. Especially when she said sexual predators use the excuse that they were acting sexy and were aware of what they were doing. It's so true.

Kate CP - posted on 05/14/2010

THAT is fucking disgusting!!! My little 4 year old has a recital tomorrow and they are NOTHING like those girls. That is awful! I can't believe there are parents out there who saw this and went "Yep. I'm okay with that." WTF?!

Jess - posted on 05/14/2010

First off I would like to say WOW, those girls are great dancers and all very talented. I don't think we should take away from all their hard work. But what the hell are their parents thinking. My daughter would not be allowed to pull of some of those moves and NEVER be seen on stage in those kinds of outfits regardless of how talented she was !



I wonder if this is the only dance they have done like this.... or if they have more in their collection. Heaven forbid this is the norm for these young girls. It just sends the wrong message to them, that acting in that way is ok. One would hope this has just been a one off mistake on the adults behalf !

Lucy - posted on 05/14/2010

What a shame to distract from the fact that these kids are very talented with those horrible costumes and dance moves!

The parents should be forced to take parenting classes. I'm not joking. What on earth do they think they are telling their daughters about their developing identities as young women?

If my daughter came home from her dance class with a costume like that and showed me those dance moves, I would kick up such a stink. The teacher/choreographer wouldn't know what had hit her.

Disgusting.

LaCi - posted on 05/14/2010

I'd just like to say, topic aside, I'm extremely jealous. I can't dance, at all, they're very good.

Jessica - posted on 05/14/2010

WHAT THE HELL? Why did they need to be dressed like that? They could have done the dance perfectly fine in decent clothing!!!! What the fuck is wrong with the adults responsible?

Susanne - posted on 05/14/2010

Im sure they never showed any of Alice Coopers more provocative videos on morning tv, i only ever remember seeing his videos on headbangers ball, mtv. I remember seeing Poison vid on top of the pops etc. I do remember seeing one of Shakiras videos on the tv a few weeks back with her cavorting about half naked on a kids tv channel how the hell is that allowed i thought to myself before i changed channel.

Good Day! - posted on 05/13/2010

Those little girls are great dancers. Their technique is amazing. I took dance for 10 years, then was on my high school dance team and I was several years older than them before I could do some of that technique.

But it's a shame that all that beautiful technique was overshadowed by those disgusting costumes and provocative movements.

I remember my mom pulling me out of a specific dance because she thought the dance was too sexy for little girls and that dance wasn't half as bad as what's on this video. Even what we did on the high school dance team was relatively tame, and we were not allowed to show stomach skin when performing.

You really have to wonder what parents are thinking. And thanks Emma for the other video. Yes, that is what dance competitions should look like.

Jocelyn - posted on 05/13/2010

It was sooooo totally and completely fricken awesome ^_^ I'm pretty sure I would have fallen over if not for the sea of people lol.

Charlie - posted on 05/13/2010

OMG I WOULD HAVE DIED !!!!!

I love poison , i would have literally keeled up and had an orgasmic death !!

Jamie thinks its hilarious and gross that i have a crush on him , hahaha .

Jocelyn - posted on 05/13/2010

@ Loureen-- I have the word "Poison" tattooed on my lip in honour of Alice. I was at a concert of his and lets just say I stood out a little (back-combed hot pink hair in a sea of black lol) and I was right up front. When they played that song he knelt down right in front of me and I was "serenaded" Best moment ever!

Jocelyn - posted on 05/13/2010

Ummm...wow. Those girls are great dancers, and I would love one of their outfits (for ME) but the parents, choreographer, and costume designer should all have their heads smashed against something really hard (ie wall, desk, anvil...) My sister teaches dance and I would have her head on a plate if she EVER tried to pull something like that.

Charlie - posted on 05/13/2010

I remember watching Alice cooper every morning on RAGE on the weekends right before cartoons , i had a small crush on him :P

Caitlin - posted on 05/13/2010

If my girl were doing dance class and I saw them practicing a routine like that my daughter woul;d have been yanked out of there before the class as even over! I wonder if that could fall under "corruption of a minor" because that is SO wrong to me. Everyone was so wrong in my mind, I know parents love to see their kids be good at things and show off their talents but i've seen less provocative dances in strip clubs!

Susanne - posted on 05/13/2010

I agree its up to parents to police what the kids watch but when these videos are played on childrens tv channels i think thats wrong. Alice Coopers videos were never played on tv during the day in the middle of the kids tv programmes yet these pop stars are allowed to do just that.

Charlie - posted on 05/12/2010

I was absolutely disgusted by this when i watched in on the morning news , those outfits , those dance moves , who the hell lets their daughters dress like strippers then spread their legs wide open in front of an audience while they gyrate their hips , SOOOOO wrong .

I dont think the artists are to blame , i think the parents who allow their kids to watch and emulate these videos are solely to blame , we as adults should also be able to enjoy watching these video clips , i love lady Gaga's vids but its up to us to make the decision as to whether our kids watch them , sex in music is nothing new , Elvis was once "inappropriate " for his hips swiveling , watching an old Alice cooper video there are women bare breasted in G strings chained up writhing to music .

Rae - posted on 05/12/2010

Humm no wonder they are getting criticized, all i can say is WTF were the parents thinking of ???

Carolee - posted on 05/12/2010

Those little girls are extremely talented and have tons of potential. The parents should know better, though. The choreographer should have known better, too. I also think people (stars and such) should think a little harder before they record a video or put on an outfit. If you are a role-model, it usually means that you're a role-model to multiple ages of people. That's why I don't watch any type of music videos (if I like a song or group, I'll just buy the CD). Too many skanks in Hollywood... then parents are pressured by their kids to let them be like their skanky 'heros'.

ME - posted on 05/12/2010

Disgusting! Those little girls are SO talented and beautiful...WHO in their right mind would allow this to happen to their child?! I am sickened...and as a former dancer, I know how stressful this lifestyle is for girls. Forcing little girls to parade around practically naked is SICK, SICK, SICK!

Tah - posted on 05/12/2010

yes emma...exactly.....look who knew that you could dance without shaking your bum and with clothes ON...that's amazing..who knew..

Tah - posted on 05/12/2010

i almost turned it off before it finished..i only wear things like that in the bedroom for my husband they had to be my daughters age and my husband makes her wear clothing over her dance class leotard and swimsuit..are you kidding me. I can just see the moms in the back cheering this crap on...i mean who ran out of fabric when making the outfits, who choreographed this grown routine for these babies,



I don't give a cat frazzle how well my daughter dances, i would not allow her to do those moves or wear those costumes and i would have ripped out the class before she even finished learning the whole routine and had some choice words for the teacher and the other mothers that thought it was okay...smh...

Emma - posted on 05/12/2010

this is more like what i expect for a kids dance competition

Susanne - posted on 05/12/2010

Problem we have is that we allow our children to watch pop music videos in the first place, i dont know how many times ive turned the tv channel over because my sons were watching some half naked pop star parading around making sexual gestures. These are pop music stars that are basically aimed at children and teenagers. Then of course they are going to copy what they see. There will always be parents who dont see any harm in their kids parading around on a stge like that whether its dancing or these beauty pageants its sick but they cant see it.

Emma - posted on 05/12/2010

WTF where those parents thinking dressing there little girls like that.
im not being funny but if my daughter came home with that dance costume i would be livid plus the dance moves are way to old for kids of that age.
Im not saying our kids need to dress like the Amish but i would of thought common sense would lead to age appropriate dress, hell you would not catch me in a get up like that outside of my bedroom and im 30....

Sarah - posted on 05/12/2010

Urgh. I'm a little lost for words actually!
The outfits were AWFUL for a start, way too "sexy" for the little girls wearing them.
The routine just looked disgusting because the girls were so young.

The parents and whoever choreographed them need a HUGE reality check if they think that's appropriate in any way.

?? - posted on 05/11/2010

Inappropriate and wrong. Those little girls are going to have enough pressure in life being on stage there's no need to add the pressure of growing up too fast and dealing with the side affects of dressing, acting, dancing, behaving and looking like that - without even knowing they're doing anything 'wrong' or bad. The adults in this situation dropped the ball, big time.

Amie - posted on 05/11/2010

Holy hell... not in a million years. Our oldest has taken dance. (Jazz and Hip hop) Her routines were age appropriate and their outfits looked nothing like that. =| So wrong.

Suzette - posted on 05/11/2010

I didn't even watch the entire thing. My husband asked what I was watching so I told him and he said their parents should be smacked for allowing them to dress/dance like that. I agree. That's just wrong, they can dance well but they shouldn't be dancing like that or dressing like that. My dad and mom would've had a caniption!!!

Kylie - posted on 05/11/2010

Oh noo that's terrible:( They are excellent dancers but those moves, facial expressions and costumes are disgusting. So wrong..who ever choreographed and chose to dress the little girls in those costumes should be arrested.

Jessica - posted on 05/11/2010

I think that is disgusting and sad, the girls have talent, they should be getting the attention for that and not for looking like little whores...