Skipping Memorial Day celebration..

C. - posted on 06/01/2010 ( 72 moms have responded )

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Just wondering what you all think of Obama skipping the Memorial Day celebration (at Arlington) to go on vacation??

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Sharon - posted on 06/03/2010

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The opinion that Arlington is the only cemetary that counts is fucking ludicrous.

Memorial day IS a goddamned vacation. Ask any american getting paid time and a half for working that day and the rest of the govt that gets that day off. Its a vacation and is listed as such on my kids school calendar.

If Arlington were the ONLY cemetary that counted then EVERY veteran would be shipped there for burial.

Our local cemetaries are crammed full of war heroes. Usually every year we go and help clean up the cemetaries, place flags, and water the plots. Not just our family plots either. ANY plot we see that has "pvt, cpl, sgt, etc" on the headstone. I'm a die hard marine and you will not besmirch the honor of the country in MY presence.

The president paid his respects in another cemetary. If he visited ours on such a solemn day "I" personally would be over the moon about, even though I'm not that impressed with his efforts at change so far.

Seeing as the local cemetaries are largely religious - I can only imagine the spirits/souls/essence of the dead looking on and cheering that THEIR EFFORTS WERE RECOGNISED by the president of the united states.

I go not only to honor the dead but to show our local alive heroes that WE do care. WE do respect them.

Stop picking nits that obama choose to vacation and do his duty & hopefully honestly pay his respects on such a solemn day.

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"Wow, some of you can be pretty bitchy! Yes, I said it.. Bitchy.

I realize that I may have lost the sight of what was most important, some of you have really given me a new light to look at this from and I appreciate it. For those who were being rude from the start (you know who you are, acting like only Republicans felt this way about it at first, which, BTW isn't true..) You can put a sock in it. I don't need people being rude and bitchy."



It really amazes me that you continue to write things like this and then act surprised when people react negatively to the things you say. There is no excuse for behaving like this in an online forum and this certainly isn't the first time. It might shock you to realize, but lots of people are dealing with difficult things on here and they restrain themselves from outright attacking others. If you can not manage to debate appropriately and you are finding it difficult to even maintain your current level of decorum, perhaps you should stick to other forums with less controversial topics.

LaCi - posted on 06/03/2010

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Wasn't Bush on vacation more than half his 2 terms? God forbid Obama let his kids take a weekend and still manage to honor our troops, as he is supposed to, in the process. I call that multitasking, balancing family and work.

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"Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery has a memorial walk that commemorates soldiers of 20th century wars on 11 memorials.

An 18-foot granite obelisk crowned by a bronze eagle with outstretched wings commemorates the 2,403 Americans who died in the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. It was donated by the Pearl Harbor Survivors Association and dedicated May 12, 2001.

The Blue Star Memorial Marker was donated by the District VIII Garden Club of Illinois and dedicated on September 15, 2000. The marker is a tribute to American men and women who have served, are serving, or will serve their country. Its symbolism dates to World War II when families of servicemen and women displayed a square flag decorated with a blue star in their windows to signify that a loved one was in the armed forces."

Wow, that sounds like an incredibly inappropriate choice for commemorating Memorial Day. How dare he! It makes complete sense why you are so outraged Christina. LOL!

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The citizens and veterans in IL were honored to have our President here with us in Abraham Lincoln Nat. Cemetery. My great Uncle (a war hero from WWII) was buried there last winter...His wife and children were THRILLED, that our commander and chief chose to spend this memorial day here in IL! I think that honoring our vets is all that matters, and he DID that very appropriately. This is just another republican talking point getting repeated over and over that ISN'T true!

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Iris - posted on 06/04/2010

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Christina you are way out of line here.
This is a debating forum and I really don't know what you expect from us. If we don't agree with you, you go off with personal attacks. I've seen you do this many times and I'm sure this is not the last time.
Like Cathy said, this is not Agreeing Moms Forum this is a DEBATING forum. That does not mean that everyone that oppose your opinion are bad or mean, they just have a different way of looking at things then you do and it doesn't make them BAD.
You talk about being overly sensitive.. I suggest that you step away when you feel that way. You seem to be pretty much aware of your feelings and that leads me to think that you should be capable of controlling them to. We all have some pet peeves that get us emotional but that is no excuse for personal attacks!

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Christina, you have received numerous warnings about your attitude towards people with opposing views in this post. This is Debating Mums NOT Agreeing Mums. If you are going to discuss issues regarding your personal life as a reason for your aggressive and rude tone, don't expect sympathy.



We have no option now but to lock this thread. If it's reopened by yourself it will be deleted.

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Carol, if I really cared about your opinion of my life, I would have asked you for it. I do not care for your opinions, which is why I always skip over them. Nothing personal, just tired of the arguments you used to pick (and apparently STILL pick). It doesn't shock me that others are going through things too and don't have a perfect life, but what might shock YOU is that not everyone deals with things the same way and that perhaps I am having a great deal more stress than some of you on here. I mean, my God.. Who knew that having your husband deployed could be so damn stressful.. Please. I'd like to see you in my shoes just to see how you'd react. You probably wouldn't do that much better than me. I like how you always have that 'holier-than-thou' attitude though.. Of course, Carol.. I forgot that you are perfect and others are not allowed to make mistakes. *Eye roll*



And no, this isn't the first time I've lost my cool. What am I going to do, lie about it? Don't think so. The point is, not everyone deals with topics and situations the same as the next person.. We are all different, all going through different things. I even said that I was being too sensitive about it. What else do you want me to do? Good Lord, Carol. This is exactly why I hate reading your posts. You talk about how I react to things and then you push my buttons b/c you know I am going to go off on a tangent b/c you've done it many times before. Do us all a favor and quit trying to stir up drama. Thanks.



And you obviously skipped the rest of my post. Go back and read the part where I thanked the ones who were kind about giving their opinion..

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Haha (/sarcasm).. Well when you say things like you don't get my weird sense of sarcasm, when nothing was sarcastic.. Just doesn't make sense.

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hmmm... I guess my sarcasm didn't come through... Damn, I'm so good at in when I'm speaking! lol

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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@Holly, I wasn't being sarcastic. There was so much more that I felt like saying, but I felt it best that I just keep it to myself. I really don't see how you couldn't get that..



That's lovely, Sharon, and true. But maybe that's the thing.. I don't have 'false excuses'. I have a lot of stress on me right now, which is why after my husband went back from R&R, I still hadn't been on here until now.. And I know you're always 'harsh and bitchy' (your words, not mine).. Partly why my post wasn't exactly pertaining to you b/c I am fully aware that's how you are. Others, on the other hand, have proven that they aren't always that straight forward, for lack of a better term. Which is perhaps why I don't take it so well from them than I do you or other people that have shown their true self before..

Sharon - posted on 06/03/2010

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As a side note... seeing as you are over reacting - as you said - when other things are going on... maybe you should just hold your fingers, rather than your tongue?

ME? I'm always harsh and bitchy but straight forward and don't try to cover myself with false glory or false excuses.

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That didn't seem like holding your tounge to me... But hey, maybe I just don't get your weird sense of sarcasm... Hmmm...

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Wow, some of you can be pretty bitchy! Yes, I said it.. Bitchy.



I realize that I may have lost the sight of what was most important, some of you have really given me a new light to look at this from and I appreciate it. For those who were being rude from the start (you know who you are, acting like only Republicans felt this way about it at first, which, BTW isn't true..) You can put a sock in it. I don't need people being rude and bitchy, I just wanted to hear the other side and I have found that yes I can be a bit too sensitive sometimes, especially when other things are going on in my life (Hence: why it had been a while since I'd been on here..), and yes I should have been happy that he visited another site. It just amazed me that he was so casual about it and it's not something that I, personally, take lightly, so I guess it's hard to see other people take it that way, if that makes sense.



To those who have kindly helped me see this in another light, Thank you. To the rest of you, well.. I think I'll hold my tongue on my opinions about you.

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Christina

I never said it was email sent from the Republican party. I commented how there was one of those stupid emails going around about it.



My statement to the OP does not imply that all Republicans only listen to crap they are fed....I know plenty of sane Republicans who do not subscribe this this kind of drivel.



Really....talk about ignorant



So comical, thanks for all the laughs.

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Great job showing that Carol! All the time I was reading this thread I was thinking, "But doesn't Abraham Lincoln National Cemetary have some pretty prominent war memorials?" My little brother is a military nut (he's in the Airforce ROTC program at UNLV right now and signs up officially this fall! GO KEVIN!!! :D) and I remember him talking about how he's always wanted to go to that particular cemetary BECAUSE of it's military history...

LaCi - posted on 06/03/2010

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and let me repeat, he doesn't HAVE to attend THAT ceremony every year. He HAS been there at THAT ceremony. By not going to THAT cemetery he is NOT disrespecting ANYONE. By acting like that is the ONLY acceptable ceremony he can attend you are disrespecting all the soldiers and their families at the cemetery he did speak at, in my opinion, because they don't matter at all to you apparently.





There are no RULES for commemorating the dead.

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Good point, Joanna.. But to me, if you don't do the honorable thing, that's a mark in the book. If that makes sense.



Very funny, Sharon :/ I hate politics, actually. I do not want a career in it. I just think that people should pay respects when and WHERE they are due. And BTW, my post was in reference to LaCi's post right under yours.. I hadn't read yours yet when I posted.

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Christina, you stated your opinion very passionately. Some people agree, some do not. What you think should be done, does not mean it should always be done in the same manner. Being that we're still seeking our first female President, feel free to step up to the plate so that you may run your Memorial day service where you see fitting. Seriously though, if you are so passionate about certain issues, why not consider a career in politics?

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Let me repeat.. "The Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers (located at the Arlington Cemetery) is a tribute to unidentified soldiers from WWI and I think it's quite honorable for our Presidents to pay tribute to those fallen heroes, not to send their VP out to do their duty for them.."

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Christina, just because you think it's something Obama should have done, because it's tradition, doesn't mean it HAS to be done. Tradition is great and all, but it's not a rule, so why get so heated about it and resort to rude comments? He celebrated somewhere, and to the people who had family buried where he celebrated, that was probably an honor. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean it's wrong.

LaCi - posted on 06/03/2010

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And I'm sure he's never once in his life been to arlington to pay his respects for the dead. Right? OH but I guess it HAS to be every memorial day that he's in office for it to matter. No other cemetery counts, no other ceremony is worthwhile.

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Wow! Very passionate opinions, and I understand that. The President acknowledged and honored those who bravely fought & gave their lives. Just because some people did not like the LOCATION, it's no excuse to bash the President. Sometimes tradition gets broken. Sometimes it takes an act of broken tradition to get people so overly consumed that they lose sight of the big picture. There are always people that will find something to criticize and pick apart. It's human nature. It's time to focus on more serious issues as opposed to where the President did or did not speak.

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True LaCi. It doesn't matter who is in office, he will be criticized and loved at the same time for everything he does. The ones who are critical always speak louder, so we hear those the most.

As for Obama, not the biggest fan. But I don't understand the issue. And yes, I have family in the military. And family that has died while serving.

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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LaCi, give me a break, would ya please? "simple ceremony".. It's not that simple. You may think it is, but it really isn't. The Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers (located at the Arlington Cemetery) is a tribute to unidentified soldiers from WWI and I think it's quite honorable for our Presidents to pay tribute to those fallen heroes, not to send their VP out to do their duty for them..

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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I just think the 'vacation' could have waited until a later time. But you're right, Suzette.. At least he tried, I suppose. And yes, I am always a sensitive person, but may be a little hypersensitive at this time about certain things.

@Dana, Seeing as I don't even get any kind of mail from the Republican Party, I don't see how I would even know about that crap.. Also, I have a mind of my own and can think for myself, I don't need someone else to tell me how to feel. And no, I won't bite you :) I am not exactly sorry for what I said.. Your response was ignorant and implies that all Republicans only listen to things they are fed.. It isn't true. In fact, I think I know more Democrats that listen to that chain mail crap than I do Republicans..

And for those of you who want to know where I got it from.. If you go to almost any local and national news website, it was on there.. ABC News, NBC News, USA Today, I think it was on the Yahoo updates thing.. I checked out a few of them.

@Lea, he most certainly did not go to Arlington, he did go to some cemetery near Chicago (the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, I believe), but he did not go to Arlington and visit the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers..

LaCi - posted on 06/03/2010

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Its not really another topic. We're talking about people "skipping" their duties. We had a guy on vacation more than half his time in office, when I'm sure there was SOMETHING he should have been doing-and something more important than a simple ceremony, and we have a guy who took his daughters home for a few days and still gave his speeches. But we'll bitch about where he gave his speech because its a travesty that he missed ONE cemeteries ceremony and instead attended another.


"seriously, i just don't get how anybody could find fault in this. "

You know why someone would find fault in this. They're looking for any reason to find fault in anything he does. And there will be something wrong with or unacceptable about every.single.thing. he does. Not just Obama, all politicians are cursed this way.

Suzette - posted on 06/03/2010

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@Dana,

I'm glad I haven't seen/heard the republican chain mail crap... then again it's probably because I'm not signed up with any certain political party to receive that kind of chain crap. I hate chain mails. (P.S. Thanks for warning me - albeit indirectly - about the chain mail, I'll be sure to let those that I do know who are republican about it.)

Suzette - posted on 06/03/2010

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Christina, there are quite a few service members (and family) upset, I will admit. However, even as a military wife myself who is quite attached to tradition, I think that perhaps you may be being a bit overly sensitive. I understand why you're upset, these are traditions that our military follows, we expect the CIC to follow them as well. The fact that he attempted to visit a cemetery and pay his respects, at least he did that. I can't say I agree with what he was doing at the time or that he didn't follow the tradition of the country, I would personally prefer he went to Arlington as do many of the service members I know, and their families, but he did TRY to pay respects. Even IF he was on vacation at the time.

As to whether he's taken quite a few vacations more than other presidents, that's another topic all together.

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seriously, i just don't get how anybody could find fault in this. choosing to honor veterans who aren't buried in arlington is a nice gesture. if your loved one was buried in the cemetery he went to instead, would you still be pissed that he didn't go to arlington? and if you would be upset, than i don't know what else to say. seems pretty redonkulous to me to make such a big deal out of this.being upset about healthcare reform i can understand, this is just grasping at straws for reasons to hate the man. what's next?

Dana - posted on 06/03/2010

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Prato, bite me. :P





There is a Republican chain mail going around spewing that ignorant crap.

Krista - posted on 06/03/2010

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I really don't get what the big deal is either. He honoured the day, he was just at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, instead of Arlington. I would imagine that the families of people buried at that cemetery probably were quite pleased to have the President there.

I think some of you are really making a mountain out of a molehill. If Stephen Harper spent Remembrance Day at a cenotaph in Vancouver or Montreal instead of in Ottawa, I really somehow doubt anybody would be freaking out and saying he's disrespecting the troops. And like Gillian said, I doubt people would spaz out if the Queen spent Remembrance Day in Edinburgh or Berkshire instead of London.

Seriously...this is not worth getting all wound up over.

Lea - posted on 06/03/2010

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I heard nothing about this. I heard that he did in fact visit the cemetery and I heard part of the speech in fact. Where in the world are you getting your news?

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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I'm not afraid to apologise, so if you feel my sarcasm was misplaced (I did mean it as a joke) then I'm sorry for that.

I found your post offensive to suggest that I wouldn't understand or care about those who died in war, I still stand by that.

Anyway, I have made all the points I wanted to make on this, I wholeheartedly agree with everything Gillian has said! :)

Lady - posted on 06/03/2010

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It really doesn't matter if he was on vacation as long as he came out and still honored the soliers, I'm sure it's a tradition here to that the Queen goes a certain service but I don't think anyone would bother if she was on holiday in scotland or somewhere and went to a service there - in fact it would be quite nice for the vetrans if she were to go to different places - just because it's tradition doesn't mean it has to be done the same way everytime - maybe Obama will start a new tradition of visiting other places on memorial day!

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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And no, actually.. I don't remember being sarcastic in this thread. I remember being a bit rude, which I admit I am not quite ready to apologize for, but not really sarcastic.

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Well, like I said, Sarah, I wasn't trying to be.. You can sit there and be bitter all you want to be, I've said my peace and have nothing more to say to you.

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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I think your post WAS offensive.
I've made made my point, if you care to address the point I've made, then that's great and we can debate the issue.
On the sarcasm issue, I think some of your posts have included sarcasm, so what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. :)

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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Ok, what a lot of you are failing to realize and was part of my pet-peeve, was that he was on vacation during something that was so important to our country. And yes, I do think that the place is important, too.. It's a TRADITION in our country. Unless the President of the US is out having meetings in foreign countries or taking care of family matters (death of a loved one, etc) they should put their nation's tradition at the top of their list, instead of their vacation.. By the way, hasn't he had more vacations to date than previous presidents have, or at least the few most recent presidents, to date?? I definitely think the 'vacation' could have waited. It was kind of selfish of him, IMO.

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First of all, Sarah, I wasn't trying to be harsh. I spent about 20 minutes trying to write that in the least offensive way possible, so you can take your sarcasm to another thread, please. Thank you.

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We have memorial services in Britain every year and it means a lot to the whole country - you don't need to know someone or have it happen to someone in your family to have it mean something to you - it brings a tear to my eye everytime and I haven't had any serving family members (my grandad tried serevral times during the war but his job was too important) The Queen is head of the Military in the UK - the army, air force and navy and always attends the service and places wreaths as does the prime minister. It doesn't matter which place they go to - it doesn't natter what service they attened as long as they are honoring the fallen soldiers and showing their respect and doing their duty it really doesn't make a difference where they do it as long as they do it - saying because they didn't do it a certain place is just nit picking!

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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Ok, firstly, I have had family serve in war, and even if I hadn't, that doesn't mean i don't understand or care about those who did! So I think you're being a bit harsh to suggest that.

Secondly, my point is, that he DID still honour those who lost their lives. To me, THAT is the important thing, not WHERE he did it!! To say that the place is the MOST important part of it, to me, is ridiculous. It's the remembering and honouring of the fallen soldiers that matters.
Instead, what SHOULD be being remembered, is taken a back seat by people blowing this into a media frenzy about WHERE it took place. I personally think it's disrespectful to take away from what the service what actually about!

But hey, what would i know right? ;)

C. - posted on 06/03/2010

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It's not about whether we 'hate' him or not, Sarah.. It's about whether or not he even respects our country for what it is and the people who have served our country with great honor!!! I suppose some people's opinions are based on whether it directly affects them or someone they know. If it doesn't affect you or your spouse, friend, relative, then you probably wouldn't see the bigger picture. Having several family members fallen overseas in the past several decades, it is as Suzette described it.. A slap in the face.. Not only to my fallen family and other fallen soldiers, but to us (general us) AS the family. You can think that all I'm doing is nit-picking every little thing about him, fine whatever. We all have our opinions. But like I said, if it doesn't affect you or someone you know/knew, then you don't get it at all, so of course you would think that.

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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Yeah, i'm not pretending that i know all the in's and out's of the situation with Obama and this incident.
As an outsider, i think i'm pretty neutral on the whole subject, which maybe is why i don't see the big deal.
It's not like he turned up in his shorts and t-shirt and half-assed it. He just choose to show his respects elsewhere, as other presidents have also done.

I guess the point i was trying to make, is that whether people support him or not, there's bigger things to get annoyed about surely?? He showed his respects, he didn't "skip" Memorial Day.

I just really don't get why it's a big deal. :)

Suzette - posted on 06/03/2010

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Sarah,

"I guess it all depends on how you view it, as an outsider, i see no problem at ALL with what he's done. To those of you who don't support him, i guess it's another way that he's supposedly let you down. It's all about perspective, those who hate him always will, i just think that this is grasping at straws for a good reason to do so. :)"

It's not about those who don't support him, there are quite a few (if not more) of those in the military who do support him that are disappointed. Those who don't are seeing it as the 'figures' more than the let down perspective. I suppose as an outsider it wouldn't make sense. (That's not a jab or a smartass comment, it's a perspective.)

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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Obama probably needed a holiday to recover from every single thing he ever does being twisted into some conspiracy against his country! lol!

I guess it all depends on how you view it, as an outsider, i see no problem at ALL with what he's done. To those of you who don't support him, i guess it's another way that he's supposedly let you down. It's all about perspective, those who hate him always will, i just think that this is grasping at straws for a good reason to do so. :)

Erin - posted on 06/03/2010

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Suzette I understand that nobody here called him that specific term.. I was simply alluding to the fact that there is this absolute hysteria surrounding every little thing this man does.

Suzette - posted on 06/03/2010

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Obama isn't just the President of the United States, he's also Commander in Chief to the U.S. Military.

Most of the Military does see it as disrespect when their Commander in Chief, the person their supposed to follow their orders from, just decides to shrug off traditions as if they don't matter for a vacation. Especially traditions that are honoring their fallen veterans and war heroes.

When it comes to someone who is extremely decorated, who risked their life more than once, they do get somewhat of a pass. Especially when there are thousands of service members who understand the trauma that goes along with what happens when a person puts their life at stake. Such as post traumatic stress disorder. (i.e. seeing those graves could have brought back extreme nightmares if he wasn't still having those nightmares to that day. I know plenty of veterans who still have nightmares some from 9/11 and others from further back.) So being a war veteran when having served for that long, it's not so absurd to get a free pass, nor is it a slap in the face to the military when they understand.

A Vice President is not the Commander in Chief, standing in for that Commander in Chief in the face of tradition when the CIC is on 'vacation' is more of a slap in the face than anything else. Unless he were taking care of an ill relative or the Nation's business, it was disrespectful.

I believe that calling him the "Devil," however, is completely ridiculous, no one referred to him as such or even implied that. If there are people out there saying that, it's just stupid. But this thread isn't about all that, it's about the way he acts toward the Military and treats the Military.

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Christina, calm down girl.
This is a debating forum and everyone is allowed to tribute. Opinion is fine, but telling people to shut it is not.

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You really have no idea what is and is not appropriate for this forum, do you? Now you're saying another member is spewing crap and has her head in her butt!?! YOU CAN NOT SPEAK TO OR ABOUT PEOPLE THAT WAY HERE!!!

Seriously, this is your last warning. You do not get to tell other people that they have no right to their opinion. Nobody told you you couldn't say your piece. Some have agreed with you, others haven't - all completely normal considering it's a debating group. If you perceived Dana's post to be inferring something offensive then you could have easily challenged her opinion without resorting to personal attack and name calling.

Now can we please just get back on topic.

C. - posted on 06/02/2010

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Excuse me, Erin, but when someone is going and spewing crap from their mouth (ie: saying I got it from 'Republican chain mail').. Not only was that a little offensive, grouping all Republicans in the same boat, implying that all of them only go by what they were forwarded through an email and NOT by watching it on the television or looking at an article on a news website, but it was just uncalled for to begin with. I will not sit here and be mocked by someone who refuses to get their head out of their butt when it comes to something someone is so passionate about. If she didn't want to read this thread, she didn't have to. Plain and simple.

And no one needs your sarcasm, either. I never said Obama was the devil or anything of the like, I just think he should show more respect towards our military than he has. He is the PRESIDENT for crying out loud! If he didn't have respect and pride for our country and for our military, then WHY did he want to become President of the United States??? Good Lord, people!

You all can sit here and say that anyone will complain about anything that man does. Some people will, yes, but Heaven forbid he actually does something disrespectful and he gets called out on it.

But now, Erin, now that we're on that subject of someone calling Obama the devil.. Why do some people act like he's God Himself, hmm? Yeah.. Thought so.

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So we'll just add this to the list of why Obama is the Devil then, will we? Honestly, it feels like some people will moan about ANYTHING when it comes to him. If Obama had made some huge spectacle at the Arlington ceremony, people would have accused him of stealing the limelight from the fallen soldiers :|

From what I can gather from this thread, he attended a smaller ceremony elsewhere to commemorate the day. I honestly don't see what the big drama is.

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I find it kind of absurd that being a decorated veteran would get a person a free pass out of something. Especially something such as this when some people feel so strongly about it. /:) To me, that's a bigger slap in the face then a civilian not attending.

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As for Obama. Should he have gone? Probably but Biden was there in his absence was he not? That's what VP's are for. He tried to attend one in Chicago but it got rained out. He was still honoring the fallen. I really don't think it matters where he was, so long as he was doing it.

Erin - posted on 06/02/2010

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Christina, telling another member to 'shut it' is completely unacceptable. This is a DEBATING forum. Everyone's opinions are valid, even if you happen to disagree. Your posts will be deleted and the thread locked if this continues.

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