Taking The Toy out of the Happy Meal?

Angela - posted on 02/09/2011 ( 795 moms have responded )

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All of us may have heard of this,by now.

What are your thoughts?

Personally I think its ridiculous! parents Just arent parents anymore.Instead of actually Telling our children "NO" when they want to go to McDonald's For a Happy Meal cause of the toy,and putting up with the "challenges" of our children getting upset cause they want one, Parents Instead choose to turn it around on the society and media of fast food.Thats Like the obese person suing McDonalds cause there 400lbs.

Here is the link to the video:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/209695/abc-nig...

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Jenny - posted on 02/09/2011

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I support banning marketing to all children across the board. If you aren't old enough to get a job to pay for thier goods, they have no right to coerce children into begging thier parents to buy it for them. Marketing IS brainwashing, it's the actual definition (look it up).

Becky - posted on 02/15/2011

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Well, I have never studied marketting, but my guess would be, short answer, marketing is everything that is done to get you to buy a particular product or service. So, the bright colors and fun characters on the cereal boxes, the placement in the grocery store, the catchy songs, the "health check" symbol placed on the front of the box to make you think it's a healthy choice, adding "new and improved" features... and so on and so on. It's naive to say that we are not swayed by marketting. We are swayed by marketting. If you've ever gone into the store and tried a new product because the box caught your eye or it was featured in the front of the store, then you've been swayed by marketting. Most parents do not set out to feed their children a steady diet of crap. They want to do what's right for their kids. But when the box of Lucky Charms screams "Now with whole grains and 5 essential nutrients!" and your kids are begging for it because of the marshmellows and rabbit on the box, you think, "well, whole grains are healthy, right? And my kids do need iron!" So you buy the Lucky Charms. Yes, as parents we have a responsibility to look deeper into these things, but let's face it, we're busy and often stretched to the limit anyways. How many parents have time to spend hours on the internet researching all those additives and preservatives, etc? So parents make the easiest choices. All people who are against marketing unhealthy products directly to children are asking for is a little help in making the correct choices a little easier to make. If they were, I believe that more people would actually make the right choices. Would there still be shitty parents who feed their children nothing but sugar and fat? Sure. Just like there are still parents who beat their children despite it being illegal. But there would be fewer of them, because those parents who really want to make the right choices but are just too tired, busy, overwhelmed, uneducated, etc to do so, would be empowered to start making better choices.

Jenny - posted on 02/14/2011

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I think I should go into marketing and put my power to evil. You guys are pushovers. No wonder the economy is so fucked, power to the corporations and nobody gives a shit about fighting for the little guy. It's sad and it's wrong. When 8 year old are waddling through the halls at school I stop giving a crap about the parent’s “choice”.



I think it's hilarious that you gals all think you’re so much smarter than these companies. They are hiring child psychologists specifically to create solid brand associations from birth to the grave for their products and you’re not willing to lift one fucking finger to make it fair for the consumer. The CHILD consumer who is being brainwashed from day one, just like our generation was.



So, let me make this perfectly clear:



1. The kids are not kicking and screaming to get what they want. The parents are giving it to them willingly as they want it to. You don't see fat kids with fit parents.



2. If you eat junk food in moderation THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU.



3. If marketing wasn't effective it wouldn't have the cash flow it does. You are not smarter than the corporations. Check your ego and get over yourself, marketing affects ALL OF US, including me.



4. Marketing occurs on a level you don't have conscious control over. This part is vital.



5. Marketing is THE DEFINITION for brainwashing. This is not my opinion; this is straight out of the dictionary.



6. Banning marketing to children is ONE PART of a greater educational movement towards healthy living.



7. This one is also vital, not all moms are as smart as "you". Stop putting your parenting techniques onto them, it doesn't work that way.



8. Our children's generation is the first one expected to not outlive their parents. This is a problem and we should be making them more of a priority.



9. All junk food is bad outside of moderate use, this specific thread is just about McDonald’s.



Did I miss anything? If you fought as hard for the kids as you do for the companies we might get somewhere positive.

Becky - posted on 02/16/2011

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Banning marketing to children would help though. I would LOVE it if they would move all the candy bars away from the cash registers and out of reach of my children. My son grabs one every damn time we go shopping! Sometimes he starts opening them too! I do say no, most of the time, but sometimes, it's just more effort than I can muster. If the leprechaun and the rainbow were on the Kashi box instead of the Lucky Charms, kids would ask for Kashi. If a bag of carrots did not cost the same amount as an entire case of Kraft dinner, people might buy the carrots instead of the KD. Both Marina and Laura are right. Education to parents and kids matters, but changing the way corporations do things also matters.

Isobel - posted on 02/14/2011

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The reason I asked you about lead paint and car seats is because I was beginning to think you were just a libertarian...and while I disagree with libertarians, I understand the underlying fundamentals of their beliefs...NO regulations, anywhere for anyone, for any reason...but YOU just pick and choose which ones YOU think are worthy, so...it's simply bias as opposed to a political and economic philosophy.

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Lindey - posted on 02/08/2012

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It is not the restaurants fault that parents buy the food for their kids. Even if they got rid of the toy busy parents will still buy fast food. You can not blame a company because people buy their food. I have never heard a McDonald's ad that said eat this food everyday because its good for you. lol... People need a reality check. If you made hamburgers at home everyday and that is all you eat you will still become obese. Does that mean we should stop selling hamburger meat? No it means you need to just learn how to make healthier choices and stop letting society take your rights or other peoples rights away. This is supposed to be a free country if someone wants to become obese they have a right to make that choice.

Lindey - posted on 02/08/2012

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My thoughts on taking the toy out of the happy meal: I think its stupid to do this. If my child is having a good week or day I reward him with a happy meal. There are times he doesn't even play with the toy but it gives me an inexpensive way to reward him. McDonald's and other fast food restaurants are offering healthier choices now like apples instead of fries. I don't think its a good idea to feed your child fast food everyday but once a week or twice a week is not going to cause obesity. Society wants us to take it away just so kids don't ask for fast food but fast food is everywhere and kids are going to eat it regardless of if there is a toy inside or not. I wish parents would just take responsibility for their actions as a parent and let the rest of us take care of our children. Whats best for one person might not be best for the next. To the parents who think its a good idea to do this why don't you just not allow your child to eat fast food. Just because you don't want your child eating a happy meal doesn't mean you have to go out there and ruin it for the rest of us. Let us make our own choices. Lately it seems as though these small groups of people are slowly trying to take our rights away. Even the talk about higher taxes on sodas and junk food makes me sick. Guess what people will buy it regardless. Doctors will tell you its ok to have these things in moderation. So as long as your responsible with it what is the problem?

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So i dont remember the last time i actually posted to this debated but a little afterwards i actually ended up working at Mcdonalds and all i could remember was this thread haha. Well i dont work there anymore but on the occasion i sure do love to eat there!! #TeamMcdonalds \(^.^)/ haha

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So i dont remember the last time i actually posted to this debated but a little afterwards i actually ended up working at Mcdonalds and all i could remember was this thread haha. Well i dont work there anymore but on the occasion i sure do love to eat there!! #TeamMcdonalds \(^.^)/ haha

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So i dont remember the last time i actually posted to this debated but a little afterwards i actually ended up working at Mcdonalds and all i could remember was this thread haha. Well i dont work there anymore but on the occasion i sure do love to eat there!! #TeamMcdonalds \(^.^)/ haha

OhJessie - posted on 06/06/2011

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A spammer? Where? Ugh.

Tine, there's no such thing as being "addicted" to french fries or chicken nuggets lol. They aren't drugs. You might be dependent on the caffeine in the soda but that's from a lot more than just happy meals.

Really, FatHead the documentary (available for instant watch on netflix; blows the Spurlockian crap right out of your head) ought to be required watching :D

OhJessie - posted on 06/06/2011

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It's ludicrous, and it's wrong. If McDonald's wants to sell me a meal with a toy in it for 50 cents and I want to buy it, that's between me and McDonald's. Sometimes I do buy myself a happy meal with a toy, if they have something good available and I'm not very hungry. If people don't want the toy they can tell the store not to put the toy in; they have no right to try to BAN it for the rest of us.

Jodi - posted on 04/21/2011

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Ok, I'll send a message to Catherine.....but from what I gather, if she is warned 3 times, she will automatically be blocked? Not sure how that works though.....

Jodi - posted on 04/21/2011

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I reported it too Loureen....she's spamming everywhere. Blocked her from the welcome page just in case......

Tine - posted on 03/01/2011

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McDonald's are such a terrible, unethical organisation that my daughter will not, if I have anything to do with it, ever be exposed to a single 'happy' meal. This is an organisation that runs a sick kids' 'charity' in Australia, then uses their promotion day of it to make four times as much profit for themselves than normally. An organisation who's stated goal is to make EVERYONE eat their food, regardless of whether that even makes them a profit. One that will sue anyone who publicly comments on them (so I'd better watch out ...!) no matter how small or how true the comment.

Any fast food company that uses toys to trick parents into getting thier kids hooked on this awful product as young as possible deserve to be blamed for whatever of society's ills they are copping the blame for.

Appalling company, any flack they cop is great as far as I'm concerned.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I want to give *KUDOS* to the OP Angela Vasquez for opening up such a great debate. I have never been part of one that has lasted for so many posts! Great job! Keep them coming!

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Meh, it's all good! BUT, just for the record, I didn't actually call her a bitch. BEING bitchy and being A bitch, are different......are they not? I'm being totally serious.....I don't want to rehash shit but she was being snarky or "bitchy" and I addressed that. I never said she was a bitch. I just want to be clear about that.

Ok, now I'm done!

Sara - posted on 02/16/2011

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It makes me happy that you guys kissed and made up, but I still deleted the comments!

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's all good now. She didn't slip me the tongue but I'm pretty sure she accepts my apology??!! After all, she DID say she's pick up the pony and mail it.

Sara - posted on 02/16/2011

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Ok, I'm going to have to edit here folks...calling someone a bitch is not appropriate and is a violation of No THUMPS...let's all play nice together!!!

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Can you pick up the blue 'My Little Pony' for Roxanne? It's the only one that she doesn't have from the collection.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Maybe we will stop for a happy meal on the way home ;)

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I'm sorry I suggested or implied that you are a bitch. Such is not the case.



I'm still waiting for world peace. Can we tackle that next?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Need to pick up my son from school....have a lovely day ladies. Once again, this thread has run its course....

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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YES Laura, we are on the same side of the fence, just different ideas...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Yes Dana, I am aware of that....Have I ever said I did not know this???? Nope, but thank you for trying to tell me I don't know the difference. I am simply saying that I have NOT seen any fast food commercial geared towards kids in a looooooonnnnnnnggggggg ass time.....it is an observation that I was sharing.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Dmak and Marina, they are going to shut this down if you keep bickering...we don't even disagree enough to be arguing, we ARE kinda all on the same side.

I just misunderstood that I THOUGHT marina was saying that it was ONLY the parents fault and that marketing played no role...I was wrong, it's done.

LaCi - posted on 02/16/2011

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pffft. Everybody knows if you eat mcnuggets you grow a dolphin like torso and set olympic records.

Nikkole - posted on 02/16/2011

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Yea i see the ones towards adults to! AND every single commercial the kids/adults are skinny and healthy looking which is HORRIBLE if they really wanted to show how McDonald's affects children and adults they would show obese people eating it not the other way around!

LaCi - posted on 02/16/2011

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They've resorted to guilting you into eating bad food now? That's pretty smart.

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You and Laura DO have some kind of understand or commonplace but this is a debate so I'm arguing with certain aspects of your comments. Is that not what we're supposed to do?

Oh, and you mentioned that you haven't seen any commercials aimed at children, Marina, but that doesn't mean they're not there and AGAIN, marketing is not just advertising. :))

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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The other one I see all the time is Happy Meals "Kids helping Kids" showing kids going to get happy meals so that kids in the hospital can have family with them...nice

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I haven't seen any in ages Nikkole. They have ALL been geared towards adults.

LaCi - posted on 02/16/2011

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I haven't seen a McDonalds commercial since the olympics. :)

I consider it a bonus to refusing to give the cable company money for horrible programing.

Nikkole - posted on 02/16/2011

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These commercials get on my last nerve its like if you eat Mc Donalds you will be happy or something actually you will feel like CRAP because the food is crap lmao!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Ok...when I was leaving...I felt Laura and I had come to some understanding...then someone comes and stirs the shit back up...and I am the fucking bad guy??? Are you flipping kidding????? What a joke.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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for the record her plan is this

Stop the marketing of unhealthy things to children
AND Educate the parents
AND stop eating there.

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Laura didn't say that she didn't agree with your plans, Marina.....she just wants you to accept and acknowledge that the marketing needs to be addressed AS WELL.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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that's what I've been saying....that's why I've been asking you why you are fighting with me.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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@ Laura "I agree with Nikkole's plan" OMFG! I have been saying that exact thing....now I know you are all just arguing to bust my chops and fight to fight. Nice.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Yup Nikkole....and once again...I have not seen a commercial directed at children from McD or BK (or other fast food places for that matter) in a very long time. Just proves my point.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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in fairness Marina, many of your posts have appeared to be fairly contradictory and confusing. I have read them all and I still don't know what "find the source and start there" means...so...



I agree with Nikkole's plan

Nikkole - posted on 02/16/2011

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Well i guess the ONLY way to stop actually stop all this is 1. STOP marketing to children (unless its healthy food like subway) 2. MORE education for parents!! But how are we going to get places such as MC Donald's to STOP marketing to kids i guess protest and NOT eat there food?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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First of all, give me a freaking break Dana. BIG *EYE ROLL* and *SIGH*. Of course this is about advertising to BOTH adults and children. If you cannot see that, then you are not seeing the reality of that.

I am being so snarky and sarcastic is becouse it is obvious you have not read all my comments before you jumped on Laura's bandwagon...pretty typical of these kind of debates though.

I said LOFTY Jenny, not unrealistic, or goals we should not try to reach. I was meaning BIG goals, not unetainable...or lets not try cause it would be hard. You are right...I am being a realist...becouse I think those things CAN work. I would not have suggested them if I didn't think that was the way to do it. This is the second time I have made those suggestions by the way.

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