Taking The Toy out of the Happy Meal?

Angela - posted on 02/09/2011 ( 795 moms have responded )

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All of us may have heard of this,by now.

What are your thoughts?

Personally I think its ridiculous! parents Just arent parents anymore.Instead of actually Telling our children "NO" when they want to go to McDonald's For a Happy Meal cause of the toy,and putting up with the "challenges" of our children getting upset cause they want one, Parents Instead choose to turn it around on the society and media of fast food.Thats Like the obese person suing McDonalds cause there 400lbs.

Here is the link to the video:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/209695/abc-nig...

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Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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AND yes, consumer protection laws change every day, it is more than possible to make marketing unhealthy products to children!

Jenny - posted on 02/16/2011

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Lofty goals should be our only goals, don't be such a pessimist (I know, you'll counter with I'm not, I'm a realist). Egypt overturned their 30 year ruler in 18 days using Facebook. Surely we can do good things too.

How will it ever? Oh I don't know, maybe we could pass legislation?

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"Right now there are advertisements on the left side of my screen for General Mills junk cereals...is that making me want to buy Trix or Cocoa puffs? Nope...."

We're not talking about marketing and advertising directed at the adults. We're talking about marketing young children. Jeebus.

"My poiint????????????? FIND THE SOURCE OF IT AND START THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dontcha think? ooops...obviously not."

Not sure why you're being snarky and sarcastic, but if you don't feel like debating anymore then kick rocks and go be bitchy to someone else. Oh, and P.S. I DO agree that we need to find the source and address the issues from the ground up BUT in the MEANTIME, we also need to address the marketing.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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how can you truly educate people when they have bigger, better, shinier, happier info being given to them that shows that what we are saying isn't true?

In order for us to educate...we MUST remove the misinformation FIRST!

and hitting them in their wallet is exactly what this lawsuit is trying to do.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am talking reality...if the advertising and marketing isn't getting regulated now, how will it ever????? These companies that are paying them are so wealthy from all of its consumers, outright stopping buying there products will get the message across. maybe then things will change.



*edited to add* it is going to take some serious uproar to make something change. that is the point I have been trying to make this whole time.....

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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The fact that junk, ff, whatever is still advertised really is just cementing already bad behavior. Eating habits need to change before marketing/advertising ever will.....

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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No, but thank you I am not naive Dana. Obviously you are not reading clearly what I am saying. that is fine. Right now there are advertisements on the left side of my screen for Geberal Mills junk cereals...is that making me want to buy Trix or Cocoa puffs? Nope....is it reminding someone else to pick it up at the store cause they ran out? Possibly. I have NEVER ONCE SAID marketing/advertising doesn't work...doi...they do. I am saying that at this point I think it is an educational situation FIRST! Hear me out...

I feel that as parents we need to educate our own children on nutrition..duh....then we need to go to the schools with this, becouse some parents DON"T know it is bad...becouse it DOES advertise "8 grams of whole grain/calcium" (just giving the cereals as example again) some people truly do not know...then it goes public such as commercials AGAINST junk food...then maybe protesting so these marketing/advertising companies and all the junk food & Fast food companies start to realize we do not want this stuff. It needs to start somewhere...marketing/advertising is not going to change until the potatoe chip, fast food, candy companies are hit where it hurts....,there wallet...how do we do that?????? Stop buying there food....how do we do that>????????? educate people how bad it is and how to eat healthier........what happens next?????????? big food corporations have to find another way to make money....

All of this is lofty goals, so is being naive and thinking that big marketing companies are going to magically change there ways. It starts small and builds.

My poiint????????????? FIND THE SOURCE OF IT AND START THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dontcha think? ooops...obviously not.

Jenny - posted on 02/16/2011

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I like thos eideas and my school is currently doing that. They have a fresh fruit program and the kids are not allowed to bring junk in their lunches. So, it's progress.

The next step is to think big and force the corporations to contribute to this education campaign so it's coming from all sides.

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"I think finding the true source of the problem, and fixing it from there. To me, this means education...starting at home...going to schools, protesting..etc...lost of different ways that CAN help."

THAT is GREAT, AS WELL AS regulating the marketing that large corporations do.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I don't know if you are specifically pointing your finger at me for "blaming people" but I was never doing that.

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"...to really make a change, and to get marketing/advertising to change, you need to start at home...educating people...."

AND IN THE MEANTIME why not regulate the marketing and advertising? Why are you so opposed to it? And, I picked up on your "slightly sarcastic tone" so no need to point out the obvious! ;)

AND, I AM running to Laura's side (not that she needs any help) because I COMPLETELY agree with everything that she's saying. She knows her shit. She's not disregarding anything you're saying, but you are. You ARE naive to think that regulating the marketing will not have a significant impact on the planet.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I think finding the true source of the problem, and fixing it from there. To me, this means education...starting at home...going to schools, protesting..etc...lost of different ways that CAN help.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Hey Jenny...I had alot of ideas for ways to make it work...I have already posted those also...

Jenny - posted on 02/16/2011

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Laura was saying she doesn't care who to blame because it doesn't matter. We could debate for 700 posts on who's fault it is, wait a minute......, OR we could come up with a plan of action that may actually see results. Perhaps brainstorming ideas to reduce junk/fast food consumption could be more productive than pointing fingers on how they got fat in the first place.



Oh and I'm getting sick of reading an idea won't work because it's too hard or too big of an idea. Screw that.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I KNOW we are essentially arguing the same thing...just different perspectives...infact I have said that...now 3 times.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Yes Dana, thank you so much for pointing out the same thing that I have been saying (slightly sarcastic tone) You do not need to run to Laura's side. I completely understand what she is saying, and i hope she understands what i am saying....I never got to finish my thought on my very last response...baby started crying...and here it is....

Laura was making it very clear she did not care WHO was to blame, or where it started...meaning if it was the parents school etc...that it did not matter...kept trying to say that I strictly blame the parents. Her stance was strictly that Marketing and Advertising were where the problem lies. That is what I was debating with her...to really make a change, and to get marketing/advertising to change, you need to start at home...educating people....so if they stop buying these products maybe all the junk food industries will take a back seat to the healthy options...maybe even change there ways....I was also saying to start trying to do something about it.

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Marina, you said, "I think she is being naive to think it is all marketing."

She NEVER said it was ALL marketing....not once! You guys are on the same page but she is just putting more weight and emphasis on the marketing that the larger corporations do.

LaCi - posted on 02/16/2011

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Does this only apply to horrifically unhealthy kids meals? Or are they going to jump all over subway for their little deli kids meals too?

LaCi - posted on 02/16/2011

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Banning the food would help even more

You want a french fry? You better start peelin' some taters. Work for it! ;)

Becky - posted on 02/16/2011

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Banning marketing to children would help though. I would LOVE it if they would move all the candy bars away from the cash registers and out of reach of my children. My son grabs one every damn time we go shopping! Sometimes he starts opening them too! I do say no, most of the time, but sometimes, it's just more effort than I can muster. If the leprechaun and the rainbow were on the Kashi box instead of the Lucky Charms, kids would ask for Kashi. If a bag of carrots did not cost the same amount as an entire case of Kraft dinner, people might buy the carrots instead of the KD. Both Marina and Laura are right. Education to parents and kids matters, but changing the way corporations do things also matters.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Once again, marketing and advertising is just kicking us while we are already down. It is an individuals choice as a consumer where they want to spend there money.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am NOT against what Laura is saying,...as she has said to me...I think she is being naive to think it is all marketing. I think it is beyond that at this point. It is just kicking us while we are already down so to speak. Poor eating habist start at home....and then are carried into the real world. I will admit, my son was not exposed to most junk food until he really started being exposed to other peoples kids. I take responsibility for that becouse I chose to bring junk into the home...make sense?

I truly think it is far beyond marketing and advertising. We all know it is out there, they can surely introduce "NEW" junk options...but nothing will change until we STOPT BUYING IT! This comes from the educational portion of it.

Many people think that 1-2x per week junk food "isn't so bad" That is ALOT! Once per month is ok, but 1x or more per week can blossom into 3-4x per week. Pleople need to be ecucated how poor of an option this is....if there was never another McD commercial, or BK commercial again, I really don't think it will stop people from going there. There are far to many, in convinient locations...it is far to convinient for a quick lunch or dinner...or even breakfast.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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and part of educating parents is to cut of the MISinformation that is coming from the corporation.

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Marina, I have a question for you? You and Laura BOTH have some really great ideas. You are vehemently disagreeing with her about the marketing though. Do you actually believe that regulating the corporations like McDonald's won't at the very least play a part in helping to change things?



I understand what you're saying and I think education is extremely important, BUT BUT BUT, you guys cannot disregard what Laura is suggesting. Things need to change on several levels. Educating the general public is great and NEEDS to be done but by cutting off the marketing at it's knees, seriously cripples the the companies who take advantage and play on people's ignorance, WHILE you find a way to educate the PLANET.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Nope, think I am done with this thread. I think it has run its course!

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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I apologize, as I said, my intention was to make people feel like jerks because THEY were suggesting that people who feed their kids that way are lazy and stupid...not to make people who feed their kids that way (I think I stated over and over again that I fed my kids fast food)

So I've apologized, I've explained, I've said I won't do it anymore (cause clearly people didn't understand what I was trying to say).

next?

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Peggy said, "Unless you feel that ALL unhealthy, junk food, candy etc gets banned..."

She's not suggesting to ban the fucking foooooood.....she's suggesting that the MARKETING needs to be regulated. UGH!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Making a person feel like a jerk for their choices are not going to help. Infact, IMO it just makes people defensive.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Like I said, I don't believe that...when I was a single working mother, my kids ate a lot more fast food than I would like. I still take them there from time to time.

I just get frustrated when people say that marketing doesn't work...people are just too lazy to say no to their kid or it's "common sense" that it's not healthy.

so I take their words and twist them to make them ugly so that they will understand what they are really saying.

Mary - posted on 02/16/2011

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Bernie Madoff is in prison for defrauding thousands of middle to upperclass people out of their money in the largest ponzi scheme ever. Just an fyi...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Thank you. I found it offensive personnaly becouse my son will have junk, but he also eats super healthy.....like you would not believe. I have no problem with him eating the good with the bad, especially since he only started having "junk" in the past year really. I don't feel people are stupid when it comes to balance. I don't feel people are stupid when it comes to simply not being educated. Nor do I thin people are stupid that take the easy way out or convinience...to me, that still boils down to healthy eating education...wich in turn starts at home like I have been saying this whole time.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Then I will stop...because it's not what I believe...I am simply pointing out the ugliness of other people's argument.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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"stupid lazy people' might be your way of "removing pieces of peoples arguments" but it is just calling names.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Yes Laura, but it ALL begins somewhere. Laws are not changed simply by 1 persons ideas, it takes a lot of voices for that. It can start locally and grow rapidly. But, laziness does come into play there. It would take time, energy and gumption to start something like that. Maybe taht is why it hasn't started yet. A bunch of people bitch about it, but never do anything about it isn't going to change a damned thing.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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"stupid, lazy people" is my way of removing a piece of the opposition's argument...their argument is always that THEY feed their kids that way because THEY are too lazy to say no to their kids...and marketing shouldn't change because it's not the company's fault that people don't have "common sense"

I don't really believe that these people are lazy and stupid...I just get sick of hearing that part of the argument, so I make it for them.

I disagree with you that anything can be done locally...it does need to be legislated or people need to win this lawsuit.

Other than that...I guess we kinda agree.

Peggy - posted on 02/16/2011

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But it needs to start in educating the parents... Unless you feel that ALL unhealthy, junk food, candy etc gets banned... Parents will continue to feed them the crap from the grocery stores. I'm not sure if it was you who stated "if I can get one person to see it differently then that's a start".... Same with educating parents ... Right? YES, there will always be those parents who do what they want to do regardless... car seats/seat belts as a prime example.

And I have it on our local channels until my daughter gets home from school then it goes on Disney or Nick. Maybe it's because I live in Florida. ;)

I just feel like people will fool themselves by thinking if ff has "regulations" that parents will stop going there... It's almost like a "out of sight, out of mind" solution... Not a true fix to the problem.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I think it is ok to splurge...I think it is ok to eat junk food. All in moderation. this is learned at home and really at school.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am really not fighting with you...I am trying to show you it starts at home....that you obviously are very intense about this issue and should start DOING something in regards to it. It has to start somewhere....also that education needs to begin at home. That way marketing/advertising loses its effect on people. It is not just the big bad companies...who you clearly blame....then the "stupid lazy people". i thik you generalize this issue to much.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am also saying that the big companies like McD and burger king have been soley marketing/advertising towards adults lately.....you keep seeming to miss that..

I have also said, that if McD takes the toy out of the happy meal, they will lose a ton of business...including MY occassional visit for my son...who...gets a happy meal.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Please explain your entire position and solution in one post so that I can believe you are not just arguing to piss me off...cause that's kinda what it seems like you are doing.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Once again, we are supporting the same thing, different perspectives. You think just eliminating marketing and starting there will change things. I don't. I think you need to start small and work up to get heard. I have said many times where I stand, and how I feel. I have opened many doors...you just go back to the same repetetive answers.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Sitting at your computer on CoM and only doing "your part" with your children is not going to change a thing.

And OBVIOUSLY consumer protections laws are not doing its thing...otherwise there would not be a problem ;)

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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This whole thread is about whether or not you supported A LAWSUIT AGAINST MARKETING TO CHILDREN

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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I thought you were saying we shouldn't try to get rid of marketing to children...what IS your position? Please state it clearly in one post so that I can understand it...because perhaps I've got you mixed up with somebody else...but it feels like you're just arguing with me to argue...you don't really seem to BELIEVE anything.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Laura, I have offered so many ways to start...have you? Um...nope.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Start small, like all the other suggestions that I had, and get people educated and enraged. Sorry, but that is how the big companies start to listen...or a lawsuit.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Tell me, in your theory, after you find out who to blame (clearly the parents) THEN WHAT?

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