Taking The Toy out of the Happy Meal?

Angela - posted on 02/09/2011 ( 795 moms have responded )

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All of us may have heard of this,by now.

What are your thoughts?

Personally I think its ridiculous! parents Just arent parents anymore.Instead of actually Telling our children "NO" when they want to go to McDonald's For a Happy Meal cause of the toy,and putting up with the "challenges" of our children getting upset cause they want one, Parents Instead choose to turn it around on the society and media of fast food.Thats Like the obese person suing McDonalds cause there 400lbs.

Here is the link to the video:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/209695/abc-nig...

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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And once again, marketing to children and adults is NOT going to change unless there is some sort of uproar. Doi.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am trying to say to you, get off your high horse, and practice what you preach. You are blaming everyone, and offering NO solutions.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I live on Earth, where people standing up and shouting for what they so dearly believe in can be changed...nice to meet you.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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and like I said I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY...I JUST KNOW THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO STOP IT.

Tell me, in your theory, after you find out who to blame (clearly the parents) THEN WHAT?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Laura "and I was addressing the ban on marketing those products to prove that it's POSSIBLE"

It is 2 different things, one is illegal to sell to minors and the other is not. Apples and oranges.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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This is becoming redundant. I see that you soley put blame on marketing/advertising and"stupid lazy people". It all starts somewhere, and the source is the home. Providing education and opening up peoples eyes is the way to go. Not the big companies that will crush you like an ant. You are just to set in your views to see the reallity behind it.

Once again, are you going after the big companies? Cause that is what you are suggesting, or are you going through legislation? Are you protesting and getting peoples attention? Cause there is a big world out there. You can start at home with your own family, but you sure sound like you mean to do all the things I have said.

How would we get the "corporations to behave fairly and ethically" unless people are out there shouting and doing something on behalf of these "lazy, stupid uneducated" people?

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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They are not illegal but repeated exposure is making kids sick in epidemic proportions...it HAS to stop

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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and I was addressing the ban on marketing those products to prove that it's POSSIBLE

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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and AFTER you find the right person to blame...what then? There will always be lazy parents who don't do what they are supposed to, the only way to help the children of these parents is to force corporations to behave fairly and ethically.



again, why is it so impossible to expect corporations to behave fairly and ethically?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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@ Laura "How is it unrealistic? They've already made it illegal to market cigarettes and alcohol to children. It's ENTIRELY doable...and worth doing."

Alcohol and cigarettes are different. They are illegal to purchase before a certain age. That is part of why they had to stop advertising/marketing towards youth. Fast food, and junk food are NOT ILLEGAL!

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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I've already seen one today...bah dah bah bah bah and this is not the type of issue that can be solved at the community level, it is the type of problem that requires legislation at the national level.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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We are arguing the same thing...just different perspectives.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am saying you need to find the source of the problem in the homes first. That is where you need to start making a difference. If it is the parents fault, they are already in habits. You NEED to start there.

I am saying it is far beyond marketing and advertising at this point. You are saying if it stops, the problem is solved. I don't agree. I think if you educate and stop it where it starts...with the parents, eventually the marketing/advertising will lose its fuel

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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I BTW have not seen 1 commercial for Mcdonalds for a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG time towards children. It has been soley directed at adults.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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When did I say marketing towards children does not work???

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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@Laura "What do you mean, what am I doing? I'm keeping MY kids healthy, teaching them about how marketing manipulates THEM, and fighting for the rights of other children whose parents are naive enough to believe that marketing doesn't affect them. That's what I'm doing"

What are you doing in your community?????? That is what I am saying...

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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You said that if we stop marketing to children NOTHING WILL CHANGE...that means marketing doesn't really do anything.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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How is it unrealistic? They've already made it illegal to market cigarettes and alcohol to children. It's ENTIRELY doable...and worth doing.

What do you mean, what am I doing? I'm keeping MY kids healthy, teaching them about how marketing manipulates THEM, and fighting for the rights of other children whose parents are naive enough to believe that marketing doesn't affect them. That's what I'm doing

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Laura, stop calling me naive. I NEVER said Marketing and advertising doesn't work. If anything you are the one being naive. I am not a little girl clueless about the world. Just becouse you have a degree in Marketing/advertising or business...whatever it is, does not mean the rest of us are fools.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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You are talking about a big picture......a big picture that no 1 individual can take on. It is to big of a task. One voice talking about it on CoM isn't cutting it.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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Ok, nope....I haven't missed any of your posts then. Your goals, while lofty and definately neccessary are not realistic. That is not going to happen. I am saying what are YOU doing? What are your REAL LIFE solutions? It has to start somewhere. And grocery stores, wal-greens, wal-mart, Target are not going to do this since they will lose money. Realistically speaking what can be done????

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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Marina, marketing works...stop being naive... they don't spend 15 BILLION dollars a year on it for no reason. They do a cost/benefit analysis to see whether the increased sales because of the toy are more than the cost of the toy...then they throw the toy in.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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You must have missed all of my posts. Ban marketing unhealthy products to children. (Part of this solution would include taxing sugar and trans-fats, making it against the rules to put a "health check" on crappy sugary cereals, no toys in children's meals, grocery stores not allowed to keep the fattening unhealthy stuff below waist level so as to make it easy for children to grab.

The most efficient way to get children to stop eating this stuff every day is to stop them from begging for it. Then the lazy parents don't give in to the begging.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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And you are dead wrong IMO. If you want to change ANYTHING you MUST find the source of poor eating habits per household...otherwise NOTHING will change. People that are used to eating poorly will continue with our without marketing/advertising due to habit and lack of education on the dangers. There is no change UNTIL you find the source.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/16/2011

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No offense Laura...maybe I missed a post of yours...I have not seen you offer ANY real life solutions.

One solution would be getting on your soap box, get some funding from people LIKE Kashi, and making a commercial about healthy eating and healthy habits. Or going to local schools and having an assembly on the dangers of fast food for the kids...or maybe even staging a protest at a local FF restaurant and handing out healthy pamphlets. What realistic solutions are you offering?

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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BUT that part of the equation is impossible to change...in order to affect change, we need to concentrate on the things that we as a society CAN do.

You're still talking about blame, while I am talking about solutions.

What crazy channels are you watching? I see a commercial for McDs, BK, Dairy Queen, and all the others AT least once per day...not that it matters because as I said earlier, the ads are only a tiny part of what I want to do.

If everybody wastes their time blaming the parents, the problem can never be fixed.

Peggy - posted on 02/16/2011

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okay so, a parent has a gun in their home BUT doesnt have it locked up and out of reach of their child.. the child gets a hold of it... do you blame the parent or the gun manufacturers?
And to fix the problem.. ANY problem, YES there has to be a starting point... but some of us feel that starting point needs to be the closest to them.. their parents and their home eating habits of what the parent provides for them and allows them to eat. You cant blame giving into your child tantrums on someone/something else and not want to own up to the 'after math" ... rather its their health or them just becoming a spoiled controlling brat at an early age!
So tell m, how many commercials for ff do you see in an average on tv a day?.. and for which ones? Like I have stated before I have our tv on from the time I wake up to the time we go to bed and I have yet to see any commercials for McD's or BK.. its Taco Bell, Long John Silvers etc and its NOT for any toy in the kid meal.. its for the adult food.

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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nope...don't care about fault...just how to stop it. I am passionate because I KNOW the closest thing to stopping it, and people resist it because they WANT to blame somebody instead of fixing the problem...it makes my head want to explode.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/15/2011

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Laura, you obviously care very passionately about this issue, which in turns makes me believe that you do care whose fault it is. Whether it is the merchandising/advertising of products or the lack of education of healthy eating habits pertaining to parents...it needs to start somewhere. Caring about how it originates will help cure it in the long run.

~Jennifer - posted on 02/15/2011

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664 replies and no one has brought up the cheap little toy in a box of Cracker Jacks?

Y'all are slackin'.
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September - posted on 02/15/2011

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Our son's never eaten at McDonalds and probably never will while he's in my care. It's not even real food. Just plain nasty imo!

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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Like I said, I don't care whose fault it is that kids are obese and sick, I just want it to stop. And the most effective way of reducing it (because it will never fully stop) is to get the kids to stop begging and crying for it.

Blame means nothing to me, I don't "blame" McDonald's or the makers of Froot Loops, I don't even really blame the parents. It just needs to stop.

I am only saying that corporations should behave ethically and fairly, how can anybody be against corporations being forced to behave ethically and fairly?

Jenny - posted on 02/15/2011

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My 8 year old isn't allowed in the house if it's nice outside. After her chores are done of course.

Peggy - posted on 02/15/2011

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My 8 yr old is BARELY allowed to go outside alone.... Unless she is in our backyard. I am a very over protective parent!!!!!! Lol. I just feel it is on a parent to install a healthy lifestyle in your child.... Everything starts at home

Peggy - posted on 02/15/2011

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But you have parents who feed their kids crap and junk food daily but yet don't worry that they are sitting in front of a tv all day long .... Yes, they are on the path of having health issues.

Brandi - posted on 02/15/2011

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Yeah, my kids have all the games an T.V. as well. Bottom line, just be a good parent, and your kids will be fine. Teach them to be healthy and make healthy decisions, that is part of our job as parents.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 02/15/2011

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That is awesome Peggy. I want to instill the same kind of activities for my kids...my son is almost 5...we do not live in an area where he can just go outside by himself yet...When we find a new home I will surely make that a top priority!

Peggy - posted on 02/15/2011

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My youngest only has PE twice a week and they don't go out for recess. I have always had my kids in activities.
My oldest did gym/cheering twice a week then when she got into the competition aspect of it she went 3 times a week for 2-2 1/2 hours each day .... Not including her "open gym" time. My youngest went to British schools while we were stationed there so she got 5 days of outside play at school and did gym 1 time a week. When we moved back to Florida she went to a gym for after school care and did 2 classes of gymnastics also. Now she does a cardio class twice a week and swims every chance she gets which is a lot since we have moved to Miami last year. When I was a child we played outside all day when we were home... You dont see that now days either. Yes I know there will be some of you who want to blame tv, game systems etc but we have a tv in every room except for the bathrooms.. Lol and we have 4 different kinds of game systems but I encourage my kids to do other things than just sit in front of a tv 24/7. We are very active on the weekends.... We enjoy being out of the house ... Matter of fact it's a 4 day weekend for us so we are going to Disney. But we will take the day and go to the Everglades, the Zoo or any where just to get us out of the house.

Brandi - posted on 02/15/2011

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My kids have recess, and P.E. Not sure why they don't have it where you live. My kids also started playing sports at a young age. My youngest is my stepson he is 3 he plays tee ball, then my 4 year old plays soccer, and my 6 year old plays football. I think if your kids stay active then for the most part they should be ok.

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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I must be lucky where I am...the kids get an hour of outside time (through recesses and lunches) as well as 2 gym classes per week, and one swimming class per week.

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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yeah...those things should happen TOO, meaning AS WELL AS all the things I just listed.

Peggy - posted on 02/15/2011

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I have repeated over and over that these parents who feed their kids ff all the time are surely only buying corn dogs, chicken nuggets, frozen pizzas, kids tv dinners, chips, french fries etc.... The eating habits start at home. I have also pointed out that PE is no longer a daily class in school nor going out for recess. When I was in school we had PE every day and we went out for recess. If children had more physical activity in their daily life that alone would make great difference in the health of children. Working for the
U S Government we HAD to take our classroom out to play twice a day. The British schools also have to take kids out to play and they got to go out after they were done eating lunch. If you consume more than you burn it will put weight on you and start you on the track of heath issues.

Brandi - posted on 02/15/2011

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Well, I can agree on that with both you ladies. I really could careless if the damn toy is taken out. My kids do get to eat there when I say it is ok. I hate McDonald's food. My kids never pitch a fit to go, but when they ask, once in a blue moon, ok. But, I don't think it is all about the toy. Maybe for some kids it is.

But really, I think they should just make the toy like $10 and have it separate or something, or increase the price of happy meals.

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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put a tax on sugar and trans-fats...that'll help a little. Get rid of the toys, that will help a little. Make it illegal to put a health check on sugary crappy cereals, that'll help a little. Demand that candy be placed above waste level in supermarkets, that'll help a little.

Isobel - posted on 02/15/2011

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I don't think it'll ever happen either...corporations have FAR too much power, I'm just arguing that it SHOULD...and it's worth fighting for

Jenny - posted on 02/15/2011

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Because marketing is brainwashing. It is the dictionary definition of it in fact.

I realise it's a long thread so you can't read every post but it's been addressed many times. This particular thread is about McDonald's so that is where we are focusing.

Ok, so it's the parents choice, that is that, do we do ANYTHING about it? Do the pro-choicers see an issue? So what if it's a parents choice, how do we fix the problem?

Brandi - posted on 02/15/2011

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But, I don't think it will ever happen. There are too many things in the world that is "unhealthy". I don't think that we would ever be able to raise the price on every little thing that is unhealthy. Would I like that to happen, sure. But, I don't think suing someone because of a toy is the right solution here.

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