The New Carry-On: Knives Will You Be Carrying One?

Kristi - posted on 03/09/2013 ( 8 moms have responded )

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The TSA recently revised it's list of items allowed in carry-on bags since 9-11-01. Causing the most debate is, of course, small knives now being allowed back on board. Other items that were added back to the list are hockey sticks, mini baseball bats (under 2'), golf clubs and ski poles, just to name a few. The knives have to be 2.36 inches or less in length and no more than 1/2 an inch wide.

The apparent reason for this turn of events is to make the screening process run more smoothly. The agency also says that this measure brings the US standards up to those of international standards allowing TSA to concentrate on more serious threats.

We haven't been allowed to carry-on these items for 11 YEARS so approving them now is going to speed up security processing how? IMO, if anything, it will slow things down. People will start carrying these "weapons" again and now, if TSA does their job right, they will have to check all the knives coming through the check points to make sure they meet the guidelines.

Many members in the airline industry are very unhappy with the new changes. They feel that, once again, everyone's safety is jepordized. According to a spokesman from TSA, it's mission is to prevent a plane from being used as a weapon. These new items do not create that kind of a risk.

Do you feel like your safety is at further risk now or do you feel safer because you might have something to defend yourself with or are you indifferent? I'm not sure I really feel any different at this point. But, I really can't see the true rationale behind allowing knives back on airplanes. And considering it makes air marshals concerned for airline personel and passenger safety, then I would say let's not do this, if it were my decision.

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~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/09/2013

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I just cannot wait for a time until we no longer have to take off our shoes. It grosses me out.

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Aleks - posted on 04/09/2013

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ahhhh... great knives, because that is something I truly need to carry on to a plane o_0

But I wonder, will nail clippers be also allowed???? LOL (among some of the more ridiculous restrictions that did come into effect for "security purposes")
Oh yeah, and what about that bottle of vodka, whiskey or speciality liquor from the country I am visiting?? NO? what's the point then....lol

Denikka - posted on 03/09/2013

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Unfortunately Kristi, there are a lot of those in the business, and unfortunately, a chunk of them are made to be that way.
The crap that my grandpa dealt with wasn't just from people getting on the flight. Much of it was from the entire internal structure of the company that he was dealing with. Over the course of a couple of year, there was an almost complete turnover of the screening crew, some who had been there for 10-20+ years. The testing perimeters that they are held to is essentially perfection. The supervisors/in airport bosses were the main ones with the God complexes, and shit tends to roll down hill.

The point you made about the bomb getting through and the child being a security risk is very apt. They are so focused on catching the small things, on noticing the details, that it's not unusual to miss the bigger things.
My grandpa has more than a few stories, especially during testing, where his co workers would catch the pocket knife, the slightly too large bottle of shampoo, etc. The generalized crap. But then they would miss the super obvious stick of dynamite, or large (12") dagger or something like that. They would just get so stressed about missing the little things that might sneak past (thus failing them and having them lose their job) that they would miss the big obvious things instead.

Kristi - posted on 03/09/2013

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Well, they just sent an under cover agent through a security line in Newark Airport in New Jersey and he had a fake bomb and made it right through the screening process.

But a 4 year old who is scared and "throws a temper tantrum" because she's crying and reaching for her mother is a high risk threat.

I'm sorry about your grandfather, Denikka but the majority of TSA agents I've dealt with are assholes with God complexes. That's not to say I haven't met some good ones who do treat people with respect and a smile and guess what, that's what they get in return.

Meme--It's good to see you! I've been wondering where you've been!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/09/2013

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Nope. I won't start carrying a pocket knife simply because it is allowed. I never have before, and I am not going to start.

Dove - posted on 03/09/2013

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We're going to be allowed to bring knives on the plane now.... but still not our own water? lol Yeah... alrighty then.

Denikka - posted on 03/09/2013

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My grandfather actually worked as airport screening security for a number of years (before AND after 9/11)

The restrictions that they put on as to what a person could and could not carry on the plane was ridiculous. Even 10+ years after 9/11, it was still a mess. The sheer number of items that that were taking off of people, the time consumed arguing with the people that these items actually needed to be removed, etc....it was crazy and super stressful.
Not to mention that there were a number of cultural and religious issues that went along with the whole process. I can't remember where exactly, but a certain middle eastern religion requires the carry of a small, ceremonial dagger. So in just that instance, you have to deal with religious problems, language barriers, and a whole slew of other issues.

And this was all in Canada, not the USA.
Taking a small amount of stress off these screeners is going to be a positive thing. The shit and abuse they take on a regular basis is just disgusting. It's good that they're going to be able to focus more on real threats and problems, instead of standing and arguing with and being insulted by a passenger over something as stupid as a small pocket knife.

Momma - posted on 03/09/2013

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I'll just drive. We have the most comfortable vehicle for traveling. LOL

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