What do you all think about this video??

Rosie - posted on 01/16/2011

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2812...

here's an interview oprah did with michael jacksons parents, where they stated "that's how black people disipline", the video is no longer available, but there is a thing that you can listen on the top of the page to a radio interview about that whole oprah interview. http://www.scpr.org/programs/madeleine-b...

here's another with statistics, black children are 30%more likely to suffer from physical abuse. http://www.myspace.com/forums/t/4810237?...



whether people want to admit it or not, the black community views it as more favorable than the white community. once again, i'm not saying every black person does it, and no white people do. i'm just saying time and time again, you'll hear about how widely acceptable it is amongst the black community. listen to chris rock, or bernie mac talk. they use it in their skits all the time.

Jenn - posted on 01/16/2011

I'd like to throw my 2 cents in on the race issue - I personally don't think that more black families use this method of discipline, but perhaps more families who live in certain areas. The black families that I know around here do NOT punish their kids like that. I think you'll find that certain areas of the US are very different in their beliefs and that perhaps there is a larger black population in those areas, which is why many people feel like this is how black parents punish their kids. I'd be willing to bet that in those same areas, the white/asian/indian etc. parents are also more likely to use this type of punishment.

Sarah - posted on 01/16/2011

I'm still astounded by how many you are kind of ok with someone hitting someone else with a BELT.

I don't care what my kids did.....nothing......NOTHING......would make me beat them.....ASSAULT them with a belt.....nothing.

I don't think it's anything to do with race either really, I'd bet my bottom dollar that there's just as many other races that would do the same, mores the pity!

Rosie - posted on 01/16/2011

jodi, and cassie, it is widely known that the black community finds this type of punishment acceptable. it's widely used within the black community. it does not mean that every black person uses this as a form of punishment, but it IS more often used in the black community.

here's an article written by a black person stating the same thing.http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...

Kate CP - posted on 01/16/2011

Per Texas law: "Abuse does not include reasonable discipline by a parent/guardian/managing or possessory conservator if child not exposed to substantial risk of harm. Family Code Sec. 261.001.[Ci.] Parent/stepparent/person standing in loco parentis to child is justified to use non-deadly force against a child under 18 when and to degree the actor reasonably believes necessary to discipline, or safeguard or promote child's welfare. Penal Sec. 9.61.[Cr.]"

More info on other states' laws and policies on spanking here: http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/i...

Shauna - posted on 01/16/2011

Race fell into the conversation b/c believe it or not diff races Do punish differently. Alot of black familys "whoop their kids"

And just b/c its farmville ... really i cant belive someone said that. All it takes is something minor to blow up into a major deal. Violence starts somewhere, and for the uncle trying to put a end to it more power too him.

I think what he was trying to prove by posting it on FB ---------is tell your little punk ass friends this is not tolerated in this family, and im going to makes sure your bitch friends know it :) .... thats how i see it.

Nikkole - posted on 01/15/2011

Im not totally sure of the WHOLE story because it wasnt on the news or anything but i mean the kid MAY have been in a real gang and his uncle was at the end of his rope and didn't know what else to do or it could have been just the Facebook thing no one knows for sure! I just hope i am never in the situation where one of my kids is in a gang or is saying they are i wouldn't know what to do honestly!

Jackie - posted on 01/15/2011

I ask about this when one of my kids told me about a friend being physically punished

Stifler's - posted on 01/15/2011

I think he handled this the wrong way. Why post yourself disciplining your child on Youtube? spankings beating medical attention aside.

Jodi - posted on 01/15/2011

" In TX (not sure of other states), a parent can punish a minor (under 18) child with physical punishment until it causes harm meaning needing medical attention."

Really? So you only have to stop once the child needs medical attention????

Jackie - posted on 01/15/2011

I was raised with multiracial siblings with white parents, belts were sometimes part of our punishment (as well as hangers, switches, rubber molding, etc) so this type of punishment is not a "race" punishment. I dont see the father being abusive because the belt buckle never touched the kid, belt folded in half, and those swings were not full swing. In TX (not sure of other states), a parent can punish a minor (under 18) child with physical punishment until it causes harm meaning needing medical attention. The ironic thing here is that the uncle is being a great parent because he is aware of what his nephew is doing on the computer, so many parents have no clue.

Jodi - posted on 01/15/2011

"I'm failing to understand how the uncle and boy's race fall into the conversation. "



Cassie, I was thinking the same thing, I just thought I must have missed something. I can't see how the race is relevant.

Melissa - posted on 01/15/2011

I agrre I would do anything to stop my son, nephew whatever from being a part of a gang....I might do the same thing in that situation!

Melissa - posted on 01/15/2011

ummm if it was a real gang the nephew was involved in and the uncle was trying to stop him from joining than I could maybe understand BUT a stupid farmville game...umm that is crazy! That was abuse....

Cassie - posted on 01/15/2011

I'm failing to understand how the uncle and boy's race fall into the conversation. I've seen several posters bring up the fact that they are black.. I fail to see why it makes any difference whether the abuse comes from a black, white, or green uncle...





*edited to add a word to make the first sentence make sense. :)

Jodi - posted on 01/15/2011

"Where I live it's illegal to spank before two and after twelve."

So does that mean it would be legal to spank your 3 year old like that? I would think it would still fall outside the realms of a spanking and more a "beating".

Jenn - posted on 01/15/2011

I don't tolerate any type of disrespect from my kids either, but you better believe I don't hit them to get them to be respectful!

Rosie - posted on 01/15/2011

i don't know what to say. i don't have much experience with the black community, but my neighbor is black and he talks about how his mom wouldn't tolerate shit like that either and he'd get smacked with stuff, and he's glad she did. i hear it all the time that some black parents won't tolerate any type of disrespect or bad actions, and will get hit with stuff.
my neighbor is a good man, he's a little shifty with his illegal coupons and stuff, but he usually buys 30 lbs of bacon with his coupons and gives it to everyone in the neighborhood, a little like robinhood, lol. so i'm ok with it. his brother has been in jail for assault for years. and his sons and daughter are both a mix of good and bad. his oldest boy has 5 kids by 4 dif women and he's not even 25 yet. his daughter is a bit of a loudmouth who chooses to be with men who hit her, and his youngest is a kind, polite, wonderfully smart teenager, who is there tolerating his dad until he can move out i believe. that type of punishment may work from keeping them out of the gangs or whatever, but it definitely causes other problems.

Jenn - posted on 01/15/2011

I don't know if I'm more shocked by the video, or by some of your responses. How can it be a good thing that a grown boy just got physically assaulted by his uncle, and was then made to show it to the world? Sad. I hope the police see this video and charge that man with assault!

Isobel - posted on 01/14/2011

Where I live it's illegal to spank before two and after twelve.

I understand why the uncle lost his mind...but he definitely crossed the line.

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

yea lol i should have worded it better but my son thought it would be funny to try and fit in the cat kennel and was screaming that he couldn't get out so i was typing in a hurry haha now THAT was funny :)

Jodi - posted on 01/14/2011

Ok, I ready your comment that it was funny and thought WTF?? But you didn't mean funny ha-ha......

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

@ Jodi i was meaning to say it was funny that he posted it i wasnt clear in my first post i was typing in a hurry sorry. But maybe the uncle had been through him saying he was in a gang before and didn't know what else to do (im just guessing) i personally wouldn't have used a belt!

And yea when guys wear there pants like that it drives me insane!

Nicole - posted on 01/14/2011

There has been talk recently comparing Chinese, and now African, parenting styles to American parenting styles. I think it is important to remember that judging one cultural style of parenting from the another's cultural stand point is flawed.

It has been shown in some studies that African American youth thrive when their parents have a high demanding, and low authonomy granting style of parenting, wheras American youth respond more negatively to this parenting style.

Jodi - posted on 01/14/2011

" i thought it was funny"

You seriously found it FUNNY? That is assault. Maybe what he did was not right, but whipping a kid with a beld like that, that's friggin' assault. In this country it is illegal in most states. To make things worse, putting it up on FB could also be considered emotional abuse, because it is a deliberate act of humiliation. Discipline should NEVER be about humiliating a child, that's just low, IMO.

I will also add, that uncle needs to pull his fucking pants up. I HATE that look, LOL.

Nicole - posted on 01/14/2011

https://www.princeton.edu/futureofchildren/publications/docs/09_02_03.pdf

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

he is 16

Amie - posted on 01/14/2011

OMG!!! That's a BELT! There is no call for that. If the kid is getting that out of line, obviously you dropped the ball long before.

I just can't believe anyone would think it's ok to be that violent towards any child, no matter their age.

Erin - posted on 01/14/2011

I think the nephew should have turned around and beat the shit out of the uncle. I don't know how old he is, but he is not a child. The uncle's intentions may have been noble, but you can not whip someone around the ass with a fucking belt to make your point.

Shauna - posted on 01/14/2011

yeah, there is some crazy shit that goes on. sounds about like how it is here. Gangs are not joke. And if someone chooses to disipline their child or nephew i guess. I really think thats a good thing.

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

yea i live near some really rough places and yea its no joke the have this new way of rapping girls now, if you see a kid crying that they are lost and they ask you to take them home when women do the gang members that live there grab the women and take them in and rape them its horrible!!

Shauna - posted on 01/14/2011

well were im from ... seriously ... this is how most black people would discipline their kids, if found out the thought of gang activity was going on and they gave a damn.

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

Yea talking or acting or actually being in a gang is not a joke you or your family could be raped,beaten,or killed so for this kid to act big and bad by saying he was gang affiliated is very stupid and dangerous!

Shauna - posted on 01/14/2011

i dont know anything about farmville cas i dont play games on FB. BUT living in a high gang populated community and it is mainly blacks. MORE POWER TO HIM. i actually think its a good thing.

Liz - posted on 01/14/2011

Teresa- I kinda have that same take on it.

I don't know. My dad kicked my brothers ass when he got a DUI and ran into another vehicle that had a couple and their 4 children in it.

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

yea i mean if it scared the kid and made him realize how stupid he was for saying he was in a gang yea then id say its ok but i think the kid needs a scared straight program if he continues his behavior

Teresa - posted on 01/14/2011

I don't know cuz I have zero experience w/ anything gang related, but if his uncle saved his and his family's life by that......

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

yea i haven't heard of anything being done about it yet my husband just showed me last night

Bonnie - posted on 01/14/2011

I'm kind of surprised that video was even put out because of the fact he is assulting his nephew with the freakin belt.

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

@Liz yea i hope i never have to go through any of my kids acting like that!

Liz - posted on 01/14/2011

I am guessing this wasn't the first incident of him acting like a little gang banger and maybe the uncle was at a loss of what else to do. I can't honestly say how I would react because I haven't experienced anything like that BUT I can definitely assure you that if my children start acting or talking like little thugs I won't just sit back and let it happen.

Julianne - posted on 01/14/2011

What a horrible nasty creature to do something like that to a person. What a thing to do...especially the public humiliation, seriously, this kid is going to be made fun of and become a social outcast. That could give him psychological issues for life. Teach him not to talk about being violent, by being violent, that doesn't even make any sense!! He needs to learn the difference, not be beat up....that man should be charged with assault and defamation of character.

Kate CP - posted on 01/14/2011

What is that kid...like 20?! He's huge! What the hell is this man doing beating kid that big with a belt. I didn't even watch the video because it looks...creepy.

Melissa - posted on 01/14/2011

I think its pretty stupid to be smacking/spanking at that age. Smacking is most affective between the ages of 2 and 6. Seems silly to me

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

IDK i guess it just depends if he grew up around it like lived in a neighbor hood that gangs were in and he saw it first hand and still did what he did then it would be wrong BUT if he didn't live where it was the norm and he thought he was just being cool then i could see how he wouldn't think much of it i guess it just depends!

Nicole - posted on 01/14/2011

I think that it would be wrong to assume that he knew what he was doing and what the consequences of his actions would be. Even if it seems obvious to us adults, it might not have been obvious to this kid whose brain is still developing, and who might very well suffer from some form of mental illness

Sarah - posted on 01/14/2011

I'm seriously appalled by that video.....that's assault!!

Being violent to stop him being (or talking about being) violent just seems like seriously warped logic to me.

If I was that kid, I would calling the police!

If he had done that to an adult, it would be assault.
I think it's disgusting!

Nikkole - posted on 01/14/2011

@Amy thats basically what the game is you get on there and farm land and grow things and stuff like that i dont play i think its boring as something else but i think he was saying he was in a certain gang and then threatening people over the internet and scarring people and acting stupid! And the uncle found out and was just angry that his nephew would tell people he was affiliated with a gang and i guess freaked out because he had said in a post that he wasn't raised like that and he knew better!

@Nicole i feel that he was a little old to not understand the reality of saying he was affiliated with a certain gang, im sure thats why his uncle was so upset because kids get shot or there family gets shot over the smallest things now a days! I dont think i would have used a belt but i would have made him apologize to everyone also! I just hope he learned his lesson in saying he is in a gang it is very serious!

Stifler's - posted on 01/14/2011

Seriously I'd whoop my kid for that too.

Nicole - posted on 01/14/2011

I think he took the wrong approach. He should not IMO have posted a video of him attacking the kid and demanding he say those things.

He should have sat him down, explained to him how serious the situation was, then demanded the kid post a note appoligizing and explaining himself on facebook.

No video. Just the truth and maybe an explanation of why he was making all of that stuff up to begin with.

Then he could monitor his account after.

I think this is too much BUT I am judging it from my own perspective. If this is what works for this kid, and it protects him from ending up in a gang, prison, etc...then its worth it