Who is teaching our children?

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011 ( 68 moms have responded )

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Since the whole 9/11 anniversary seems to be on all our minds I was curious to know how you would you feel if your child's teacher was a Musslium? Would it matter?

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Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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Yes, it would be okay for a Satanist to teach my kid math. As long as he's sticking to math, and not bringing his faith into the classroom, then why should it matter?



And how would I know anyway? Like Heather said, I'm not going to interview my kids' teachers and ask them about their faith. If they stick to the curriculum and are law-abiding citizens, then their private lives are none of my business.

Lady Heather - posted on 09/13/2011

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The weird thing to me is that I don't know that I would even know if my kids teacher was Muslim or not, unless I had a more personal relationship with them or actually saw them coming out of the mosque one day. Are we just making the assumption that every person of a certain shade is Muslim? Because frankly. I don't think I'll be spending too much time quizzing the teachers on their religious tendencies.

Esther - posted on 09/13/2011

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BTW - the vast majority of terrorist acts on American soil have been commited by white men. Just sayin'.

Tania - posted on 09/13/2011

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Do you have fears about a Japanease person teaching your kids? I mean they did bomb Pearl Harbor and the US was at war with them?
Anyway no I wouldn't have a problem.

Lady - posted on 09/13/2011

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Talk about tarring everyon with the same brush sheesh - just because of a few bad eggs you can not possibly say that every Muslim is dangerous. You have plenty faith in your god but no faith in your fellow humans just because they have a different skin colour and worship differently to you - I find that very sad.

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Rosie - posted on 09/13/2011

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yes they can, so why do you send your children to school at all? since anybody CAN be a terrorist or child molestor? you're missing a few screws lady. just because someone is a muslim doesn't make them a terrorist. especially since CHRISTIANS are terrorists more than muslims. you never answered my question. why aren't you afraid of christian teachers?

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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fyi i am the muslim you all were talking about i appericate your open mind and positive thoughts. I am grateful for my chance at the american dream....peace out!!!!!

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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@Krista E...... because teachers can be muslim child molisters the same as a child molister can be uncle joe who happens to be mexican

Ashley - posted on 09/13/2011

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haha this makes me laugh. As if this would even cross your mind. My boys go to a daycare where there's 2 muslim ladies working there. Has it ever even crossed my mind that these two ladies might be terrorists?? hahaha not even close. I walk in if their the ones there at the time i come i hand my babies over and away i go. I dont sit at work all day wondering if they might blow up the daycare. I also happen to have a very close muslim friend who my children love! I guess i should be watching out for him now as he might just plant a bomb in my backyard one night....lol....i'm not going to even share my views on 911 as this will open up a huge can of worms but all i'm going to say is dont think it was just muslims that were involved in the bombings. As long as my children are being taught what they need to be taught and at the level the should be i dont care if their teacher is purple with yellow polka dots and beleives in the devil.

Lady Heather - posted on 09/13/2011

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I didn't assume anything about anyone. I'm just merely pondering how I might even know my kid's teacher is a muslim. I wouldn't know if they were Christian or Jewish or anything else either. You're the one making the assumptions here (that your kid is more likely to be under threat with a Muslim teacher).

Having a mixed race husband does not get you a get-out-of-prejudice free card. I don't care much for the old "Well, I have lots of black/gay/insert-minority-here friends so I'm obviously not racist or prejudiced" thing. It's pretty clear you have a problem with Muslims in that you assume they are a threat until you know otherwise. If you are going to be that way, then really you should assume every teacher is a threat to your kid. Every teacher has the potential to be a nutter or a pedophile or whatever. Most of us prefer to just assume people are decent until we have evidence to the contrary.

At this point I am not entirely convinced that are not a troll. That's not meant to be a personal attack. I just have a hard time believing you actually believe all this. I don't like to argue with people who are just fooling around, so that's that for me.

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Christians can be terrorists too. Religion has nothing to do with terrorism aside from the fact terrorists use it as motivation for hate crimes. Are we going to say Christians cant teach because of this group? No, because you can't paint all people with the same brush. One group of people do not speak for all of a particular religion. Anyone has the ability to do horrible acts, same as anyone has the ability to be good.

JL - posted on 09/13/2011

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Umm...Yeah I used to teach. When I taught middle school and high school I DID not tell my students nor their parents what my religious preferences were or were not. It was none of their business just as their was none of mine.

I taught government and history courses yet I did not even get into my political leanings with my students. I was there to teach educational courses NOT indoctrinate children with anything pertaining to personal values, religion, politics or sex. The most political I got with them was emphasizing the importance of voting and understanding how our government works. The most religious I got with them was discussing the First Amendment rights and anything historical that pertained to religion but it was spoken about strictly in a factual manner.

As teachers in public schools are hands are tightly wrapped when it comes to such things and we don't mind that because that is not why we we are in education and why we choose to teach at public schools....if we break those rules we face consequences such as unpaid leave or dismissal depending on how grievous the circumstances.

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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it was a perfect comparrison to me so answer the question would you send your child outside to play knowing a molester lives down the road!

No, it's an absurd comparison. I would not trust my child around a molester. I would also not trust my child around a terrorist.

What in blue blazes does that have to do with whether or not a teacher is Muslim?

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So your prejudice ? If you can actually compare sending your child to school with a muslim teacher to allowing your children to play near child molesters.

Rosie - posted on 09/13/2011

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to make your comparison correct you would have to believe that all terrorists are muslim. which they aren't. in fact more terrorists are christians. why aren't you afraid of a christian teacher?

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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the king james bible was created out of the holy koran and king jamesdecided to leave alot of it out of his version correct?

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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it was a perfect comparrison to me so answer the question would you send your child outside to play knowing a molester lives down the road!

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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Laura, I think you're overthinking the situation a bit. At younger grades, children have no clue that their teachers even HAVE a life outside of teaching. I'm thinking back to my own teachers in elementary school -- I had no idea what faith they were. I had no idea if they had kids. I had no idea how they voted or what they believed. The only thing I knew about them on a personal level was whether or not they were married, and that was just because of whether we called them Miss or Mrs.

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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the same reason you might be cautious of the child molester living down the street. the fact your child doesn't go to their house would make it a non issue?

As I mentioned, if the teacher is a law-abiding citizen, then their personal life is irrelevant to me.

And your comparison is faulty. Being a Muslim does not automatically equal being a terrorist, any more than being a white, middle-aged man automatically equals being a child molester. Of course I would not want my kid anywhere near a child molester. However, I'm not going to automatically suspect any and all male teachers, simply because some males are pedos. That's a terrible way to live -- distrusting everybody, simply because SOME people are bad.

And I believe jesus christ is my personal savior which makes my religion different from theirs.

Yes, your religion is different. Nobody's saying it's not. We're simply saying that both Christianity and Islam originated from the same source, and technically, worship the same god.

Merry - posted on 09/13/2011

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Yeah it's more the teaching curriculum I worry about, not so much the teacher. But in theory the teacher can have a serious affect on a child's life, they see them every day and they can build a trust with each other, teachers have saved kids lives because they make surety know them on a personal level so I'm sure whatever religion a teacher is will get some sort of mention atsomepoint. And no I don't mind my kids learning about all other types of people but something so much as a teacher who gets them 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 9 some months, that's alot of opportunity for influences and kids are just soaking up everything in the early years and I'd rather they not get too confused about all thed dfferen types of beliefs while their still trying to understand life.

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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the same reason you might be cautious of the child molester living down the street. the fact your child doesn't go to their house would make it a non issue? And I believe jesus christ is my personal savior which makes my religion different from theirs.

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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Muslim people are generally good people just believe in a different God!

So then why are you "cautious" about the idea of one of them teaching your kids?

(And Kate's right -- y'all technically believe in the same god. Your interpretations of him are just different. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions.)

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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Since you have painted me as this sadistic raciest what do you care?And it's Mrs. to you I'm married!

Kate CP - posted on 09/13/2011

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*straightens her crown* That's better.

And Muslims believe in the same God as Jews and Christians, but they don't believe Christ was the messiah.

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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@ Krista... I love all people I'm a hooker so i like them purple blue brown yellow everycolor but green! lol.....seriously teachers are great weather the color and raciest I am not! Muslim people are generally good people just believe in a different God!

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I could care less what someones personal belief system is. As long as they stick to the criteria and avoid pushing their own views on my children.

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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Oh, and just something I wanted to add...America3437's distrust of Muslims isn't racist, just prejudiced.



Muslim isn't a race. It's a faith. There are plenty of Middle Easterners who are not Muslim. And there are plenty of Muslims who are not of Middle Eastern descent.



So I'm curious, Ms.3437...what if the Muslim in question was a middle-aged white woman who was born in Wisconsin? What would your feelings be about that?

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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spell check sorry your heiness(Kate) muslim i stand corrected by the almighty Kate!

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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I am married to anmixed race so I"m defientlly not raciest in any way

You know, being married to someone of another race isn't a "get-out-of-jail-free" card when it comes to accusations of being racist.

I'm white. I could be married to a black guy, but if I distrusted Chinese people and didn't like the idea of my kid having a Chinese person for a teacher? People would have every right to call me racist.

Being racist doesn't always mean that you loathe/fear/distrust ALL other races. One is enough.

Rosie - posted on 09/13/2011

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Shouldn't u be worrying what your childs teacher is teaching them instead of what religion they a are? Unless of course u think a muslim would somehow teach differently... Do u think that??

Esther - posted on 09/13/2011

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Well, I work in a place that is probably in the top 5 of potential terrorist targets. We had a foiled attempt a block from here just a year and a half ago. I just refuse to live my life in fear. The odds of me getting hurt or killed in a car accident are FAR greater than me getting blown up by some terrorist and yet that reality has never stopped me from getting in the car, or loading my kid in the car either. The immense vast majority of people are not out to kill you, and I will not waste my life worrying about the handful of individuals that are. In the end, that's exactly what they would want you to do anyway so I'm not going along with those plans. Whatever happens, I'm going to die some day regardless and I can only die once. I'll take it as it comes and I won't worry about it until it does.

Merry - posted on 09/13/2011

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Well I'm not one who thinks every Muslim is a terrorist so that worry wouldn't affect me at all. But I do have a concern about others teaching my kids. Any race and religion any sex. So that's one reason I'm homeschooling. One reason, not the whole of it.

So yeah I wouldn't be too happy with my kids being taught by someone of a different religion, but then again, even another Christian I wouldn't want teaching my kids........so not judging anyone, just I prefer to teach my own kids myself.

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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ummyes I should worry about who is teaching my kids. So if none of you care then would it be okay for someone who worships the devil be okay to teach your child.and heather my husband is not white and NO he's not musslium! It is so typical of you to assume that of me huh?

Krista - posted on 09/13/2011

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No, of course it would not matter if my child's teacher was a "Musslium"...or even a Muslim. Or a Jew. Or black. Or gay. Or Christian.



If they teach curriculum, and they are a good teacher, and they can leave their own personal agenda out of the classroom, then I don't give a sweet hoot what their faith is.



And neither should you.

Amie - posted on 09/13/2011

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"I am not saying all mussliums are that way just cautious as i m of white people! There are good and evil in every race! I'm just saying that I would have to keep that possiablity in the back of my mind! And no I have NO faith in humans!!"

Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you have no faith in ANY human - why are you singling out Muslims?

Esther brought up a good point about terrorist attacks and white men.

So are we supposed to live in constant fear and wrap our kids in bubble wrap, never letting them out of our homes or sight?

On the infinitesimally small possibility that they might come into contact with someone who is a terrorist and wants to harm them?

I don't even live near any place that *might* be considered a terrorist target. So unless a person does - then there really is nothing to worry about. I will emphasize this though - IF a person lives somewhere that *could be* a terrorist target, the chances are (once again) infinitesimally small that anything will happen in a school, with your child's teacher.

Firebird - posted on 09/13/2011

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"Yes, it would matter. I would rather their teacher be a Muslim than a Christian extremest. "

You took the words right out of my mouth Jocelyn! Mouth?... Keyboard? Oh well, you get it! =)

JL - posted on 09/13/2011

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I read my news or listen to it on the radio. I prefer not to watch the gloom and doom report.

Lady - posted on 09/13/2011

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I don't watch the news because it upsets me - I prefer to look for the good in the world and the good in people, I don't like to focus on the negatives.

Iridescent - posted on 09/13/2011

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There is a reason we don't watch the news in our house. We want to raise our kids to have hope. If they didn't have hope, who could blame them if they turned out to be suicidal little monsters who later commit an atrocious crime against others, the same as those terrorists did?

The terrorists did not act on their own, but they certainly did not act on behalf of every Muslim either. I have no doubt if I were that teacher, and a parent treated me as though I had personally approved of this crime and set it up, I couldn't go on in that profession. That's very unfortunate, because teachers ARE teachers because they love kids and teaching a lot of the time. They didn't get into the profession for the pay! Some may be burnt out by the time they have your children as students, but that's irrelevant.

Nobody here will ever be able to change your views on anything. All anybody anywhere can do for anyone is help them think about other views, and hope for the maturity to be able to think it through. Some people never achieve that level of thought. It takes maturity.

JL - posted on 09/13/2011

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*Mod warning* No personal attacks. Let's refrain from the name calling. Thank you.

Tracey - posted on 09/13/2011

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As long as the teacher follows the government approved currculum and provides a good education for my kids i couldn't care what religion they believe in.

Jocelyn - posted on 09/13/2011

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Yes, it would matter. I would rather their teacher be a Muslim than a Christian extremest.

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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Why should I have faith in anyone? I have faith in those closest to me and my god and if you watch the news you will see why!

Lady - posted on 09/13/2011

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Yes we should be causious of who is teaching out children that's why they have to go to uni, have police and background checks and must follow a curiculum (sp?) - You really need to have some faith in something other than your god 3437.

JL - posted on 09/13/2011

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I have no clue what a "musslium" is.....

I would laugh but I am afraid the OP is not a joke.

Once again my faith in humanity is smashed.

America3437 - posted on 09/13/2011

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To everyone but Kate... I am sorry if it sounded raciest as Kate has rudely pointed out. I just think it is a valid point to be cautious of who is teaching our children here I will rephrase it!

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