Why are Americans so oppossed to eating horse and dog meat?

Jennifer - posted on 10/30/2011 ( 111 moms have responded )

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I am probably really going to start a fight here, but I'd rather see some real debate on this.
I've been involved in rescue for most of my life, and it seems that things just are not getting any better. I know a few people who have stated that it is crazy that we euthanize so many pets(horses included) in this country and turn a blind eye, but get so up in arms about other cultures who routinely eat the animals we consider pets. So why do we get so distrought about it? Would it be better to let some of these animals facing a meaningless death be consumed instead? What brought this up was an incident where an Asian man(don't know country of orgin, but he was an immigrant) 'adopted' a dog that was slated for euthanization, and then promptly disapeared. Some in our shelter feel he ate the dog. Some are calling for extra measures before allowing any Asians to adopt now. Some feel that either way, the dog would be dead now, so forget it!

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...

I, personally, think it would take some severe starvation to drive me to eat a dog, but what are your thoughts?

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Jeannette - posted on 11/03/2011

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Lol! I started this conversation over a year ago. I agree, we should open up shelters as 'grocery marts' if there are people who eat dogs/cats/whatever. Who am I to tell someone else what to survive on? I know that in the country, there are people who eat alligators, squirrels, rabbits...who cares if people want to eat dogs/cats/guinea pigs? I don't.
Let people eat!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/03/2011

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I am not a pussy when it comes to bugs (hey...lol...pussy...eating cat...BAHAHAHAHA....think you can see where my mind has wondered) except spiders. But I still don't want any bugs in my mouth.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/03/2011

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When I am washing my veggies, if I see a dead spider in there...I cannot even touch it again let alone eat the washed food. I can deal with dead bugs on the lettuce, I just really scrub them. If a fly lands in my food, I do not proceed to crunch it (funny as hell Johnny) that piece of food gets thrown away.

Johnny - posted on 11/02/2011

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There is a very popular restaurant here in Vancouver that serves a cricket pizza along with some other items containing bugs. It's kind of becoming a thing here. I have no problem eating it. I'm the kind of person that will eat the fly that drowned in my soup.

Jennifer - posted on 11/02/2011

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Thanks for all the input ladies! I may try horse when my husband and I return to France, A friend was raised there and assures me it is fabulous. I've eatin all kinds of meat, even raccoon, but that was in my younger years and my grammy cooked for me, but I can still NOT see myself dog meat. If someone else does, well, if it isn't someones pet, I will be fine with it. Besides, my dad ate it once and said it is horrible! lol

Amanda - posted on 11/02/2011

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I have no issues eatting dog or horse. I remind my dog daily, that if its between her or me, I will have some nice BBQ dog. I was raised in a house where beef was actually not around a lot, we grew up on moose, and deer (no bear as we are the clan of the bear thats a big no no).

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Pig, chicken and cow.This is the only meat i would eat.Nothing would even tempt me to eat anything else like dog etc not if i was even left to starve on an island with a dog,horse, crap load of bugs and what not..I would happily die of starvation thanks.:P

Minnie - posted on 11/02/2011

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Bugs, well what we think of as bugs, I gag at the thought of eating. Except I love crustaceans, which are arthropods as well. Ironic. Cultural conditioning.

Katherine - posted on 11/02/2011

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I'd try everything once, and have tried several different proteins so far!!

We enjoy beef, chicken, turkey, pork, veal, venison, moose, bear, wild hog, goose, wild turkey along with all seafood/shell fish!!

I will not limit what we eat, we try everything once, and so will my son. I think it's encourages us to be open minded and to think of what others around the world eat.

If i was stranded on an island with NOTHING to eat i'm sure I'd eat the person next to me, I'd rather eat him then starve!!

I own cats, I'd try cat meat, just not my cats. I grew up on the farm, at 4 years old I was collecting chicken heads as my dad slaughtered them!!! I also had a pet cow who we had butchered and we ate!!! No issues with eating "pets" who were meant to be food

Angela - posted on 11/02/2011

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I ate fried crickets in Mexico... they were not so bad. I could never eat fly soup because flies are so nasty

Denikka - posted on 11/02/2011

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Nichole H:
I just Googled *fly soup* and couldn't find anything but jokes. I'm curious about this now :P maybe you could point me in the right direction??

I will say bugs are something I completely choose not to eat. Too many legs, total ick factor. I know that they're a great source of protein and all that. . .but still. Ick XD

Angela - posted on 11/02/2011

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They eat horse meat here in The Netherlands. It is all about culture. I can't eat what I find as a pet. I don't mind that the Dutch eat Horse, just do not get on me if I pass.
The truth is I probably ate horse meat and did not know it. It is common to use in some Dutch snack foods where you would not know it is horse meat. When I buy snack food I look at the ingredients and if it say (paard) that is horse and I do not buy it. It is just psychological for me. One of my favourite books as a kid was Black Beauty....
Now eating humans that is where I say no way... no , no no ! Cannibalism is strange to me with any creature even when my fish eat some of their babies.... I am like omg!
But I respect that their is not any right or wrong of what one eats as long as yes you are not eating a human, it was raised and treated well, and not an endangered species.

Jodi - posted on 11/02/2011

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My mum said guinea pig is a common food in some South American countries. But she also said there's not really enough meat on them to make it a worthwhile animal to breed for a regular meat source, LOL. She reckons they are all bones.

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Because it's not necessary? I think the palatability (is that even a word?) of meat depends on how much other meat you have? If we didn't have plenty of beef, chicken and pork in the US, I think people would be open to other choices. But we have so many other choices I think other alternatives aren't even considered. Personally, I would eat whatever I needed to eat to survive.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 11/01/2011

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I don't think eating dog would ever become a common thing in the US. After all, who wants to eat mans best friend?

Some of my in laws frequent Mexico, (they either grew up there, or are 1st generation from there) so they know all the true hot places to eat. I have been told many stories of strays disappearing. You do not ask what kind of meat is in things, you just eat it.

Brittany - posted on 11/01/2011

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Marina,

I have worked in public service and yes it is INSANE how much food gets thrown away.

Should dog ever become an option for eating here in the USA, it would be much like cow herding and slaughtering. They would be fed special diets and it would not be just some mutt of the street sort of thing.

Frog Legs, on the other hand, are fantastic!! So good, as well as alligator.

There are many establishments that can not donate left overs because, their HQ will not allow them. Although, I am not 100% on this but, I would think that if you DONATE something you are absolved of all liability. Example: If you donate a walker to The Salvation Army and a mother buys it for her baby and the baby falls down the staris then, she can not sue you for it.

There are many other options to beef though. You can replace beef with ground turkey, sausage, chicken, bear, rabbit, shark and other meats.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/31/2011

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Ahhhhh...doi....that makes sense Sara. I always wondered how someone would get filled up on them..common sense apparently evaded me on that one.

Jodi - posted on 10/31/2011

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We have an organisation called OzHarvest that does this. The receive donations of food from restaurants, hotels, retailers and the like. Those who donate food for charitable purposes are actually protected from civil liability by law here. To donate, you actually have to be a registered food business, so someone like you or I can't donate. I think it is a great idea. I couldn't even comprehend how much food is wasted.



http://www.ozharvest.org/index.asp

Caitlin - posted on 10/31/2011

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I've heard lots of restaurants around here say that the reason they dont donate that stuff is because of liablity issues.. If someone gets sick and claims its due to the donated food, they dont want to be resonsible.. VERY sad..

Krista - posted on 10/31/2011

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That's a fantastic idea, Johnny. That's something that should be implemented everywhere, really. Imagine the difference it could make!!!

Johnny - posted on 10/31/2011

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We have a program called Food Runners here. It picks up unused food (never served) from restaurants, large banquet facilities and institutions and delivers it to charity.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/31/2011

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I never understood how people could eat frog legs...they have like no meat! You would have to eat like 20!

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I agree with Marina and Krista about food being wasted. Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure I've heard of employees being fired over taking home leftover food from a restaurant instead of throwing it away. I think my aunt told me that, I'll have to ask her about it again.

As far as meat...meh. We eat mostly grass-fed cow, free range chickens, and fish. I do have some grocery store pork chops in the freezer. We're working on getting a free range hog.

If my husband ever hunts again, we'd eat deer and squirrel and rabbit. I've had buffalo and it's fabulous. We're almost out of our grass-fed cow, so I might start buying buffalo until we get another cow. I don't eat it often, but allligator and frog legs are pretty good.

Johnny - posted on 10/31/2011

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Foie gras. Now there is something I won't eat. Never mind that it impacts my colon in a nasty way (tmi, I know), it is inherently inhumane. I will eat goose, but I won't eat one that has been gagged and force fed.

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" I enjoy ostrich, lamb, bone marrow from a cow, shark, and other non-traditional meats."

Beef marrow is sooooo good. I always put a marrow bone in my soup or stew and my son and I share it. It's a huge, delicious treat. I also have eatch ostritch. Probably woudln't again simply because it didn't thrill me over beef. However others have mentioned Bison and I would walk a mile for a good bison burger over cow. mmmm

i've also had rabbit, duck, goose, fois gras, shark, etc. I'll try just about anything once - except bugs. Just can't do it.

Krista - posted on 10/31/2011

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I agree with Marina. There is a LOT of food thrown out from grocery stores, schools, hospitals, restaurants. For example, our local hospital estimates that they throw out 50% of the food served to patients. So now, they're going to implement an ordering system so that patients can order from a selection, instead of just having a predetermined meal (that they may or may not want) served to them. So why not take that money saved and buy some food for the homeless shelters? If a restaurant makes a big pot of "soup of the day" and half of it is left over at closing, why not freeze it and bring it to a soup kitchen?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/31/2011

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Sorry Brittany, gotta do it. As far as homeless go, they should not have to be eating dog off the street to survive. I use to work in grocery stores, and you would be appalled at all the food that is literally thrown out...food that is still good that could be given to homeless shelters, and even the stores would get tax credit at the end of the year. If we actually cared about how much we waste on food, we would not have to resort to eating animals that are pets.

Brittany - posted on 10/31/2011

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Jennifer,

It is something different and unusual. I have eaten a wide variety of meats in my time. I enjoy ostrich, lamb, bone marrow from a cow, shark, and other non-traditional meats.

Seeing as how the number of homeless and starving is not getting any smaller, and instead of polluting, I do not see a problem with eating Dog or Horse for that matter. I have never had either, as far as I know, but I have heard from creditable sources that dog is rather good when cooked right.

I am not good with animal anatomy but, I suppose if cook right, perhaps in a slow cooker, horse would not be that bad. Their diet is the same as cows, for the most part. I mean natural cows not, big farm meat cows who are fed corn.

People are not fond of change.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/31/2011

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I ddefinitely would never eat dog, cat, horse, veal....If I ever stopped being a vegetarian. Which I don't see ever doing. I don't like the thought, taste, feel of meat in my mouth (except my husbands ;) It doesn't matter to me (for myself) the conditions it was raised or slaughtered in. I will not eat meat. I do purchase chicken and cow for my family, and yes I buy the most humane and healthy meats for them....but I cannot ever see myself gnawing on the muscle of another animal, regardless of what it is.

Jakki - posted on 10/31/2011

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I'd try anything. I don't think it's OK to eat one kind of mammal but cruel to eat another type. If anything, I think the moral high ground is to only eat animals that had a good life and a "humane" death, rather than those who have had a miserable existence. So eating kangaroo or any other wild animal might be the right thing.

Kimberly - posted on 10/30/2011

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I personally dont ever want to eat dog or horse meat but that is my choice, I also dont eat any meat that is classed as wild game so deer, moose, kangaroo, crocodile hell I dont even eat steak!!!!! On the same note my husband thinks I'm crazy for not wanting to eat it but its my choice. I dont see anything wrong with eating these animals as long as they were properly put down and that you know that the meat you are eating is that of a dog/horse etc. I think that is also a big myth with some people that they say people will serve dog as chicken. At the end of the day if the animals were going to be put down anyway, then they might as well be a meal for someone who wants to eat that food. As long as it isnt stealing people pets to eat do what you like.

Nicole - posted on 10/30/2011

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Hunting is a very a big deal where I live, actually. You can regularly see the trucks going home with their kill in the backs of their trucks. Either they are taking it home to be butchered or taking it to the local butcher. Most take it home...

Nicole - posted on 10/30/2011

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Denikka, there are cultures that regularly eat fly soup. Could you imagine???

Sherri - posted on 10/30/2011

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Although I know there is a place for hunting and actually know people who do. We as a family will NEVER be hunting ever. It just is not who we are and we do not condone guns what so ever. So ya no thanks.

Denikka - posted on 10/30/2011

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Jennifer:
I wouldn't personally be the one hunting :P It's my hubby who's displayed interest in going with family members, and it's something I'd like to get my son into (eating wild meat) so even if I don't end up liking it or whatever, there are plenty of people, in and out of the household who would be more than happy to eat whatever it is :)

Lisa: I've never had guinea pig myself :P but had a family friend from Africa (Uganda I believe) who was about as poor as poor can get. He could have been on one of the World Vision commercials, it was that bad.
Anyways, he grew up eating things like rats and guinea pigs whenever he could find them. He always said that a lot depended on how you treated the meat.
I assume it's the same with every type of meat. How you render it and how you cook it (and I would think how hungry you are :P) all make a difference in taste.

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@Jennifer Ewww, Jen! LOL, we always called the poop 'horseballs'! What an unwanted mental image.....


LOL - we laughed at the time. I still chuckle now. We were lucky to be able to get horsemeat at all due to our poverty so I didn't question when we got to eat meat. It was a huge treat. In fact, I'm positive that I eat meat more than I should simply because of childhood deprivation and it's status as a treat.

Minnie - posted on 10/30/2011

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Guinea pigs stink to high heaven. Their insides, I mean. I can't imagine eating one. They're wicked gamey.

Johnny - posted on 10/30/2011

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For Hindu's it's not morally right to eat beef. For Muslims & Jews it's not morally right to eat pork. For me, it's not morally right to eat cat. It's really all relative and culturally based.

Katherine - posted on 10/30/2011

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I'm sorry but eww. It just doesn't sit well with me. Of course I'm a really picky eater and don't ever try new foods. It just doesn't seem morally right.







***Edit to add: Eating something that's considered a pet is not right IMO.

Nicole - posted on 10/30/2011

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I should say that I am not a vegetarian because I am totally against the eating of meat by others. I just refuse to eat it until, and unless, the meat has been raised and butchered humanely. I actually don't have any qualms about the *type* of meat one eats. I just have issues in the way that meat makes it to their tables. Since I was raised on a farm (and consumed farmed meat and game meat regularly), I think meat that is not humanely raised and killed tastes less appetizing. Not to mention, my fear of the additives...

Jennifer - posted on 10/30/2011

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Denikka, if you prefer beef over buffalo, I would recomend that you try wild game before taking up hunting! I do have a problem with the way meat animals are raised, both the cruelty issues and the toxic chemicals and antibotics given to them. I feel that hunting is less cruel to the animals we eat, and helps the enviroment, as the species that we hunt are severly overpopulated. It is a lot more work for us, though. Also, wild game has a much different taste, and can be down right icky! It takes some getting use to, even if you don't get the tough, old, trophy bucks! I love to encourage people to hunt, though. I love being out in nature, love getting to know more about the animals, and love the fact that my meat was not beat and shocked all it's life!

Denikka - posted on 10/30/2011

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I have no qualms about the *morals* of eating any kind of meat. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
The problem for me comes in on whether I have an emotional connection to that particular animal, not in the species itself. I would be willing to eat a dog off the street, but less willing to eat a dog that I had raised, trained etc.
For arguments sake, I wouldn't have a moral issue eating human meat either, although it would take a lot for me to eat someone I knew and liked (stranded, starving, etc)

Taste, on the other hand, plays a large role in the meat that I eat. I'm not a big fan of pork for the most part and generally avoid it. I'm also generally not a huge fan of turkey. I prefer beef over almost anything and I also like chicken. Buffalo is okay, although I'll take beef over buffalo any day. I would have serious considerations of starving before eating sea food. I hate the stuff as a rule, fish, shellfish, all of it.
I haven't had a chance to taste a lot of other meats, but I'm willing to try them. We have recently talked about starting to hunt for our own meat and I'm quite interested in seeing what different animals taste like.

So, horse I would have no problem with at all, I would eat dog over cat though. I'd probably eat guinea pig or rat over cat. I've heard that cat is quite stringy and oily. Not a very appetizing meat anyways.

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We ate our 'pet' pigs.... It was REALLY hard for me to handle them being killed. I wouldn't have eaten any of OUR chickens... and they weren't pets.



Some people do eat dogs here, but I can't stomach (or 'heart') that concept. Horses, cats.... no, no, no. Buffalo though.... GOOD tasting burgers. Unfortuately the buffalo burger place here isn't here anymore. :(

Jennifer - posted on 10/30/2011

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Ewww, Jen! LOL, we always called the poop 'horseballs'! What an unwanted mental image.....
and Lisa I share your distaste to eating other predators, but many in the States eat bear. I also eat pork and sea food, but many people feel that 'scavangers' have no place on the menu. I see their point, too, just not giving up my crabs legs or biscuits and gravy!
Caitlin- yeah, it apears the guy lied to get the dog. He doesn't live where he said, and may have used another persons ID. Whether he ate the dog or not is still in question, and I feel it was only discussed do to his ethnicity, and at first was a joke, but was taken serious by a few!

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