"Why breastfeeding is overrated"

Kate CP - posted on 02/03/2011 ( 181 moms have responded )

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This article is rather long so I only pasted the first couple paragraphs. Have at it, ladies!

"Joan B. Wolf is an assistant professor of women’s studies at Texas A&M University and the author of the controversial new book Is Breast Best? Taking on the Breastfeeding Experts and the New High Stakes of Motherhood.

Q: The Canadian Paediatric Society recommends that babies be exclusively breastfed for the first six months of life. In your book, you argue that human breast milk is being falsely touted as a magical elixir.
A: The discourse surrounding breastfeeding is extraordinary. We’re told it can protect against everything from ear infections and diabetes to leukemia and heart disease, and can even improve social skills.


Q: Various studies have concluded that babies fed “non-human milk” have a higher incidence of respiratory disease, including pneumonia and bronchitis, diarrhea and other digestive illnesses, ear infections (up to four times more), urinary tract infections, meningitis and sudden death syndrome. One study says that during a baby’s first three months, exclusive formula feeding increases infant mortality by 61 per cent. Can all these studies be wrong?
A: They are all misleading because they are based on associational or observational research. You look at two variables and realize there is a connection and make the case that the connection is causal. But the leap to causal inference is in most cases not justified by the evidence.

The primary problem with breastfeeding research is this: these studies compare babies who have been breastfed with babies who were formula-fed. But they can’t control for critical confounding variables—something associated with breastfeeding that is itself also associated with better health outcomes. For example, one thing we know is that women who are middle class or more highly educated are more likely to breastfeed. So more recent studies say, let’s control for class and education and see if they make a difference, and in some cases they do. But none of the studies have been able to control for the decision to breastfeed. This is to say that mothers who choose to breastfeed usually do so because they have been persuaded that it has health benefits. These are the kinds of mothers who are willing and able to go the extra mile to provide the healthiest environment for their child..."


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Minnie - posted on 02/03/2011

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I'm sure that the antibodies and white blood cells contained within human milk are placed there for sheer aesthetic factor.



Of course human milk isn't a 'magical elixir.' It contains no astronomical qualities. It is what it is and human children have evolved over a million years to be nourished on human milk. Breast is definitely -not- best. It is normal.



See- in other cultures there is no 'decision' to breastfeed. It's no more decided than to put one foot in front of the other to walk. And in many areas where sanitation isn't the greatest, those antibodies and white blood cells that coat the gut of the exclusively breast fed infant are all that stand in the way of one developing gastroenteritis and perishing.



My daughter came down with rotavirus at five months old. She had diarrhea for three weeks straight. But she never became dehydrated nor was want for adequte electrolytes.

Amanda - posted on 02/03/2011

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"Breast is definitely -not- best. It is normal."- Lisa, well put! i agree, breast is natural (and i am not against formula feeding), and natural tends to be a little better for the body then synthetic (when it comes to nutrients).
perhaps if there weren't so many extreme "lactivists" making formula feeding moms feel guilty then there would be no need to write articles like this

Stifler's - posted on 02/03/2011

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I never actually cared about the health benefits or any of that when wanting to breastfeed, as ignorant as that sounds. I didn't "research" my choice either. It was a biological urge for me to want to breastfeed my baby. I was really upset when I switched to formula. I have serious doubts that formula is better for your health no matter what this alleged "research" suggests. It's just common sense. Human milk is for human babies, cows milk is for calves, dog milk is for puppies.

Esther - posted on 02/07/2011

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I have to admit that I skimmed the last 2 pages of responses a little, but I totally agree with the basic premise of this article. I actually read an article making a similar case a few years back and I've linked to it before on DM (here is the link again for those who are interested: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arch... ).

I don't think the health benefits associated with breastmilk are anywhere near as overwhelming as the pro-breastfeeding crowd would have women believe. When I hear someone say "if only women were given accurate information ...." what I think they are saying is "if only women were given the information *I* agree with .....". I think breastfeeding is great if it works for you. If it doesn't, I think bottle feeding is equally great. I'm willing to believe there are slight health benefits to breastmilk over formula, but I don't think they in any way warrant women stressing themselves out over breastfeeding, feeling guilty when they don't or can't, or even compelling them to try it when it's really just not their thing.

And to be honest, the vehemence with which some pro-lactating women preach about it makes me want to try an all-Coca Cola diet with my next child (good thing I'm not having any more ;).

Krista - posted on 02/10/2011

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Just for the record, can I please beg everybody to note something?

It's "wean", not "ween".

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Iris - posted on 04/21/2011

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Her posts have been deleted and she has been blocked from DM, lets hope that's enough :)

Jodi - posted on 04/21/2011

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I just received it as a reply to my Admin warning too.......
I don't understand how spam bots work, but how is it they can still spam the crap out of this site?

Audrey - posted on 03/12/2011

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i havent read the entire comment thread yet but im going to in a bit. i tried to breastfeed both my kids but it didnt really work. after about a week of tears(mine and the baby's) and sore nipples that hurt to even have water from the shower run over them, i gave up and made a bottle of formula. everyone was just happier that way. i wanted to breastfeed. i intended to breastfeed. i cried when i had to quite breastfeeding my son. but with my second child, i gave up without a tear because i knew that it was going to be ok. there is nothing wrong with formula. and i kinda do think that breastfeeding in a little overrarted. all this business about it preventing ear infections and boosting imunity...it may boost imunity but i dont really think it does much more than formula. my kids were formula fed from 1 week on and have hardly ever been sick. my son is now 3 and my daughter 18 m.breastfeeding just didnt feel natural to me. there is absolutly no shame in feeding you baby formula.

Jessica - posted on 02/16/2011

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I TRIED breastfeeding all 3 of my babies but stopped after 3 weeks. I am physically unable to breastfeed..meaning i do not produce milk. Out of my 3 children one has been significantly sick..EVER..none have allergies, so does this conclude breast is best..not in my opinion.I think whatever choice fits best for a mother is the best choice..screw all the bull shit about breast being best. A woman should NEVER be doubted for her decision to either breast feed or bottle feed..kudos to both!

Rosie - posted on 02/16/2011

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theres also studies that show that hfcs is no worse for you than sugar-hence where the bias comes in. but i'm not gonna argue with you on points like that cause they're nitpicky and unnecessary since you said you don't feel formula is poison. :)

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I did not assume noone has done research, what i do not understand is, high fructose corn syrup(what makes pop bad) is in formula. If its bad in pop, why is it good in formula. So research saying pop is bad for your body is "bias" too and should not be taken into consideration? I did not say formula babies are stupid or have a lower iq, reading posts properly would tell you that.
Saying reasearch is bias is rediculious, every peice of research is, since its conducted by humans.

Isobel - posted on 02/16/2011

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nope, all she said was that scientifically, the research was missing some factors...no more, no less.

Sherri - posted on 02/16/2011

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I am sure another eliteist attitude and a woman who does not approve of mothers who stay at home or sacrifice their time and effort to breastfeed. Her claims lack a great deal of foundation.

Rosie - posted on 02/11/2011

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actually no dana i don't consider any of those things to be dangerous. most of them are vitamins, and minerals, some probiotics, whey, corn maltodextrin is in everything and is safe to eat, my children aren't lactose intolerant, DHA, and oils for fat. no, it really doesn't bother me that i fed my kids that. why would it? i'm also pretty sure that you do feed roxanne these things on a somewhat daily basis, it's in all sorts of food. maybe not the maltodextrin, but the others i don't see how you can avoid, or would want to avoid those. :)

if it did bother me, i wouldn't of done it, and they wouldn't be alive because i would've killed myself or them trying to breastfeed.

Sal - posted on 02/11/2011

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laura , sarah and theresa you have it right, yep breast id best when it works but it is the nazis who make it a war, i did breast feed my kids did not thrive on it (at 6 months i kept getting asked how prem my daughter was, she was over due) on formula they all grew perfecty, slept much better (the afore mentioned daughter would regularly be awake 18 out of 24 hours) and deveoped either at he right age group or early but i feel like i have to defend my choice (and that of others ) to switch to formula because there is nothing that the natzis see as reason, they are purly the most single minded group i have met on here, this isn;t a life and death situation here it is an alternate feeding method, if you can breast feed, look after any older children run your home the way you want to and have a healthy baby and marriage you have hit the jackpot, if any of these other factors are slipping you have tp look at the choices you are making and see what you can do to make it all ok again, and sometimes it is formula feeding, i don;t see any crime in wanting to have all my children happy and looked after at the same time (and bf really hurt this in my house hold) my marriage healthy (my self worth dropped badly while bf as the baby was so unsettled and slept so poorly i was exaushted, i was miserable and my house was a pig sty) that it did strain my marriage, and my baby was so skinny and boney that she looked sick....formula was wonderful for me.

Isobel - posted on 02/11/2011

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I think all the OP was saying was that a lot of factors are ignored when citing the benefits of breastfeeding...nobody says it's not the best choice...where I live, breastfeeding IS the norm, it's the law that nobody can ask a breastfeeding mother to leave anywhere for breastfeeding (although I think logically it should be anyplace anybody else is allowed to eat, not IN a pool etc).

I hate that people use this issue to make ANY mother breastfeeding or formula feeding feel like less of a mother for their choice.

The fact is that before formula, a lot of babies died...not only because their mothers couldn't produce milk but also because women who HATED breastfeeding had no choice and ended up sinking into depression and despair and their children ended up neglected and/or abused.

Why can't we all just see that we all do what we feel is best for our children?

Teresa - posted on 02/11/2011

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Exactly Sarah! I was so very glad to give up breastfeeding after 5 months of hell. As soon as I stopped, I lost weight, my joints stopped hurting and my son and I were free to bond without the constant struggle to get just a little more breastmilk into him. It was a relief. I have never known a smarter little boy and he had both breast and formula. I seriously think anyone arguing that breastfed babies are smarter needs their iq's checked.

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Teresea - cos the breast nazi's think they are above anyone who formula feeds for whatever reason...they think theyre right because they are doing the "natural" thing but breastfed babies aren't any better off than a formula fed child and anyone who thinks that's true needs to go into a first grade class and point out all the formula fed and all the breastfed children and i bet they can't because there is no difference. I've seen fat breastfed babies just like ive seen skinny formula fed babies i've seen sickly breast fed babies and ive seen healthy formula fed babies. it makes no difference so long as you and baby are happy that should be all that matters. and be thankful for formula because for those of us who couldn't breast feed would have our babies dying from starvation

Teresa - posted on 02/11/2011

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Breastfeeding is a wonderful thing. It's the breastfeeding nazi's that make it so hard on women who can't breastfeed or choose not to for whatever reason. Why can't they let it be the mother's choice and respect that and mind their own business? Why push their choice on someone else? I dont' get that at all.

Mrs. - posted on 02/11/2011

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Sarah, my daughter was on lactose free formula. It was only like a buck more. No big deal. Now she just drinks organic goat's milk and is fine since she turned one.

I loved the mom that said we should all just push past our "insecurities" or we've failed, if we didn't bf. Yes, let's, at any cost push down any level of discomfort so that other women don't think we've failed.
Truly, it used to be that men would push women down about having choices in motherhood and with our bodies. It seems to me that with the advent of the uber pro breast folks, men no longer have to do that, women are gladly stepping forward to push other women down with glee. Seriously, at some point, for me, it's not even about what's best or not best for the kid...it's about choice and those who blanketly say there shouldn't be one-that seems like taking a step back in our rights as women.

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Kati, just because we feed our children things with those ingredients every day (which I don't by the way...) doesn't mean they're good for them. If formula is your childs only source of nutrition for the first six months and the main nutrition til at least a year, then are you feeding them EXCESSIVE amounts of those things?

Is it your position that you know that some of those things aren't good, but because you feed your child other things with the same ingredients, it doesn't matter?

Sarah - posted on 02/11/2011

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And one last thing... Here in Iowa.... WIC is cutting back what they offer to cover for formula in hopes to raise bfing numbers.... They still feel it is best to bf here. Let me also say, if you have a medical reason, and get the proper doc notes, they will still cover most of the formula. But they also try to encourage using "breast milk banks"... So it's all how you look at it I guess.

Sarah - posted on 02/11/2011

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Kati White-
There is something in there that would have really hurt my son.....
LACTOSE. My son is actually lactose intolerant... We found this out the hard way. For the most part everything is fine in it.. but then you have to stop to think of the kids with allergies. So again for most people that would work.... but have you looked at how costly is it to get a special formula without lactose in it? It's not pretty...haha. And I'm not saying this to be mean... I'm saying it to point out allergies.

Sarah - posted on 02/11/2011

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This is another opinion from me... My mom refused to bf because of something she saw before she had kids. I turned out fine (well as fine as anyone can haha). My sister has had 5 kids and has bf 4 of them. Her first one was only for a couple of months. Her 3rd kid she did for only about 6 months. Her 4th kid she did for a little over a year. And her last one will be 2 in June and she's still going strong. I have one kid and did it for almost a year till due to sickness he stopped on his own. I felt horrible and cried like crazy knowing I was going to be giving him formula for the last 2 weeks for the first year of his life....

Now onto what made me feel better about this.... My friend had a baby a couple months after me. She tried and tired and tired to bf.... she couldn't do it. She wasn't producing, it hurt, and the baby was always hungry and started to lose weight... All she wanted was support but was scared to turn to my sister or me for the fact we were bfing..... Finally she broke down and talked to me about it. And I told her, "You are doing what is right for you and your child. There is nothing wrong with that." Ever since she actually talked to me, I can see why people may not want to bfed. She is trying to have her 2nd and she doesn't think she will even try. I told her I'd be behind her 100% and would defend her till I was blue in the face....

As for making the kid smarter, it does seem that way with my sister's kids. The ones who bfed longer seem to learn things quicker. With that said let me say, my son again was bfed for almost a year... and you know what happen?? They think my son is boarding signs of Autism... So no there is no way to say IT WILL make them smarter... Have you ever stopped to think maybe the ones that bf longer are smarter because the parents have to interact with them more? I'm not putting down formula feeding and never will. It has kept so many babies alive and so many mommies from pain. The choice is theirs. But I think honestly neither group should get bad looks or comments. Also, I think I was so hell bent of bfing because my mom was so against it and my sister loved it. Don't get me wrong I loved doing it but there is a lot of reasons people do it. I remember my mom telling me, "You are much braver then I was. I would have never done that. I'm proud of you." It really stuck with me because we aren't a really touchy feely kind of family.... Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe everyone is the same and just wants to be accepted and respected for their choice??

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Julianne- you do realise that intelligence is mostly genetic! for example i was formula fed and received an op of 1 (incredible score in fact i could go to which ever uni and study watever i like) my twin was breastfed and received the same score why? because we come from highly intelligent families. my own grandfather has that many degrees all those fancy letters (you know the MD OBGYN etc) fills a whole A4 page! my mother also has multiple nursing degrees and my father has multiple science degrees. It's a fact that intelligent people make intelligent babies and stupid people make stupid babies....it has nothing to do with what they were fed.

Julia - posted on 02/10/2011

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I find this an interesting and for some people, an emotional subject. Joan B. Wolf doesn't say breastfeeding is any better or any worse than formula.



She also says: If there is a great breastfeeding room in the Senate or on the campus where I work, I’m not opposed in principle. But I am concerned that these rooms reinforce the misperception that breastfeeding is much healthier. I also strongly believe that all kinds of changes could be made in the workplace to make life easier for people with families and I’m not convinced that scarce resources are best used on lactation rooms.



I find this last sentence offensive. Many women I know had no choice but to breastfeed in a closet or even more disgusting, a restroom stall. Women who chose to work and breastfeed at the same time should be allowed the dignity of a private room where she can pump. I don't think it should have be an choice of pump in the bathroom and work, don't bf (even though you want to bf) and work, or stay at home and bf. That of course is only my opinion.



Both breastfeeding and bottle feeding moms can have issues with the public. Some are almost condemned for not breastfeeding, and breastfeeding moms are sometimes looked down upon for breastfeeding in public.



I exclusively fed my dd breast milk for almost 6 months (during the day when I worked I pumped and she was bottle fed the breast milk). I decided to bf exclusively because I heard the studies on breastfeeding reducing the RISK of illness and because it also reduces the risk of breast cancer (which my aunt, grandmother, and a couple of great-aunts had at relatively young ages). Neither the risk reductions are guarantees but it is worth it to me. Then added one formula feeding because I thought it would make work easier. Literally, the day after I had my Mother-in-law give her a bottle during the day, the Similac recall came out. I used Similac so immediately I checked the code on the bottom of the container I used (I had gotten from the doctors office). IT WAS ONE THAT WAS RECALLED! I threw it out and had to change formulas...my daughter wasn't a fan of the brand or Enfamil. I went back and exclusively breastfeed.



I don't think people condemn women for formula feeding. Women have different reasons for ff, whether it be because they can't bf, for their own health, for the health of the child, for convenience, or for any other reason. As long as the reason for ff or bf is their own decision, there is noting wrong with it.

Rosie - posted on 02/10/2011

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i'm having a hard time understanding what is so dangerous and unhealthy about formula.this is the ingredient list of the formula that i used

WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE (FROM COW'S MILK, ENZYMATICALLY HYDROLYZED, REDUCED IN MINERALS), VEGETABLE OILS (PALM, OLEIN, SOY, COCONUT, AND HIGH-OLEIC SAFFLOWER OR HIGH-OLEIC SUNFLOWER), LACTOSE, CORN MALTODEXTRIN, AND LESS THAN 2% OF: POTASSIUM CITRATE, POTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM CHLORIDE, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, COPPER SULFATE, POTASSIUM IODIDE, MANGANESE SULFATE, SODIUM SELENATE, M. ALPINA OIL*, C. COHNII OIL**, SODIUM ASCORBATE, INOSITOL, CHOLINE BITARTRATE, ALPHA-TOCOPHERYL ACETATE, NIACINAMIDE, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, RIBOFLAVIN, VITAMIN A ACETATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, FOLIC ACID, PHYLLOQUINONE, BIOTIN, VITAMIN D3, VITAMIN B12, TAURINE, NUCLEOTIDES, (CYTIDINE 5'-MONOPHOSPHATE, DISODIUM URIDINE 5'-MONOPHOSPHATE, ADENOSINE 5'-MONOPHOSPHATE, DISODIUM GUANOSINE 5'-MONOPHOSPHATE), ASCORBYL PALMITATE, MIXED TOCOPHEROLS, I-CARNITINE, B. LACTIS CULTURES, SOY LECITHIN

i guess i just don't see the big deal. aren't all of those3 ingredients in things we feed our children everyday?

Amanda - posted on 02/10/2011

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isn't that true with anything manufactured though, Emma? of course they look for cheaper ways to manufacture formula, they aren't making formula as a service to society, it's for a profit. however, finding a cheaper way doesn't always mean that it isn't safe! no one wants to deal with a giant lawsuit so they make things safe enough or adequate. i just don't beleive that it's a conspiracy

Stifler's - posted on 02/10/2011

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i don't think that's true amanda. if anything they make more promises but figure out ways to make it for cheaper and get more profit.

Crystal - posted on 02/10/2011

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I just have these statements....or thoughts that I'm thinking...so many moms say they had inverted nipples, not enough or no milk supply, had to work....but what were women doing before formula....the vast majority...not the goat milk karo syrup babies...and not the wet nursed ones due to illness. I honestly believe the vast majority don't and can't breastfeed because of insecurity, inexperience, inconvenience , pain, sexual and body hangups...it is hard work that most mothers don't expect and because there are alternatives mothers with these issues don't push through because they have no incentive or need to...that is what my experience has been. People can get their panties all abunch but I bet if most mothers are honest with themselves they know they fall in at least one of those categories. What would we do without formula?

Amanda - posted on 02/10/2011

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Julianne- again, you assume that no one does thier research, that no one else knows what is in the formula, we are all brain washed into beleiving "the man"! you also need to check your sources and understand that you will lean towards biased research based on your own personal beliefs and feelings, this works for you but you can't expect everyone to follow suite. is formula perfect? nope it sure isn't! however, formula companies are constantly working to improve the quality of thier product. Not every formula fed baby is going to be obese just as not every breast fed baby is going to be thin. Not every breast fed baby is going to have a high IQ and not every formula fed baby is going to have a low IQ. That's basically the gist of the article, that breastmilk is a tad overrated. it's not going to cure obesity, it's not going to produce a world of geniuses, and it's not going to save the world

Amanda - posted on 02/10/2011

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"amanda i wasn;t speaking of you no, there was a very nasty theme a few days ago on this thread, that was where i was directing my thoughts "

Sal- i was referring to the "no name, no picture" mysterious poster :)

Sarah - posted on 02/10/2011

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The whole "breastfeeding gives you a higher IQ" thing doesn't sit right with me either to be honest.
My eldest daughter was never breastfed, and yet she's one of the top in her class for every subject!

Surely that has WAY more to do with her being encouraged to learn than what she was fed as a baby?!?!
I know kids that were breastfed that WAY behind some formula kids, I just don't think that it's a valid argument for breastfeeding, as there's too many variables.

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Sometimes you need to use formula, its not plausible to breast feed. So, formula feeding mothers should push for an improvement in formula, its really not a very good alternative. It has obesity causing ingredients, and its not very sterile. Women who need to formula feed should definitely not be looked down upon, sometimes its not a choice. They still shouldn't settle for sub-par food, which is exactly what formula is. You would be seriously suprised if you looked up every ingredient in formula and what it can cause and do to the body.Its pretty shocking, that's why i pushed myself so hard to breast feed. I was literally scared of what the formula might do to my daughter.

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Sometimes breastfeeding isn't even an option, which is where I become so defensive. There are women who, no matter how hard they try, never produce milk, and the only other option is to formula feed. I like this article just for the fact that it can help defend those women who are looked down upon for not breastfeeding, when in the end they had absolutely no choice in the matter.

Mrs. - posted on 02/10/2011

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Which one, the lady who wrote the book with the PhD who teaches women's studies at the university level or the poster before you who keeps using exclamation points after everything?

Boobs are the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Babies like milk! ;)

Sarah - posted on 02/09/2011

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We are human women. We have human babies. Being mammals, our human babies drink milk. That milk comes from their mothers, from us. It is natural. Women have been breastfeeding as long as there have been humans on the earth. Breast milk is specially formulated, by nature or by God (your choice), to give human babies just what they need to grow healthy and strong. Some mothers cannot breastfeed. They do not have the opportunity to feed their babies their milk and must seek other sources of nourishment for their babies. If you have the patience, milk supply, and nipples to do so; you should breastfeed!! If you can and do not have too much stress in your life (which can reduce milk flow) you should do so!! Cows milk, soy milk, rice milk....all fall short of providing what breast milk provides our babies!! I breast fed my first born until she was 2 years old (my choice, some ween earlier). With my second born, I had to go back to school right away, full-time, take my boy from class to class (which is terribly distracting)...I ended up having my husband watch him while I went to school (graduated with a BS last spring). Needless to say, stress and being away from my baby led to less milk production which led to formula feeding and weening at 9 months old. Sometimes situations are beyond your control, but you make the best of it!! Breast is best!! That is what breasts are for and why we all have nipples, because our gentiles do not form until later in the pregnancy, we are all women in the beginning of life.

Sal - posted on 02/09/2011

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amanda i wasn;t speaking of you no, there was a very nasty theme a few days ago on this thread, that was where i was directing my thoughts

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how does sucking on your mother's tit give you social skills? certainly gave me none i was the most socially backward kid of my class. i do however love it when the breast nazis get a good smack in the face

Alisson - posted on 02/09/2011

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All that matters in the end is that the baby is happy, mum is happy emotionally and physically and stuffings to all those who can't see the end result. I breast feed and formula feed my son, he's happy as a pig in sh*t, weighs 25 pounds and hit 4 months on the 5th - fits in 9 month old clothing and there's nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong with keeping your baby full and happy no matter what you use.

This article has good points and mostly bad ones but it's based on observations and personal experience of the author, nothing more. *moves on*

Kathi - posted on 02/09/2011

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I read that whiney article in Macleans, written by a woman who had an unsuccessful time with her half hearted attempts to breastfeed and then felt it necessary to attempt to discredit every nutritionist/pediatrician/scientist who had ever weighed in in favor of natural mothering. A total waste of ink!

Renee - posted on 02/09/2011

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I have breast fed both my children and they are rarely sick both were in daycare full time as I work full time-- never were fed a drop of formula.. My oldest is 8 and nursed until she was 3 and my youngest is 3 and nursed until 1 1/2. My daughter is currently in 2nd grade and is very intelligent and school comes very easy for her she excels above her peers. I believe due to the excellent nutrients breastmilk provides. I totally believe breast is best on all accounts 100% natural versus the "chemicals" made in a factory... I believe in whole and natural foods. It is so important to give your child the best which is the breast!!!

Amanda - posted on 02/09/2011

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Well, if you're referring to my comment about extreme lactivists making FF moms feel guilty, I cannot answer your questions as I am simply a BFing mom who happens to support moms who feeds their babies

Sal - posted on 02/09/2011

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april my dear have you not read some of the post by mums on here....if you have you could see why after making a hard choice (and i doubt anyone makes the decision easily) they get told they are less of a mother....they shouldn't have kids if they don;t want to bf, that if i give birth to calf i'll feed it formula.....can;t see why a bit of good old fashioned bullying might spark a bit of guilt, most mums know that accademically bf is best, but it isn;t always worth the price they have to pay for it and trade off their time and convience to ff to try and make their family work better, so april my dear get real....

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Joan Wolf is succeeding in raising controversy. I wonder how successful she is in selling her book. That's right mom, she is a publicity hound. The studies have controlled for the very factors she sites. My colleagues who do research and looked into her background cannot find that she has any training in statistics. The scientific research was rigorously reviewed by the Agency for Healthcare Quality and Research and supported most of the health benefits for mothers and babes. More research since has only helped the case. If you are/did not breastfeeding that is OK, but lets try to make it easier for those who want to make healthy choices or economical choices. Let's try to support moms. US hospitals do not so a good job of supporting breastfeeding...thats why the Feds are encouraging hospitals to monitor breastfeeding rates and exclusive breastfeeding. I work hard to promote health and do not want to market formula or Joan Wolf's book. I also have no interest in criticizing mothers. Society needs to make it easier to be a mom. Commercial interests don't usually help; they just want to make a dollar.

Isobel - posted on 02/09/2011

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being treated like shit on a daily basis wreaks havoc on a woman's self esteem, permission or no...that quote is a joke to me.

April - posted on 02/09/2011

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Eleanor Roosevelt once said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." I don't think it is right to blame "lactivists" for making FF moms feel guilty. If you feel THAT guilty, then why not push through nursing? (unless of course you are among the rare few that are physically unable to...remember this statistic is 1%) Maybe someone could explain it to me. I just don't understand the guilty feelings. If you feel that FF was right for your family, then why do you feel guilty? It's very confusing to me!

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Jacquie, It might be completely different this time around. All kids are different. Just try and don't feel too bad if you can't do it.

Krystal - posted on 02/09/2011

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Being a mom of two girls, one bf for two months and ff the rest of that year and one entirely bf. I know there is a lot of misinformation out there. I had supply issues with my first she was also severely colicky. Once I switched to formula, she was no longer colicky. She thrived. She didn't even get sick until after she hit a year. Now with my second, she had formula once and got gassy. I feed on demand as I always have. I just encourage those who want to try to nurse get support. I love bf'ing and I'll be sad when she weans. But it's not for everyone. With my first it was difficult. I had blocked milk ducts, cracked nipples and a low supply and I had to stop when I couldn't keep up with her. With my second, no problems whatsoever. I learned just because you have difficulty with one kid you might not with the other.

BTW, the people who I see mainly bf are the poor and the immigrants. All the educated woman I know don't bf. And formula is not so safe. Remember the Similac recall.



ETA: I kicked the nurses out of the room the first time I had to bf my second. I heard all this bs about nursing her for 15 mins on one boob and then switching her to the other. I nursed her till she was full on one than burped her and put her on the other. And I didn't nurse her every two hours, I nursed her whenever she was hungry.

Also, if you're not producing enough milk. Feed them as much as possible. Every hour or half hour even. It will force your supply to increase. Also drink alot of fluids.

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i have one more little thing to add, today i was having morning tea/play date with a mum i met last year, we aren't best of freinds just getting to know each other as i have moved recently, anyway she is pregant, and very happy, however her 4 yr old has recently aquired a brain injury so now needs a vast amount more time and energy put into her care, now this mum clearly has her hands full and needs love and support and her concern at the moment is if bf becomes too time consuming and too much of a drain on her personally she is worried about the negative attitudes of people about bottle feeding.....one of the other mums at the morning tea told her not to be silly that no one would judge her for choosing bottle feeding, how wrong she was, with all the negativity on her and all the remarks that i have seen saying that mums who don;t bf i can see why she is upset, and that just isn;t fair, so ladies please remember that real people do hear this type of talk and are upset by it and this poor woman doesn;t need your judgement and anger she needs help support and understanding we are after all fighting for the same cause children who are loved cared for and chersished and who are we to put another mum in this type of situation...be nice people

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