Why is there such an extreme disrespect for Pres. Obama?

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Listen, as much of a strong Democrat as I am , I never disrespected Pres. Bush. Yeah I admit to making jokes about him based on blunders that were shown in the media and disagreed with his politics. But I never disrespected the Presidency. I just don't understand all of the extreme disresept towards Obama. It is the PARENT that teaches the child to hate. I have 2nd & 3rd graders that say they hate Obama, and when I question them they said "Because my parents do". Um, that's not teaching your child to form their own opinion, and 7 year olds may not have a big enough picture to formulate a political opinion. It is a classic example of a parent pushing their own poltical agenda onto their child. Instead, a 7 year old should be taught that the President is someone to be respected even if Mommy & Daddy don't agree with him. So a question to Obama-haters: Are you really satisfied teaching your child to be hateful? Is there a reason not to teach your child about supporting & respecting the Office of the President?

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Sara - posted on 09/08/2009

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What you have happening now with how Obama is treated is a case of a very vocal minority making things crap for all the rest of us, including other conservatives. I have spoken with several conservatives that actually have good points to make and are concerned citizens, but unfortunatley the ignorant crap spouted off by some of them, as well as their "holier than thou" craptastic attitudes, really ruins it for everyone else. Good job.

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Maleasha - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Lisa:

I am going to try and cut right through all the crap and sum it up: it's a little thing called racism. Put down that which you fear, hate that which you do not understand and cloak yourself in ignorance and rhetoric.


Maybe for a select few it might have to do with racism, but for me it has nothing to do with his race and all to do with his policies. I do not fear Obama, only his policies and the people he is choosing to associate with and surround himself with. I do understand his policies and do not like them. The wonderful thing about living in the US is that I have a right to disagree with his policies. I'm not ignorant, I just chose to stand by what I believe in and not give up without a fight.

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Jeannette - posted on 09/08/2009

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Quoting Sharon:

Why is there such an extreme disrespect for Pres. Obama?

Listen, as much of a strong Democrat as I am , I never disrespected Pres. Bush. Yeah I admit to making jokes about him based on blunders that were shown in the media and disagreed with his politics. But I never disrespected the Presidency. I just don't understand all of the extreme disresept towards Obama. It is the PARENT that teaches the child to hate. I have 2nd & 3rd graders that say they hate Obama, and when I question them they said "Because my parents do". Um, that's not teaching your child to form their own opinion, and 7 year olds may not have a big enough picture to formulate a political opinion. It is a classic example of a parent pushing their own poltical agenda onto their child. Instead, a 7 year old should be taught that the President is someone to be respected even if Mommy & Daddy don't agree with him. So a question to Obama-haters: Are you really satisfied teaching your child to be hateful? Is there a reason not to teach your child about supporting & respecting the Office of the President?



Parents instill ALL of their values into their children.  Weird huh?  Take those parents who drag their kids to church for instance....



Take those parents who drag their kids to work in the communities for instance....



Take those parents who agree/disagree with abortion for instance.....



One day, said child will grow up, and form their own opinion.  In my experience, it happens waaaaayyyy before I wanted to know their opinioin! lol!

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I don't approve of people disrespecting the president. People shoud disagree with his policies in a respectful way and not encourage their children to shun his address. I think those who disrespect him are in the minority.

~Jennifer - posted on 09/08/2009

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Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:



Quoting Jenn:

wait a minute.......*lightbulb*

What EXACTLY was President Bush doing when the planes hit the Trade Centers?

OMG.....was he at a SCHOOL? With School Children????

Say it ain't so!!!






READING A STORY TO THEM!!!!!





yeah, no shit, but he was still at the school with the kids.....do you think that there wouldn't have been a' talk to the President' option after he read them a story if the planes hadn't hit ?



It's just SO much BS that no one wants to remember when they say "The President has no reason to interact with school children.  



People are SUCH hypocrites.



What if Michelle Obama decided to do a speech to school children  with the message "Say no to drugs"? 



(Oh WAIT.....Nancy Reagan already DID that, didn't she?)

Shannon Cassidy- - posted on 09/08/2009

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Quoting Jenn:

wait a minute.......*lightbulb*

What EXACTLY was President Bush doing when the planes hit the Trade Centers?

OMG.....was he at a SCHOOL? With School Children????

Say it ain't so!!!



READING A STORY TO THEM!!!!!

~Jennifer - posted on 09/07/2009

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wait a minute.......*lightbulb*



What EXACTLY was President Bush doing when the planes hit the Trade Centers?



OMG.....was he at a SCHOOL? With School Children????



Say it ain't so!!!

Konda - posted on 09/07/2009

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LOL, I know it's hard.....and I did mean 'refrain from' and not 'to'!!!!

Konda - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting dana:




It's a short speech, you should really take the time to read it.  Especially if you are going to comment on what it shouldn't say.  You may also find that it is appropriate for children under 14.





I did take the time to read it....as I said I would when I had the chance to not be disturbed by my little ones....however Dana, I appreciated if you would refain to telling me what I should and shouldn't comment on, this is a debate board and the question posted was not about the speech, but I was giving my view on why I didn't have any problems with the speech.  It is very appropriate for kids under 14, but if you read what I said, I simply said that I don't feel politics need to be brought in to it, especially not for those under 14....and I HAD STATED that I HAD NOT READ it yet.



  I am very pleased with the speech, I find it up lifting and powerful for the young men and women of our future and the wee ones too.  I think it is vey imprtant for our kids to 'know' our president.  However, I will say I do not remember the speech that Regan gave, I would have been in Jr High I suppose at the time, so what impact it will have later, I don't know.  Yet I hope his words 'reach' as many as are willing to listen....his story is very similar to many youth of  today.



As for the posted question, yes, a lot of people are still racist in America, both whites and blacks....I just don't see that ever changing. I wish with everything in me that people could look past color/religion/sexual orientation and just see that we are all people.  Now my political views may not be the same as others, but people are just people.  I grew up in a small parish, and it is mostly white and mostly Baptist and very racist.....I am white and very Catholic and like most people.

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Quoting dana:



Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:




Quoting Loureen:

Have you read the speech Shannon ?? it's available to read on : what a lovely speech thread .
You will find it has a great message that all children should listen to , and in no way political .








No I haven't read it , my children won't be there anyways they don't start til a later date.










Honestly, how can anyone comment on it if they haven't read it.    Seriously.....  It takes a few minutes.






 After you read Obama's address to the students, which MANY Presidents have done in the past, then please come back and tell me specifically what you disagree with about the speech's message of value your education.  Do you NOT want your chldren to believe in themselves?  Make schools a safe place to learn?  Strive to reach maximum potential and set educational goals?  Or, is it you just disagree with the President in general, and have no intention in allowing your children to experience a Presidential speech geared for children?  If that is the case, then that is a sad reality of poor parenting that demonstrates that it is perfectly acceptable to disrespect the Office of the President and that he is a nothing/nobody special  in our country.

Maleasha - posted on 09/07/2009

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First of, I have nothing against Obama as a person. What I don't like is his policies. I see no problem with disagreeing with his policies. Towards the end of Bush's term I didn't agree with alot of his policies. I agree that we need to teach our kids to respect the Office of the President, but before we can expect our kids to respect the Office of the President, they need to have an understanding of the Constitution and how our system works.

We don't use the work hate in our household. I do not teach my kids to hate anyone. I don't see any problem with disagreeing with something that someone is doing, but in my eyes that's not hate.

As for the President addressing the students tomorrow, I think it's a great idea. I read his speech today and think it's great. My only concern is what will the teachers be discussing after the speech is finished. That's where I'm worried that politics will be discussed, but luckily for me, my kids aren't in school yet.

Jinglebones - posted on 09/07/2009

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I am going to try and cut right through all the crap and sum it up: it's a little thing called racism. Put down that which you fear, hate that which you do not understand and cloak yourself in ignorance and rhetoric.

Dana - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:



Quoting Loureen:

Have you read the speech Shannon ?? it's available to read on : what a lovely speech thread .
You will find it has a great message that all children should listen to , and in no way political .






No I haven't read it , my children won't be there anyways they don't start til a later date.






Honestly, how can anyone comment on it if they haven't read it.    Seriously.....  It takes a few minutes.

Dana - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Konda:

I will read the speech, but I am totally FOR Obama speaking to the kids, as long as he keeps his political agenda out of it. Kids under the age of say 14 do not need to be burdened with 'adult talk' as the old folks use to tell us. Hell he is the president, I am all for him talking to the kids about staying in school and striving for the very best life has to offer. He is a black/white man, that looks black, so young black boys/men are going to relate to him and no one can honestly say that we do not need to do everything possible to reach some of our young black community, if Obama can do that then I am all for it.

I am appalled that people would keep their kids home rather than listening to his speech.....as I said I have not read the speech, I have been very busy with Labor Day and the party we gave, but I will read it and maybe even listen to it if the news shows it.



It's a short speech, you should really take the time to read it.  Especially if you are going to comment on what it shouldn't say.  You may also find that it is appropriate for children under 14.

Shannon Cassidy- - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Loureen:

Have you read the speech Shannon ?? it's available to read on : what a lovely speech thread .
You will find it has a great message that all children should listen to , and in no way political .



No I haven't read it , my children won't be there anyways they don't start til a later date.

Konda - posted on 09/07/2009

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I will read the speech, but I am totally FOR Obama speaking to the kids, as long as he keeps his political agenda out of it. Kids under the age of say 14 do not need to be burdened with 'adult talk' as the old folks use to tell us. Hell he is the president, I am all for him talking to the kids about staying in school and striving for the very best life has to offer. He is a black/white man, that looks black, so young black boys/men are going to relate to him and no one can honestly say that we do not need to do everything possible to reach some of our young black community, if Obama can do that then I am all for it.

I am appalled that people would keep their kids home rather than listening to his speech.....as I said I have not read the speech, I have been very busy with Labor Day and the party we gave, but I will read it and maybe even listen to it if the news shows it.

Dana - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:



Quoting Sharon:




Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:

Why was there for Bush ?








Sorry to say that the extreme levels of hate and pure disrespect for Obama cannot be compared to Bush.  Yes, after EIGHT years of Bush's presidency, there was very little respect left for his policies.  Waterboarding and torturing must be A-OK in your book!  Please cite me an example of when Pres. Bush wished to address the children of American and the un-supportive Democratic response.  You just won't find one, but nice attempt to make a comparison.










Why does Pres. Obama want to  adress our Children  ? His place is in the WhiteHouse  not adressing our Children.  They trashed Pres. Bush realy bad  every little thing Bush did the media trashed. I would go to the Tops Field Fair or the Beach there would be Tshirts -






                                                          " Texas called , They are missing Their Town Idiot"






                                                          " Good Bush -Bad Bush" You could only imangine that one.






                                                          " Dumb and Dumbmer" with both  Father and son






                                                          " F**k Head"






 There were alot more.    Including some with Dick Chenny , Condolsa Rice.






It was awful the way they treated Bush. I am not saying Obama doesn't have his moments but it was not nearly like Bush.






President Obama is NOT the first president to address our children.

Charlie - posted on 09/07/2009

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Have you read the speech Shannon ?? it's available to read on : what a lovely speech thread .
You will find it has a great message that all children should listen to , and in no way political .

Shannon Cassidy- - posted on 09/07/2009

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Quoting Sharon:



Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:

Why was there for Bush ?






Sorry to say that the extreme levels of hate and pure disrespect for Obama cannot be compared to Bush.  Yes, after EIGHT years of Bush's presidency, there was very little respect left for his policies.  Waterboarding and torturing must be A-OK in your book!  Please cite me an example of when Pres. Bush wished to address the children of American and the un-supportive Democratic response.  You just won't find one, but nice attempt to make a comparison.






Why does Pres. Obama want to  adress our Children  ? His place is in the WhiteHouse  not adressing our Children.  They trashed Pres. Bush realy bad  every little thing Bush did the media trashed. I would go to the Tops Field Fair or the Beach there would be Tshirts -



                                                          " Texas called , They are missing Their Town Idiot"



                                                          " Good Bush -Bad Bush" You could only imangine that one.



                                                          " Dumb and Dumbmer" with both  Father and son



                                                          " F**k Head"



 There were alot more.    Including some with Dick Chenney , Condolsa Rice.



It was awful the way they treated Bush. I am not saying Obama doesn't have his moments but it was not nearly like Bush.

If anything Obama is being Protected by the Media. When he said He Golfs like the Special Olympics that was mentioned once maybe twice if that was Bush forget it you would never have heard the end of it.



What would you do if some pervert GODFORBID Took your Child , You found the person that took your child but he is not telling you where your Child is I think no matter what it would take you would do anything including WaterBoarding and Torture to get him to tell you where your Child is. Any Parent would do anything to get their children back its the same as the CIA they will do anything to get infomation from terrorists to keep us safe. Besides that to me that is not torture what Sadam did to his people that was torture.

Konda - posted on 09/07/2009

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I have to admit that Bush was not a good speaker, lol, the funniest thing I heard him say was that when he was governor and he and Laura were heading home from one of his speeches and she started correcting him, he ran into the garage door. Bless is heart, he could have used Laura to write his speeches.

Charlie - posted on 09/07/2009

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There was a lot of heckling for Bush from Australians mainly because we found his speeches hysterical !
As for Obama they ran a poll in Australia while America was having their Elections and 95% of people polled in Australia would have voted for Obama .

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Quoting Shannon Cassidy-:

Why was there for Bush ?



Sorry to say that the extreme levels of hate and pure disrespect for Obama cannot be compared to Bush.  Yes, after EIGHT years of Bush's presidency, there was very little respect left for his policies.  Waterboarding and torturing must be A-OK in your book!  Please cite me an example of when Pres. Bush wished to address the children of American and the un-supportive Democratic response.  You just won't find one, but nice attempt to make a comparison.

Konda - posted on 09/07/2009

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I am totally against most of his politics, but I would never teach my child to hate anyone....well I did try to make him hate Barney....I don't hate the president, I do disagree with most of his politics, but that goes for the majority of liberals. I would never teach my child any negativity towards any group...be it religiion, race nor sexual choice.

Yet, if you speak poorly of his politics then you are often accused of being against him...someone said in their parents day they listened to JFK....in those days, you didn't speak ill of a president at all. My father(rest his soul) was shocked at the way people in the past 15-20 years spoke out and ridiculed the presidents, whoever it may have been at the time, he said that was just not done in his time.

I actually enjoy seeing a family in the White House again...I don't compare them to JFKs family, because they are not, they are the Obama's, they are unique in their own ways just as the each president is.

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In my parent's generation, they listened to Pres. Kennedy in school over the radio. He was a respected President, although there were those who did not like him. Schools taught kids to show the highest respect to the nation's President. It's so different now and the message I am hearing from my students is more a long the lines of "We don't need to listen to the President-He's wrong". Yes, I do agree it is irresponsible parenting.

Lindsay - posted on 09/07/2009

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I'm pretty much middle of the road when it comes to politics. There are things that I tend to agree more with the liberals and there are also things that I agree with the conservatives. This last election, I did not vote for Obama. I wasn't really thrilled with either candidate but I ended up casting my vote for McCain. That being said, I would never push hatred onto my children. I think that is irresponsible and selfish. I also think it happens on both sides. We saw it with Bush from the democrats and now we are seeing it with Obama from the republicans. I truly believe that the President should be respected regardless of your personal or political opinions about that person. Let's face it, it's a tough job. It's one that I wouldn't want for all of the money in the world. They will never have 100% support regardless of how well they do or how much they accomplish.

Sharon - posted on 09/07/2009

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I'm guessing fear.



Everyone is afraid to speak up publicly and I have to say I'm so disgusted with todays politics I refuse to watch any of the crap on tv or read much of it on line.



There is so much insane stuff being spouted.



1. that he has ties to terrorist groups and will let them in to the US to kill us all



2. that he intends to make black people the master race



3. that in his heart he is muslim and intends to do as much damage as possible to the US to allow our destruction either financially or physically.



Its all fear based and sadly racially based.

Evelyn - posted on 09/07/2009

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AWESOME question. Now, I'd love to see some answers from the right...if they even have one.

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