Why the hate for Kate?

Dana - posted on 04/28/2010

Oh, I didn't see any of that. lol

?? - posted on 04/28/2010

In that link you posted;

Jon, who is pissed that List spoke with the media, insists he wants to pay child support, adding, "I just can't afford the $22,000 a month right now. That is why I'm trying to find a job."

As for what type of job ... Jon says, "I would like a job in some aspect of TV, probably as a host."

Well, if Kate can dance ...

Dana - posted on 04/28/2010

What did I miss? A host for what?

?? - posted on 04/28/2010

LMAO @ Jon as a host...............



You need a PERSONALITY to be a HOST.



Sheesh buddy, way to be realistic....



Although, dreams ARE free...

Chatty - posted on 04/28/2010

I think Pamela Anderson is a lost cause.....yuck!

Dana - posted on 04/28/2010

What are you guys talking about?? Everyone boy wants their friends to see their mom in a G-string with their boobs hanging out!

Krista - posted on 04/28/2010

I didn't say anything about her being a GOOD mother. She just isn't getting slack for being on the show the way Kate is.

Chatty - posted on 04/28/2010

Pamela Anderson is a good mother? ;)

Dana - posted on 04/28/2010

Aw,come on, you know he looks handsome as hell and rocks it! roflmao!

Krista - posted on 04/28/2010

That's just ridiculous. It's like he's trying to pull off the modern day Donald Trump.

Dana - posted on 04/28/2010

I had to go look and he IS trying to pull off a faux hawk. lmao. Here's a link. hehe. Now don't laugh too hard. ;)



http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/22/jon-gossel...

Krista - posted on 04/28/2010

lol............Jon doesn't have a faux hawk. He doesn't have enough hair for it.

And honestly, if we're going to make Kate out to be a bad mother, then Pam Anderson is a bad mother, too. After all, she left HER kids to be on the show, too.

Celia - posted on 04/27/2010

I feel bad for Kate!!
If I had 8 kids I'd be crying in a corner somewhere, she ran a tight ship I admit, but wouldent you have to!! Yes they had a TV crew but you would have to make alot of money to support that many kids and it worked. She always made time for each kid and even took pictures of their first poop on the toilet!! (I will so be doing that with my son so he feels proud and keeps doing it!)
So now her Ex cut off the money they were making not I believe for the kids sake but for his own wimpering pride after being found stooping Kate's tummy tuck doctors daughter (sounds like a bad soap, and yes I'd have a tummy tuck too after 8 kids!). So now she sells books and goes on a dancing show to raise money for the kids while her Ex wears Ed Hardy shirts like a douche and smokes with a fo-hawk and generally makes an ass of himself and you can read that all over his daughters faces (the older ones).
I have no idea why people are attacking her, they dont have the 8 kids and a crappy Ex.

?? - posted on 04/26/2010

And the part of that, that people disagree with, is the WAY they are 'gettin the job done' lol for whatever reason... but just as there are some people who disagree with stay at home moms, or people who disagree with working moms, there will always be someone who will disagree with how they go about getting it done.

Krista - posted on 04/26/2010

I think we all agree on that subject, Christina.

C. - posted on 04/26/2010

Right.. What's done is done. That can also mean that Kate and Jon can quit complaining like little children and just get the job done.

Dana - posted on 04/26/2010

Christina, they did it because they couldn't get pregnant otherwise. They knew there was a possibility, they knew it was most likely they'd have twins but not sextuplets. Either way, who cares, what's done is done.

C. - posted on 04/26/2010

Jo, my point was.. If they only wanted ONE more child (which is what they kept telling everyone on the show), then why even do IVF or IUI? The chance of having ANY set of multiples continues to rise, whereas the chance of having a single birth with IVF or IUI continue to fall.

I agree with Laura.. They are behaving like spoiled rotten children.

Isobel - posted on 04/25/2010

well...I for one, did some pretty ugly, stupid things at the end of my marriage (and I thank god that they remain private). Everybody makes mistakes...and it should be said that Octomom also did the exact same thing as she had previously (just with seriously different results).

They are both behaving like spoiled rotten children...just in different ways

?? - posted on 04/25/2010

I doubt anyone really goes into IVF or IUI without doing more than enough research on it to make the decision to fork out the $$ and do what they have to do.. having multiples is one thing, twins or triplets but NO ONE can predict having sextuplets, no matter how much research they do.

C. - posted on 04/25/2010

Oh, excuse me.. Either way, the stats are just about the same, are they not? IUI and IVF often times result in a pregnancy of multiple babies instead of single babies. They still should have done more research on it.. And with their first pregnancy being twins.. I can't say that I feel sorry for them.

Lindsay - posted on 04/25/2010

Octomom used IVF. Jon and Kate used IUI.

C. - posted on 04/25/2010

One thing.. She didn't intentionally have eight kids, unlike Octomom. She had IVF, which is what she had with her first babies and ended up with twins.BUT, I still think they should have planned better financially. And they should have looked at the statistics. More and more IVF patients are ending up pregnant with multiples instead of one single baby, so the chances of getting just a single baby with IVF are very slim anymore.



Second, if you've seen the show Jon & Kate + 8, you will see that Kate is just as manipulative and controlling as she makes Jon out to be (he may very well be that way, but she is too). I am tired of seeing her play the victim with everyone.



Jon is a douche and Kate is a control-freak. Heck, even on Dancing with the Stars, she was telling the PROFESSIONAL DANCER how to dance! Telling him that the steps he taught her weren't right! HE'S A PROFESSIONAL!!! And she has not one dancing bone in her body, so I think I would definitely trust Tony (her ex-dance partner) over her.



Third, she doesn't have the children all the time. Jon helps raise them too, from what I've heard.



And finally, I just think it's sick to exploit your children on TV. Yes they are making money to help support the kids, but they don't have to be on TV. There are other ways to make enough money that are still legal! The kids don't have a normal life now b/c they've grown up with production crews in their home. I just think it's disgusting.

Lindsay - posted on 04/25/2010

It was just under a year, because it actually happened several months before the episode aired. They went on that vacation on their 9th anniversary and filed for divorce shortly before their 10th anniversary.

Krista - posted on 04/25/2010

It was much less than a year, though, wasn't it? It felt like about 6 months in the interim.

Dana - posted on 04/25/2010

I think that was their way of trying to save their marriage, not to mention a lot can go on in a year.

Krista - posted on 04/25/2010

I'm not saying that she didn't have REASON for divorce. I'm just saying that neither of them wanted help with their marriage.

And what blows me away is how they can go from the end of one season where they're renewing their vows to the next season where they hate one another.

Kinda makes you wonder what they DID do for the sake of the show.

Dana - posted on 04/25/2010

Not to mention he was having a full blown affair. lol

Lindsay - posted on 04/24/2010

Kate was the one that filed for divorce but I think the last straw was him at the fence socializing with the paps and didn't notice when one of the kids got injured and ended up needing to be taken to the ER. He was also smoking pot at the house when it was his time with the kids. I don't think she had much choice at that point but to go forward with it.

Chatty - posted on 04/24/2010

I stand corrected! ;)

Krista - posted on 04/24/2010

Neither of them insisted on marriage counseling. And it was actually Kate that finally called it quits, not Jon.

Chatty - posted on 04/24/2010

I totally agree with you Krista except on the point you made about both of them refusing to get counseling within their marriage......to my understanding Kate did want to do whatever she could but Jon left and was ultimately the one who insisted on divorce!? Correct me if I'm wrong?

Krista - posted on 04/24/2010

I have to admit, I was a HUGE fan of this show when it first began. To me, it seemed like your normal, everyday family. Sure, they had their squabbles, but in the end, they all loved one another. I enjoyed the way they were raising their children to have great values.

And then, suddenly, things changed. No longer did they care so much about the children, but about what THEY (the parents wanted). It was a constant fight between them and you could see it in the faces of the children.

I don't feel sorry for Jon. He knew the type of woman she was when he married her. If he didn't like the way he was being talked to or treated, he could have told her that and they could have worked through it.

Alternately, I don't feel sorry for Kate, either. The both of them refused to get counseling for their marriage (as was stated by they themselves) and it seems as though they put absolutely no effort into trying to resolve their issues.

I think it's bull that Jon claims that, because he married and had babies so young, that it's okay for him to go buck wild. Uh, you chose this dude. You knew very well what you were getting into in that fertility office. Suck it up and take responsibility.

That goes the same for Kate. This is what you dealt YOURSELF in life. Stop playing the martyr and live your life.

And most of all.........start thinking of your CHILDREN before everything else.

Isobel - posted on 04/23/2010

which happened after they took his name off it...I never said he wasn't acting like a big whiny baby...I just don't think he's as bad as they're making him out to be

Dana - posted on 04/23/2010

Laura the show is off the air because Jon was threatening lawsuits over it. All of a sudden he didn't like his kids being on TV, when in reality, he didn't like that he wasn't get paid anymore.

Isobel - posted on 04/23/2010

I actually feel sorry for Jon...I was addicted to the show and watched every episode. I don't hate Kate, but she was REALLY mean to him ALL the time.

People do stupid things after a divorce (I can vouch for that myself) To have to go through a divorce while living in a fishbowl would be hell on earth.

I don't think he's really a douchebag, I just think he was sooooo henpecked for sooooo long that now he's acting like a giant jackass...he'll calm down and I think he looks like a good dad, he has fun with them and provides a necessary contrast to Kates compulsive control.

As for Kate, I feel bad for her too...yes she's a bitch but I think raising that many babies all at once would turn you into one. and I don't begrudge anybody with that many children taking their family on the air if that's what they've got to do I think it's totally unfair that some judge has decided that Octomom is not allowed to "make money off her children".

Their show would still be on the air now, had the producers not taken Jon's name off of it (and I for one would still be watching it)

Krista - posted on 04/23/2010

Good point, Dana. I only ever watched the show a couple of times, but in the show, he was always depicted as the henpecked husband, with her being the overbearing bitch.

Then again, she DID keep re-signing her contract, so it couldn't have bothered her that much.

And I agree with Jenn -- I'm so sick of these people who are famous for no other reason than that they're stupid and/or controversial.

~Jennifer - posted on 04/23/2010

I just wish they'd go away.

I'm sick of all of these 'regular famous' people.

(this includes the Gosselins, the Jersey Shore people, the high profile mistresses, the 16 and knocked up brats , etc. etc, etc.)

Dana - posted on 04/23/2010

In the beginning he had been painted as the "poor, guy...had to deal with that bitch". It's only been recent, in the US, that he's seen as a douche bag.

Krista - posted on 04/23/2010

I think Jon has definitely been portrayed as a major douchebag, frankly. I can't think of any media outlet that has painted him in a sympathetic light.

As far as Kate goes, I think some of the vitriol is probably because her family was just torn apart, and it's got to be rough on those kids. And they supposedly got $65K an episode when they had their show -- so people are probably thinking that she doesn't need the money right now, so why not take some time off to be with the kids and help them through all the crap they've had to deal with for the last while? That's my theory, anyway. Personally, I couldn't care less...I'm just sick of hearing about her.

?? - posted on 04/22/2010

I honestly don't think I've seen anything, anywhere that portrayed Jon as a good guy.... unless it was an interview with him and HE was the one implying that he is the good guy... I definitely don't think this is a case of "she is a slut" and "he is a king" mentality. I think people dig on Kate, anyone, takes digs at Kate because she's a public face. She put herself out there, so she's open to attacks from all sorts of people and places and organizations and every rat, cat and dog that can attack her... she also has the support of many people too. Just like any other celebrity. Rosie, Ellen, Michelle Obama, Pamela Anderson... Roseanne... Britney... etc etc etc

But I definitely don't think Jon is being portrayed as any kind of good guy while Kate is being attacked.... they're both getting negative thrown at them. Just depends on the individual idea / agenda of what is good vs what is bad as to who they're giving more 'credit' too...

(by "they" I mean the media or media personalities or individual people like you and me)

Alison - posted on 04/22/2010

I agree with everything Dana said in her OP. I can't understand all the hate for Kate either. As far as I'm aware it was hubby who started an extra marital affair before they split, but the media has been much more interested in her personal life. It saddens me that the media is so quick to attack women while men always end up looking like the good guys. She is doing what she has to do to provide for her children and who can blame her for that?

Sharon - posted on 04/22/2010

I haven't seen the show and after the reports of her bad dancing I didn't want to see it, but i would have a hard time keeping a happy face if I knew I was a perfectly shitty dancer.

I think she got pushed into this and she knew she was going to look the fool.

Kimberly - posted on 04/22/2010

I always liked Kate, and never looked down on her for being on various shows and things...but for some reason, she totally turned me off after seeing her on Dancing! Don't know why--maybe it was her general bad attitude or her sour faces every five seconds?? She acted like it was such a chore to be on the show--she could have said no! I like the woman and would like to support her, but she needs to lose the attitude.

Chatty - posted on 04/22/2010

LMFAO! It's kinda too bad she's gone.

Dana - posted on 04/22/2010

It was quite sad, she looked drugged as she was being drug around the room.

Charlie - posted on 04/22/2010

It made news in Australia because it was so shit !

Chatty - posted on 04/22/2010

LMFAO! That's awesome! Hahaha....I can't stop laughing! She looked like she had pole up her ass, even more than usual!

?? - posted on 04/22/2010

she looked like she needed a laxative..

Chatty - posted on 04/22/2010

Did anyone see her dance? LOL! It's was painful to watch........ I was embarrassed for her! I have to admire her guts and determination though.......I couldn't have done any better so kudos for that!