Formula Bottles at 14 months??

Noelle - posted on 02/10/2010 ( 17 moms have responded )

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So, my 14 month old is supposed to be weaned off his bottle/formula now, right?! Only he can't have cow's milk, and I don't feel like soy milk has enough vitamins/fat for him and I can't just add more cheeses, etc...so, I figure we'll wait 'till closer to 18 months. Anyone else dealing with this issue??

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Belinda - posted on 02/17/2010

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my 14months old is still on formula and i am not going to take him off it untill HE is ready i done see hoow it hurts them to be on it only he wont take it from a sippy cup but he takes everything else from it. Im a strong beliver it ur child willd o it when they r ready to do it.

Amanda - posted on 02/16/2010

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My daughter went from formula to soy milk, it really doesnt have that much less fat, her doctor recommended it. But if you are dead set against it, I dont think it would hurt him to have formula longer.

Jeanne - posted on 02/16/2010

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I would also suggest trying an infant formula such as Enfagrow. It's recommended for toddlers from 12 months up to 36 months. It also has more Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Iron, Omega-3 DHA than milk. If I could afford it, I'd switch my twins to it too.

Emeline - posted on 02/15/2010

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I'm a scientist doing research on estrogen -- and scared or not, Katie's facts about soy are correct. The best advice, for anything, is to give/take everything in MODERATION. Too much of anything is not good.

Regarding the topic of formula and the bottle: we're slowly weaning him off of a bottle and formula. He now only gets 3 bottles a day with mostly cow's milk and a third of the bottle filled with formula. When he's "ready", he'll transition himself to a sippy cup, which we are trying every day but without pressure. Like Misty said, every baby is different so go with what your baby does/needs/wants and what you know. You know your baby best. The rules/guidelines/what doctors say are simply recommendations and suggestions. Slow down everyone. Enjoy your baby(ies). They grow fast enough ... isn't it hard trying to MAKE them grow up faster?

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I know how it can be. You can post something with no ill intentions whatsoever and get your head ripped off!
Coconut butter is actually a really great idea. I have some pure coconut oil that I use in cooking sometimes. I believe it's one of the healthier oils out there. And actually, a spoonful a day can help with weight management as well as boost your immunity. Good stuff it is:)

Ruth - posted on 02/15/2010

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My little one came up with a rash just after I started cows milk, the hospital said to give her goats milk. She didnt notice any difference.
She wasnt allergic so went back to cow's milk.

Trina - posted on 02/14/2010

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Wow. I have to say that I was almost leery of reading your response. I was afraid that you would take what I said as a personal attack, as often happens when you can't hear tone of voice or inflections, when it was anything BUT an attack. So thanks for not lashing out at me! LOL I just wanted to, as you did, inform that things aren't always as easy as eliminating dairy OR soy products.

The thing is that it DOES worry me a great deal the amount of soy products he gets - formula/milk, cheese, yogurt. And I make most of his food from scratch using soy milk & soy butter. Someone told me of substituting coconut butter and rice milk instead, so I'm going to try that as soon as I find some! I'm always looking for alternatives to the soy, and I never thought about how hard it would be just to feed my child. I couldn't even breast feed him. Even eliminating all dairy from my own diet wasn't enough.

I haven't tried a naturopath yet, as its not covered by my insurance and I can't afford their rates right now. But I have definitely thought of it. Luckily though, our ped and nutritionist both seem very knowledgeable - regular dr., not so much.

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Trina, I have heard of moms formula feeding their babies with cows milk based formula but having issues when introducing actual cows milk. Maybe it's something to do with the concentration. I don't actually know. So I figured it was possible that Noelle's little one was having regular cows milk formula.

I was consuming a lot of yogurt when my son was about 2 months (and breastfeeding) and I my son was sensitive to the dairy in my diet. I went off of dairy for about 2 or 3 months but was eventually able to start eating it again without it causing any problems for my son. Then a couple months after introducing solids to him, we gave him his first taste of yogurt, and again, he was sensitive. We switched to goat yogurt and he was fine. Now, at 14 months he can have any dairy without issues. So that's my personal experience with my baby and dairy products.

I'm sorry that info that I posted was upsetting to you:( That was not my intention. I just wanted to put it out there for Noelle to encourage her to explore all other avenues before resorting to soy. But if that's what it comes down to then what are you going to do? Sometimes the only option isn't the greatest. But you do what you gotta do, right?

One thing I would like to suggest to you (if you haven't already done it) is go to a naturopath. I find them a lot more helpful than regular doctors/pediatricians when it comes to these sort of issues.

Trina - posted on 02/14/2010

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My son is allergic to milk protein (entirely different from a lactose or milk sensitivity - extremely rare) and can't have any dairy products at all, regardless of whether its cow's milk, goat's milk, or human. He can, and has almost died from it. Even the amount of milk in a piece of bread is enough to make him sick. I've had several discussions with a nutritionist about eliminating formula and her simple advice was there ISN'T enough fat and vitamins in soy milk for them at this age. The only option is to add fat and vitamins. Ends up being more pain than benefit, so I'm keeping him on his soy formula until he's about 2 when he (hopefully) will be getting most of his vitamins and fat from food.

To transition from the bottle, Katie's suggestion for the reusable juice boxes works well. My daughter loved them, and my son is growing accustomed to them as he won't drink "milk" from a sippy cup quite yet.

However, and I mean no disrespect, nor do I wish to start a battle of words, but I do have "thank" you Katie, for the unhelpfulness of the rest of your post that managed only to reinforce the fears I already had about the amount of soy products my son already receives as there are NO ALTERNATIVES for him. Your well-intentioned information on soy products was contradictory in nature as you suggested not to give soy milk or soy formula, but because the OP stated that her child CAN'T have cow's milk, so thereby one should assume that the child is receiving SOY formula, as often if a child can't have cow's milk, they can't have a cow's milk-based formula. Yes, there are formula's that are neither soy nor cow's milk based, but they usually require a prescription and most doctor's are unlikely to prescribe it if the child does well on soy formula.

So while I do appreciate that you provided this information in a well-intended manner to educate those that may CHOOSE to use soy products as a healthier alternative, please realize that there are those of us that HAVE no alternative. Please keep in mind the full aspect of what is being questioned prior to providing clinical information formed from personal beliefs, and also realize that EVERYTHING we consume has negative consequences, regardless of what it is.

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I read somewhere not too long ago, a recommendation written by a pediatric dentist, and it said that sometime between 12 and 18 months was the best time to get rid of the bottle. After that it will become a lot more difficult and it's also not good for their teeth. Maybe to help make that transition to a sippy cup and then a regular cup you could try Rubbermaid reusable juice boxes (http://www.rubbermaid.com/Category/Pages...) I have heard multiple moms have troubles getting their little ones to use sippy cups but the Rubbermaid juice boxes were a big hit.

Also, have you tried goats milk? Some people who have issues with cows milk are OK to drink goats milk. It's easier to digest. If you've tried it, or you do try it in the future and it's a no-go, then I would encourage going with the toddler formula because not only does soy milk not really have enough of what your little guy needs, but it's also not something I think anyone should be drinking on a regular basis. Here's some info on soy in case you were still considering it...



Dangers of soy:



Phytic acid: Soy beans have the highest phytic acid (then chickpeas) of all plant foods. Phytic acid is a phosphorus compound, present in all whole plant seeds, grains, legumes, nuts and seeds. It protects the plant and binds to essential minerals (calcium, iron & zinc), preventing absorption of these minerals. If the soy is "predigested" by bacteria and fermented, the problem is virtually eliminated. Eat soy with mineral rich food such as sea vegetables, which help reduce the effects of the anti-nutrients in soy.



Allergies: Many people are allergic to soy. Soy allergens may affect up to 20 percent of our population. It is 1 of the 8 foods that cause 90% of all allergic reactions.



Pesticides/GMO: Soy is commonly treated with pesticides (Round Up) and if it's not organic — it's most likely genetically modified. Make sure it's organic!



Potential dangers of soy baby formulas: There's new research suggesting high concentrations of aluminum and manganese found in soybean-based baby formulas may lead to altered behaviors in adolescents among other things. Some soymilk is made with soy protein powder or soymilk powder — avoid these. Sunrise is one reputable company I know of who soaks the whole soybeans before making their Organic Soymilk. The soy is in its whole form, organic and prepared correctly. Avoid Soy in the form of Soy Protein Isolate (or TSP), which is used in many food products such as soy burgers, protein bars, shakes, soy cheese etc. My concern is in the destructive methods in which they isolate soy proteins. Soy Protein Isolate is highly processed and is often:



1. acid washed in aluminum tanks

2. soaked in a chemical solution to extract proteins — produces carcinogens

3. and spray dried using high temperatures which may form nitrates.



Estrogen: Soy contains phytoestrogens, similar to human estrogen. Women with estrogen-positive (ER+) breast tumors and breast cancer should avoid eating soy because these tumors are stimulated by estrogen.

Brandi - posted on 02/14/2010

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I have no intention of ever feeding my child cows milk..it's probably the most disgusting thing we consume. Anyways, my personal beliefs aside. My son's 14 months, he's on Emfamil's Enfagrow toddler formula. We will be doing that until 20 months or so..and then after that Soy milk is totally acceptable. Soy milk needs to be full fat & calcium fortified. Children under the age of 5 need 500mg of calcium a day, 1 8oz glass of Silk Soy Milk Vanilla has close to 30% of a days serving. Which is actually higher than cows milk itself. Plus, by the time my kid will be off formula, he should be able to eat those gummy vitamins which will provide him with pretty close to everything he needs.

Jennifer - posted on 02/14/2010

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My daughter stopped breastfeeding at 1 year old. I give her a bottle in the morning and evening of powdered goat's milk. I've heard goat's milk is the most similar to breastmilk. She loves it and it's easy.

Misty - posted on 02/13/2010

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I say whatever works, as long as baby is happy. Do what you feel is right for your baby and dont listen to "they". Well done super mummy x

DeDra - posted on 02/12/2010

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I'm so happy I saw this! I thought I was alone! Everytime I tried to wean him off the formula, something was wrong. He was sick for 3 weeks, then he's teething, it was always something! So I started buying the toddler formula because its a little bit cheaper than the infant formula. He likes it, so I'll continue to buy it. He also can't tolerate cows milk, so I'm using this until I figure out something else. And you're right, soy milk doesnt have enough vitamins/nutrients in it for toddlers.

Catherine - posted on 02/12/2010

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have you tried the toddler formula they offer.....it still gives the vitamins like baby formula and has the same stuff as cows milk too.... my son who is almost 3 no could not take cows milk till he turned 2 and the toddler formula they can be on for up to 24 months if i am not mistaken......

Natasha - posted on 02/11/2010

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My son can have cow's milk so haven't had the same problem. I was concerned about the extra vitamins in the formula that my son was no longer having, so I bought some liquid vitamins for kids that I stir into his night time meal. It has a slight citrus flavour, which is masked by the food. It has extra iron in it, which is the major thing they are missing from switching from formula to milk.

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