Changing baby sleep cycle, wont sleep till 2am

Leigh - posted on 04/07/2010 ( 11 moms have responded )

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My 7 month old daughter wont sleep untill 2am.

She has her morning feed at 8am and goes straight back to sleep and sleeps till 11am, back down for nap at 2pm for 2hrs then she will have another nap at 7 or 8 pm for an hour (ive tried to make this one earlier and later but she still only sleeps for a hour) and wont go back down untill 2am.

Ive tried putting her back in her cot and she sceams the house down and when i get her back up she is happy and playful (so i asume shes not tired) then around midnight she grizzles and i cant do anything with her but hold her.

Some nights she will go to sleep with me holding her but when i put her down in her cot she screams and this will happen about 4 times with her falling asleep and me putting her down.

Is there something about night time that would be different for a baby as she will sleep fine during the day?

I also had her baby sat the other night to see if it was me (i breast feed and thought she might smell me or something..lol) and no it happend to my mother in law to.

Should i keep her awake after her 8am feed so she gets tired enough to sleep at night, or do you know how i can change her sleep cycle?

I have taken her to bed with me the last few nights and she will go to sleep with me at about 12:30- 1am, but i dont want to make a habit of it, what else can i do?

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Stacy - posted on 04/10/2010

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It sounds like she's got a good schedule, you'd just like it to be about 5 hours earlier!!!

I've used the Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child book for both of mine (because my daughter was exactly the same as yours!!) and it really helped. In a nutshell - baby's should wake between 6-8am (if they are not awake - wake them.) Play HARD until 9ish - then put them down for the AM nap (1-2hrs) again PLAY HARD until 1ish - then put them down for the afternoon nap (1-2 hrs) - maybe a cat nap around 4pm - but shoot for bedtime around 7-8! He says the same as the other moms - get a routine and stick with it. For my daughter it was play, warm bath, feed in a dark room, rock and then sleep. The first 3 days were HORRIBLE, until she got her sleep/wake cycles worked out.

Good luck!

Olivia - posted on 04/08/2010

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Wow, that is very intense! You must be very sleep deprived. My son really enjoys having a head cradle. Those things that cradle the babies head in a stroller or car seat. I also roll up two big receiving blankets on each side of him. I think it makes him feel more secure. Since, your child likes to go to bed at 2 am it might take some time to get him into a different schedule. It might help to cut out his 7 or 8 pm nap and instead, putting him to bed at 10pm. Slowly, putting him to bed earlier 9:30 then 9 pm. good luck! I hope you get some rest. Also, a routine might help like bath time or something similar. Anything that your child can see and recognize as a precursor to bedtime. A special snuggly blanket that is only used when she sleeps by herself.

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Leigh - posted on 04/18/2010

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Vidyut Kale- Thankyou for your reply im glad its not just my bub.

dose your bub get cranky and only want you after a certain time at night? (not happy to play)

Leigh - posted on 04/18/2010

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Jamie- Thankyou for your reply it made me feel more confident to be BF my girl to sleep, as "they" have been saying it alot not to BF to sleep or co sleep, i have been BF and co sleeping for the last few nights and it is easier and were both happier and sleeping.
I dont like the CIO method either, but i have been trying to get her to stay in her bed by sitting and keeping her company and it has been working most of the time but not after 10pm she just wants to be held by me or up with me.

Vidyut - posted on 04/15/2010

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N is like that. Not much of a sleeper in any case. I find that everyone is happiest when I let him do his thing and he conks off between midnight and 2am. Very rarely he will want to sleep earlier.

I don't really have a problem with it. Its not like our home has a closing time or he needs to go somewhere in the morning :D

Jamie - posted on 04/14/2010

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Honestly I think your child knows what is best for her, just relax your "have to's " and let her natural sleep pattern emerge. These things might help too: get a routine of eating, bath time, read a book and then laying down, lower the lights, don't stress out!

I breast feed too and I lay down with her and feed my daughter to sleep (we co sleep in the 'big' bed). She goes down at 830pm every night and wakes up every 3-4 hours to twilight feed (both of us don't fully wake up) she then wakes up 7-9am. I have never been able to feed her then put her down, her eyes pop open right away ^_^ and I don't 'do' the cry it out method for personal reasons.
Nursing to sleep has gotten a seriously bad rap lately, but hey it works for us and I get all the sleep I need plus some down time in the PM with my husband before I join Lucy.

Leigh - posted on 04/13/2010

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Thanks girls for your help and advice.
I will keep her awake in the early morning and see how we go.

Amanda - posted on 04/10/2010

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this must be really frustrating for you!

I have used routines from the save our sleep book because i had trouble with mine waking at 2 am.
i would suggest trying to keep her up after her morning feed, my health nurse also encouraged this with matilda, she said that after a long night sleep its very easy for them to go back down again but they really encourage feed play sleep. is she having breakfast? as the time you keep her awake could be a good time to introduce it.

we wake at 6.30 for a bottle have cereal at 8 down for a 2 hr nap at 9 she wakes at 11 for a bottle and lunch at 12 another 2 hr nap at1pm. wakes at 3 pm for a bottle and down at 4.30 for an hour. dinner is at 5.30 then bath, bottle at 6.30 and bed at 7.

sounds like your on the right track, just might need to start your day earlier. its hard making changes but stick with it and wake them when you need to they soon wake themselves at the right times...
good luck

Mindy - posted on 04/08/2010

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Oh goodness!! That sounds maddening! The only two things I can think of is try to get a night time routine going and stick with it. Also I read that, with newborns at least, taking them out in the sun and most importantly during sunset helps them get their biological clock in sync. Hope you get it figured out! Good luck!!

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