cows milk

Kimberly - posted on 11/10/2008

Lisa - not disagreeing with you on the consumption of to much soy and definately not trying to argue with you; but round-up is not a steroid it's a salt. I personally would rather that all food was raised in a natural/organic manner but of all those nasty chemicals out there round-up is one of the safest.

Juli - posted on 11/10/2008

Just reading all the posts, I'm glad I don't have teeny tiny babies to make these decisions for. So much information, so many concerns to consider!

Makes me wonder, though, about lengthening the time of breast feeding.

We know that in many parts of the world women breastfeed for years. Breast milk being the best choice for babies, but often in places where clean water is hard to come by women breastfeed young children until age 3 or 4 or longer. Here in the US, some women breast feed their small children after 12 months. My son breastfed for 18 months.

Do you remember a year or two ago, the family from Oregon who got stuck in their car in a blizzard for a week and Mom breastfed both the baby and the 4 year old and they survived. They credited the pre-schoolers survival with being breastfed by mom that week.



With all these health scares and concerns perhaps we should be asking our pediatricians about continuing to breastfeed or pumping and providing breast milk in a cup. Then you KNOW where the milk came from! LOL

Lisa - posted on 11/09/2008

Soy is a huge lie that has been fed to us. almost all soy is GMO and actually "bred" to be ROUND-UP resistant. so the farmers spray that stuff on all their fields and while everything else wither and dies- our fad "healthy" soy plants keep on growing. Round-up is a steriod by the way- do you like the idea of feeding you precious little one that? Don't just believe me- please for your sweet darling's sake- do some research on your own on the round-up issue. As well that is NOT the only issue! Soy has been shown in MANY studies to act as a false hormone leasing to tons and tons of problems in our bodies. I challenge you to go thru your food at home and see how many things have soy in them- you'll be amazed.

Kimberly - posted on 11/09/2008

Cows milk is very difficult for the human digestive system to deal with, thus all the allergies. Because I am severely allergic to dairy I won't allow my children any form of dairy until they are two years old (cheese anything). When I wean them at 1 year I start giving them a weanling recipe that my doctor gave me. It includes rice milk (I use Rice Dream organic original enriched), a pediatric vit/min, cal/mag and oil for the omegas (I use Udo's Oil). It sounds and tastes horrible and I figured there would be no way my child would ever drink it. Both of my children have attacked it like it was liquid candy. They LOVE it! They get this formula for a year. Then when they are two years old I give them a chewable multi and start introducing dairy incredibly slowly. I choose to use goat milk products because goats milk is closer to human and easier to digest. *shrug* anyways, that's what I do.... :)

Keri - posted on 11/06/2008

Please check out mercola.com and search soy. It's very disturbing.

Nadine - posted on 11/06/2008

Emily I totally agree with you. We do get soy on occasion, like when it's on sale. :) But yeah, we try to stay away from the extra estrogen too.

Emily - posted on 11/06/2008

Soy has so much estrogen in it, that we try to avoid it. We also don't eat dairy products, so rice milk is our milk of choice. Occasionally I'll give the girls soy milk as a special treat. They love it. I just don't want to overdo the soy...its in the cheese we eat, tofu, and butter. So I don't want it to be in a staple, like milk.

Jenna - posted on 11/06/2008

ok, I may get flamed here for saying this, but in reality, raw cow's or goats milk from clean, organic sources is the best milk. However, it is VERY hard to find in America, seeing as how the FDA has made it basically illegal. All of the allergies and problems we have related to milk are because we are drinking ultra-processed, pasteurized milk that hardly has any resemblance to real milk at all. PLUS all the nasty chemicals and hormones that are in milk. I grew up drinking raw milk. But now I can't find it. So we drink milk as natural as we can find it, which in my area happens to be from a dairy called Royal Crest. I am able to find now more raw cheeses and such, so I buy those whenever I see them. Check out this link for more info on raw milk: http://www.realmilk.com/

Also, I agree with the previous poster who stated that humans may be the only species that drink milk after weaning, but yes, we are also intelligent beings with the means of growing crops, cooking food, driving cars, etc...

With all of that said, I also think Soy, Rice, and/or Almond milk are wonderful!

Nadine - posted on 11/06/2008

sorry for all the typos, typing too fast! :)

Nadine - posted on 11/06/2008

http://www.notmilk.com/



This has tons of research so it's worth wading through.

"Cow's Milk and other dairy products are also a big problem. I frequently see patients with chronic ear infections and runny noses. The culprit is lamost always dairy products. I usually advise parents to take tehir child off of cow's milk. Invariably they return a month later with what appears to be a different child-no ear infection, no congestion, and no runny nose." Peter S. Waldstein, M.D., F.A.A.P. Clinical Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, UCLA Attending Physician, Cedars Sinai Medical Center



"Blood is found in nearly all cow's milk. The USDA actually allows one-thirtieth of an ounce of white blood cells...per milliliter of milk." Not to mention the thirty or so drugs found in milk..ointments antibiotics, IGF-I which has been linked to breast, prostate, colon,a nd lung cancer and milk has been linked to heart disease. Bovine serum albumin is the milk protein responsible for the onset of diabetes. "Dairy products contain 25 different proteins that are difficult for an adult to digest....not to mention a child" Healthy Kids, Marilu Henner.



I could go on and on. Good luck in your decision. I know it wasn't a hard one for us to make and we do eat dairy on occasion but not everyday. We see an holistic pediatrician and they see no issues with it either.

Jen - posted on 11/06/2008

thank you! of course i was going to check with my dr first!, just wanted to know if there were moms out there who have done this before i brought it up to the pediatrician. She's only 4 mos. so i have some time to do my research. She has no problem with cows milk,(she hasn't tried it yet) this was just something i was looking into. Thank you for all the great information and where to research further information.

Juli - posted on 11/06/2008

Does your child have a problem with cow's milk?

If not I would check with your pediatrician first.

Watch your sources of information.

Just because something is on tv, in a book or a magazine does not mean that it is research based scientific information.

Check with your local cooperative extension office. All the info they get is research based and comes from your state's land grant university.

Human beings are also the only species with higher thinking skills as well a a soul. And sometimes mothers of one species adopt babies from another and nurse them.



But back to nutrition...

There's nothing wrong with whole cow's milk for children ages 12 - 24 months as long as they have no allergy to it. Once they reach 24 months it's usually recommended to switch to 2% or 1% milk.

When considering Rice or Soy milk, check to see if it is calcium fortified.

Keep in mind when choosing your milks: milk comes from a cow, rice milk and soy milk are made in a lab.

You might ask your pediatrician about goats milk while you're at it...

Nadine - posted on 11/06/2008

my kids are very healthy and have been raised up on Rice Milk after nursing of course. :) Occasionally some Almond Milk.

Maryn - posted on 11/06/2008

My little guy was/is sensitive to cow's milk. I've given him rice milk for a long time. He is now back to cow's milk, so we'll see what happens but he did fine on rice milk. They say not to do it before age 1 though. My son is small but he eats a lot. I still give him cheese and other milk products. My biggest fear with rice milk or nondairy diet is calicum intake. It took a lot of effort to find foods with calcium that he would eat. Hope some of this helps! BTW-I hear, without backup research, that soy isn't good in large quanities either????