My 18 month old daughter is still allergic to cow's milk???!!

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I need some advice ladies! My doctor recommended soy milk as the best alternative to cow's milk but after doing some research I don't believe that to be the case.........it's extremely high in estrogen amoung other things! I have a link I can provide if anyone's interested? Anyhow, I've heard arguments for rice milk, soy milk, goat's milk etc.......she is currently on a follow-up formula for enfants 12- 18 plus months but it's exspensive and I'm not sure if it's necessary?? What is ur EDUCATED suggestion as the best alternative to cow's milk and why?

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Alexa - posted on 03/08/2010

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Hi I have a 20 month old and by choice we do not give him any milk. I come from a largely milk free culture and surprise, surprise I never met anyone with bad teeth or suffering from osteoporosis before I moved to the west. I guess you have done plenty of research on alternatives by now, but I completely agree with Jenette above that your child can get lots of calcium vitamins and fats from vegetables, some fruit and seeds. I do not recommend nuts as these are hard for children to digest before the age of three and if she is not already allergic to them, they might lead to certain allergies. When she is older and can digest nuts it may be better to stick to the less moldy nuts like almonds and brazil nuts. Peanuts are a complete no, no at any age.



I give my son green veg with every meal, he gets a green smoothie most days in the morning or as a snack later on in the day. I also give him lots of oils for calories like olive oil, sesame seed oil, flax seed oil and avocado. He gets seed spreads like sesame and occasionally I let him have a sip of my pumpkin milk. Fruits are a small part of his diet as sugars use up calcium and other minerals to be digested. They do contain lots of vitamins but so do veggies and veggies have less sugar. He is very healthy and in the 70th percentile when it comes to height and weight.



Always remember if your child is allergic to something there is a reason for this. Cow's milk is meant for cows not humans. Same as human milk is meant for humans. Cow's have three stomachs to help them digest their complex milk. Humans only have one. Would you give your child cow feed or grass to chew on? Well cow milk is baby cow feed/food.



As long as you have a varied diet with lots of options and research properly what she is getting from every food type she eats she will probably be ok.



I hope this helps. For a green smoothie recipe check out www.preciousmouthfuls.com



Alexa

Sharlie - posted on 03/09/2010

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i have a 5 year old daughter she is the same been like that since she was lil they did tests on her when she was one but it happen when she was about 15months old ... my lil girl loves soy milk it is way better for them i think my docton told me the same thing . she has to have everthing soy .. but she loves it they have ice cream and heaps of other stuff that your lil one would like .. and iv had no problems with my 5 year old been on soy i hope sum of this helps you..

Valerie - posted on 04/26/2010

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My son can't have cows milk. He is lactose and tolerant. You should try Lactaid. He has done very good with it since he started drinking while before he had problems digesting cows milk. They also put out an ice cream if your child is able to drink this milk. I hope that this has helped you.

Stephanie - posted on 03/09/2010

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I'm not very educated on the subject but I'm not to that point yet. But is it all cows milk or just whole milk because when I was little I couldn't have whole milk do to the fat content. it would make me sick. But other milk like 2% was fine. I also drank goats milk and did fine.

Jenette - posted on 03/04/2010

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Hi Dana. At 18 months your daughter does not need to be on a formula anymore and she can get all her nutrients including calcium from many other sources. You will be surprised how many fresh fruit and vegetables actually contain calcium. Nuts & seeds are high in calcium and if she has no nut allergies you can give her nut and seed spreads, like tahini or macadamia nut spread (available at selected dischems and health shops). Out of all the different milks though, rice milk is probably one of the safest, if you need to give her milk. There is also a Nature's Choice" product called "Swiss Dream" which is in powder form but you just mix it with water. My kids love it! It is not dairy or soya and it is also rich in nutrients.
Hope this information helps!

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Crystal - posted on 07/02/2010

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we had to give our daughter gatorade when she turned 1 she couldnt have milk we gave her soy and the wic office gave her the toddler soy that messed her up she couldnt have any type of milk after that so she drink gatorade for 6 mouth swith us lettign her have milk once a mouth to see if she grew out of it she finially did now she is 3 yrs old && only drinks milk with strawberry mix she will not drink anything else except water sprite zero she hates juice so good look i hope she grows out of it like my daughter did also do vitamins if she cant drink milk i know alot of kids that age that dont drink milk at all by 15 months

Rochelle - posted on 07/01/2010

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I agree with the ladies when I say there are more ways to get your calcium then by cows milk... y 3 month old is also allergic to cows milk and my doctor said it was fine for me to drink rice milk but he only breastfeeds so I take a calcium suppleent as well for me

Rhonda - posted on 03/11/2010

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Hi Dana, perhaps it's the Casein (protein) in the Milk? You can add Calcium Powder to Rice Milk if your concerned about the lack of Calcium. There is alot of research stating we don't need Milk or Gluten in our diets. Also mention the more we get back to basics the better, no processed foods, additives etc. My son is doing really well on a Casein & Gluten Free Diet. He no longer has bowel problems, his skin has cleared, black rings under his eyes have gone... lots of benefits to getting back to old style food. Hope this helps. If you would like research links to websites etc just let me know. Cheers

Rhonda (-:

Emmie - posted on 03/11/2010

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Goats milk is really good, I have alot of cousins who are all natural and thats what they give there kids from infants on up. There kids are as healthy as can be, I would have used it from my sons birth on up but my fiance is not a fan of all natural. you should try!!

Andrea - posted on 03/10/2010

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I agree with Bethanie. My step daughter Damaris was also allergic to cow's milk and she drank goat's milk for a long time until her system could handle it. Now she is better but even if your daughter doesn't get used to cow's milk, goat's milk is a great choice even if it is a little more expensive.

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Thanks Alexa! I do agree that cow's milk is completely unecessary; I was just looking for some alternatives! Nutrition is very important in our family and I just wanted to say thanks for the website! My daughter LOVES smoothie's! They're a great way to throw in all that healthy ' junk ' that she wouldn't have otherwise gotten!

Bethanie - posted on 03/07/2010

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Heather: Is your daughter's allergy to the lactose or protein? If it's lactose, they make lactose free milk. You may be able to find Goat's milk at some larger grocery retailers or at a local specialty health foods store. Not sure is they make other cheeses out of Goats milk other then feta.

Heather - posted on 03/07/2010

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Bethanie, where would I look to buy goats milk or cheese? Is it in a reguler grocery store?

Heather - posted on 03/07/2010

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My daughter (2yrs) can't have cows milk, or cheese. I do use soy, but her Dr's have said if I am uncomfortable with it, Yogurt has a higher concentration of calcium than milk or cheese.

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Formula is based on cows milk, so I am suprised she is ok with that, if allergic to straight cows milk. However, if she is ok with it, it is probably a good alternative for her. Formula is not necessery for kids over 1 yo, IF they have a balanced diet (which usually includes cows milk). However it is also not harmful. Though like you said, it is expensive.



I have heard an argument for cycling between rice milk goats milk oat milk and almond milk for those that don't tollerate cows milk. The reason being that each has benefits but non provide everything you might want. So if she has a few days on one (until the carton is finished) then a few days on another etc etc, she is getting the best of all worlds.



I agree about soy. I wouldn't give it to my bub, and limit strongly the amount of tofu we eat, also for the estrogen factor.



The other thing to think about is that they don't actually need milk at this age. What they need is calcium, and that can be got from other sources (provided she is a good eater). Sesame seeds are one of the highest sources of calcium, so using Tahini in everything and as a spread on bread is good. Homous is also great, as it contains tahini (in fact homous is a wonderful food all round). We also put ground seeds (including sesame) on our oats in the morning. Green veg are also a good source of calcium (broccolli spinach etc).



I know of one little boy who refused milk from a cup, so when his mum gave up breastfeeding (when he was 1yo) that was pretty much the end of his milk intake. He is now an extremely healthy 4yo, and a bit above average for height and weight.



(sorry for the repetion, I hadn't read the other answers when I posted!)

Bethanie - posted on 03/04/2010

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Per your request for more ways to get her to eat the "healthy, less desirable food", for beans, I made my son a bean dip the other day with white beans (or chick peas would work), a little honey, a dash of garlic powder, salt and a sprinkle of wheat germ and mashed it all together with a fork for slightly chunky "dip". I made this to entice him to try some raw veggies (we've done mostly cooked because of choking hazard up until now) and he ended up leaving the veggies and ate the beans with a spoon! My son loves peas on their own, but mixed in with a shephards pie would be good. Can't speak about the oranges cause my son isn't a fan, too tart. The other night I made him steamed broccoli (which he has loved in the past) and he kept spitting it out. So, I had some reserved broccoli and for breakfast mixed it in with his scrambled eggs and some cheese and he was all over it! You could also make little crustless quiches for her. Use a mini muffin tin (or a big one would work, too), scramble some eggs, pour into greased muffin tin, put in a veggie of choice (spinach, broccoli, squash) and a little cheese and bake them at 350 until set, not sure how long, I just watch them. Also, veggies pancakes are a great way to sneak in the veggies, too!

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Thanks again Bethanie! I've done a lot more research in the last couple days and I've although I haven't made any concrete decisions I have come to one conclusion! I'm already doin an ok job! LOL! Ur right, there's sooo many contradicting articles and opinions it's hard not to second guess urself, but, I know that my daughter gets plenty of calcium and protein from other healthy, natural sources like beans, peas, oranges, tofu, broccoli, spinach, cheese and yogurt to name a few........( please feel free to make some suggestions if you know of any more foods or tricks to get them to eat these less desirable, healthy natural foods! )



I've already taken ur advice about the multivitamin so THANKS again! I think it's a great idea and definitely won't hurt! I really appreciate ur opinion and thanks for all the facts and the link! Goats milk seems like it might be a good fit for my daughter once in while so next doctors visit I'm gonna ask her why she said no to it the first time I asked because it was originally my first choice because that's what my mom gave us when we were young!

Bethanie - posted on 03/04/2010

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This is why I would say no to Rice Milk for your daughter:

Cow Milk calories 150 protein 8g carbohydrate 11g fat 8g calcium 291mg

Rice Dream Milk calories 120 Protein 1g carbohydrate 30g fat 2g calcium 20mg



As you can see just from the nutrional facts comparison, Rice Milk is a very poor substitute for the things that cow's milk provides. There are better options. Here is the site I found this on: http://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bnutr...,,3vrt,00.html



This is why I would say yes to Goats Milk:

· Nutrient content of goat milk is slightly less than cow milk but goat milk is more digestible because the fat molecules are one-fifth the size of those from cow milk -- making it easily tolerated by those with compromised digestive systems.

· Seventy-two percent of the milk used throughout the world is from goats. It is one-third richer than cows milk but more nourishing and easier to digest.

· The flavor of goat milk is comparable to that of cow milk. Goat milk has a milder taste.

· Goat milk has no cream separation because of smaller fat molecules.

· Goat milk contains pre-formed Vitamin A in the milk fat that allows it to be readily available for use by the body.

· Goats milk contains a more highly-evolved cholesterol than cows milk, making it more available for absorption to the brain and body. (Cholesterol is essential to the health of the myelin sheaths "white matter" of the nerves in the brain.)

· Goat milk is closer to human milk and is therefore easily accepted especially by those young or frail.

· Goat milk has an alkaline reaction the same as mother's milk. Cow milk has an acid reaction

· Goat milk does not form mucous (phlegm) and is therefore better tolerated by asthmatics and those with allergies.

· Goat milk contains more chlorine, fluorine and silicon than any other domestic livestock. Chlorine and fluorine are natural germicides and fluorine assists in preventing diabetes.

· Goat milk contains 2% curd, which precipitates in the stomach. Cows milk is 10% curd.

· Goats are naturally immune to diseases, such as tuberculosis, and are used in third-world countries to actually cure tuberculosis because of their inherent antibodies.

· Goats milk is tolerated by a compromised /damaged liver because of the smaller fat molecules and it's naturally homogenized.

· Goats milk has the ability to "sweeten" the intestinal tract and assist with constipation.

· Goats milk contains a higher evolved carotene (pro-Vitamin A). Researchers have found this to have cancer preventing properties.

I found this info at this site:

http://altmedangel.com/milkcomp.htm

My neighbor, who is a homeopathic nutrionist, has been drinking this for years and feels it is far superior to cow's milk.



It seems you've done your research on Soy, and I can tell you still wouldn't want to give it to your daughter. :) I'm still a bit on the fence about it myself. Soy is a good "substitute" for most because of the protein content and the fact that it's easily fortified with the other missing vitamins. As I'm sure you know, you don't HAVE to give your daughter anything along the lines of milk. Along with Multi Vitamin I suggested before, you can give her a Vitamin D supplement, too if you don't feel like she is getting enough in her diet. Everyone is going to have their contradictory views about all of these, but these are my "educated" opinions. Don't give her Soy just cause the doctor recommended it. Do what you think is best and what you feel is good for her. Good luck!

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