Too much juice/not enuf water?

Chris - posted on 12/01/2009

I'm closing this conversation. I know my last post was kind of mean, but I'm sorry. Keep those kind of comments to yourself. I don't ever beat my kid. She gets a firm no and a little slap on the leg or a tiny flick on the mouth. I'm not abusing her, and I believe God meant what He said. Sorry, if you still have beef with me then feel free to message me privately. And please, don't go around telling moms you hope the cops get involved. Keep that crap to yourself please.

Chris - posted on 12/01/2009

Quoting Michelle:

Quoting Chris:

Might i add here that she has never thrown a fit or screamed in the store!!!! When she screams for something she wants, she gets a light flick to her mouth/cheek.... it hurts, I hold her, and she gets over it....

and hopefully someone catches you doing this and calls the police to get cps involved... seriously your child behaves cuz she's scared she'll get her butt kicked

HA - well I'll let you know I get compliments for not letting her do whatever she wants. This is a site to encourage and if you can't do that maybe you should go somewhere else where they want negativeness and stupidity. I'm sorry, but I bet your kids are regular brats that throw fits huh? Your probably the mom I saw the other day who's kid was screaming and screaming the whole damn time you were in the store. Gosh, if you would've heard the complaints from everyone the next aisle over.... they were saying your kid needed a good hard spanking. So there. Go spank your brats and leave my well behaved child alone. NOBODY has ever complained to me or given me looks about her crying or my being stern with her. If you can train a dog, you can train a child. Too bad your mom didn't know that!

Cathralynn - posted on 12/01/2009

To each their own I guess. My daughter only threw the slightest fits starting at around a year, and knowing that its due to her being unable to express herself cause pf lack of words and I feel it is completely acceptable for her to be angry in a situation, only that she learn the correct communication, there is no need to punish her for that. I just walk away, she gets no response and stops in a min, before I have even left the room. When she learns the correct way of reacting she will get a positive response. It works great for our situation. I am of course someone who differs from your views, Chris, and feel that physical discipline is an adult temper tantrum and there is no way to do it wothout anger. How do you feel that hurting is teaching anything? But I digress, I also have a happy daughter who is well bahaved mostly and who doesn't throw tantrums in public, yet :), and whom I don't scream at either. And I didn't have to hurt her to achieve that. Patience. Sorry to disagree and to rant. Good luck with the juice issue.

Michelle - posted on 11/30/2009

Quoting Chris:

Might i add here that she has never thrown a fit or screamed in the store!!!! When she screams for something she wants, she gets a light flick to her mouth/cheek.... it hurts, I hold her, and she gets over it....

and hopefully someone catches you doing this and calls the police to get cps involved... seriously your child behaves cuz she's scared she'll get her butt kicked

Chris - posted on 11/30/2009

Might i add here that she has never thrown a fit or screamed in the store!!!! When she screams for something she wants, she gets a light flick to her mouth/cheek.... it hurts, I hold her, and she gets over it....

Chris - posted on 11/30/2009

I never ignore anything. (that is, not intentionally! :) If my daughter throws herself on the floor her leg gets slapped. I try never to slap or snap in anger, tho. I just hate when I go thru the store and there are kids throwing fits for everything and screaming and all the mom does is scream back. I know you have to be careful now-a-days, but I am a firm believer in spanking and discipline. Because of that I feel like I have a really happy, well behaved almost 2 yr old. Sure, she has her moments, but she is well aware of what no means and I don't give in. Ignoring never seemed like a good way of handling it, altho others will differ I'm sure. I would never ignore a lie or stealing, so why a fit or temper tantrum?! I tried ignoring for a little and it just made her cry longer and harder and come and pull on me and such. When I decided there was a better way (the Bible says spare the rod and spoil the child!) it shortened the 'spell' by half at least. Sure she cries but I hug her while she is crying and usually she is happy again really soon.

Cathralynn - posted on 11/30/2009

Ahh pick your battles I say. If you only give her water in the sports bottle, who cares if she spills. A few times and she'll learn not to. Plus I forgot you are diluting the juice with water I'm sure that counts too. Just only give her 4oz of undiluted juice a day. If you dilute it 1oz juice to 3oz water then she gets juice 4 times right? If she won't drink it then her choices are straight water and milk. Good job! Do you just ignore the fits and crying? That's what I do but that doesn't stop her from trying. Do you have a magic trick?

Chris - posted on 11/30/2009

Thanks for the advice. I did start cutting back the juice and even diluting it even more. Oh course she noticed :) but she doesn't get a way with fits or crying for what she wants, so she is getting used to it! I noticed she likes to drink out of a sports bottle (she will chug down a ton of water that way!) but they don't make them non-spill do they?

Cathralynn - posted on 11/30/2009

Another thing is flouride. They get it from tap water and need it now, after a year old. So if your girls not drinking enough water ask your doc bout flouride drops or something. But its something I'd work on, water is the healthiest drink for kids and that doesn't change into adulthood. I'd stop the juice, even for a brief period until your daughter knows its a treat and she needs to drink water first. I have also had great success with straws. My girl only recently started using them, she drank out of a regular cup fine so we never tried. But she thinks they are great fun. Maybe a special straw or cup/straw bottle? I also put tap water in a container in the fridge and use that. My daughter loves cold water and we have to refill when she back washes into the cup. She won't drink dirty water! Good luck! Our job as parents is to do what's best for them, not necessarily what they like!

Ginette - posted on 11/27/2009

My girls prefer their water in their stainless steel straw bottles. I give them one glass of juice a day in a plastic cup. When I want them drinking water, I know they will drink it out of the stainless steel bottles, and they don't even ask for juice when they see the bottles coming.

Michelle - posted on 11/27/2009

juice is supposed to be under 4 ounces a day... my kids dont drink juice PERIOD

Chris - posted on 11/25/2009

She used to drink water all the time and then somehow she got into juice. I ONLY give her 100% juice - and usually water it down. She does good with her milk, and loves yogurt so I'm not worried about calcium at this point. She doesn't get juice later then like 6pm-ish

Cathralynn - posted on 11/25/2009

My doc says babies should have 3 servings of dairy a day, it does not have to be milk. A serving is 8oz milk, 2oz cheese, or a cup of yogurt. They should also get 8oz of water a day, more if constipated. There is no nutritional benefit to juice, it has too much sugar and the natural fruit itself is better. Limit it to less than 4oz a day. We do none at our house. My opinion is to get my daughter used to enjoying milk and water, then add other beverages as treats when she is older. Talk to your doc, they should be able to advise you. Or google the WHO recommendations, they have guidelines for each age group.

Karen - posted on 11/24/2009

Too much juice/milk, and not enough water can become habitual and when that happens, perhaps the child will automatically not accept drinking water. Water is so essential to all our most basic of needs and especially for children. It will also make for stronger urine at time which will most certainly irritate a little bottom by becoming red, burned looking and perhaps painful to the child. Water, water water, get them in the habit of drinking it young. Restrict sweet juices and such to well ahead of bed times. The citric and or lactic acids will erode their dental enamels at night if offered regularily especially at bedtimes in a bottle.