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Tina - posted on 09/30/2011 ( 123 moms have responded )

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I'm wondering how other people feel about parents/gardians smoking inside or in a car with children. It's illegal to do it where I live yet people who disagree with the rule still do it. Even people who have children who tend to get sick often or have asthma.

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Becky - posted on 10/03/2011

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Smoking in your home or vehicle with your children is irresponsible. May not make you irresponsible as a whole, but it is an irresponsible act.

Ez - posted on 10/01/2011

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Rebecca, of course the best option is to not smoke lol. I quit easily while pregnant, but once she was born the cravings came back. I fought them daily for 6 months until I started again. Stupid? Absolutely. Do I wish I had never started again? Yep. But it is what it is, so until I find myself in a place where I can face quitting, the next best thing is to minimise the risks. That means not smoking inside the house or car, washing hands, and not smoking with her near me even when we are outside.

Ez - posted on 10/01/2011

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I am a smoker but I sure as shit do not smoke inside my house or car!

It should be illegal everywhere. Well really, it should just be common sense.. but we all know that is severely lacking in some people/

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Just pointing out the elephant in the room America. One is proven to cause lung cancer, one is not proven to cause the flu.

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I don't want to bring another thread into this, and we can continue it in there...but with the vaccination thread. You are adamant not to give it because you are sure it causes the flu, without hardcore proof. Cigarettes are known medically to cause cancer to the smoker...but can also cause cancer through second hand smoke. Cancer is much more deadly than the flu, yet you are willing to smoke, AND you expose your children.

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Nicole - posted on 01/02/2012

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I personally feel that smoking is a disgusting habit. It's unhealthy, it stinks, it creates an unhealthy environment (through it's processing, packaging, left over packaging, pollutes the air, and many smokers litter the grounds with their icky butts), it's addicting, and it tends to make those who smoke a bit inconsiderate to others around them. And, yes, I like to be proven otherwise by considerate smokers, but sadly for most smokers, the monkey on their back, so to speak, tends to leave no room for the consideration that maybe their children and non-smokers, shouldn't be, nor may not WANT to be, exposed to their stinky, unhealthy habit. I'm not saying that smokers are bad people or that they have any intentions to be inconsiderate to other people, I just know that after marrying a man who had a 15+ year smoking habit before quitting, that even very considerate and kind people can have tunnel vision when the drive for a smoke arises.

Lisa - posted on 01/01/2012

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I think when someone quotes that cigaretts kill x amount of ppl per year you need to concider that number is heart diseas, lung cancer and smoking related illness. What I am trying to say is this, when you die of lung cancer cigaretts could be the cause but there are other factors, but when you die of a car accident, it was definatly the accident..... this means when you say more ppl are killed by cigaretts, thats pretty hard to actually prove. Not defending smoking, (I am a non smoker) Just bothered by what I concider inacurate info.

Candi - posted on 11/07/2011

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I disagree with it. When I was growing up my dad smoked with my sister, brother and myself in the car and we now all have asthma and Im allergic to it and most of the time cant be around it without having an asthma attack. I thin kif the parents are going to smoke then they should do it away from the child(ren) for their health and safety.

Amanda - posted on 10/26/2011

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my view is that if you want to harm your self with smoking fine but why harm your children in the process ??? just hope out of the car or home to have a smoke is it that difficult ?

Mary - posted on 10/21/2011

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It's about protecting the child , I think it should be illegal to smoke around children . Adddiction is a nasty thing I have been there we quit and now I am beginning to wonder if tobacco should be outlawed like drugs . It takes a year or better to quit and be reasonably off tobacco . It is a awful craving . And most parents somke around their children . Even if it makes them sick . We were starting to see how it was afecting out children when we quit .

Maggie - posted on 10/17/2011

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its illegal here to smoke with a kid in the car not sure about the home and ya ppl do it n e ways. i smoke outside

Monique - posted on 10/13/2011

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I am a smoker, but I disagree with smoking in my house or have anyone do it in my house or in my car with my kids or anyone else's!! Everyone knows the dangers and some of us still smoke! I believe it's a personal choice and that you should not harm anyone else in the process! That includes kids and other adults !!

Samantha - posted on 10/13/2011

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as a parent its irresponsible. When you become a parent your childs health and safety should be your first priority in life. Smoking in a car with a child or near a child for that matter is outrageous. If you have that little commen sense maybe your not ready to be a parent? if smoking isnt recommended during pregnancy because it could be harmful to the baby what makes a person think its ok to smoke near or around a baby?? insane! you have no respect for your childs health when you do this. me and my husband both smoke but only outside and even then when we come in our hands are washed immediately and we usually throw on an old shit b4 heading out so that when we come back in we can pull it off and the smoke smell is not so strong.

Cara - posted on 10/09/2011

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I do smoke but quit during both pregnancies and we have NEVER smoked in the house, in the car or around the kids. It is illegal to smoke in the car here IF the windows are up or if there is a child in the car. I personally just dont want it around my kids like that

Brittany - posted on 10/09/2011

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Part of the reason why it is so hard to quit smoking (someone had mentioned their struggle) is because, when you smoke you destroy the MAO in your brain which is the enzyme breaks down the neurotransmitter dopamine. This results in a higher level of dopamine, which feeds addictions.

Here check this out and look at the brain scans. The darker areas of the brain on the bottom are the increased levels of dopamine.

http://archives.drugabuse.gov/NIDA_Notes...

Here is the brain of a non-marijuana smoker and a marijuana smoker (just for good measure)

http://www.smokedepot.net/2010/10/13/neu...

Corinne - posted on 10/09/2011

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I don't smoke but my husband does but only occassionally. He doesn't smoke in the house and never did in the car either; he's never smoked in front of the kids (or his mother). He now has a chair in the shed so he can smoke and stay dry. My Mum is also a smoker and she always goes outside or to the shed to smoke if she visits, but told both myself and my sister that she would smoke in her home as and when she wanted to, it was up to us if we wanted to take our kids round. I pop in occassionally but as she's smoked for forever and has lived there for 26 years, the house absolutely reeks. Honestly, she paints the walls white every Christmas but you can't tell because they're stained icky yelliow. Not nice.

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Wow! It's been a long time since I've been here.

I don't think people should smoke in the house when they have kids but to make it illegal, come on! I don't smoke inside because i choose not to...

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My friend's father is a very heavy smoker. When she has lent me things that have been stored at her parents' place (they live downstairs from her), they reek of cigarette smoke.

Both her kids (age 3 and 5) suffer from asthma and chronic bronchitis. :(

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 10/09/2011

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There is no smoking inside in Canada or New York State :) Texas and Nevada do still allow smoking inside places.

I just don't care for the smell of pot. I have friends who do that as well as relatives

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No smoking indoors were i live(pubs, food places and shops, taxi etc)You can choose yourself in your own home and car.I don't allow my other half to smoke in the house or in the car.I find it horrible to subject children and adults who don't smoke to passive smoke.
I find it very rude if you don't take that into consideration as a smoker also.
If you invite me and my young children over esp as babys, have the respect to not smoke in the house when we are there.
I was very strict on smoking around me and esp around my daughters.Its a horrible habit but i understand its an addiction also.I give lots of understanding and i encourage my other half to cut down and hopefully eventually give up altogether.

Charlie - posted on 10/08/2011

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" and their response is "I live in a free country, screw you."

Kind of hypocritical isn't it ......" I live in a free country, screw you" apparently non smokers arent free to enjoy a beach without butts or ( in some countries ) a meal without the waft of smoke.

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/08/2011

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I do smoke and have been smoking cigarettes since I was 16. I did quit smoking both times when I was pregnant with my 4 year old son and 2 year old daugter, I resumed smoking after each pregnancies. I don't smoke infront of them, not in the car or inside in the house anymore. I have been finding it hard to quit smoking so far.

Brittany - posted on 10/08/2011

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Meggy,

I do not use marijuana and even if it were legal I would not use it. I do, however, know quite a few people or do or have used it in the past.

I do not care for the smell of it either and I have asked those people not to smoke around me and they have gone out of their way to not smoke marijuana while I am around.

On the other hand I have asked people not to smoke their cancer around me and their response is "I live in a free country, screw you."

My main point on that post is people are willing to pump tar into their body,along with whatever other toxins are ADDED to their tobacco but, want to keep a natural growing plant (that could cure thousands of diseases) illegal.

It makes my brain hurt thinking of why people have that mentality.

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Children can get really sick from second hand smoke from parents and caregivers. Then there's the influence that smoking is acceptable or cool. Way back before the public was made aware of the harm of smoking, chewing and nicotine addiciont, we can forgive the ignorance. But innocent kids troday should have the right to clean air nad to know that not smoking is the best choice.

Angela - posted on 10/07/2011

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What bothers me more than anything is to see young people under 18 smoking. Over here kids can buy cig and smoke legally at age 16. It is pretty lax too because I see 12-15 smoking often.

Jessica - posted on 10/07/2011

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I smoke but I never smoke with my kids in the car with me or for that matter I don't smoke inside my home. I try to be pretty considerate about the people who may come near me when I am smoking so I will go out of my way to go smoke behind a building, etc. I don't want to punish people (my kids included) who don't smoke and never made the stupid choices I did, to have to deal with my smoke. I was raised by a mother who smoked around me and I hated it (until I became a teenager and thought it was "cool" probably cuz my mother did it and never told me it wasn't good for you or highly addictive!) Regardless it really bother me too when I see parents smoking in their cars with kids in the car.

LadyJane - posted on 10/05/2011

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Personally I don't and have never smoked. However, the problem I'm having is that my daughter's father does and had pretty much stated that "his family smokes, deal with it, he's not going to smoke outside..!! I was livid, yet I was forced to allow my daughter to visit him. Then she moved with him and now she comes in stinking like crazy. She's said he doesn't smoke anymore, but she still reeks of the stuff. I've told the courts about this, they don't care. My son is allergic and thank goodness he doesn't have the same father...

I can't stand the smell of it, even if it's done outside. Nasty. I'm afraid my daughter is gonna end up being sick as she gets older, regardless of whether she takes up the nasty habit or not. We've raised her not to, but who knows with his family what will happen.

I can't always tell a person not to smoke, some will give a dirty look or actually blow it more in your face. Daughter's grandma on her father's side actually did that when she was 8 mos old. It took for my daughter's uncle ( related only by marriage to daughter's father's sister) to tell her that if she didn't stop smoking around the kids, he wasn't going to let her see his children anymore... His first born was only 3 days old at this point...

I don't think it is illegal here as I see lots of people smoking in their cars, but I wish it would be. It's a nasty smell and I get sick everytime I'm around it.

Becky - posted on 10/04/2011

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Erin, I wish I wasn't such a chicken and would say something to people who do things like that! Or the woman who was smoking (illegally here, as it turns out) in line directly behind me at an outdoor pancake breakfast when I had my kids in the stroller with me. I wanted to punch her in the face, but I'm too wimpy to even say anything. I really need to grow a backbone when it comes to things like that! Instead, I just come bitch about it on COMs! :)
I do know that not all, probably not even most, smokers are that inconsiderate. We were staying in a hotel while we were travelling and there were several people standing outside - away from the doors, where it was legal, smoking. As we walked past one guy, he put his cigarette down behind his back so it wouldn't blow on our kids. I made sure I smiled and said thank you! It just seems like I run into the jerky ones more often than not!

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 10/04/2011

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Brittany I don't care what marijuana has or hasn't done, the smell of it nauseates me. I don't pass judgement on people who do it though as long as they actually work. My brother does it from time to time and he has a full time job. I know a lot of my neighbours do pot because of the smell, but I also know most of them are college students.

Ez - posted on 10/04/2011

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I was in the playground with my kids a few weeks ago and this woman was pushing her kids on the swing while she was smoking.

See I'm a smoker, and I just think that's foul. I do not smoke when I go out in public with my daughter. I don't even take my cigarettes. I would never stand in a child's playground and light up. Oh and don''t even get me started on women smoking while pushing a pram. Ugh.

You would have been well within your rights to tell that woman off Becky. At the very least, I would have asked her to put it out.

Tina - posted on 10/04/2011

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I just want to add just because you wind the window down in the car doesn't mean you're getting rid of the smoke as a kid I remember it blowing back into my face making me feel quite ill and the ash and that was nasty. Smoking has become so much apart of our everyday life that people just don't think of it as a harmful drug. I think to myself you wouldn't allow your child to sniff nail polish remover or sleep in a freshly painted bedroom yet people will smoke in an enclosed environment around children when the chemicals are just as bad. My partner has quit successfully and I know it's not the case for everyone it is a difficult thing to give up but it's not something that a child should have to live around all the time and just because a child doesn't show immediate signs of it harming them doesn't mean it hasn't. But just getting a sniffly nose or a sore throat is a definate sign that your child has been affected.

Brittany - posted on 10/04/2011

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Over the summer I took the required Speech class and I would like to add something from one of my speeches :

Marijuana has NEVER caused cancer, Marijuana has NEVER been listed as the cause of death and studies done show that THC, either smoked or injected, can help combat breast cancer and reverse it on small level.

The legal cigarette, injected with toxins, that you smoke could cause you to have breast cancer, while the natural growing plant, that will help relieve and fight breast cancer, is illegal!

Check out https://www.marijuanadoctors.com/

Becky - posted on 10/04/2011

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I'm with the others, if you are an adult and you want to smoke, fine. It's your body. But it really bothers me when people do it around non-smokers, especially kids, older people, and pregnant women. (Okay yeah, so I'm a little sensitive on that last one ATM) I was in the playground with my kids a few weeks ago and this woman was pushing her kids on the swing while she was smoking. Stuff like that just disgusts me. I'm a pretty polite, tactful person, but seeing things like that makes me want to be really rude. I don't though. :)

I was in Vegas a couple weekends ago. Oh my goodness, so not the place to go when you're pregnant or if you don't like smoke! The entire strip smells like cigarette smoke! So gross. And people are rude too, nobody cares if they blow smoke in your face as you're walking by. It was my first time in Vegas, and maybe it was just the timing, but I have to say, I was a little turned off!

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 10/04/2011

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Teresa I took care of a lady back in New York who would send care aides away if they smoked because the smell bothered her. She was allowed to do that too.

Now that I haven't smoked in 4 years the smell nauseates me.



However I will admit that cigarette smoke isn't as bad as pot smoke. It's technically illegal in BC but a lot of my neighbours and people at the beach smoke it anyway. Ugh!

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'Toxic' or not Karla... that residue will send me into a coughing fit so bad that I almost puke and unless I get away from it immediately.... I'll have to puff on my inhaler or I'll cough all day.



So yeah, regardless of the research that proves it's toxic.... I've always known it's toxic. ;)

Karla - posted on 10/04/2011

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From Marina "That is considered 3rd hand smoke, and yes studies have found it is also bad"

Wow. Well there you go.

I was reading the wikipedia entry on nicotine... that's interesting. My friend is trying to quit and got one of those fake nicotine cigarettes. It made me wonder if the nicotine is very bad for you, or if it's mainly the tar. All of you probably already know that the nicotine is very bad for your body. It's an interesting substance and very addictive, that's for sure.



I think the fake cigarettes offer a nice method of weaning off cigs though. You still get the oral stimulation, a choice of nicotine strength, and even a little vapor if you want it. I haven't had a cig in 20 years and I'm tempted by these fake things. LOL (damn nicotine!)

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/04/2011

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That is considered 3rd hand smoke, and yes studies have found it is also bad. I would have to find a study to support it for you to read. Shouldn't be to hard.

Karla - posted on 10/04/2011

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I think it's beside the point whether or not a smoker smells like smoke... just don't smoke near children. IMO, you're an adult, you know the risks, you know the addiction, but don't expose any children to those risks and that addiction.



It sounds as though everyone here understands that, and avoids exposing others to 2nd hand smoke.



Do you think the residue/scent on a hoodie is all that toxic? (Oh boy, now I'm wondering if that has been studied.)

Angela - posted on 10/04/2011

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For those who say loads of things can kill you or cause cancer just keep this in mind



Every year tobacco kills more Americans than did World War II — more than AIDS, cocaine, heroin, alcohol, vehicular accidents, homicide and suicide combined.



I use to smoke, I still want a cig sometimes, but I am glad I quit. I enjoyed it too and miss it at times but the truth is I don't want to die any sooner than I need to. You need to be alive to enjoy a smoke so I decided I would just enjoy being alive.

Quitting was the hardest thing I ever did really.

Charlie - posted on 10/03/2011

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I think smoking in close proximity to a child is absolutely vile and illegal in Australia to smoke within a car.

Secondly although I smoke and I cannot personally smell it on myself but I know I smell of it, a person who smokes has a much more diminished sense of smell and taste than those who dont.

Having not smoked for over 6 years I could smell a smoker a mile away, I can tell a person who smokes by their fingers and not just stains its the "old" looking fingers, the dull skin on their face, their teeth, their lips they get the cats ass wrinkles around their mouth as they get old.

As an adult it is my choice to do with my body as I wish but it is NO ONES right to force drugs and carcingonics into a person or child without consent.

ARGHH Im giving up up again ...the more I think about it the grosser it gets.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 10/03/2011

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Marina you don't need to defend it,I'm just telling you what I tell my FIL to give him a hard time and he gives it right back. I mentioned the chemicals he works with but I forgot to add that he doesn't wear a mask like everyone else because he already smokes so much he figures what the hell.

I could probably be friends with you IRL because I'm used to smokers (I'm a care aide so I've dealt with it quite a bit plus a few relatives including my brother and SIL smoke) I don't care if you smoke because like Brittany said they're your lungs and it's your choice. I'm glad that you don't smoke near your kids. I had to have it out with my ex MIL when we started visitation because I believe she smokes more than my FIL. Well that and she doesn't bathe, brush her teeth and has 12 cats so that may account for it since my FIL doesn't smell nearly as bad as she does.

But there are cooler ways to die. You don't get put on 1000 ways to die by smoking. :)

Brittany - posted on 10/03/2011

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P.S. Before I go I do want to say this, so I do not sound like a jerk, I do know it is very hard to quit smoking. I know it is not easy. I am aware that most people who do smoke do not want to smoke. I am not a complete ass when it come to this topic, I promise.

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Every time I see this post my rant switch turns on LOL!

I am not bashing anyone who smokes because, well they are your lungs just keep your cancer out of my lungs! I suppose that is harsh but, that is how I feel.

I know several of you go outside to ingest death and the is good, better then smoking inside. For someone who is a non-smoker we can smell it a mile away.

You can bathe six times and I can still smell it. Even if I do not know if you are a smoker and you smoke outside and I walk into your home I CAN SMELL IT! Lysol, Febreeze, Glade, whatever does not cover it up!

UGH! A friend of mine smokes, on occasion and usually at work. She come to me one day and said "Brittany I got some new shampoo do you want to smell my hair?" Then she threw her hair in my face and I almost fell over. I could only smell smoke in her hair.

It burns my eyes, hurts my chest, I can't stand it. I have a phobia of body odor. Seriously. I am HORRIFIED of body odor. My odor, your odor, kids odor, it drives me NUTS! I blame this fear on my parents. They both used to smoke and I would always feel like I smelled like it. I would ask my non-smoker friend if I smelled and they would say No. Even though they said No I would be thinking Oh well they are just trying to be nice.

Ok ok, it is past my bed time and I have test tomorrow. I did not intend to offend anyone this is just my rant trigger.

Good night everyone /rant off

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Oh, and I never smoke in my home or in my car. Always outside.

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I do usually where a zip up over my cloths, and take it off and leave it else where....I always wash my hands....and I wash my face after too. My hair is always back, this is just routine for me.

I just smelled my hair right now, and I smell shampoo. I had my husband smell it, and he said the same. He lets me know if I start to stink. He doesn't smoke.

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I get what you are saying Teresa. I wear my hair back when I smoke, I don't know. But I tend to really pay attention to how I smell. If I can start smelling me, like I said...I deal with it. I hated it when you could legally smoke in places how your cloths and hair would smell after. It would make me sick.

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I just don't understand how that is even possible though. Even if your bodies don't 'hold' the smoke or whatever.... It's not like you have special smoke repellent clothes that other smokers don't know about.

I know you both say that other people don't know you smoke unless you tell them/they see it and I'm not calling you liars. I just don't get it though.

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It is funny, my sister WREAKS of smoke,.,...I mean she can shower change...have one cigarette....and *gag* she stinks. I think it also depends on how you tend to smoke....She takes a drag, and still holds the cigarrette up really close to her face, like inches....I take a drag, and hold it out away from me...I don't like the smoke from the cigarette or what I inhale blowing back at me. I know to a non smoker, that may not sound like a big deal....but the way you smoke has a lot to do with it. My mom doesn't smell either, and she smokes too.

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LOL, I would LOVE to go to Hawaii! Hell yeah, even it if is just to prove I don't smell. Quite frankly, I can tell when I do....then I jump in the shower and change. If I can start smelling it on my hair...it is time. I am surprisingly sensitive to the smell of smoke, as far as seeking it out.

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Teresa is right I find the same thing Marina. I have had people literally fall over when they have found out I am a smoker and some of them had come to my house for a good year plus. I had watched their kids 4 days a week even. They never knew, until I lit up around them.

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Sherri says the same thing. I think you two need to plan a trip to Hawaii just so I can see if you're telling the truth or not.... ;)

~♥Little Miss - posted on 10/03/2011

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Well, Teresa, if I knew i was going to hang out with you, I would shower, and change my cloths and not smoke until after we were done hanging out. I would not disrespect someone like that.

Jenny, some people carry then smell, and some don't. Usually people see me light up and they are shocked. Really don't care if you believe me...just saying.

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