FF vs. RF carseats

Owen - posted on 06/05/2010

Hi Tonya,
The discussions around car seats go more more around the technology of modern motor cars. Air Bags are the concern here, as many of the newer cars all have airbags in the drivers and passengers head rests and and if in an accident and they deploy the risk of the Child smothering is very high. That is why the specialists suggest the Children under 20 pounds face the rear or wrong way around. Once your Child is 20 pounds or more they should also be old enough to fend a little for themselves and use their hands to remove the airbag from their faces. Kind regards.

Samantha - posted on 06/04/2010

another comment, sort of off topic, I know moms who have put their kids as young as 9 months old in a forward facing, because they were over 20lbs and didnt want to fight with the rear facing. I know its more convenient, but even a big 9 month old doesnt have the muscle control to keep himself safe in a crash. Heck, like the videa show, even an average sized 18 month old doesnt have the strength needed.

Samantha - posted on 06/04/2010

that is very good you never had an accident. I remember at about 6 months right before we switched her from the carrier to the rear facing, thinking "wow I cant wai until shes a year old so I can turn it around and be easier on it" but after hearing all of these reports a few months ago, I made the desicion to keep ehr rear facing as long as its comfortable for her, heck I had My neice the other weekend, she just turned 3, I put her in the rear facing and put Roz back in the carrier for the weekend, instead of taking the tiny booster they have for her. All it is is a cushion basically, its padded and sits in the seat, its not even locked in, her butt holds it down and she is directly seatbelted in, and her parents(my brother and sister in law) feel that is perfectly safe for her.

Stephanie - posted on 06/03/2010

This is such an interesting topic to read about. I have the Britax convertible, I think it is the Marathon. Anyway, my almost 3 yr old has one and my 1 year old has one also. I moved my 1 yr old into this car seat once he could sit on his own, RF of course. For anyone looking for a car seat, this is rated first in safety. It is more expensive, but a child can ride in it until 65 lbs. I personally believe that I couldn't put a price on the safety of my children. I don't want to see the video b/c it will make me sad, but regardless I will be keeping my 1 yr old RFing until he is as close to 2 as possible w/o making him really uncomfortable. I wish they had this recommendation out when my almost 3 yr old was younger. We turned him at 1 and thank goodness never had an accident.

Samantha - posted on 06/03/2010

I odnt have websites, but I used to be on WhatToExpect.com all the time and we discussed this alot. thhey can stay in a carrier as long as their heads are 2 inches from the top of the carrier, once their heads are within 2 inches it is time to move them to rear facing because with their heads so close to the top, they arent getting the neck support they need in a crash.

rear facing vs forward facing is a hot debate too, its law that they are rear facing til 1 year AND 20 lbs, if they are under 20 lbs at a year then they need to stay rear until they are 20 lbs, and if they are over 20 lbs before a year, they still need to stay rear until they are a year old.

Now, there have been studies dont about the safety hazards of forwards facing even at 1 year an 20 lbs, and its recomended that you keep them forwad facig until they reach the limit for the carset, whether its height or weight. Mine is 35 lbs and 40 inches. Its recomended because even when they are say 25 lbs they still dont have the best muscle control so if you are in a crash, their neck uscles can stretch and seperate their spinal cord. There was a case going across the moms on facebook about an 18 month old boy who was 35 lbs and in a forward facing, well over the 1 year/20lbs limit, yet in a crash his neck muscles stretched and his neck was broken, luckily he lived though.

Jamie - posted on 06/02/2010

My 2 kids both at 1 were short for the requirements but were fat compared to the weight requirements. At a year I traded out for FF carseat n Others I know whos kids were oppisite as mine did the same, Just make sure its properly adjusted n buckled in properly, Your local fire dept can help you with that if you are unsure, So can the police. Dont be afraid to ask for assistance, Its better they help you do it right or give you a ticket later or worse.My friends thought I was nuts for stopping at the fire dept n asking one of them to help properly install it n I have been the only one of my friends not get a ticket for being improperly installed. Hope this helps!!

Neva - posted on 06/02/2010

wow! Never in 8 yrs, 4 kids, have I been chastised for my opinion on a blog! thought that was the point of asking these questions, but Samara, obviously I have offended you, I have deleted my post and deleted my membership to this circle, see ya!

Ava - posted on 06/01/2010

Neva, your post is a little ridiculous. Just because you 'survived' without a rear facing carseat until you were 35 pounds doesn't mean every kid should go without it. The fact is, back when we were kids, there weren't as many cars on the street, or as many reckless drivers consequently, nor did cars go as fast or have as much horsepower behind them. The fact is, today's world is a dangerous world to be traveling in. Why would you risk your child's life to be 'part of the family' in a car? My daughter is a year old and doesn't mind being reversed at all, Either way, if we get into a collision, I'll sleep more soundly knowing she has a 70% less chance of sustaining life-changing injury in that crash. It's not like dirt or mud, where a mom can say 'Eh, it'll give them immunities. Why fret over it?'. This is life or death, lifelong paralysis or not, permanent retardation kind of shit we're talking about. It's something you're simply black-or-white protecting your kid with. A kid doesn't have to be in the front seat to be thrown through a windshield or have their spine snapped in half. A helmet may save a life or two, a rear-facing car-seat may save several THOUSAND. Get over it.

Ava - posted on 06/01/2010

Keep your child rear-facing until you literally can't find any car seat that will hold his/her weight that's rear facing. Could save their life.

Mellissa - posted on 06/01/2010

My car seat is also a Eddie Bauer, but its a 5in1. I believe it just says that its either 1 year or 23lbs. Now Iam going to go and check!

Faith - posted on 06/01/2010

I plan to keep my son RF for as long as possible, but be sure when you are looking at the car seats what the height limit is. My car seat is an Eddie Bauer convertible. While it does go up to 35lbs RF it only goes up to 36 inches, I'm hoping we find a taller car seat soon even though I really don't want to spend the hundreds of dollars they charge for a decent one. My husband says we'll turn him around once he hits 36 inches (he was 31.5 at 9 months). Anybody know a taller car seat?

Cindy - posted on 06/01/2010

One of the reasons I got our seat, the Snugride that I've posted earlier he's outgrown, is because it touted the longer time rear facing, but at the same time it didn't look like my child disappeared in the sheer vastness of it when he was very small. I wish more seats were like that, but that they went to a higher weight at the same time! That way I wouldn't be looking into a bigger seat now. I mean, it may not be a safety issue, but many of the convertible seats with the higher weight limit are so big it felt unsafe to be putting a small baby in it.

Katharine - posted on 06/01/2010

Indian style is cross legged - you know - like a pretzel. :)

Mellissa - posted on 06/01/2010

What is indian style?

Katharine - posted on 06/01/2010

Height really has nothing to do with turning forward facing. Children can remain rear facing with their legs up on the back of the seat or sitting indian style. This is, in fact, preferrable to turning around. Broken legs (which have never been reported with rear facing children) are much preferrable to broken necks - which is a concern with forward facing. You can get higher weight limits in a rear facing convertible seat - which will allow you to continue to rear face until at least 40 lbs. The bigger seats also have more leg room. Please check them out! Here is a website which will give you information on car seat safety.

http://www.kyledavidmiller.org/



ETA: I wanted to clarify that height of the child isn't the issue for RFing. But if the child is getting too tall for the SEAT then it must be changed. A child is too tall for the seat when they have only an inch left of the carseat's shell above their head.

Mellissa - posted on 06/01/2010

I agree with you! My daughter is 20.5 lbs and is not heavy enough in weight, but she sure is tall enough. Her legs are just about too tall, and are about to hit the back seat. I believe thats why they say 1 yrs or 23lbs. Not everybaby is the same height !

Mellissa

Mellissa - posted on 06/01/2010

Hi there, I was wondering what web site that was you were reading. Personally I have a daughter who is 11 months and 20.5lbs, and even though she is not the 23lbs they say they should be, she is almost too tall to face backwards anymore. Her legs are about to hit the seat and she will have to be turned around. I believe that is why they say 1 yrs or 23lbs. Iam not too sure about repidable web sites, but would like to know which one you were looking at?

Thanks, mellissa

Jennifer - posted on 05/31/2010

The Graco MyRide 65 is rear facing up to 40lbs. My lo is 11 mo and 22 lbs......he loves it and has plenty of room. Good luck!

Jessica - posted on 05/29/2010

I just wanted to add my two cents. My pedi has been saying that it is recommended that children sit rear facing until at least two. I have a big baby, he weighed 26.4 lbs and was 30 inches tall at his 9 month appointment. We started out with an infant car seat and switched to the convertible sometime around 5 months. I use the Sunshine Kids Radian XTSL which can be used to 45 lbs rear facing and 80 lbs forward facing. I'm perfectly content with his legs hitting the seat rather than being seriously injured if he were to be sitting forward facing. I plan on having him rear facing until 2.

Heather - posted on 05/29/2010

I am not sure of a website, but with many family members in law enforcement and emergency services (fire/ambulance) I can assure you the longer your baby stays REAR-facing the safer she is. The have seen MANY accidents! My son is 11 1/2 months 28 lbs and he will be staying in his rear-facing carseat until his legs are too swished by the back of the seat for him to stretch out! Hope that helps.

Mindy - posted on 05/28/2010

http://www.nhtsa.gov/

Melissa - posted on 05/28/2010

Our doctor told us that it is much safer to keep your child rear facing until they are 35 pounds. He believes it will become a law soon. Our baby is really tiny anyway and we want to keep him safe as long as possible. His birthday is in 2 weeks and he is only 18 pounds. So I imagine that he will be rear facing until he is about 12. We also have the Safety first Alpha Omega Elite and he love it facing backward because he can see better. The seat I got says it is rated for children 5 pounds to 100 pounds. That was the biggest range we could find so that we do not have to buy another one later on. Anyway- thanks for the information and posting the video.

Cindy - posted on 05/28/2010

By the way, we got the Snugride 32, which advertises, "help keep your little one rear facing longer." I guess they didn't account for children over the 97th percentile! :)

Cindy - posted on 05/28/2010

I'm probably going to turn him at a year, but I'm pretty certain he is at his weight limit on the seat, 35 pounds. He's a big boy, long and lean and looks like a two year old. It is a concern to me, but the straps are starting to be uncomfortably tight on him.

Samara - posted on 05/28/2010

Elizabeth. I have the safety first alpha omega car seat as well. I have a little compact car and have the hardest damn time getting that thing level. I called the manufat. and they said to use a pool noodle. They are like 5 bucks. Cut it a little longer then the bottom of the car seat maybe like an in on each side. And put it under the bottom closes to the back of the seat. Should work wonders!!! Try to buy one that doesn't have a hole in the center or one that has a small hole if they don't have the other. Other wise it will compress too much when u tighten the car seat. Also by leaving it a little longer it will help out the movement of side to side because it makes its on grooves in the noodle. I hope this helps you out!!

Leilani - posted on 05/27/2010

We have the Sunshine Kids Radian XTSL. It goes up to 45lbs RF (FF to 80lbs), which I think is the highest of all the carseats at this time. We bought it for that reason because we feel the longer we can RF, the better for baby.



Someone already mentioned that the laws are different in each state. That by no means is an indicator of 'best safety practice', but more of 'minimum safety requirement' as determined by each state's law. It's up to parents to do their own research. Looks like many here have done just that.

Elizabeth - posted on 05/27/2010

Oh, I have a question for those who also said they had the Safety 1st Omege Elite car seat. We have an Xterra and are having an extremely hard time getting the seat level. Any advice?

Elizabeth - posted on 05/27/2010

It's funny, my husband and I were just having this debate about rear facing or forward facing the car seat. Our daughter just turned 11 months old and has outgrown her infant car seat. We bought the Safety 1st Omega Elite, and as my husband was getting ready to install it, he asked if I wanted to go ahead and turn it around since she is almost 1 and he thought she'd be more comfortable. I told him no because I had also read that the longer a child stays rear facing the better, but I had no idea the extent of the damage could be if moved too soon. My son who will be 3 in August has been forward facing since abouth 15 or 16 months old, but that was because he was a tiny thing and didn't outgrow the infant car seat until the! Now I wish I could turn his seat around too! Thanks ladies for the info! I'm going to show my husband the video to so he can see how right I am ;o) lol

Brittany - posted on 05/26/2010

I just recently went to a car seat safety class hosted by the Florida Highway Patrol. I got a lot of wonderful information, because I had the same concerns you are having now. A lot of good answers as to why to keep your child RF as long as possible. 35 lbs is the "new" max weight for RF. I went to the class specifically to turn my son around on his first birthday, and soon realized why to leave them RF.
The purpose of a RF car seat is to cradle your child in the case of in accident. It is meant to come up with you child on impact and come back down with them. absorbing as much of the shock as possible. In a FF car seat, if you are in an accident, nothing is going to keep your child's head from flying forward and slamming back. Leading to who knows what kind of injuries. Your best bet would be to get a 5pt harness convertible car seat that will carry your child RF until up to 35 lbs, and then turn them around from between 50 to 60 lbs. This will keep your babe safe as long as possible, until a booster, then a seat belt can be used.
Good luck, hope this info will be helpful.

Caitlin - posted on 05/26/2010

After my daughter's one year check up, depending on her weight, I plan to have her forward facing. She is simply to long for a rear facing car seat and the other car seat we have simply does not fit in my vehicle when facing backwards.

Amy - posted on 05/26/2010

thank you very much for posting the video. Lacey's birthday is in 2 weeks and we were thinking about turning her seat around. Our doctor told us that the recommendation is 2 years of age or up to the weight of the car seat. I will keep her rear facing and crying than forward facing and hurt. That video changed my thoughts! I really appreciate you posting it. We actually had a child die in our area that was 5 months old while in a car crash... so anything can happen! Lets keep the little ones safe!

Donna - posted on 05/25/2010

I have heard from her doctor that there are three basic things to think about for them.... weight, age, development. weight is that they are up around the 30 lbs range, age for one year and walking unassisted. I haven't found any great websites for all that yet though.

Melody - posted on 05/25/2010

Before the new reccomendations, I turned my 1 yr. old (now 3 1/2) around front facing as soon as she was 20 lbs and over 1. I am so grateful that nothing happened! Now, looking at all the new research, I plan on keeping my 11 month old rf as long as possible. It's too late to turn my oldest around, otherwise, I would! You just have to go with the times, check the new research and recommendations constantly. A little time spent looking things up could save your baby's life! Rf is totally the way to go as long as possible! My grandmother talks about when there were no car seats and carrying her baby on her lap...but of course that was the norm back then! Would you do that now? Heck no! Then why turn your baby around front facing if there is new evidence it could be detrimental?! I know it's more fun to be able to see them better and reach them...but it's so not worth it!

And btw, mom's with older toddlers, check out www.iihs.org for the new recommendations on booster seats! You should make sure you have/get one that's safe...not all of them are!

Tanya - posted on 05/25/2010

Well, I have an 11 month old who is 30 inches and 22 pounds and about 4 months ago we bought a convertible carseat and installed it rear facing. That is where it is going to stay until 35 pounds if possible. I have a hard time with parents who are so blase about safety, although I do understand that it is a parent's choice for SOME things, like this issue. However, I do not understand how parents can let their children sit in the front seat or let them out of a booster too early. My almost nine year old and 80 pound daughter sits in a low back booster and my 6 1/2 year old sits in a high back booster. They will be in boosters until 100 pounds. My 6 1/2 year old is only 41 pounds and sometimes I am tempted to put her back in a convertable that goes up to 65 pounds like the one my baby is in.

Trincy - posted on 05/25/2010

I have read RF seats provide more safty during car crashes. It's proven that infants survive probability is really high when RF Vs FF. Most of them suggest to use RF seats as long as possible(yes even after the baby turns an year old). I don't remember reading otherwise on any site. But my in-laws were always complaining about it and were totally uncomfortable for keeping my son rear facing. My son has motion sickness and was sick within 10 minutes of a drive. He is 11 months and really tall. So we couldn't use the infant seat anymore. We tried seating him FF and he was still getting sick around the same time. To me RF/FF had nothing to do with his motion sickness. Safty is important to me and so i prefer to keep him rear facing as much as possible.

Brandy - posted on 05/25/2010

I have seen a lot of discussions on this lately, and the research that shows rear facing is safer & probably is for all of us. But, if you go looking for videos and discussions of what can happen in different scenarios, you could make yourself sick with worry. There are definitely pluses and minuses to many choices we make about our children and this is not exempt. Rear Facing for an extended period of time will help prevent spinal injuries in certain crash instances. Heck, we'd all be less likely to have whiplash if we had backward facing seats, but are we all going to do it? However, in many cars, rear facing children have no air conditioning blowing on them because cars aren't built that way. While it may seem minor, this is a pretty big deal down here in the south where the car may be well over 100 when you get in. Plus, motion sickness is much more of a problem rear facing. So, some parents feel the need to make the choice between every day problem with rear facing such as these and the much smaller chance of a major accident with major injury when forward facing. As long as children are securely fastened in car seats and seat belts, parents need to be able to make those choices on their own. Enough with more laws and extreme peer pressure/guilt trips on other parents. Just MHO.

Amanda - posted on 05/24/2010

this is always going to be a huge debate, no matter what the laws or rules are, or what is reccomended by drs and nurses or the carseat companies. i've seen videos of what could happen in car accidents if your child is front facing AND rear facing. When i had my daughter last june, i said i was going to keep her rear facing for as long as possible, because that was just what everyone had told me was "best," and who was i to say no I was a 1st time mom. So at 6 months old and weighing 22lbs, my daughter had outgrown her infant carseat. we found the one we wanted, i believe it is called the Graco ComfortSport. When we bought it from toy's r us, it was the 2nd safest carseat, #1 was a britax, which was nice, but for the money we felt there wasn't enough of a differance to justify spending that much. anyways we installed it rearfacing, and that worked great for us, until about a month ago her legs were already reaching the back of the seat, plus the way our backseat inclines it was hard for us to get the carseat at the right level, even when installed by a professional. So at 11mths we decided to try it front facing, and it fits so much better and she seems to enjoy it so much more, because she can see us and look around more, i know its not all about that, its about her safety aswell, and obviously that is more important, but after doing my OWN reasearch, i trust that she is still safe and i do not feel as if I am a bad parent for FF my child, I checked into it, and because she is only 2 weeks away from being 1 and is 25lbs, I am not breaking any laws and the guy that installed our carseat said alot of ppl FF their children once they are of age/weight and he has never seen any fatalites(where i live anyways) because of it. I believe it is each parents choice and what is going to work best for us and our children, while still protecting them of course.

Katharine - posted on 05/24/2010

RFing is safest. The statistics suppor that entirely. And now the AAP recommends 2 years old AND 35 lbs to turn around. Until recently it was 1 year old AND 20 lbs. These are only recommendations.

The LAW does not necessarily require 1 AND 20 or any other age and/or weight. There is not a federal car seat law. Each state is different. For instance, in SC the law is that children must be RFing until at least 1 year old and 20 lbs. In Kentucky however, the law requires only that children under 40 inches must be restrained in a safety seat (but not necessarily RFing). So if you are considering FFing your child, for whatever reason, please consult your states's laws to be sure you are in compliance. This website has a good summary of each state's law. http://www.iihs.org/laws/childrestraint....

Elizabeth - posted on 05/24/2010

We also use the Alpha Omega Safety First carseat, we bought it at 8 months because my daughter was over 30 inches and I was bashing her poor feet on things with the infant carrier (they stuck out, she was 23" at birth). I was originally going to go by the law until I did a little research for myself.

First of all, every state IS different. There is no federal car seat law. Where I live in SC, there are a number of exceptions, including a child feeding! Yes, in SC you can legally feed your child in your arms outside of the carseat. So for those saying the law is "and" not "or" that may be true for your state and not another's.

Second, go with your gut. I am keeping my daughter rear facing longer because we live in a rural area, so the speed limits are 45 MPH + on the majority of roads I drive on. There have been a number of increases in speed limits in many areas in the last few years, but little legislation for carseats, except to require kids in boosters. I don't doubt once enough cases occur and the research is done by state legislations, a 2 year 35 pound limit will be reached. On a more sinister note, I would be surprised if Graco fights that as it would undercut their infant carrier seats which are only good for the first year. But, newer convertible car seats out there give your child room.

I was one of those parents who thought I should turn her around, what's the worst that can happen? Plus, she was SO uncomfortable in the infant seat. Now that she is sitting up and the carseat is made for a child her size, not an infant, she loves going for car rides.

My advice? Leave your child rear facing as long as possible, it won't hurt anything. Buy a convertible car seat so you don't have to buy another carseat later on.

Hillary - posted on 05/24/2010

We have a convertible car seat for DS that is still RF. He is 11 months old. DH wanted to turn him around ,but I said no. He will probably stay rear facing until he is at least 2, and I know his seat will handle him that way. And I have a big boy, at close to 30 lbs and over 31". I know he is big for his age, but that doesn't mean he is developmentally.

Katrina - posted on 05/23/2010

http://www.elitecarseats.com/Sunshine-Ki...

Check out those carseats for anyone looking for a great seat that keeps your child rear-facing to a heavier weight/odler age. We are getting these here in New Zealand soon and I am looking forward to being able to turn my 3yo rf again and keep my nearly 1yo rf for years to come. Like others have said it's not so much about how heavy they are its more about how developed they are and that is something that can only come with age. Good on you Tonya for bringing up this topic. Education is the key :)

Samara - posted on 05/23/2010

I use the Safety first Alpha omega car seat. We went and bout it when she was 10 months old because she was 29 1/2 inches tall then and 20 lbs. I know she is prolly about 31 maybe even 32 by now, she has been growing about an 1 to 2 inches a month. And she has plenty of room in it. She is very comfortable looking in the car seat. Her legs do not go anywhere near the back of the seat because of the way the seat is made. It is a little hard to install in a small car, and its a pain in the butt to get it "level" but a pool noodle worked magic on it!!! I have a small compact car and it fits, a little tight but fits. She can stay in that one until she is 35 lbs rear facing, i believe 45 or 50 foward facing and then up to 100 with a belt positioning booster. It has execellent ratings for safety. And the seat itself is very padded and comfortable. I hope this helps!! Personally, I can handle broken legs. they are easily fixed, but not a broken spine, neck, paralyzation or death.

Don't watch the video, if things bother you. I worry too much being a mom, but I am thankful I watched the video. I was not expecting to see what I saw, nor was I aware of the serious affects of turning her facing foward. I was going to change her around and somehow came across the video and after crying the whole way through and having a nightmare (yes may seem a little stupid or childish) but i had a nightmare about it. I will not be turning her around after that.

Shelly - posted on 05/23/2010

I want to start by saying that I did not watch the video and probably will not watch it. There are enough things out there that worry me. I don't need another one. I appreciate everyone's passion about this topic. I was wondering what kind of car seat would be good for my daughter. She will be a year old in a few weeks and is already 31" tall. I wondered if anyone knew of a RF car seat brand or style that would be more comfortable for her. I don't want her to damage her spine but I don't want her to have broken legs either, if we're in an accident. To be honest, I was going to be switching to FF on her birthday, but now I am not sure. Any help that anyone could offer would be great.

Rachael - posted on 05/22/2010

I like these 2 sites. The first has all the links to the latest research.

http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/

http://www.childrestraints.co.nz/carseat...

Olivia - posted on 05/22/2010

Lectured? Seriously? I think everyone here has been informative and helpful - no-one has judged or lectured. If you choose to change to a forward facing car seat before it is RECOMMENDED and before it is safe, that's your choice. No need to jump down someone elses throat for giving you the facts.



Oh, and thank you for posting that video - I haven't seen that before, and honestly I was considering moving my nearly 11 month old pretty soon. Obviously I won't be now. Thanks for sharing.

Samara - posted on 05/22/2010

I was not trying to lecture just educate!! And Ashley, ur right its AND. not one or the other! I am so with you. I can handle broken legs, not a broken back, neck, paralyzation or the death of my child! As of right now, our car seat goes up to 35 lbs as well. I'm hoping that by the time she gets too big for that they will have another one out that holds more weight!!

Ashley - posted on 05/22/2010

Just so everyone knows the LAW is 1 year AND 20lbs not 1yr or 20lbs. My son is almost 11 months and he is already 27lbs still rear facing and his legs hang off the seat in the Cosco Scenera i would rather him have broken legs than a broken back or worse, he will be rear facing as long as possible (which unless they make seats that can fit into my car, graco myride was too big, he will only be able to rear face to 35lbs so im guessing around 1.5years but that is still better than forward facing him too soon)

Kim - posted on 05/22/2010

No one wants to be lectured, seriously.

Samara - posted on 05/21/2010

lol @ Jaclyn. Its drives me nuts how parents just shrug it off like they don't even care! Yes pediatricians are Doctors. but most do not stay up to date about things. It's obvious!! I'm sorry but i would have more guilt after seeing the video or even reading that there was a new recommendation to keep children RF as long as possible. How can you seriously read it and see it right in front of you what can happen and still turn them around!!! Not saying they are bad parents, but seriously! UGH!!! I just pray that nothing happens to those poor children if they happen to be in an accident. And you know, i have no idea why the U.S. has a weight recommendation, it has nothing to do with weight. Weight does not make their spine fuse together faster!!! Sorry guys, but I'm a nurse and I KNOW it doesnt fuse until they are atleast 3 or 4!!!

Jaclyn - posted on 05/21/2010

MOMS watch the damn video!