Are Riots Coming to America?

Jenni - posted on 08/16/2011 ( 21 moms have responded )

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We have all seen the damage caused by the riots in Britain. It was uninhibited anarchy and lawlessness. For five days, animal-like mobs burned businesses and homes, hospitalized police officers, looted shops, assaulted citizens, and even killed people.

It was a national disgrace.

And it is exactly what is coming to America—and soon.

In fact, the riots have already begun. Just days before the burning of London, a riot broke out at the Milwaukee State Fair. Yet, because of its racially charged nature, most media outlets buried the story.

As the sun went down at the end of the first day of the Wisconsin State Fair on August 5, it was as if the lights of civilization were temporarily snuffed out with it. According to the Journal Sentinel, the family-friendly event quickly descended into something out of tribal Afghanistan.

Eric, an Iraq war veteran, said that what he saw Thursday night compared to combat. “When I saw the amount of kids coming down the road, all I kept thinking was: There’s not enough cops to handle this. There is no way.”

“It would have taken the National Guard to control the number of kids that were coming off the road,” he said.

And those kids were violent.

Reports indicate that 300 to 400 young black youths began a “rampage” as they left the state fair. But it was a racially targeted rampage—with the mob pulling people out of cars and pillaging what they could grab, knocking people off bikes, beating pedestrians, and attacking the few onsite police officers.

“It looked like they were just going after white guys, white people,” said resident Norb Roffers. “We were just like cattle being herded out of the park, and they were picking and choosing who they wanted to beat on.” Roffers says his injuries are just limited to the headache he received after being hit in the head from behind with a traffic cone.

“It was 100 percent racial,” confirmed Eric. “As the mob ran through traffic, jumping on cars, they were looking through windows to see who they would attack.”

“It was like a scene out of a movie,” one witness said.

One white 15-year-old was knocked off his bicycle and surrounded by a mob who beat him unconscious. He was left lying in the street in the fetal position and then kicked and drop-kicked by other teenagers who happened to see him; finally other later-arriving teenagers threw his limp body into some bushes—as casually as someone might take out the trash.

“I don’t believe [last night’s events] are random,” said Mayor Tom Barrett. Perpetrators will be prosecuted regardless of race, he said, and more security would be provided to stop future occurrences.

But Milwaukee alderman Bob Donovan is not convinced. “There is a growing subculture in the city of Milwaukee and other large urban centers across the nation—largely young and African American lacking the shared values that you and I may take for granted,” he said. “To this subculture, there is no respect for authority. There is no value in marriage or raising a family. There is no value in receiving an education or getting and keeping a job. There is no value in passing on a legacy to the next generation.”

Being as outspoken as he is, Donovan is sure to make enemies—but who can deny the dangerous, degenerating condition of America’s welfare-dependent cities?

On August 4, a Philadelphia mother spanked her misbehaving child while on a city bus. Another passenger confronted her, threatening to call the child-abuse authorities. The mother turned away and made a cell phone call. Minutes later the mother and child walked off the bus while four members of her family walked up and opened fire on the bus with weapons, including a machine gun.

One month earlier, a mob of around 60 black teenagers beat and robbed a smaller group of white people at a fireworks exhibition in Milwaukee.

Philadelphia is under a curfew due to inner-city violence. Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter said: “You have damaged your own race. If you want … anybody else to respect you and not be afraid when they see you walking down the street, then leave the innocent people who are walking down the street minding their own d- - - business. Leave them alone.”

Now Kansas City is considering a curfew for teenagers too. Over the weekend, a shootout injured four people and forced Mayor Sly James to dive for cover and his bodyguards to pull their weapons.

America’s cities are exploding with violence. And here is the scary thing: The economic hard times haven’t even started yet.

Back in London, Prime Minister David Cameron said a “slow-motion moral collapse” was behind the rioting. “This must be a wake-up call for our country,” he said. “Social problems that have been festering for decades have exploded in our face.”

We have to have the “determination to confront” these issues he said. It is time to “fight back.”

Good luck with that.

Britain and America sit atop the largest welfare states in the history of the world. More people are on assistance programs than ever before. More teenagers live at home in government-provided housing, wearing government-purchased sneakers, drinking government-provided Mountain Dew, living with single mothers who grew up on government-subsidized housing themselves, than ever before.

More people rely on government for their daily bread in America and Britain than the entire population of Greece, multiple times over.

But here is the point: They all have their government-provided daily bread!

What will our cities look like when the social welfare and other government money handouts stop coming? And that is about to happen. Whether through deflation and debt collapse, or inflation and dollar value destruction, the Western world’s welfare state economic model is failing. Already, Greek-style austerity is looming over government budgets. Forced social spending cuts are coming.

And when they do, America’s cities will burn just as fiercely as Britain’s.

But economic collapse has a deeper cause. America’s and Britain’s welfare states are but an outgrowth of their moral state. The welfare system is an immoral system that harms both its users and abusers, and it is contributing to social breakdown and economic collapse. But it is only a symptom of the true cause.

As for politicians, you can almost guarantee that their solution to the riots will be to add additional government programs. If that happens, you can certainly guarantee that nothing is solved.

There is a cause for America’s and Britain’s social problems. There is a reason why thousands of unsupervised youth and teenagers feel they have the right to riot, steal, kill people, and burn our cities. And, to give David Cameron credit—it does get back to moral collapse.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=8554.7280.0...

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Barb - posted on 08/26/2011

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Hey NOW!!

Tah - posted on 08/26/2011

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Jennifer..not crazy..let's not go that far, and barbs right..she's not the yardstick by which to measure...lmbo..

Barb - posted on 08/26/2011

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LOL.. who says i'm not crazy?

Jenni - posted on 08/26/2011

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Wow Barb, that is exactly how I feel about it and what I suspected. I was beginning to think I was the only one and that I was inventing some conspiracy theory.

It all seemed extremely suspect to me, the way it was being protrayed in the media. What little it was being addressed in the media.

Good to know, I'm not crazy. ;)

Barb - posted on 08/26/2011

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They are getting ready to cut social programs. And it makes it much easier to swallow if it is presented as cutting funding for angry young black men instead of cutting funding for food for children or care for the elderly or mentally handicapped. It's not "Christian" to do that.



Also, if they make it about race instead of poverty, it divides the two so they won't unite and try to collectively make a change.



Need to keep the poor uneducated so they won't know how bad they are getting screwed.

I watched "Blindside" yesterday. There was a scene where Micheal Oher was getting ready to leave his biology class and the teacher told him to take the text book with him. It reminded me of what Tah said about not being able to take text books home.



Really not sure what the rich expect when funding is constantly cut for education. How do they expect people to learn about empathy when they aren't shown it? How are they expected to learn about compassion, fairness, and respect if the poor are never shown it? How are they suppose to have "christian values" when the "christians" in charge don't?

Michelle - posted on 08/23/2011

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And look at what happened at Candlestick park a few days ago. But race riots are nothing new...hell, look at Chicago in the late 60s.
I think that riots have less to do with 'moral collapse' than they do frustration and fear--over the economy and survival.

Tah - posted on 08/17/2011

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okay so ive been thinking about this....and there are a few things...i thnk this is going to do nothing for relations between whites and blacks...i saw one comment on a link talking about getting a gun because basically blacks are out of control and it makes me nervous for my sons, nephews, brothers and all those who are just walking down the street and don't care to attack you or steal your purse. It is a systematic failure of the poor. Not just blacks, but all poor. I can turn on MTV and see little white girls for the majority on Teen moms and cussing their moms out, calling them bitches, having no respect for authority and fighting with deadbeat "baby daddies"(hate that term). I can then turn to Bravo and see the same thing with non-blacks, and some of those girls are not poor.



Now, i remember watching the news when these kids were first flash mobbing and i saw white kids as well, so to try to say it's minorities is not the answer. Now, the black youth involved are not helping at all with this behavior because when things like this happen, no matter what happens we will be seen in the worse light because so many people already have a pre-conceived notion of us..how do i know this...



"But Milwaukee alderman Bob Donovan is not convinced. “There is a growing subculture in the city of Milwaukee and other large urban centers across the nation—largely young and African American lacking the shared values that you and I may take for granted,” he said. “To this subculture, there is no respect for authority. There is no value in marriage or raising a family. There is no value in receiving an education or getting and keeping a job. There is no value in passing on a legacy to the next generation.”



when i read this statement it sounded eerily familiar to statments made by many of those way back in the 30's, 40's 50's and 60's when Black america was being systematically disenfranchised. Being forced to live in certain sections of the city in broken down housing but made to pay full price, not being allowed to vote or join home owners associations etc. It sounded so much like it i almost expected to see it read KKK member 1954 behind it..but it goes to show that people have these feelings and this is just he thing they need to let them be known publicly..when it's far from the truth.



there have been studies that showed more whites were on welfare than blacks..i haven't checked it awhile it may be different now, but we were always the poster children for welfare, violence and lawlessness. So i talked to mom, because we are from Philly and she said that whats in place is that a a curfew starting at a certain time at night and also on the weekends, if you aren't of age and are caught on south street, etc places where people gather for the nightlife etc..and can't prove you are there for work or some great reason, they will take you in, the first time, your parents pick you up for free,after that you go to CPS and your parents are fined. I agree, it will teach the parents to be responsible for their children, where they are and what they are doing.

Jenni - posted on 08/17/2011

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Yup, I think I was just having trouble thinking outside my box. And I agree with you it's an issue of systematically failing the poor.

Rosie - posted on 08/17/2011

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my city is about the same size. we do have clear areas of poor black and white though here. it is compromised of people that have moved here from chicago-it's also where most of the problem with crime are here.

it's really interesting how once again the violence is all leading back to bigger inner city people. cause the people that have lived here all their life just don't act the same way. it's just got to be horrible in the bigger inner cities here in the USA. why it is that way is a systematic failure of the poor. i don't see any other reason why.

Jenni - posted on 08/17/2011

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That makes sense to me. That larger cities would experience it more. I live right across the river from Detroit, MI. There is definitely a lot of racial tension over there. And many white and black people are openly racist. Which is a bit of a culture shock to me. My county has a large population of blacks (as like Detroit we were the end of the Underground Railroad where many black families settled) but here it's like you described where you live (minus the swastika's). Mind you, my city is only 200 000 people.



It's not as segregated like Detroit. There's no 'black areas' or 'white areas'. There's a pretty equal amount of poor white people and poor black people (based on the population) and rich white people and rich black people. And of course middle class.



Maybe that's why I'm having hard time wraping my head around this and why I asked that question.

Because I agree with you, they are trying to keep it hushed so it doesn't 'catch on'. I was just wondering if playing up (if that's what they're trying to do) the racial aspect of it was also meant to deter people from joining in.

Does that make more sense?

Rosie - posted on 08/17/2011

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you know, in some places i think you can say that. take where i live-iowa. sure you'll find racist scumbags around-i had a guy with a swastika tattooed on his neck come through my line today at work. but overall, i see sooooooo many white and black people together, friends, couples, coworkers, neighbors, living in harmony. there are so many mixed children around it's very common to see here.
now in places like bigger inner city- i would suspect that there's much more vitriol and distain towards blacks. and that's where these "riots' are taking place.

i guess i am confused a little by the last question of yours. do you think that the media is downplaying this or playing it too much? honestly, i think they are trying to keep it hush hush so as to not start anything else. i havn't heard any of this around my neck of the woods, nothing on the news-anything. so i honestly don't know how "big" or widespread all of this is. so it may be just something that a few news stations mentioned in the area, have reported on. IDK.

Lissa - posted on 08/17/2011

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Maybe my view is simplistic but I think it's more a case of blame culture than anything else. People want there to be an explainable acceptable reason for things. Nobody wants to accept that as a society we are pretty fucked up. People want to believe things are someone elses fault, so whether it's unemployed,youth,whites,blacks,asians,immigrants,the racists etc they want to find an "acceptable, explainable" reason. Nobody wants to say a fair portion of our "community" saw an excuse to riot so they did, they thought they would get away with, thought it might be a fun night out or they would get goods.
As I have said already I think it's a general lack of empathy and attatchment to our communities not by any one group but by all.

Jenni - posted on 08/17/2011

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Maybe, I'm just being niave.
I guess I just want to think there's more to this. I'm not really familar with the racial tension in the US.

Maybe, I very niavely thought we've grown past a lot of it. Or at least past the point of lynch mobbing each other.

There's obviously some truth to the racial aspect of it. That's undeniable.
I guess I'm just asking how much of it is real and how much is media-hyped?

Rosie - posted on 08/17/2011

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you know jennifer, i saw those, and i gotta say they are WAAAAAAAY less degrading than any other article i've seen that mentions race. most of the time the "n" word is thrown around like nothing, blaming every black man for the country's ailments.
at least some of these people are trying to address the subject somewhat rationally. but of course everytime someone brings up the subject of race, theyre racist automatically which irritates me to no end.

Jenni - posted on 08/17/2011

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Take this article on it for example and the responses it has received from other posters:



http://www.circleofmoms.com/debating-mum...



It just seems like a bit of clusterfuck (pardon me) to me. Like they're trying to ignite rage towards the black community. I'm just having a hard time buying it all, there just seems to be an agenda behind how it's being covered.



Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

Jenni - posted on 08/17/2011

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To be honest Tah, I suspect there is much smokescreen around this. They are attributing these 'mob' gatherings to black *youths*, I've heard it's not just youths. It is the same way they are covering the riots in the UK. Blaming youths for it when all age groups are involved.



Adding a racist aspect to it, claiming only youths are involved, calling them 'mobs' rather than riots, and not giving these gatherings much news coverage... I believe is an attempt to discourage others from joining in. I suspect they are trying to snuff out the flames before it becomes a forest fire.



I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why it's almost exclusively black males attacking whites is more to do with socio-economic class than racisim.

Tah - posted on 08/16/2011

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I'm confused...is this about social and economical decline or how blacks have no morals, family values etc...

Jenni - posted on 08/16/2011

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The Wincosin Fair 'riot' was similarly being protayed, if not overwhelming, to be 'youth'.

I wonder if they're keeping it hushed, along with other 'mob' gatherings in the US to keep it from getting out of control. Also why I believe they're attatching the term 'mob' instead of 'riots'.

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/08/16/flash...

Lissa - posted on 08/16/2011

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One thing that I think has been overstated is who was rioting, all people are hearing about is the lawless kids. In actual fact only 21% overall were under 18 and those arrested (2700 so far) range from 11 year old school kids to a support teacher, an airport work, a woman who had given birth 6 weeks prior. There were people of all different backgrounds and races involved, men,women,children yet it's being portrayed as the disaffected youth wanting people to listen to them. Really stealing a tv , burning local family shops down etc is not about making a statement. I for those who said they got carried away in the moment, what a load of shit, you stole etc because you thought you wouldn't get caught. I have zero sympathy for every person involved and huge props for the families and friends that are reporting the people they know to the police after seeing them on TV footage.
I have absolute respect for anyone who wants to protest, it is a right everyone should have but none of this was about protest it was just thuggery. The courts are giving bail to very few, even the Mum of the 6 week old baby was remanded in custody.
The police were screwed because if they had gone in heavy they would have been crucified as has happened before but they were crucified anyway because they held back and basically just tried to contain it.
I do agree it does come down to society, people do not feel morally connected to their communities, they have no sense of social responsibility but it isn't just the young.

Jenn - posted on 08/16/2011

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Noooo, there won't be any rioting here anytime soon either. The closest we have come to a mob was the rush to the new In and Out Burger on 7th :)

Rosie - posted on 08/16/2011

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i thought the article sounded a little too preachy to me, and of course it's put out by a church.

i don't doubt that there's civil unrest amongst many people, and i do think that there is some sort of feeling of entitlement and disrespect from SOME people on welfare. and yes alot of those are minorities, but that is a systematic problem-not a problem with welfare itself.

you're a black person you can't get a job cause your name is shaniqua, or you have many people who's fathers are in jail for drug offenses, leaving them with a broken family unit-meaning more people who need help from the government. i could go on and on about what is wrong with people on welfare and it has nothing to do with them needing to be on welfare.



as for riots coming. i don't think there will be a huge riot here anytime soon. maybe i'm naive, but in my merry middle spot in america-there isn't much to riot about.