Holiday for white people proposed

Tah - posted on 02/04/2012 ( 20 moms have responded )

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What's up with Arizona?



After a Latino state legislator proposed a Latino American Day, lawmaker Cecil Ash stepped up before the legislature to suggest a holiday for white people. Seriously.



This is, after all, the land of S.B. 1070, the contentious and draconian immigration enforcement bill that has been mired in legal deadlock since it was signed into law by Gov. Jan Brewer (R) in 2010. The legislation, considered the strictest of its kind when it was passed, is to be ruled upon by the Supreme Court later this year.



It's also home to Russell Pearce, the former Republican state senator credited with laying down the framework for the state's controversial immigration law.



And who can forget the ever-graceful Brewer, stateswoman and author, wagging her finger dismissively in the face of President Obama at an airport in Phoenix last month?



And the swashbuckling Sheriff Joe Arpaio lives there, too. He proclaimed himself "America's Toughest Sheriff," and now finds himself ensnared in a U.S. Justice Department investigation accusing his department of racially profiling Latinos, basing immigration enforcement on racially charged citizen complaints and punishing Hispanic jail inmates for speaking Spanish.



Enter Cecil Ash, a Republican from Mesa, who feels that what Arizona needs now is an official holiday for white folks.



The idea apparently came to Ash after state Rep. Richard Miranda proposed a Latino American Day. "I wanted to speak to you all about Latino Americans here in Arizona," Miranda said on the House floor Monday.



After some debate, Ash stepped forward with his grand idea.



"I'm supportive of this proposition and I think it's well deserved," he said. "I just want them to assure me that when we do become in the minority you'll have a day for us."



There was laughter on the House floor. On CBS 5 News, reporter Elizabeth Erwin introduced her story on the latest state controversy saying, "You can't make this stuff up." No you can't.



On the street, a random woman in a baseball cap said Ash's proposal made sense. Of course. "Like they have Cinco de Mayo for Mexicans," she told CBS 5 News, "we need something for whites." Only in Arizona.



Ash, for his part, wasn't backing down.



"I think it was appropriate," he told the station, referring to his proposed holiday. "It was appropriate for the mood that was in the House and I think that if and when the Caucasian population becomes a minority, they may want to celebrate the accomplishments and the contributions of the Caucasian population the same way."



Maybe Ash is onto something. Consider the talk of a Caucasian history month on the social networking site Tumblr. For real. No joke.





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Jane - posted on 02/04/2012

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The reason why there is no "white history month" is that prior to the creation of Black History Month, every single month was white history month. Text books spoke only of the doings of whites, mostly white males, literature classes studied the works of dead white men, and people of color were wiped off the face of the past.



The same goes for holidays. Every holiday in the past was a white holiday. Every parade in the past was a white parade celebrating white family values. In fact, just about everything in the past of this country belonged to heterosexual white people, including black people.



Remember that Arizona is one of the states that refused to have a Martin Luther King holiday. I used to live there and I found that the midwesterners that inhabited Tucson were intolerant of many things, including Jews, Unitarians, uppity women, fat people, and people who wore bright colors.



The Black population of Arizona is 4.1% and The Hispanic population is 29.6%, for a total of 34% of the population of the state being non-white. The whites represent 73% of the population. Black and Hispanics make up 55.5% of prison population in Arizona. What is wrong with this picture?



As Richard Pryor once said: "I went to penitentiary one time, not me personally, but me and Gene went there for a movie. "Arizona State Penitentiary" Population: 80 percent black people. But there are no black people in Arizona, they have to bus motherfuckers in!"



On prison. Live At the Sunset Strip (1982)





http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/...

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Isobel - posted on 02/04/2012

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Jan Brewer belongs in jail, I hate the air that she breaths, her rhetoric is going to get people killed one day. she is a liar and a cheat. That is all.

Barb - posted on 02/24/2012

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"I'll teach my children the history of the world, just as I have learned.."



That is just it, the history of the world leaves out anyone who isn't a white man. Why the hell does Jesus look so damn European when he was born in the Middle east? Oh, because the bible illustrations were created by the white man so obviously Jesus looked like them. People aren't going to worship a guy who probably looked more like Osama Bin Laden and lived like him too, homeless.



It isn't about celebrating their hardships or giving them more attention because they have gone through so much. It's about resurrecting their own history so there is validation, pride, a sense of self awareness and ownership from their past.



Here is a perfect example. Kareem Abdul Jabbar was born Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr. Here is a quote as to why he not only changed his name but converted to Islam. "Speaking about the thinking behind his change of name when he converted to Islam he said to Playboy that he was "latching on to something that was part of my heritage, because many of the slaves who were brought here were Muslims. My family was brought to America by a French planter named Alcindor, who came here from Trinidad in the 18th century. My people were Yoruba, and their culture survived slavery (...) My father found out about that when I was a kid, and it gave me all I needed to know that, hey, I was somebody, even if nobody else knew about it. When I was a kid, no one would believe anything positive that you could say about black people. And that's a terrible burden on black people, because they don't have an accurate idea of their history, which has been either suppressed or distorted."



One thing i do agree with, is that black history month needs to be longer than one month, and the shortest month at that, a year.



History isn't accurate, it is only written by the victors. Sometimes the other side is the better story.

Barb - posted on 02/22/2012

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oh jeeze! White history time is every other second that isn't any other ethnic history time.



You know, i grew up southern california. Went to grade and middle school there. I did not realize or learn that California belonged to Mexico only a few generations before mine. That is why so many Latino's live there, it belongs to them and the white men invaded and squashed their history replacing it with their own and teaching it to their children.



Can you imagine? Let's say the Canadians took over, invaded the U.S. (you know you want to) and removed Christopher Columbus, All of the presidents, now we have a prime minister, the eastern seaboard has to learn french for no apparent reason, and how the west was won would be rewritten to start history when the Canadians Conquered the Country! After living under Canadian rule for so long you wouldn't want to celebrate your heritage?



I saw a movie on PBS. I'm sorry, i can't recall the name of it right now. But it was about Tulsa Oklahoma where the most prominent businessmen of the city were black men. Something happened, i believe jealousy and hate, and riots broke out. The white men surrounded the business district and burned it to the ground then passed laws legally segregating black men and women into slums like Hitler did the Jews.



And look how well our own history does of teaching us what we did to the Americans of Japanese descent during WWII?



Sure, let's have a white history month.. let's have a white history month of how the whites destroyed other cultures to the point of nonrecognition and that is why they have special events and days.

Stifler's - posted on 02/14/2012

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I agree that 99% is white history. We barely learnt anything about aboriginal history at school only in NAIDOC week where we all got to sample crocodile. It was a big joke to everyone and getting out of work because we had NO idea what it was actually about.

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Laura - posted on 11/21/2012

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A holiday for White people that's the craziest thing I have ever read its stupid. Holidays are not based on a persons color that makes no sense, to have a holiday for the color of someones skin. I can't wrap my head around this it just makes me angry and frustrated.

Barb - posted on 02/26/2012

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Actually, I would love to see a "woman's month" although I can only imagine the jokes about it now.



My dear friend Amy suggested a couple of books to help with a project i was working on. And I also highly recommend them. They are called; "The daring book for girls". And "The double daring book for girls" I ended up buying them and sending them off as presents to my niece I loved them so much. They are full of not just information that girls should know, but also fantastic stories of courageous women who did amazing things. And not just First lady Roosevelt and Amelia Earhart. but also Queen Zenobia, Bullfighter Cristina Sanchez De Pablos. Artemisia, a whole section on inventors and scientists, etc etc. Reading them gave me a sense of confidence, pride, and encouragement that I could accomplish great things if I put my mind to it.



Reading them also reminded me of how much women's history is left out. Sure we hear about Madame Curie, but we know most of the names on the declaration of independence and struggle to think of one woman in the woman's suffrage movement.



I feel this way for women as well as I do for cultural minorities, that it seems to me the white man is afraid to celebrate successes, that anyone but them do.



Like that Tulsa incident, called Black WallStreet, we can't let them know they can be successful, then they might be and do to us what we have been doing to them.

Melissa - posted on 02/25/2012

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Well I do agree with you on how history is written, but that's why I think public schools are one of the worst institutions out there, because they don't teach properly. We'll be home schooling and teaching our children REAL history and REAL life lessons. As far as what should be celebrated and what shouldn't, everyone has their own opinions, but I stand by my belief that it's counter productive to praise individual groups of people for things they personally did not go through. We all experience discrimination at some point in life, we all have ancestral sob stories, we all have our own tails of woe. Maybe some more than others, but picking people out and high-fiving them for that isn't really the answer. The answer is spreading equality awareness for every sector of person and encouraging acceptance and appreciation. Enforcing a "holiday for white people" or "black history month", to me, is completely backwards and all around thoughtless. Shall we also have a "gay" month? A "womans" month? A "bi-polar disorder" month? Because through out history people of those groups have experienced unthinkable hardships as well ...

Melissa - posted on 02/23/2012

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I just have to say, I don't have much experience with cultural "differences" or racial issues - in my life people have just always been people. And yes I understand how cliche that sounds, but it is how it is. I understand that African American's went through a hell of a lot with slavery. It was absolutely terrible and never EVER should have happened. I understand that Jews went through a hell of a lot with the Holocaust, the stories and pictures and everything there is to see of what occured it just unbelievable and heartbreaking to me. But really, if you look into the background of any culture or religion or race or whatever have you, we ALL come from a LONG line of hardships. Women, for instance, used to be locked up in mental institutions at the discretion of their husbands for things as simple as a woman speaking against her husband over an affair; taken away from their family, friends, and especially their children. They were told they were mentally insane because they expected their husbands to be faithful. The Irish were taken to Sweden as slaves during the days of the Roman Empire; people were beaten, starved, people watched on helplessly as their loved ones were murdered before their very eyes and then told to get back to work. Religious leaders used to whip people until the skin on their backs was torn and tattered and their blood spattered acrossed the walls. Why do we need to recognize people for hardships? Why do we need to recognize individual cultures, colors, genders, whatever have you, because of hardships? Why, as a society, do we feel such an incredible need to dwell on the negative things as opposed to appreciating the good? We've been fighting for equality for how many years now? But it's the things like having a specific month for a specific race or sexual orientation that keeps us all segregated to an extent. We are all people, we all share this world, we are all equals. Again, maybe my personal opinion on the matter stems from not having experienced much in my life as far as seeing inequality or unfairness towards any given group (other than homosexuals, unfortunately), but that's just my take on it. I'll teach my children the history of the world, just as I have learned, but they'll also be taught that every person is to be treated with the same respect they would expect in return. I don't believe that Jewish people deserve any special treatement for the history of "their people", I don't believe that African America people deserve any special treatment for the history of "their people", and I certainly don't believe that I should deserve any special treatment for the history of "my people".

Isobel - posted on 02/14/2012

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Cancel St Patty's day...no green beer for you.



If minorities were covered fairly on a regular basis there would be no need to make a special occasions set aside to learn about their valuable contributions. The sad fact is that they are not covered fairly on a regular basis and if nobody sets up a day to learn, we don't learn.

Billie - posted on 02/13/2012

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If someone can propose a holiday for latinos, why is it wrong to propose one for white people? I understand they are for heritage reasons, otherwise I would do away with all the holidays aimed at a specific race. People say white people don't deserve white holidays because we already have too many, but what they fail to realize the only real white holiday is thanksgiving. Christmas, easter, etc are CHRISTIAN holidays, not white holidays.

Jenni - posted on 02/09/2012

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I think as others have said, white history is taught 99% of the time already. I think it's important to teach about all large groups races and ethnicities that make up our communities and countries. How they arrived to our country, what contributions they've made. I don't need a special "white" day because I'm not a minority. Attention is naturally paid to my race.



And I really don't *get* this: "Oh poor me. I'm white and now all these minorities get special treatment over me." I think that it's more that more attention needs to be paid to minorities so that they're not swept under the rug or drowned out by the majority.



Anyways, I think it's pretty sweet that I live right at the end of the Underground Raiload. My area has awesome history. From the War of 1812, the Underground Railway safe spot, prohibition and Canadian Club Whiskey. Many black inventors were from the town I grew up in.



I also find that our public school history is very balanced. We covered so many different races and ethnicities of Canada. From the early Chinese settlers out west who helped build the Pacific railroad, the Metis, the French settlers, the Underground railroad, the holocaust, Native history, Irish Canadians, Scottish Canadians, Italian Canadians. All of our histories and how we all contributed in becoming the Canada we have today.

Tah - posted on 02/09/2012

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With all of the contributions black people made a paragraph here and there on harriet tubman and eli whitney is all we get. We learned much more about George washinton then we ever would about George Washington Carver There is a difference that is why there are classes devoted to it. Trust me the information you get there is very much more in-depth and gives a full picture. Everone has a history.

Lacye - posted on 02/08/2012

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I'm a little confused about something you said Tah. When I was in high school, even if it wasn't Black History month, we learned about not just "white history", we also learned about "black history". It's all one and the same. History is just history. Are minorities overlooked, hell yes. But where I'm from, white people are the minority and they are the ones that are mostly overlooked. In Arizona, yes there are more whites than blacks but that is why they are the ones who are jumping on this. In their own way, they are ignorant. And let's face it, we just have to overlook ignorance sometimes. It probably won't get passed anyways.

Tah - posted on 02/04/2012

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affirmative action is because qualified black people and minorities were/are consistently passed over for jobs they are qualified for. Some can't get in the door because their names are too ethnic. That is one of the reasons companies are offered incentives to fill some positions with minorites, if not for these things some companies wouldn't have minorities doing anything but emptying their trash. It's funny with the name thing. i was on a wait list last night in a restaurant with my family. When they called the name Tasha, the manager came up to me and told me my table for Tasha was ready..past everyone else...which were mostly white..lol...No sorry, we are under Ryan...lol...

Denikka - posted on 02/04/2012

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Tah, that's why I said I would like to see it integrated into the regular lessons :)

I don't think it should be a specific time frame in which we appreciate the contributions that certain black figures (or latin or asian or whatever), but that it should be year long. Teach about ALL the contributors for a time frame.



I know I've heard stories of things in the workplace (I don't/haven't worked so it's second hand), things like white people being turned down for a job because the company didn't meet their quota of *visible minorities* to avoid accusations of racism/discrimination. (Same applies with male to female ratios). Which I think is ridiculous. If you're qualified, or more qualified, you should get the job. If you've contributed to history, you should get recognized. Race, gender and sexuality should not play into it at all.

Tah - posted on 02/04/2012

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The problem is that minorities aren't treated equally, by a long shot. If it wasn't for the months and holidays set aside then many americans would have no idea of the contributions made by minorities because it's not taught in public schools. You would be surprised what people don't know about how this country was forged and on whose backs. So i do think that minorities need their time so that people can recognize their contributions. In a perfect world we wouldn't need it, but the world isn't perfect.

Denikka - posted on 02/04/2012

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You know, I kinda agree. Maybe not with the reasoning, but with the principle.

I would rather see them do away with all race/difference themed holidays and celebrations. I think it calls attention to those differences and instead of uniting us a *human beings* it still segregates us into race or sexuality or whatever.

It's like minorities want to be treated equally, but special. Gay pride parades are a big thing. It would not surprise me to eventually see something like a poly-amorous pride parade going on. But a straight pride parade would be looked down on.

There's black history month, but no white history month.



I believe it's just another form of segregation and it bothers me. I won't teach my child to be color blind, because the history of cultures is important. But I will teach them that race doesn't matter. You should not get special treatment. good or bad, based on race, sexuality, gender or anything else.

If you want to celebrate the holidays of your country, that's awesome! Knowing and appreciating your culture is important. Cinco de Mayo is fine. Something like Black History month....meh..not so awesome in my books. I see no reason why they can't integrate that history and those figures in with the rest of history class.

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