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Tah - posted on 07/03/2011 ( 92 moms have responded )

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some people say that minorities look for racism in everything. here's an example that happened to me yesterday..the DON(director of nursing) text me friday evening and asked me to work saturday and that they really needed me, since i am trying to get my sister a job on my unit, i felt it would reflect well if i said Sure instead of HAHAHA..tough..LMBO....so i said sure. well i stopped in 7-11 yesterday morning on the way to work to grab a huge container of fruit, 2 huge bottles of water(and a snickers..im pmsing..what of it)..well i get to the counter, wait for the beautiful white woman in front of me to pay..the cashier(an older white woman) says "credit or debit miss??" with her nicest grandmom smile..when i get there, she rings me up, i also have a debit card in my hand, the front is facing me, she says "your total is 7.39, will that be EBT??"" now for those who don't EBT is the food stamp card. I was taken back because i am in stores every flipping day of my life almost...gas station, NEX, commissary, etc..and people always ask credit or debit? or how will you be paying?? but noone has ever just stared at me with a look of UUGGHH on her face(mind you i am in scrubs with a badge with NURSE on it and 5 pens, bandage sheers and 2 permanent markers attached to it on my neck) and asked me if i was paying with food stamps...



Do you think that was racist?? if not, why didn't she say that to the woman in front of me??why did she get a Credit or debit??" and i get no smile or greeting and an assumption i am on welfare??



Now i am not knocking anyone thats on it. i was on it once as a single mom, they gave me pennies because i worked so once i graduated that school and made another few bucks an hour it was "too much"...so don't think this is a dig at that, the ay my son eats i would welcome it..



so do you think that is true, that minorities look for racism in everything???



i don't ever look for it, it seems to find me...but sometimes im wondering if something was intended to be that or not and as a minority i have to think in ways that others dont.



would you agree or disagree in that??



do you think that minority children have to be taught to recognize racism and other things that others don't???

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Isobel - posted on 07/03/2011

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I think all people use stereotypes. It's a part of our psychological make up. Anybody (black OR white) who says that they don't is lying, either to you or themselves.

If I tell you that women don't tip as well as men...is that sexist? kinda' but in my many years as a waitress, it was generally the case.

Is it possible that a large amount of the African American population in that neighbourhood is on food stamps? I know that unfortunately the black community is often hit hardest in regards to poverty level.

and yes...there are people out there who think that all white people are racist because they have come across so many assholes that are. It's another form of racism or stereotyping.

Like I said...everybody on the planet does it. It's impossible not to.

Rosie - posted on 07/09/2011

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bad business or racism? i just simply don't see how someone automatically has to jump to that conclusion.

you're playing semantics with the possibly/will put someones hackles up. you know what i mean. i've been treated like shit by EVERY man that i've been in a relationship with, or tried to have a relationship with. i am wary of men, but do i automatically assume that every man i try to date is going to beat me, or treat me like shit? no, i go in giving the person a chance, still reserved, yes, but open minded. that's all i'm saying.

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When I walk into a place..like a make-up store, or target..ect I do expect to be judged..some of the time



I was at target (one of my fave stores) I pulled out a twenty to pay, the White cashier lady held it up to the light to make sure its real( I thought odd they usually do that with bigger bills..thinking well maybe she didn’t have that special marker,

a good looking couple white couple stood behind me waiting in line

As I am walking a way I turn to see if the cashier checks the women’s twenty dollar bill and she does not…she smiles and rings her up..so how should I have taken that??

Judgmental? Racist? Both…I got plenty stories…how much time do you have??



My “Assumptions” come from personal experience (happning to me)…while the assumptions/ stereotypes of most blacks by non blacks come from stories or tv



Being racist and judgmental are different, but there is a fine line..I do not assume every non-black person I come into contact with racist, but I do think that in a certain setting they pass judgments..even about me being on EBT

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Tah, I think the situation you described is an example of a judgement based on your color. I do probably make this assertion a little easier than some, since you are in VA, where I know from experience that racism is alive and well.

Do I also think that there are some minorities that are quick to play the "race card" where no hint of racism is involved? Yep, that happens all too often as well.

Neither group is right in making race an issue where it doesn't need to be one. All it does is continue to perpetuate the divide between all peoples of various skin colors.

As for whether or not minority children need to be taught to "look" for racism....I think they should not be taught so much to look for it, as to be aware that it still exists. THe sad truth is, as Laura pointed out, we all, on some level, make some prejudgments based on physical appearance. Skin color is just one of many attributes that others use to form an opinion of those they don't know. I think it's important for all of us to teach our children that golden adage of "not judging a book by it's cover", as well as to not let those that do bring us down to their level.

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When I was learning my colors I embarrassed the heck out of my mom. Going through the store I asked, "What color is she?" referring to their shirt...but I'm sure you can imagine what people must have thought! And frankly, I wouldn't blame anyone for being taken aback by a 2 year old asking that question.

To answer you question, I think that SOMEtimes people will look for racism were it doesn't exist. An example: there is a mayor here in LA being prosecuted for mis-use of funds. He claims to be targeted because he's black. No son, you did something wrong. It has nothing to do with your race.

Tah, in your situation, you are obviously being treated differently. Was it because of your race? Perhaps. Were you wrong to assume so? NO. There is a long history of racism, and I'm positive you've felt the affects of it. So no one can blame you for that.

Do I think minority children should be taught to look for racism? Hmmm...as a white woman, this is hard to answer. I think that they should be taught to not 'pull the race card' at the drop of a hat, but to be aware that SOME people out there are racist. You can't protect your children from the world, but you can prepare them for what they will face.

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Tah - posted on 07/14/2011

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Exactly Barb..I've gotten sucked in and can't stop shaking my head..my son said "mommy, are you mad at me??"... No rylan, why do you say that?? "cause you're shaking your head no no no"...I'm so sorry baby, I didn't realize my head was still moving...lmbo...

Barb - posted on 07/14/2011

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We do Vicki, it is under "is it fair?" Loureen good to see you!

I read to page 5 on that link you posted in political debates but had to stop because my eyes were bleeding..

It's like the OPer didn't read/comprehend any information that didn't support her agenda/theory.

I am also curious about how the Aussie's feel about the burka law, if i get time i'll go over and read it.

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thnaks. yeah not on DM but am curious to read the thread. I know we had something around somewhere that I'm on. ebby?

Charlie - posted on 07/13/2011

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I think it is in the other debating group where several fellow Aussies have replied :)

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isn't that post about australia here or was it another group? the other racist one. would love to hear an aussies point of view. am I mixing up stuff? ooh I remember...muslim women and hijabs I believe and needing to show face to cops. was that here?

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 07/13/2011

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oh wow!!!!!! yay! I was right...but your pic gave it away..(you cant forget a cute baby boy as yours!)

Charlie - posted on 07/13/2011

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yep , hey you got closer to spelling my name right than people I have known for ages LOL

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 07/13/2011

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Loreen is that you??
(sorry if i spelled your name wrong)

Charlie - posted on 07/13/2011

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Sorry I read it wrong I haven't had my morning coffee 0_o ....yeah it sounds like she may have made an assumption, nice try ? Im not sure what you think I was trying LOL .

Tah - posted on 07/13/2011

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I'm confused..what lady..I think I've been in there a total of 4 times and I've never used it, the lady in front me, white, was asked how you are supposed to sake..credit or debit..when I walked up, she just assumed I was paying with food stamps...no mistaking this..but nice try...

Charlie - posted on 07/13/2011

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I think when there are people like this it might be hard for those who have faced racism to wonder the motive behind things : http://www.circleofmoms.com/political-de...

As for the OP I dont know the whole story , perhaps the lady is in there often and always pays with EBT ....it may or may not have been race related no one will ever know without asking the cashier , I choose to see the good in people.

I faced a lot of racism as a child ( I am an Australian / Isalnder ) for being "black" although my heratige does not have a history of persecution my colour apparently does growing up in the face of racism it never tainted my view of people or their intention , I take racism on an individual case and only when I KNOW that was the intent.

As an adult I dont face racism , I am confident about who I am , I mix with people socially of all skin tone and background ....perhaps I let racism go unnoticed , I dont know ...all I know is it isnt worth my time or happiness to worry about ignorant people .

Tah - posted on 07/09/2011

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I was wondering about the check every so often, when I moved to va before I went to nursing school I worked at walmart for a few months waiting for hospitals to call me back and we had to check All..not some...when in high school, I worked at several places as a cashier..again..check all not some lest the fake ones get away...







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I have been a cashier as well..and unless there are low standards at certain stores I was always taught that is it really rude to hold up a bill in front of a customer..that’s why they have pen’s(and if you don’t have one at your station get one ASAP)

I was taught you are to check all 20’s and up or only 50’s and 100’s (silly me I thoguth that was standard at stores like Target, walmart, Gap..ect)
Checking every other bill…is that really smart to do?? Im not in business but that does not sound smart to me…check em all
You could miss an actual counterfeit if you did the every other check..

And being targeted on a regular basis wont possible put someone’s hackles up…it will put their hackles up

The person could be targeted/judged..ect for a number of things

My man is Korean..he was raised with traditional parents, but he grew up in “The hood” If you will, but people who don’t know him stereotype him right off..Until he opens his mouth to speak, or until he has to stand up for himself or whatever…and because that has happened to him since he was a child he is quick to get defensive.
He is 31 so its been going on for a while…can I blame him…not really..I don’t know what that is like.

My point is; if something happens so often it is seriously hard not think or expect that it just might happen time and time again.

And fortunate for you, you wont ever know what its like and your children will never be possibly be subjected to such things.

Rosie - posted on 07/09/2011

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i have to agree that the situation that happened to you tah, was a case of the cashier assuming you were on food stamps cause you were black. pretty blatant, and i'm pretty sure she probably doesn't even realize it. i think the media has completely made black people out to be worthless thugs. i've noticed many times how the race of a black person is mentioned when involved in a crime, not so much with white people.

do i think minorities look for racism? well yes i do. i see it time after time. i've even seen it in this thread. the thing with the cashier checking the money with the counterfeit pen was an example i can think of. as a cashier myself i am instructed to periodically check 20's and check every 50 and hundred that comes through my line. it might be just the "luck" (if you want to call it that) of the minority for the cashier to check their bill, most likely not having anything to do at all with their race. i've seen articles about the NAACP calling for the removal of a greeting card because the solar system themed card says "hey black holes, you are so ominous, watch your back". tell me how in any way that is refering to a black person?
i will agree that being targeted so much on a regular basis can probably put anybody's hackles up, and maybe have them looking for things that aren't there. i do wish however that i or any other non minority wouldn't be looked upon that way simply by the color of MY skin. it's counterproductive. i'm not black so i will never know what it is like for someone to experience racism the way black people and other minorities do in this country. but i simply cannot get over the idea that judging someone based off of the color of their skin (whether black or white) is what started this whole thing hundreds of years ago.

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media biased obviously agree there. another thing I see differently about our countires or at least toronto. coverage on minority or white (which btw in toronto has "caucasion" has been the minority for years now) seems no different. not that I work for the police and hear all dispatched stuff and have to sound naiive here but media att'n for missing people regardless of status (in race aspect).

Tah - posted on 07/09/2011

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Yeah Vicki..has she seen teen mom..lol..the majority of those teens don't look like me or pagan..lol

Amy - posted on 07/09/2011

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i'm so late coming into this again. haha - us whiteys having kids late, vicki - too funny!! you made me smile.again.

yep - homesteader. lol. anyone care to can 14 qts of green beans with me sunday? lol. i'd like to be in an amish like community - but with technology. I am not washing laundry by hand, love my trashy novels, and..yep internet. but would be nice to just have a peaceful mosaic like environment to raise family. :)

yep - news totally biased. don't get me started on news..

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There are countless stories of minorities(Asian, Spanish, Black..ect) being ignored or not having as much coverage as White’s



I have to say: “It is that bad”



The facts are all there, the stories…you can find them, this is not just in our head, we are not exaggerating, and we are not “Looking for racism”



If you take the time you will see…and be blown a way

Tah - posted on 07/09/2011

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What you suggested is the mind set that people use to justify the stereotypes and racism.

Tah - posted on 07/09/2011

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Or carol it's what we said,...but there are always those who would make that assumption...sheltered, or those who don't want to believe it's that bad..like you jumping to the conclusion that she was a runaway or didn't have a family, because what that's the norm for missing black girls??...every black girl I knew had 2 parents who loved them for the most part. do you think this is the only time it's happened...HAHAHA..happens all the time. Sara goes missing at the same time as Nakia, nakias story gets 1 broadcast of her family putting up flyers, Sara gets coverage everyday, it's on Nancy grace, her crying mothers pleas are on every channel while nakias family and neighborhood are left to their own devices with lackluster investigating and no media. Open your eyes carolee...please

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Or maybe she had run away... or didn't have family. I agree that it should still be reported on, but there may be other circumstances that we don't know yet.

Tah - posted on 07/09/2011

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That's something else we have been saying for years Barb, it's not the first time it's happened. Black girl missing, killed etc, white girl, it's the news forever on every channel. Why would the black family not contact authorities???...do you think they loved their daughter any less, no, it's the difference of value placed on their lives....it's obvious to us I don't sometimes understand why it's not that way to others.

Barb - posted on 07/09/2011

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yeah, so why is she working at 7-11 at that age? no degree like you have?

A story came up in the news today that makes me wonder as well.

A month or so ago a young woman at IU went missing, Lauren Spierer. There have been massive manhunts, it's been all over the news, even the national news looking for this girl.

Yesterday or the day before, they pulled a young woman's body out of the river. Unlike the missing Lauren, this girl was African American.

It wasn't even on the news that she was missing, the story of her body being found only has 3 sentences. No manhunt for this girl, no press conferences or news briefs. People are speculating it's because she is AA, if she would have been white it would have been all over the news. Others are saying it's not racist at all, it's a matter of money. The Spierer family has a lot of money and that is why they are getting so much attention, that and they contacted the media to get word out there that their daughter is missing.

We don't even know if the girl that was pulled out of the river's family even tried to contact the media or police or if they even knew she was missing.

Personally, i think the news is biased about it. I don't think it has to do with money because a couple of weeks ago they had all over the news the story of a young girl who had been kidnapped and returned to her family, and they lived in a trailer park.

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:D, hey I'm into all but the last one, growing my own food, making my own clothes, sounds nice to me. Then no one would have to ask if I was on food stamps...just saying lol and on second thought I'm kind of interested in being a hermit too...

Barb - posted on 07/08/2011

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i think Amy an i are already there homesteading. I only go into town like once a week and even then it's with Doug on his errands so we save gas. Grow our own stuff, make our own stuff, or order it from amazon.

I re-read the OP because i thought there was something in there and wanted to double check.

The cashier was an older white woman... how much older? I can't imagine being older and my life's equivalent of education will only get me a cashier's job at a 7-11. So just consider the source there Tah and don't think on it for another min.. like that spare time you have between 2:59 and 3

Serinitee - posted on 07/07/2011

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Lol, gosh and I gave the chick the benefit of the doubt! Lol! Plumb racist. And probably trying to be cute to boot! Crazy. I didn't have one of those experiences until I got to college and everyone just assumed I was on African American scholarship on first glance...sad but true. Don't really know what to do with people these days. I look at the world sometimes and I want to become a homesteading, homeschooling hermit. Anybody want to start a community called H Cubed? :D

Tah - posted on 07/07/2011

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You didn't know what to say..cat blame you for that..next time..she will slip up again, or someone will..lol

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guess so. wasn't really sure. thinking she was explaining it away as having children young. cause us whiteys all have our children at responsible ages. wtf?! but even more so wtf is the fact that I said nothing. and you know I have a mouth.

Tah - posted on 07/07/2011

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So, is saying the family is okay with it because they are Hispanic????....wow..I know Hispanics who wouldnt be any happier about it then you or I...

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so my husband has a friend also from sardinia and he is marrying an american girl. met her last summer and liked her. or maybe just liked speaking mother tongue english after a month and half here. today they came by and she's a teacher. was telling me about a student of hers that got pregnant at 14 and all last year this kid jsut wanted to get pregnant. so she did with some guy few yrs older also in her school in a special needs program with a really low IQ (not that that means anything to me cause don't get the IQ stuff). she told me the whole family was really happy about it. I'm like huh? and she said...hispanic. well for once I was speechless. I know, go figure. and caught off guard and surrounded by a pile of italians speaking fast and loudly. what did I say? nothing. NOTHING?! kinda pissed at myself now for it but was more shocked (and struggling giving babies there milk at a bad time) but still...who the hell can openly say that to a relative stranger???!!! wish I said something but even now not sure what I would have said that would have fit the moment. maybe ok racist fiance of my husbands friend. been nice meeting you.

Brie - posted on 07/06/2011

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the kid by saying all white people owed him because they owned his ancestors... I realize its a fact but don't walk around thinking people owe you something... just because our great great great great grandparents thought it was right doesn't mean we do... and to be completely honest if my ancestors "owned" slaves i am ashamed of it! I find it horrid and wrong as to what was done then!

Brie - posted on 07/05/2011

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wow.. that woman was ridiculous... i don't think all minorities look for racism at all. i know my grandpa told me once that he ran into a black guy at a gas station who asked him for a dollar and he didn't have it and told the guy, my grandpa was a truck driver so he had company credit card, and the black guy said well you owe it to me because your people enslaved my people... my grandpa also said the guy was younger and wore his pants around his knees and stuff lol.. that i would say would be looking for racism or something to that extent but what that lady did should be reported! i don't blame you for being offended!

Tah - posted on 07/05/2011

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Here in VA it has a cardinal on it honey..and it was facing me...all she could have seen was the number to call if lost..lol..

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Lol. Wait wait wait! Someone may have pointed this out already, I've yet to read all of these comments (and I probably won't) but if your card has an American flag on it, there quite possibly could have been confusion. I don't know how it is everywhere else, but where I'm from the EBT card has the American flag on it as well. That being said, I do hope it was an honest mistake.

We do need to teach our children who are minorities about racism, but as far as how to recognize it, I think that it's all so "up in the air". Communication is a difficult process to begin with and everybody has their own perceptions. It would probably be much better for you to simply discuss racism with your children and to help them realize that other people's ignorance is not a reflection on them, even if it does affect their lives.

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I dunno. I see awards shows and blk history month as different. when blk hist month is taugth in schools it too depends on who is teaching it. if slavery is glazed over and other imp stuff shouldn't there be an overhaul of the curriculum?

I do agree...some people do it better than others. we also have standard criteria to follow and get routinely asessed. diversity in the programming is a part of what gets assessed.

Tah - posted on 07/05/2011

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Well Vicki, the idea could work In theory...but the implementation of it by biased persons would have to come into play. Alot of classrooms hardly touch on other races and cultures in history class. You learn all you want about the founding fathers, but they are clueless to learn about the first person to invent the stoplight, peanut..etc and beyond. They glaze over slavery, which is probably why people think blacks should get over it..I mean our voting rights had to be upheld by civil rights laws in the early 60s. Then younhad reagan come in and try his best to undo all the laws and programs that had taken years to put into affect to help black people get a toe up. It's very real and deep how far it goes and it's glossed over. That's why I like black history month.

On the radio this morning they asked why do black people still have their own awards shows, i don't know, why do we still seem to be the minority in alot of movies and die relatively first..lol. Why are white actors and actresses still making more per movie than blacks. It's not just here in the neighborhood. It's in Hollywood and everywhere basically. If I knew that all races and cultures would be have their histories taught equally and without bias, I'd say nix black history month, but we are still a long way from there.

I'm not sure where to see the whole interviewvicki..try google or YouTube, but yes, it was me that mentioned it..

Barb - posted on 07/05/2011

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Tah, in your post earlier you were saying about your son wearing his pants low and showing his underwear. Jeff never did that, but Bob did, drove me nuts, i'd wedgie his ass every chance i could.. Or better, i'd start showing off my underwear.. if i have to look at his, he can look at mine. Sit around in your bra and panties and see how quick they get the point.

I don't think i have ever stereotyped by race, but i know i have with overall appearance and actions.

For example, today at Staples i was in the checkout line and long haired dirty guy wearing a dirty shirt and dirty shorts and sporting a mullet under his dirty baseball cap. I know i wasn't the only one thinking he was up to no good because all the cashiers and the guy at the customer service desk stopped and looked at him.. I guess cuz anyone still sporting a mullet in this day and age has to be on some unstablizing drugs.. bless his heart. I'm sorry, but he looked like a meth head.. just to put it out there. And what do people on meth tend to do? they tend to steal things to support their habit, because their habit doesn't allow them to maintain a job.

And i guess i'd probably be judgmental about a group of kids wearing low riding jeans/shorts and looking like they were affiliated with gang (ie bandanas showing colors, big gold chains around their necks, low riding pants and extra huge t-shirts) And this is true for any race as all races have gangs.

I think that when a person dresses like a thug that is what they are idolizing, that is what they see and emulate. and how a person dresses and presents themselves is a testament to their character and what they hold as valuable, good or bad.

I do understand that wearing the pants down low is the fashion now. It isn't JUST the pants down low that makes me think of a gang affiliation, it's the whole package, the bandanas, copious amounts of gold, perhaps even a gold grill, sunglasses and not wearing a baseball cap properly, (which, btw, i love when white guys do that and then have a big moon sunburn on their foreheads from the snap band.. that's HAWT and sexy!) And in presentation, do they walk up and say "hi" or do they come up and say "yo yo yo baby girl, wassup?" Are they playing their music so loud the bass is shaking my windows and guts without asking me if i want to listen to it? Do they walk with a limp like they are packing heat down one leg of their pants?

None of these questions have to do with race, it's all about presentation and i guess, my own perceptions.

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look to the left of here. the column with orange highlights and the morgan freeman one. tah did you mention morgan freeman somewhere or was that someone else? would love to see whole interview. while I know it was a controversial hot topic, I like that part about the not having black history month. but hear me out. in childcare current best pracitce is to not do themes. not have cultureal days. not have pics of people posted (cartoone style) in traditional garb. not to say today we are going to learn about the country ____ and this is what they weat and this is what they eat and you get the picture. the current word for it is diversity and it doesn't jsut include cultures but ageism, special needs, whatever. and the thought is that it should be included in your program on a day to day basis. books in different languages and pics (real pics not cartoon stereoptypes of families going about their business be they whatever type of blended family or gender family or cultural family or various age family) and translations of centre signs in languages of the community, different food boxes in the house centre, scarves hanging from the wall, just a full on diverse mix of everything reflecting the diversity of the community or the bigger community out there. stuff the kids can relate to and stuff that is new for them. new but not highlighted as let's learn about_______. am sure you guys get what I mean. and you take the child's interests and follow their leads in what they want the programming to be. so and so talks about how her grandfather likes whatever food and eats them with chopsticks throw some of those chopsticks in the housekeeping centre and toss a book on the shelf about similar foods. have a program rich in diversity and have full immersion of it. day to day basis. nothing is highlighted unless a kid takes it there and we go with it. and at same time children can find something that is a part of who they are and there is comfort in that. I don't know if this is an answer to ending racism for future generatiosn (well obviously it isn;'t as the home and upbringing has a hell of a lot to do with it) but its a good way of supporting a better understanding of each other. but again, I have to say...these are city owned and operated centres where there are literally children of all backgrounds and faiths. I know these kids don't give a shit about where their friends come from. its the norm. then again the majority of city owned and operated centres are in higher at risk areas. not all but the majority. and if not at risk then theya re definitely still very culturally diverse.

so...the morgan freeman thing....I like his I don't want black history month. I don't want jewish history month. but I do still think its important to not dismiss the past and honour it and the struggles people have gone through to help us get to where we are and work on getting it better.

so not sure much about the rest of his interview. is it available fully?

oh and btw...even if its small town whitey ville...I still think childcare programs need to have fully rich in diversity classrooms. even if the community is all white. I HATED when my nephew in ny who goes to a private jewish school had a program offered about a trip around the world or whatever it was. sure he learned a lot about other cultures but hellooo....1980s much? and my sister isn't an idiot about that stuff so I know he was supported in his learning at home but what about the other kids that don't talk about shit with parents at home.

ramble ramble ramble.
anyone got any thoughts on my rambling?

Tah - posted on 07/04/2011

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Interesting to say the least..lol. It opened my eyes..lol. Now black people don't usually report it it's so commonplace. We tell each other and we just shake our heads and actually joke about it...we say "that's what happens when you drive while black"...people have no idea, it happens everyday. My husband is from North Carolina, he has stories as well...he was stopped all the time....he never really received alot of tickets though, they just wanted to ask him where he was going?..where he was coming from?..did he have any weapons?.. Search his tracker and send him on his way..he always fit a profile of some suspect they were looking for....

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