Model Modification

Barb - posted on 07/06/2011 ( 19 moms have responded )

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The American Medical Association has Officially condemned the photoshopping of models.

http://www.good.is/post/american-medical...

Kim Kardashian's artificially thinned-down thighs are bad for your health, says the American Medical Association. Though it's been a common practice in fashion, publishing, and advertising for decades now, photoshopping pictures has also left millions of Americans, particularly women, with unhealthy body image issues. The nation's most revered medical body is now saying enough is enough.

The AMA this week formally denounced retouching pictures and asked ad agencies to consider setting stricter guidelines for how photos are manipulated before becoming advertisements. "We must stop exposing impressionable children and teenagers to advertisements portraying models with body types only attainable with the help of photo editing software," said AMA board member Barbara McAneny.

Last year in France, members of parliament advocated attaching warning labels to imagery that had been digitally enhanced; lawmakers in England have also dabbled with the idea. Perhaps the AMA's new stance will be the nudge America needs to follow our European friends' lead. Unfortunately, our staggering eating disorder statistics seem to not be enough.
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When i first saw this i didn't even notice they had slimmed her down. What i noticed was that they made her skin color lighter. What message does that send? What do you think of the whole photoshopping thing? Should they just get healthy models and leave the photos alone?
I had once heard models described as "a walking hanger" What is the point of using a walking hanger when the majority of the world isn't that size and won't look that good in that fashion?

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Barb - posted on 07/07/2011

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It isn't just parents or family members that children idolize, if it were, that would make this easy. It's society as a whole who holds up these people as examples.

Youth know all the disney princesses or icons, but how many know all the women who hold a seat in congress or on the supreme court? How many crib sheets hold their faces? How many toys hold the image of women who got where they are because of their smarts?

These images are burned into children's minds before they even get a sense of self and thus becomes the image to uphold yourself to. Parents are sometimes unknowing accomplices in this if not victims themselves, but to say it's just the parents responsibility is a bit naive

Barb - posted on 07/09/2011

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that is just it Vicki, you hit the nail on the head, perpetuating myths that are unhealthy.

I think that is the difference in whether it is art or not. Picasso didn't use photoshop to make his paintings more marketable. It would be art if they let the picture stand on it's own, without retouching. If artists don't like the way it comes out, they do it again.. but it's because they didn't like how it came out, NOT because it will be more marketable.

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chicken or egg. starts in family. outside influences creep in pretty quickly. waay too qucikly. and no matter how much we encourage our daughters to find self worth in themselves in ways other than their looks/bodies/sex/ it inevitalby affects them. as well as our sons as they
buy into the myth of beauty and health that is perpetuated by mass media.

surrealism in art is not same as surrleaism in magazine photo shopping. great artists of past were generally poor during lifetimes. can't say how much people that retouch models in magazines make but see it as part of the big picture. capitalism. plain and simple. perpetuating myths that are unhealthy.

blue periods. blue people. whatever. that is creative expression. just as when kids colour a dog green is creative expression. I worry when I see kids colour women with bodies of stick figures (and no, not the literal stick figure sense). surely we can't be that naiive to think that photoshopping airbrushing women/people in magazines to make them look skinnier or flawless in any way is anything other than manipulative?!

whoever responds...plese don't cut and paste quotes. really annoying and nitpciky. please jsut tell it like it is. or I guess we'll have to jsut agree to disagree. eww...did I really say that? screw that. disagree and disagree. period.

whatever happened to takes a village?

Amanda - posted on 07/08/2011

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6 year olds can hand draw, too.

Just because you don't like the subject matter doesn't make it any less art. "Trashy" being a subjective term. Actually, retouching a model to look "perfect" is EXACTLY surrealism. "surreal: having the disorienting, hallucinatory quality of a dream; unreal; fantastic"

I fail to see how these photographers are "trying to fake their own work" - they have a vision, and their vision requires Photoshop to achieve, just like Picasso had a vision, and it required blue paint.

"we all know people aren't blue. not all teens, or adults even, are aware that pictures have been photo shopped and airbrushed" - Don't they? It's been all over the news for years. I remember reading about it in Seventeen magazine (!) when I was 15. Well over a decade ago.

"i think they are trying to stop the ad agencies because majority does not believe as you do." - Rationally? In capitalism? Ya know, these photographers wouldn't be retouching things if it didn't sell.

"the few people who are aware of anorexia and all going on are trying to protect kids that aren't theirs." - By censorship, and violation of the 1st amendment.

"those kids who are susceptible because parents don't care." - So instead of going after the careless parents, we should focus on the artists? Not both?

Amy - posted on 07/08/2011

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original hand drawn art is not in the same league as photo shopping to me. A 6 year old can photo shop.

Those artists - and all true artists aren't trying to fake their own work. I can't believe you'd compare a trashy magazine photo shopped cover to make women who aren't perfect - look perfect, is not the same as expressing something surreal. we all know people aren't blue. not all teens, or adults even, are aware that pictures have been photo shopped and airbrushed for a long time. it's like false advertising. picasso may have had a blue period. but he didn't try to convince everyone that people are really blue.

i think they are trying to stop the ad agencies because majority does not believe as you do. the few people who are aware of anorexia and all going on are trying to protect kids that aren't theirs. those kids who are susceptible because parents don't care. screw people for trying to help others.

Amanda - posted on 07/08/2011

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"i don't consider it art if it's fake"



'let's hold the artist responsible! M.C. Escher's work must be torn down to save all those poor architects who are pulling their hair out trying to recreate it. And don't get me started on Picasso! Blue people? Really?'



The Ad agency/photographer is no different. They have a vision, and they are expressing it. Their vision of the female body does not represent reality. So what?



I never really understood this Barbie-body thing. It has never bothered me. If Barbie and Magazine Models have unattainable bodies... why should I care?



I think part of the reason, in general, my opinions are so unpopular, is because I believe the world is plagued with this Rabid Soccer-Mom mentality. That everything that somehow could possibly be imagined to cause some harm to somebody, somewhere, is awful and must be banned. 'Super-skinny models in magazines make young girls feel bad an develop anorexia! Ban the airbrush!' Instead of trying to fix the root cause, namely young women and girls basing their self-worth on appearance, people go after a symptom, thus solving nothing. How do we as a society educate young girls that their brains are the important things? I have no idea. All I know is how I was raised, which seemed to work out, (at least in a positive body-image kinda way, maybe not so much in a 'not being a self-righteous bitch' kinda way.) and how I'm raising my daughter.



Self-righteous bitch rant over.

Amanda - posted on 07/08/2011

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The Ad Agency keeps doing it because it makes money... but Why does it make money? Because people buy it. They are a symptom, not the disease.

Amy - posted on 07/07/2011

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Ad agency has a chance to stop it -but doesn't. too much money to be had. As parents we could stop our kids from purchasing magazines...but they're in school libraries and friends have them. They're going to see them. If they watch TV,they're going to see it. online - going to see it.

Barb - posted on 07/07/2011

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Of course it's the ad agency's fault. Everyone who gets a piece of the pie holds part of the responsibility. If it weren't for the ad agency, those pictures would never be published. It's the ad agency who chooses those pictures and it's the ad agency is who profits from advertisers mostly and some from consumer that feeds into that rhetoric.

Who's fault is it if not the ad agency?

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 07/07/2011

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This also ties into the thread I started….

How MEDIA has a way of brain washing people into believing that what they see is real, the truth or how they should look, be, feel, think, act, and wear
Or down playing the dangers of certain things…I could go on and on

Amanda - posted on 07/07/2011

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I didn't say it's solely the parents responsibility (it is society's as well), just saying it's not the ad agency's fault.

♏*PHOENIX*♏ - posted on 07/07/2011

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Well its damn time they started this…better late then NEVER I guess

And lighter toned people appeal more to the consumer its been that way for so long…we are conditioned that way..

How often do you see a person with a dark skin tone gracing the cover of a major magazine??
Ebony, and Essence, and Jet are major Black magazines…but they are not as big as Vogue, Vanity Fair, G.Q…ect

Amanda - posted on 07/07/2011

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Well, let's sue Sandro Botticelli, because I really doubt his model for The Birth of Venus had abs like that.

Yeah, I do think that many women base their self worth on their appearance. Isn't that what that article implied? Women and girls are suffering eating disorders trying to look like models?

"i don't think they were condemning models as much as saying falsifying photos not good influence on impressionable teens." - Who's fault is that? Not the models or agencies. Dare I say, blame the parents? I know plenty of women, myself included, without "perfect" bodies, who easily brush off the models in magazines while growing up. Our parents (and teachers and friends and family) reinforced that brains, not beauty was what mattered.

My severity isn't limited to women either. Men just haven't come up yet. Just you wait until I go off on a rant about The Dumbstick.

Amy - posted on 07/07/2011

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i don't consider it art if it's fake. And not all teens are aware of the photo shopping. They think it's reality because it's portrayed as such.

and again - wow. are you always so severe on your own gender? you really think most women want to look a certain way just to 'catch a man'?

i don't think they were condemning models as much as saying falsifying photos not good influence on impressionable teens.

Amanda - posted on 07/07/2011

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Seriously?



How about instead of going after the models (or more accurately the photographers, re-touchers, and ad agencies) We deal with the real issue, woman with low self-esteem. Advertisements portraying models with fantasy body-types is, IMO: Art. The AMA wants to censor art because impressionable young girls and women can't separate fact from fantasy.



How about educating girls on healthy eating, encouraging them to beautify their minds through critical thinking?



Ya know, I get it. Girls see a super-skinny woman in a magazine and want to look like her. But why? To attract men? To be popular? Blaming the model isn't going to solve anything, because it's not the root cause. The cause is women basing their self worth on their ability to catch a man. It's sickening.



So, go ahead AMA, condemn the models, but it won't solve anything.

Amy - posted on 07/07/2011

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Oh...they also only display shoes at stores that are size 6 or 7. Bigger shoes aren't "cute" and not as easy to market. Can we sing 'it's all about the money!'

Amy - posted on 07/07/2011

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well we'd all be models if we were photoshopped. there's the message. forget diets. just only have photo shopped pics of self for world to see. aren't we all pretty? oh. wait. brains count for who we are too? Boobs get photoshopped too. I heard sandra bullock has no chest, but always has amazing cleavage in magazine. hm....

Makes me think of Gidget. Why should she have to change who she is or what she looks like? Why should any of us?

I think Twiggy like models..what's the point? No one will wear clothes like that or if they do, they won't look like that.

I do think women are gorgeous and some are blessed with great figures. But I'd rather see it naturally. Julie Newmar, Ginger Rogers....but hm. they had corsets, too. There. problem solved. forget photoshop. let's all just buy a corset. lol.

Carolee - posted on 07/06/2011

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It's about time! I've gotten a double-whammy when it comes to body issues. At first, I was so insecure that I was anorexic. Then, when I started eating again, I gained weight (duh), but got a TON of horrific comments. It is surprisingly difficult to learn how to properly feed yourself when you're used to eating only 2-3 meals per week. By time I got all of that figured out, I weighed over 300lbs. HORRIBLE comments are said to people that size. I lost 100lbs., and I am finally to the place where I am comfortable with my body... but OTHER people aren't?

I do not want my daughter to grow up wanting to look like fake people like I did. I think all women (and men) should love their bodies no matter what.

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