School policy hand shaking.....for or against it???

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/23/2011 ( 32 moms have responded )

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Ok, so I know this site has huge diversity, so I am REALLY interested in what everyone has to say about this. I am in the USA, and hand shaking when you meet someone is a standard social skill we learn growing up. It is a gesture of greeting, and if you don't do it...especially on a professional level...it is considered rude. Other countries kiss on both cheeks, bow....and quite frankly I am not sure about all other cultural greetings. Now onto the good stuff....

So, my son is in a Charter School (basically a public school privately funded, and typically has a better academic program than regular public schools) they have to wear uniforms etc. So, the big thing is, when entering school, they MUST shake hands with the director of the school....every single scholar. I don't like it, especially going into cold and flu season. I do like that it teaches the kids proper greeting skills, but every day of school? If your child is the last in line to shake the directors hand, you have shaken hands with 120+ other students, that may have a cold, strep, flu..etc.

Now, I know kids are going to be exposed to germs no matter what....I am just not a fan of directly exposing them with hand shakes....it puts our children in contact with it more directly.

Oh, I guess I should mention....they go and eat breakfast directly after shaking hands....with no hand washing.

What do you think about this...would you make a stink? Cause I already have.

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Tah - posted on 09/28/2011

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handwashing is the number one way to not spread disease. being in a healthcare setting of course this is a daily thing for us..most of us. They bring some CNA students to our units for clinicals and i was in the office doing some charting, the CNA school instructor came in used the bathroom in the office and then walked out. you can hear the water running when someone is washing their hands...but that didn't happen, i almost fell out my chair....He is teaching the future CNAs of the world, then he offers to get me a cup of coffee...no thanks handy harry, ill get it myself.



When my 4 year old goes to class the first thing they do is wash their hands when they enter the classroom, this is done several times throughout the day and again when we pick them up to go home. They clean their areas then wash their hands while we wait. I think it's a grand idea to instill this habit in them. If they are gonna make you shake everyones hands they need to have them go wash their hands or at least allow it before they go and eat. I see people picking their nose, teeth and other things, in their cars on the way to work in stores, in restrooms. i have my own sanitizer in my bags and one nurse commented on me cleaning my hands so much. Like i told him, you need to clean yours as well. how often do we come inon a monday and ms such and such is fine and your doing all these things for her without washing your hands and then you come back on wednesday and you need a hazmat suit to even enter her room. I have a thing with being touched as people know and having my personal space invaded. So maybe i have bias with that and knowing what spreads infection.

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Yes I agree as well. kids are well kids. They don't always remember to wash their hands, or , if old enough, use hand sanitizer when soap and water is not an option. It's kind of gross to think about what the other kids did before they shook the directors hand, nose pick, sneeze, finger slide off the toilet paper(this is sometimes how pink eye is started)

I meet with a lot of people at my work;management and Supships and we shake hands upon meeting. I am very conscientious of where my hands go after the meet and greet, no eye rubbing, eating, scratching nose. After they leave my area I will either go and wash my hands or use hand sanitizer. I am not paranoid or a germaphobe but I work in a shipyard with men. their moms and wives are not there so for them it is a free for all to be a scum bag and not wash after taking a shit, blowing the nose with a HANDKERCHIEF, having unprotected cuts, there are women there too who do not wash either after a piss they just walk out the door, if they shit they quickly run their hands under cold water, fucking grosses me out. I'd have to say 60% of the work force where I work is like this. Plus who want to bring this shit home to their family.



Sorry to be so gross about this but I think with some people you need to talkto them like this to get your point across.

Jane - posted on 09/28/2011

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I think I would send my kid to school with a container of hand sanitizer, with directions to use it ASAP after handshaking and before breakfast.

Then I would also begin a campaign to have wall-mounted sanitizers at every door with requirements that *everyone* use them. All of this could be couched in terms of teaching life skills - if you are going to teach academic skills and social skills then you also need to teach health skills.

Barb - posted on 09/28/2011

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OMG Vicki!! I'm so putting you out first to get slapped hahahahahaha.. you are so funny!

Barb - posted on 09/27/2011

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yes we should! but YOU are my partner.. i'm NOT partnering with him, i want to stay married.

I also like Amy's point.. your body is your own and touching should never be mandatory, even in a handshake.

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Teresa - posted on 09/30/2011

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I just talked with my son's wolfcub den about how to avoid spreading germs and the number one suggestion was washing your hands which all 7-year-olds knew off the bat. As I recall my elementary days in school, I don't remember actually being told to wash my hands before lunch or even given a chance to. That was 30-something years ago. I'm still here.

Amy - posted on 09/30/2011

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oh snap. back to schools. I know for a FACT that not all mothers have their kids wash hands after going potty. gross to the nth degree. so shake those hands mr director. ew. ew ew.

Amy - posted on 09/30/2011

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tah, just pretend you're playing football and you got tackled. lol. tough love. and then...we'll hose you down with soap and water to make sure we didn't get germs on you and then....probably we'll run like hell because you're going to ka-tah our asses with karate.

Tah - posted on 09/29/2011

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fine, but i wonder if i can get a one time order for 2 xanax from my doctor..one before i meet you guys and one for when we leave..cause m sure you will want another hug and i have to be ready..lol

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/29/2011

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It might be more of a pig pile on Tah, but it is happening. We can call it a hug though.

Tah - posted on 09/29/2011

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o i know what that is..it is an invasion of space, the affection i am referring to is this group hug that won't happen...lol...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/29/2011

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Tah, that is not affection...me going and giving you a kiss on your cheek is. That is an invasion of space.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/29/2011

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Thanks Jane. I am trying the sanitizer idea for the school, but some parents are totally against using it. So, apparently THEIR concerns trumps the concerns over the parents that don't like handshaking.

Tah - posted on 09/28/2011

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why o why must she test me??..lol....there is a little boy, maybe 19 or 20 who sits next to me in abnormal psych...but he cant sit close enough to me, he is almost on my lap..i get there early, move his chair..and he sits in it and slides it back over, next time ill take the wheels off so he cant roll to the right... his book almost touches mine and my books have issues with being touched as well..lol. My teacher also comes very close to me when he is talking and we extablished the first day i don't like that but every class when we talk about any disorders that would cause someone to be uncomfortable in a crowd here he comes. I even sit at a long table by myself in my other class so when we break into groups i have to move to where the people are.....affection gives me hives...lol...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/28/2011

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Amy, it cracks me up that you even have to decipher ROFLMAO for Vicki! BAHAHAHAHAHA...

Amy - posted on 09/28/2011

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ROFLMAO - oh vicki. You always make me smile. Oh, and translationg is Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off. ;)

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so tah when we meet and all jump you I promise to make sure we all wash our hands first. just please make sure you've done the same when you smack us.

Amy - posted on 09/27/2011

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I don't think signs of respect - like hand shaking - should be forced. It should be a "it's polite to do it, but your body is your choice". i wouldn't force my kids to do it, but if they wanted to i'd be running them to wash hands right after.

barb - doug cracks me up because aaron said hte same damn thing! we should get together and play euchre. lol.

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ech I want to vomit. not like I have to tell you...don't give up. its a good one to push forward on. keep us posted. and btw nice to see you're getting so involved in lucas's school. don't know how you do it with ladybug but good for you! wish the daycare had a parent council but they don't. lucky for them I guess cause I'd be so all over that!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/27/2011

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Oh Vicki, I am still in the process of making a stink. I am going to have this brought up again at the next counsil meeting....and if nothing changes in anyway...well...I will probably start a petition. I found out the other day, that they shake hands with all the teachers upon entering a classroom. Lovely germ sharing at its best.

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worked in a school in italy. every single day after coming in from lunch play they did this. and yes grossed me out cause went straight to rooms to spread the germs. and nevermind what a pain in the ass. I'd make a stink. so tell us...how did you make a stink?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/23/2011

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Actually Barb, I have to say, my son is one of the first ones there every day. Within the first 5 students....but I drive him, and the busses haven't arrived yet.

Barb - posted on 09/23/2011

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I had to laugh.. I was asking Doug for his solution to this.. here it comes... LOL Get in line first

September - posted on 09/23/2011

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I don't know that I would make a stink. I would just encourage my children to wash their hands before breakfast. However I do think this is a silly policy for sure!

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/23/2011

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Thanks for that Barb. I tried to find something from the CDC but really didn't have any luck. i may print the health mad one and bring it into the school

Barb - posted on 09/23/2011

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here is this one, it even has some what some presidential candidates do: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/a...

And there is this one which leads me to the idea of approaching the administrators with an alternative of perhaps celebrating greetings from all over the world, bowing, namaste, etc.. so instead of suggesting they take something away, suggest they add something.. in adding that, it dilutes the one you want removed.
http://healthmad.com/health/just-a-hand-...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 09/23/2011

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I like the morning greeting with everyone that walks through the door, just eliminate the handshaking. Still do the eye contact, good morning....etc.

Jurnee - posted on 09/23/2011

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I agree with you. Hand shaking is the #1 way to spread germs. Just think of how many kids hands the director shakes and what those kids may have been doing . Not all kids are great handwashers. It is polite, and I can see teaching it, but this seems to be a bit much.

Tah - posted on 09/23/2011

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i kinda agree with you about this. if maybe they had handwashing before breakfast it would be ok, i think i would at least mention my concerns.

Barb - posted on 09/23/2011

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I'm with you on this. I do not agree to the everyday line of handshaking and i am most definitely NOT a germaphobe. Strep, cold, flu, worst of the worries.. e-coli, Hep B, serious conditions passed when kids don't wash after going poo, pass the poo onto the main handshaker and kids have just gotten a liver infecting handshake.



I'm going to do some googling, there has to be something against this, especially in making this mandatory.

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