Are you a Germaphobe??

Jenni - posted on 09/29/2011 ( 16 moms have responded )

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Little Madison Sukenik crawls around her Fort Lauderdale home, grabbing everything in sight, putting much of it in her mouth.



A piece of French toast that has fallen on the floor, a ball that her dog, Nugget, just chewed on, a shoe -- all get chomped on.



So are her parents freaked out? Running for the antibacterial mouthwash? No -- Michelle and Mark Sukenik are more than happy to let 14-month-old Madison crawl around the house, restaurants, even her doctor's office, and put her fingers and other objects into her mouth. In fact, Mark is a pediatric ear, nose and throat specialist and he says exposure to germs will build up her immunity.



Now some immunology experts are beginning to agree that germs that many parents bleach and disinfect out of existence might help children.



"Hygiene hypothesis" holds that when babies are exposed to germs, it helps them fight allergies and asthma later.



The prevalence of allergies has increased substantially in the past 15 years, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and some experts believe that too much cleanliness might be a contributing factor.



Dr. Dennis Ownby, chief of allergy and immunology at the Medical College of Georgia, found in a study that babies in households with multiple pets have fewer allergies at age 6 or 7 not just to animals, but also to ragweed, grass and dust mites.



Ownby also said studies of babies in day care have found that while they have more infections early, they have fewer allergies and less wheezing later.



The Sukeniks say they know not every parent agrees with their easygoing lifestyle.



Michelle said she used to be a "germaphobe." When her husband would come home and hug Madison wearing the scrubs he had worn all day while treating sick kids, she said she was "mortified."



She was "grossed out" when Mark let Madison eat food right off the floor of his office.



But then she noticed that Madison wasn't getting sick. She didn't get her first cold until she was 13 months old while the children of friends who were meticulously clean were sick many times before their first birthday.



But Kara Sherry of Columbus, Ohio, says her kids are also rarely sick, and she's a self-described "clean freak."



She sanitizes the family's toothbrushes by putting them either in the dishwasher or boiling water.



When she goes grocery shopping, she wipes down the edges of the cart with antibacterial wipes before her children Sam, 3 ½, and Hayden, 5, climb in.



Her daughter Carleigh, almost 2, sits on a piece of fabric in the front of the grocery cart that covers the handle. Kara said she never touches the handle of a grocery cart, and would never let her children touch it either.



"Anything could be on that handle," she said. "Someone could have gone to the bathroom and not washed their hands, someone could have a cut on their hand. It could be staph, E. coli, it could be anything."



She said she does this out of "love and protection. I look at it as a way, as another way I protect my kids."



Ownby said studies don't show that Sherry is hurting her children, but that anything much more than basic hygiene like hand-washing isn't really necessary.



"It would be more than what I'd be willing to do in my own kitchen," he said."



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Charity - posted on 05/16/2013

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I am not a germaphobe at all. My kids play in the dirt get dirty, eat things off the floor and touch shopping carts. We use basic hand washing and clean and all that but in most places I don't freak out. I am a nurse and I wash my hands meticulously and use aseptic technique at work and I don't like my kids to touch my scrubs. In the hospital there are patients who immune systems are compromised often carry antibiotic resistant bacteria and other more concerning things so I definitely take a much more precaution there no doubt. I have taken microbiology so I know that there is bacteria every where and I also know a HEALTHY persons immune system is amazing and exposing a child to viruses and bacteria does help them build a strong immune system! My neighbor is obsessive about cleaning and she runs to the Dr. on the second day of sniffles her kids are sick often. Germ exposure for healthy children without compromised immune system is good.

Jenni - posted on 10/01/2011

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Haha, I don't think anyone's going to give you shit for it Katherine! I'm a neat freak myself. But I'm still not easily grossed out by the things my kids put in their mouths. I mean, obviously.... there's exceptions.



I have a pet hair-a-phobia. lol Pet hair skeeves me out. So we all have our thing. I don't mind going to people's houses with pets as long as they vacuum regularly. But icky, I hate pet hair on my clothes!!!



We have these friends and they have two pugs who shed blankets! They're tidy enough people but they both work so I imagine they don't have a ton of time to clean which I'm completely understanding to. But I'll admit it does drive me a little batty when we bring our kids over to play with their son. Even when they're in their backyard, we leave full of dog hair and my kids end up with it in every crevice. So yeah, we all have our weird aversions.



Tara, yup... commercial household cleaners give me the coughs and sneezes. I too, use baking soda, vinegar and salt as my all purpose cleaner.

Tara - posted on 09/30/2011

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Nope, definitely not a germaphobe. Yes, handwashing after the bathroom, before we prepare food, etc. No antibacterial anything.

I clean my house with white vinegar, baking soda, salt, etc. I'm allergic to a lot of commerical cleaners so I had to find alternatives that work well.

The thing that gets me is people that use bleach on everything, even mold, etc. Bleach doesn't kill mold - it just whitens it - vinegar kills mold.

I just don't have an issue with most stuff like that. I get my girls vaccinated on time, but for me that's just common sense.

I figure I've had every body fluid/solid my kids can produce on me, and so have they, so if it bothered me I'd never get anything productive done.

Katherine - posted on 09/30/2011

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I'm such a germaphobe. That article made me want to puke. Ugh! My kids wash their hands all the time. I freaked because my youngest took her diaper off and got poop all over her hand. She touches herself and I make her wash her hands. I know it's extreme. Gross things gross me out. I have hand sanitizer in my purse I use it all the time. Screw immunity! Ewwwww. I have issues I know. I've always been that way. If I could I would scrub their mouths with bleach. The things they do....and my 6 year old STILL puts things in her mouth. To "chew" on. Sick. She chews on her hair too.

I know I'm going to get shit for this lol.

Michelle - posted on 09/30/2011

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I am very much not a germaphobe. I don't think I'd survive the kids toddler years if I was. Some germs are fine for kids to be exposed to, some are not (like poop). We do lots of hand washing. Not too big on all the anti bacterial products just because that does destroy their immune system after too much use. I do get the kids flu shots and other vaccinations. I would never have a chickenpox party, but I have no problem with my kids playing on the floor etc.

Stifler's - posted on 09/30/2011

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um NOPE. Good for the immune system is my motto. I clean like a normal person but I do not disinfect everything every day.

Susanne - posted on 09/30/2011

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I have 2 dogs theres no way i could keep the dogs and baby seperate so theres germs all over the house and the baby loves sitting in the dogs bed too which is a bit annoying lol.

Lin - posted on 09/29/2011

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I wouldn't say I'm a germaphobe. My house isn't spotless, and I only try to keep serious germs out of the way, like shigella (which seems to be a problem in my area). The cold? Bleh, no biggie. I'm sure it will also help my kids deal with illness better from a behavioral perspective; my husband hardly ever got sick as a kid and he's a big baby when he gets the sniffles. I can get some severe sinus infections and I'm only at the doctor because I can't give myself antibiotics.



Though the soap dispenser in our bathroom is a cartoony version of the cold virus, and we have plush versions of the flu, herpes, chicken pox, etc..

Constance - posted on 09/29/2011

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I think when it is shown to prevent almost completely then it is worth it. Vaccines eliminated major desease but flu shots do not. That is wh it is a yeary shot and it only prevents certain strains to begin with.

Jenni - posted on 09/29/2011

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My kids will be getting Gardisil as well. I didn't get the chicken pox vaccine for my son. I thought it was odd to be vaccinated for CP at the time. But my son has CSP (compulsive skin picking) so I've rethought my original stance. I did get it for my 16 month old last month and when she goes for her next immunizations at 18 months, I'll be getting the CP vaccine for my son.

Constance - posted on 09/29/2011

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I abosolutly think vaccines are very good. All my kids have all theirs. Even Gardisil.

People will argue anything. The flu shot absolutly makes people sick. If I was sick before then why would I be able to run around and do eveything I need to do. No headache, fatigue, no nothing. Hubby gets the shots by morning I am sick in bed with a 102 + fever, and ready to just die.

I know people belive that it can't make you sick but it can. Just like being sneezed on can make you sick.

Jenni - posted on 09/29/2011

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My mom just had one last week and she said she got sick after. I've heard a lot of 'rumours' about people getting sick after the vaccine but then I've heard others saying it was a myth and you were probably sick before you got it.



But I've heard plenty of first hand accounts about experiencing flu-like symptoms right after the immunization. Do you think there's any validity to those claims?



Edit to add: I do support immunizations but it's just the flu shot I'm iffy about. I don't think it's overly harmful or anything, just unnecessary for some people.

Constance - posted on 09/29/2011

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I agree tat in most cases a flu shot is not needed. My husband had one every yea when he was active duty and guess who always gets the flu with the flu shot ME. No more flu shot in this house. Everytime someone gets that damn shot I get the flu. Fever, headache, body aches, and everything else thatcomes with the flu. If nobody gets it I can go years without the flu.

Jenni - posted on 09/29/2011

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You know, I was thinking of including that in my post. That immune disorders would be an exception. So thanks for bringing that to light.



I have never had the flu shot and neither have my children. I do understand its importance under certain circumstances and for certain people (like the elderly). I believe it's unnecessary for healthy adults and children even. But that's just me.

Constance - posted on 09/29/2011

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I agree with you Jenni. I do think germs are good for you. The only proble I run into is my youngest has a suppressed immune system so I have to go some extreme to keep her healthy which is not easy at all. I will also say this which probally will start a fir storm with most. I don't do flu shots either. Last year we made the decision to give our 2 youngest the flu shot because my youngest was starting school and they both have never been sicker in their entire lives. I will never again do a flu shot in my house ever.

When I do degerm I use pine sol and bleach. I mop the floors twice a day. I wash her bedding 3 times a week. All the funiture gets professionally cleaned once a month. Change the filters on the AC unit once a week. All duct work gets professionally cleaned bi monthly.

She is outside everyday no matter what the season is. With her inhaler but she needs to be out there is is good for her.

Jenni - posted on 09/29/2011

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I am far from being a Germaphobe. I think germs are helpful to building a healthy the immune system.

But of course I still take some precautions.



Fecal matter can be very dangerous and make us seriously ill. So Hand washing after using the bathroom is a must. Hand washing before we eat or before I prepare food. But other than that, germs are fair game in my house.



I wouldn't let my children put communal toys (like at a play place, friend's house or doctor's office) in their mouths, but that's more out of respect for other parents and children. I warn friends with kids that our toys go in our children's mouths. I do wash them when they look grungy but I'm not overly anal about it either.



Of course I wash dishes and bottles and such. But I try to avoid anti-bacterial soaps, cleaners, and medication (unless it's absolutely necessary).



Yeah... and I'm not easily grossed out.



My kids are rarely sick. My son is 3 and didn't get his first cold until he was 18 months. My kids maybe get one cold a year. My son had one flu, a very acute flu with a low grade temp.



The most stupidest invention I've seen is a soap dispenser with a sensor so you don't have to touch that germ-infested soap dispenser. Uh, aren't you going to wash your hand right after you dispense the soap anyways?