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Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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Here in Arizona we have a racist Sheriff and politicians that don't see the difference between a legal or illegal mexican.

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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How is it fair to require people to carry their birth cirtificates (which is usually not a recommended practice) based on what they look like?

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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It is pretty bad here for people of Hispanic descent, one of my friends son and his friend were pulled over by a deputy sheriff

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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Yeah you don't want to come here. I have been telling friends and relatives to stay away from Arizona.

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Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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People use the laws to their own advantage, no matter what it is. And, while stating what the laws actually are, there is often a HUGE difference between what is stated and what is enacted. That is what we are debating, and the fact that people use these laws to target certain people, while legal, is truly sad and upsetting.

Shannintipton - posted on 10/01/2011

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Three. ITS A LOCK DOWN. Thanks ladies. I am severely stressed now. Thanks for the good time. Sheesh.

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You should fight against those politicans then, Lindsay, not the law. The law isn't racist.

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 10/01/2011

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Ok, there it is then. It's not the law that is racist, it's perhaps PEOPLE who may be racist. That is a whole seperate issue.

I think the law is sound. If there is racism or it is not being dealt with properly, we should still have this law, but take actions against the PEOPLE who aren't in accordance with the law. Who aren't doing their jobs properly. So if there is perhaps a racist person at the school, or a cop, take it out on him. Not the law.

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Section 28. (a)(1) Every public elementary and secondary school in this state, at the time of enrollment in kindergarten or any grade in such school, shall determine whether the student enrolling in public school was born outside the jurisdiction of the United States or is the child of an alien not lawfully present in the United States and qualifies for assignment to an English as Second Language class or other remedial program.
(2) The public school, when making the determination required by subdivision (1), shall rely upon presentation of the student’s original birth certificate, or a certified copy thereof.
(3) If, upon review of the student’s birth certificate, it is determined that the student was born outside the jurisdiction of the United States or is the child of an alien not lawfully present in the United States, or where such certificate is not available for any reason, the parent, guardian, or legal custodian of the student shall notify the school within 30 days of the date of the student’s enrollment of the actual citizenship or immigration status of the student under federal law.

So upon enrolling in school, students have to provide proof of citizenship? How is this racist? They are checking everyone at the start of school.

Shannintipton - posted on 10/01/2011

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Two more comments each and then I got to lock it up. Wow I have never had to do that before under my own decision. I am a big girl now. LMFAO

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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Just because a law is stated in a non-racist way does NOT mean those enforcing said laws are going to act non-racist.

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You are under the false assumption that this is a racist issue.

Shannintipton - posted on 10/01/2011

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Oh wow look at the time. It is up to 347 posts already. What do you think.

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Beason-Hammon Alabama Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act.

Section 3. For the purposes of this act, the following words shall have the following meanings:

(1) ALIEN. Any person who is not a citizen or national of the United States, as described in 8 U.S.C. § 1101, et seq., and any amendments thereto.

I still do not see how this law enacted is racist.

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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Here in Arizona the law now requires a cop or deputy sheriff to ask for a birth certificate

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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And if the government truly wanted to crack down on wasting helpful resources, they would drug test EVERYONE who is on assistance. I'm sick of people targeting others based on race when I persnally know a lot of white bitches who are on welfare who are basically lazy crack whores!

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Does the law Alabama passed, specifically state that they WILL racially profile?

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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If they were checking EVERYONE, that would be one thing, but they are TARGETING people of one race!

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 10/01/2011

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bigoted and discrimanatory against who? um ANYONE (reguardless of RACE) who is breaking the law. or are you saying only hispanics break the law? or that only hispanics live in America illegally? talk about racist......

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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By picking on people for their race, you encourage the public to do the same. Widespread blatant racism ensues. I do NOT want some wise-ass little fuck trying to tell my kid to "go back to where you came from" when he came from HERE. He looks fully Mexican, and it's NOT fair to search through his records because of his race!

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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These laws that Alabama and Arizona passed have nothing to do with immigration or reforming, these laws bigoted and discriminatory, I would think Alabama of all states would have learned their lesson by now.

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OH my gosh.... if you have nothing to hide Carolee, why do you care? If he's not here illegally, why would someone checking his records do anything? It's not a matter of RACE it's about citizenship status.

Shannintipton - posted on 10/01/2011

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I was thinking of baking some cookies. *sweat poring down my face in nervousness*

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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Sorry... I know I should not talk about that topic. I get rather passionate about what I believe and will end up severely pissing somebody off.

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Alabama will be attacked relentlessly by the left for enforcing the rule of law, yet no one is stepping up to take responsibility for the situation. These school kids are in this position because no one has been enforcing the immigration laws of this country, nor offering a common sense solution to the problem. Meanwhile, states are expected to absorb the overwhelming costs of support for non-citizens to the tune of $113 billion a year, according to a 2010 study:

The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a
staggering $113 billion a year — an average of $1,117 for every
“native-headed” household in America — according to a study conducted by
the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

In addition to the economic impact, states are encouraged to turn the other way while the less-than-honorable among them break our laws and many are not deported even after breaking the law.

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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That bothers me. My son would be flagged! I was born in Michigan, and he was born in Indiana. But his last name is hyphenated between mine and his birth father's last names, and he has a Mexican middle name.

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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That is why I am glad that President Obama and the Attorney General will go after these states that have these laws or thinking about passing similar laws.

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Just hispanics? Really? Alabama and Arizona are being racist?!

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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Yes, if you have a hispanic surname or if they think the birth certificate is shady they have alert the authorities

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Are they notifying police of people who are of hispanic decent?

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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I had heard about that, but I thought that it was in Arizona. Probably just read about anti-Hispanics in a state that starts with A and assumed.

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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Yes, In Alabama they are making schools go through student's birth cerftificates and making them notify authorities

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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Sorry, but I just see it as legalized racism. I want to hear them cracking down on those damned Canadians! lol.

Carolee - posted on 10/01/2011

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Lynn is watching Toy Story now. lol. She's also eating a chip. SO messy!

Lindsay "Lindy" - posted on 10/01/2011

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I hope it doesn't happen either. In Alabama they passed a really tougher law than Arizona's.

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