my son is eight months old and still dont sleep through the night(wakin up 6 times a night and waking up at 3am for good). does anyone have any ideas?

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Jessica - posted on 01/12/2009

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You MUST read Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child - I live by this book. The basic idea that this doctor has is that babies must be well rested in order to sleep - i.e., your baby's naps and daytime sleep must be regular in order for them to sleep well at night. It is counterintuitve to think that sleeping MORE during the day will lead to them sleeping better at night, but it has worked for us! The other thing we took from this book is to make an early bedtime for our son. If you're keeping your baby up too late in hopes that they'll be so tired they'll crash for the night then you may be putting them down overtired, which will make it harder for them to sleep. Argh! The whole sleep thing is sooo frustrating, it was the bane of my existence but we finally figured it out with this book. I hope you can find some time to read it, I think it will make a difference. Good luck!!

Christine - posted on 01/11/2009

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he is probably teething really bad and he is in some discomfort, try giving him humphrey's tablets they are hard to fing but I know Duane Reade seels them. Give that a shot and hopefully it works for you.

Amanda - posted on 01/08/2009

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I was in the same boat at 8 months...and although it was painful I let her cry it out. She only wakes once a night now to eat....I know I could probably get rid of that too, but I don't mind once a night when it was previously 3-4. Good luck!

Kate - posted on 01/08/2009

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We also just tried using cloth diapers for night time and she is now sleeping 12 hrs a night.  She is a heavy wetter and would wake up to  be changed in the middle of the night and then we couldn't get her to go back to sleep without feeding her.  Changed to BumGenius cloth diaper and problem solved. 

Emily - posted on 01/08/2009

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Also, if I were you, I would really try to find an alternative so you don't have to sleep in the same room. We have tried to sleep in the same room on vacations and he always wakes up more. I agree, I think they can smell you. Even if you have to sleep on the couch until he's a little older, I think it would be worth it. If you absolutely have to, then at least have some white noise going, so he doesn't hear your every breath and movement.

Emily - posted on 01/08/2009

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I also reccomend "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" He suggests that many sleep problems happen because children are overtired and their body creates hormones to keep them awake. Many sleep problems can be solved if you put your child to bed earlier and make sure they have consisten naps. My son goes to bed at 7:00 pm and wakes up at 7:30 am. Most nights he sleeps all the way through. Every so often, he wakes up if he is teething, then he has a bottle and goes right back to sleep till morning. He also has 2 naps between 1 and 2 hours during the day. We let him cry it out at bedtime and learn to put himself to sleep at 2 months and he has been a wonderful sleeper ever since. Read the book. It's great!

Anna - posted on 01/08/2009

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Hi Hun,



Hope that you managed to solve your problem. If not I have to admit that living your baby to cry is the best solution.



My little one was crying for hours, I couldn't stand it but it had to be done. I was seeing to her every 15 min massaging her tummy, putting lullaby on, giving her cuddles.



Now after 2 months she still cry a little when going to bed, and if she wakes up and can't fall back to sleep I put on lullaby on remotely from baby monitor and we all getting that sleep at night.



 

User - posted on 12/24/2008

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My son used to get up every 2-3 hours. Finally, one night, we just decided (together) to let him cry. It was a long 2-3 nights, but each night go easier and by the 3rd night, he slept 10 straight hours. Since we let him "cry it out" he hasn't gotten up one time in the middle of the night, unless he was sick. He is now sleeping 10-12 hours a night. He is still exclusively breastfed, as well.

Kate - posted on 12/24/2008

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I will second the poster who mentioned Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child by Dr. Marc Weissbluth. That book changed our lives too. My daughter almost never slept - less than 20 minute naps and maybe 5 to 6 hours a night with numerous waking during that time. After reading that book and choosing which method we wanted to try, she was sleeping through the night after two days.

Cindi - posted on 12/17/2008

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FYI: I used the CIO method with my twin girls at 5 months of age and they have slept 12 hours a night since. It does work for some and they do know how to put themselves back to sleep. I found that if I went in there then they really would wake up and it was that much harder to get them back to sleep. You've got to get a plan and stick to it -- they are much smarter than we give them credit for!

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My oldest son used to be the same way. A book called Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby by Marc Weissbulth changed my life. My son would not nap, took forever to get to sleep and then would wake on the hour. Once we got his naps sorted the nightime sleep became easier. The book is really helpful.

Good luck,
Stephanie

Alice - posted on 12/11/2008

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Have you read the Ferber book? He talked about sleeping in the same room..basically you just ignore him until the time intervals and then check on him and then ignore him again.

Katie - posted on 12/11/2008

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hey guys sorry i havent messaged in a while ive been a little busy. but nothing is working still i cant let him cry it out for so long bc we sleep in the same room so its hard

Colleen - posted on 12/11/2008

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I think it is okay to let a baby this age cry for about 5 minutes (as long as he is not in pain, hungry, dirty diaper, etc.) I would not advise going past 10 minutes max, though, because if it is taking this long then he needs his mommy to give him TLC. My boy sleeps alone for the first 8 hours (though he generally wakes up twice) and then I bring him into bed for the next 2 hours between me and my hubby.

I wouldn't be worried about him getting clingy or needy, after all he isn't even a year old. I wouldn't worry about those things until 18 months-2 years at least.

Here are some thoughts, if you haven't tried them.

I sleep my baby in a stroller. Then when he wakes up I just rock the stroller for a couple minutes until he is back into deep sleep.

Try different foods just before bed: ie. rice cereal, vegetables, things that will keep his tummy filled for longer.

Experiment with sound. Some babies sleep better with quiet music, others with silence. Try running a noisy fan beside his bed and see if that makes it better or worse.

If he sleeps in the same room as you, try sleeping him in a seperate room (make sure you can hear him or use a monitor). Sometimes babies wake up more if they can smell their mama. Especially if you are breastfeeding. Oh, and if you're putting him back to sleep without feeding him, get your husband/partner to do it so your baby doesn't smell the milk.

Actively play with him for half an hour before bed. Making sure he is really worn out is sometimes the trick.

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I would say... You have to get him on a schedule. I do not agree with the cry it out method.. Although some people swear by it. He needs to know you'll come to him if he needs you. I coslept with my son for the first six months. Then when he fell asleep nursing, I'd put him in his bed and go get him the first time he'd wake up. Slowly I worked up to putting him back in his bed. He is nine months now, and only gets up once a night, usually because he has to have a bowel movement. He goes, then back to bed. Be patient.

You also may need to be getting him up earlier in the morning. If he's up so early for good, he must be sleeping too much during the day. Encourage more playtimes and reinforce a strict schedule. People may look at you funny when you say you have to be home for nap time, but at least your child will begin sleeping when he's supposed to! Good luck!

Tara - posted on 12/10/2008

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I have been lucky with my son b/c he sleeps a straight 12 hours a night but I have been a nanny for ten years and I can tell you what works! Like everyone else mentioned..let him cry. It IS hard but you an do it. I also use Huggies Overnight Diapers so I know that his diaper isn't leaking if he wakes up..it eliminates a reason to check on him. I swear by them! Also, eliminate any feedings after bedtime. he may be waking up b/c he wants the comfort of you feeding him..he isn't hungry. As long as he is getting about 30oz a day of milk/formula, plus solids, he is fine to go all night. It will be a tough habit to break. Like someone else asked...how are his naps? My son takes a 2 hour morning nap and a 1 hour afternoon nap. He is also on a schedule. Same naptime, feeding time, bedtime. It's strict but it works...it truly does. Also, if he wakes at 3am, and isn't crying, just let him play in his crib. Sometimes my son wakes up a half hour before his normal time and I just let him babble in his crib. If I let him get up it could become a habit. Anyway...I hope this helps. I know it's overwhelming.

Emily - posted on 12/10/2008

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There is a really good book called The No-Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley. We are currently using this method because I don't think it is right to let your baby cry it out. Babies communicate through crying because they do not have the words to tell you what they want or need. This book helps you teach your baby how to fall asleep on their own over time, so the method works. Crying it out doesn't teach your baby anything, and it may work at first, but most babies will continue to wake parents at night because they don't know how to fall asleep by themselves. Check it out if you want a gentler way to get your baby to sleep through the night.

Dara - posted on 12/09/2008

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You must be exhausted! :-( How is he eating during the day? Is he eating every 3-4 hours?

Lubna - posted on 12/09/2008

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Hey Katie :) I understand what you r going through. But in my experience the only fastest and best way for babies to sleep through the night is when they sleep themselves. coz this way ur son is dependent on you to make him sleep and whenever he wakes up at night, which is normal for everyone, even we adults wake up and night but we just turn around and sleep coz we know how to sleep. I sleep trained my daughter when she was 6 months old and I used to ferber method.. CIO(cry it out) works trust me. its a very hard thing to do and sometimes its heart breaking to hear ur baby cry. but i felt that was the only way. she cried for 25 min the first night, second night 12 min , third night 8 min.. by around 5th night it was hardly 2-4 min which is nothing. now she sleeps through the night and goes to sleep herself. i would suggest you try it and the sooner the better because your son is 8 months old now and the older babies get, the more they resist and the longer CIO takes.. my sis in law trained her daughter when she was 8 months and she took 16 days and it was like 40 min of constant screaming and crying.. it was BADDDDD.. my sis in law went into PPD coz of no sleep and her overtired clingy baby and that was the reason she took this step.. Anyways I hope you solve this issue coz u need ur sleep too :) its a tough thing to do and you have to be strong and very very consistent. You cant send mixed signals to kids.. You can go in after every 5 min.. like start with 5 min going in.. then give him 10 min, then 15 ... then 20min..and be prepared that your going in will make him more angry and he will shout and cry even more.. but just hug him or kiss him and put him in crib again... ultimately the message here is that his mother didnt abandon him. He would get it after a few days. You can try some other easier methods too if you want coz being a single mother and having no one to help you through this process can be tough.. So choose whatever suits you.. and don't worry.. babies can be tough but you know ur baby best so do what u find better for him.. Good luck and keep us posted :)

Katie - posted on 12/05/2008

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well i tried the crying thing and it doesnt work to well it turns into screaming. and i am a single mom.so i dont have anyone really to help me. and plus my mom had two babies that slept through the whole night. but i cant seem to figure out why he wont sleep. i hae tried the warm bath with sleep time bubbles and lotion with a big warm cereal bottle. nothing works......

Kati - posted on 12/05/2008

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Same thing with me!

I cant let her cry herself to sleep though because we sleep in the same room..

I usually just give her like 3 oz. of milk when she gets up and shes good the rest of the night.

Bonnie - posted on 12/04/2008

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My daughter used to only get up 1 time at night for about a month and then she got sick and we're stuck right in the same boat as you now. She gets up for the day at 5am now instead of earlier like yours at 3am. I put her to sleep a little earlier and just trying to CIO (cry it out) a little up to about 20-25 min and sometimes she goes back to sleep. Keep it up!

Kyara - posted on 12/04/2008

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Have you let him cry for about 20 minutes yet? Sometimes it works for me. I think it takes a week or so of consistency for them to get it...

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