Any1 been pregnant and give birth while husbands deployed?

Arlene - posted on 03/26/2010 ( 38 moms have responded )

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Just wondering how everyone handled a situation like this? Did you have help? Were you alone? What were the ups and downs of being pregnant and having your child while your husband was deployed. Thanks :)

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Kristi - posted on 04/04/2010

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My husband was deployed while I was around 3 months pregnant with our first baby (my second) and he missed the birth due to being deployed late. We had 2 weeks notice of deployment and of course the prenancy didnt stop them from sending him, they didnt even allow him R&R since he was only deployed for 7 months. I had family to come visit, but due to school for the kids they werent able to stay until I delivered and with me being "stuck" in Hawaii on high-risk, I wasnt allowed to fly home. I ended up doing the majority all alone minus the 5 weeks I had family around during summer break. I cant say it was easy or hard. I did however do everything possible to keep my husband up-to-date with pics, videos, and had a 3D/4D ultrasound done, as to military does NOT record anything, although they do take several pics it just wasnt the same to me that he was unable to see our baby girl move. There were also days that I felt like everything was just too much and cried for the fear of anything going wrong. We are now having our 2nd baby due in Oct and deployment is just around the corner at the end of Sept, so far we have been told he will get to stay behind for at least the birth and his 10 days maternity leave - but this is the Army we are talking about and Im not going to hold my breath.

Sandra - posted on 04/04/2010

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Rachelle, Did you feel like being pregnant actually made the deployment EASIER? I had so much to do with buying things and decorating for the baby (I spend hours looking at crib bedding until I find the one that feels right, lol) plus doctor appointments and such, I had less time to worry about him. I feel that having something else to focus on really helped.

Eileen - posted on 03/26/2012

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I did ! He was gone for all of it. Wasn't even home when I peed on the stick.... And didn't get to meet baby girl until she was 12 weeks old :( it was hard because we also had a 1yo and a 2yo, but was very doable with a support system, I didn't live on or near a base so people didn't really understand. I had my mom in town a week b4 and 2 after she was born so that helped out a lot. We didn't have a video or Skype or anything during the birth and he lost Internet at that time also. In my opinion u can do this no prob, the hardest part is the guilt of being happy and excited while he misses the whole growing and birthing process. Just keep busy, send weekly bump pictures and be happy and cry whenever u need to! Good luck!

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Maria - posted on 01/30/2013

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Yep! Husband was in Afghanistan and met our daughter 6 weeks after she was born. It was a miracle that he was able to have access to the internet on the day I was induced so I let him know and we skyped. He was allowed to watch our daughter's birth via Skype. True blessing especially since he was in combat and rarely got on a computer. I had my mom help me through everything because I lived with her and the day my husband came home was a dream come true and then after that.....blah! Men suck with babies. They do get the hang of it but it is hard not to get frustrated when they come back to a completely different life. It was hard sometimes but I am very strong so I just learned to shrug it off and mostly worried about him coming home safe. I had great friends by my side and just learned t have fun and enjoy it all even though he was gone. Time went by much faster that way.

Erin - posted on 03/25/2012

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My hubby deployed when I was 7 months pregnant and came home to a beautiful 6month old baby! Never thought I'd say it but it's not as hard as you'd think. Being a "single Mum" to two under two was tough but I know it was a million times harder for him missing out on the kids and he had some guilt towards that. Hopefully you have support & realize that having a baby while your hubby is deployed makes you part of a very special and strong group of women. Nothing is impossible once you're a Defence Spouse!

Melissa - posted on 03/20/2012

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Mine isn't getting deployed, but he will be gone for boot camp (Marines) when I deliver. I wish I could help but just know that many women have done this and it will be alright. At least that's what gets me through when I start thinking about it too much.

Melisa - posted on 03/16/2012

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Yes I had to do this back in 2005. I was supposed to have help from my husband's family, but long story short, that didn't happen at all. They had other things going on. I didn't even get a ride home from the hospital, to their house some 45 minutes away, and I'd just had a c-section and our son was in the NICU. Yeah, my husband's family they were the greatest of support during that timeframe, what else can I say. So, I did what military wives do once they realize that they are on their own, I just drove myself back and forth, walked through the c-section pain, and took care of my kiddo. The second he was released from the NICU he and I were out of the "relatives' house" and on our way back up to Ft. Polk to take care of ourselves, the way military wives sometimes just have to do it.

Colleen - posted on 03/05/2012

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I found out I was pregnant 3 days after my husband left for an 18 month deployment. 2 weeks later I lost that baby and have to have a DNC while he was deployed. I then got pregnant with my oldest when he was on R&R. Thankfully his unit came home 2 weeks before she was born. He left again when she was 1.5 years old. I got pregnant just after that he actually got to experience that one wiht me. He left again when the youngest was 1 and the oldest 4. He has been home for a year now. It is definately hard without him. THankfully I have had my mom and stepfather and also my Dad and sister( who is husband also in the military.

Both my girls talked to Daddy on the computer using skype all the time. The would think of all the things they could show and tell him in their once a week chats. Even when they were 1 years old I would still at least sit them in front of the computer so that they could see and especially hear his voice so that they would recognize it. Good luck. It is definately not an easy thing to go through. But we are all strong women and just know there are more of us then you probably realized who have been through the same situations you are going through.

Heather - posted on 02/26/2012

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Yes my husband deployed in October 2009 and our son wa born November 2009. Luckily he was able to come home for R&R three weeks after he was born. They ended up coming home in Aug 2010. Use Skype as much as possible. My son knew exactly who daddy was and took right to him after coming home!

Jessie - posted on 04/05/2010

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I am so glad this topic came up I am more then likely going to have to go threw the later part of this pregnancy and of course delivery w/o my husband and more then like w/ no one but hospital staff which brings the question what to do with my other 2 kids?? I am hoping that my friend will be able to stay with me for the last month or so. this thread is actually putting me at ease about the whole situation :)

Sandra - posted on 04/05/2010

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Rachelle, We're more alike than you know. Last time my husband was deployed I was only pregnant with my second but my first was still very small. They're only 15 months apart. He was set to deploy again 3 days after my youngest was born. At the time, he was in the Reserves and was working on an AGR slot. someone made a booboo when his contract went through and put him in the same position open in the wrong unit in the same building. They tried getting it fixed but it's something that can't be changed for the life of his first AGR contract. I had prepared for being alone with 3 kids. at the time they were 3, 22 months, and newborn, all girls. We live 45 minutes from anywhere to shop. When I said I spent hours looking for the perfect crib set, etc...I did it online, lol. aafes.com has become my place to go for all our big purchases. No tax. no shipping. ♥ I've bought cribs, crib bedding, my double stroller, and all their big christmas presents from there because it's easier having it delivered here than trying to get to the store without the kids or having to load everything into the car myself.

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my husband never saw me pregnant, he was deployed to iraq in august and i found out i was pregnant in september. i am a waitress and i go to school so i was pretty busy anyhow, and i kinda didnt mind he wasnt there becuase when hes home for his r&r nothing ever gets done haha...so i concentrated alot on school and worked allllot, then baby came 2 months early and redcross contacted iraq and he was able to come home on emergency leave. my mom and dad (awkward!) were there for me the whole time, they helped me so so much. my mom held my leg, my dad held my hand and the nurse and staff were all very helpful too..im kinda glad it went that way too becuase i dont know if i would want my husband to see all that, he insists he does but...i myself was completly grossed out let alone him!..my classes wernt suposed to start for another week, so i had no idea what the hell i was doing..our son was born on a tuesday and he came home that following thursday...our baby was in the nicu which sucked becuase we only spent 2-3 hours a day with our new baby.. that was the hardest part for me..

Rachelle - posted on 04/05/2010

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Sandra G......well, have you ever tried doing all those baby related things (shopping in particular) WITH a 2 and 3 yo in tow??? LOL! If it had been my first pregnancy, ya, I think I could have easily passed the time the way you did. BUT it was my 3rd, so I was pretty tied down with my 2 olders....which also kept me busy. :) In my situation, I'm pretty independent, and our marriage probably survives B/C my husband is away so much. So while I would have preferred that he'd been there, I was OK with it. EXCEPT regarding my 2 olders....I had noone to watch them when I had doc appointments (so they went with me most of the time) and then when I went into labor....what to do? It's nice that so many women I've seen on here had their Mom or a best friend to come be with them. I didn't have that. Noone could drop what they were doing and be with me OR worse, my kids. I had a neighbor friend that was willing to keep my boys, but they were so little, I know they wouldn't have been comfortable with that.....or understood much at all. At the very last minute, my sister was able to come and was there for the 4 days before I delieverd, but then she left the day after. Honestly, it was the after, having a new born plus a 2 and 3 yo all by myself that was the hardest. No time for recovery for me at all. But my boys are now 7, 6, 3 and all is well. And as hard as that was, I really miss my babies. I LOVE and adore the little boys I have now, but I REALLY miss the baby days.

Rachelle - posted on 04/04/2010

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Looks like we're all in very good company. My husband deployed when my first was 4 mos, then again when my second was 2 weeks, and again when I was 3 mos pregnant with my 3rd, so he missed that birth....adn pretty much most of the baby years for all three. It's hard, but being pregnant WITh my husband home was hard too. God chose us women to bestow the gift of pregnancy and motherhood....enjoy it and always know that you are much stronger than you feel at any given moment. So focus on teh good stuff (there's LOTS of it) and don't waste your energy on what you can't change. Good luck!

Angelwispers81 - posted on 04/03/2010

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i was in the army my self and was pregnate and had our first child while my husband was deployed. i had a really good friend help me out from my unit. i was all the way in germany away from all family. then i got out and had two more kids during two diffrent deployments. all three kids were had while daddy was gone. between friends and family we got throught it. just take it a day at a time and do what you can. dont be ashamed to ask for help.

Samantha - posted on 04/03/2010

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I got pregnant right before he got his orders to deploy. He left when i was three months pregnant. It was hard, but i had my mom and sister there to help, and i made sure I had a doctor off base, which was great. My doctor was there to help make sure everything went great with the baby, and I went into pre-mature labor. That would have been the hardest time with out him there. But my mom and sister were great help and the time I stayed with my mom so i had that support. He was able to get leave for two weeks and my doctor had the chance to make sure the baby was fully developed and i was able to have her early while he was home, and he left two days later. You just gotta stay positive and remember that u are a strong women and your it will be a great moment when he does get to see the baby and you again

Sandra - posted on 04/03/2010

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My husband was mobilized (He was in the Reserves) when my oldest was 3 months old. During the 6 months he spent on base before they actually sent him, I visited often, he was able to score several 3 day passes to come home, etc. During this time, we found out I was pregnant. pregnant and alone with a 6 month old baby. I was about 3 months along when he left and my daughter was 9 months old. Luckily, my doctor was amazing. He scheduled my first ultrasound during my husband's last 3 day pass before he deployed so he could see the baby, and I sent him pics of the second ultrasound. I was lucky enough to have a close friend who came to all of my doctor's appointments with me. We even ended up pregnant at the same time. She was amazing. Without her, I don't know where I would have been. The baby was upside down until about 37 weeks and wouldn't turn. She was right there with me the morning I had to go in and have the baby turned through my stomach although i'm sure at 6 months pregnant she would rather have been home sleeping. She's amazing. My husband scheduled his 2 week leave to start a week before my due date. My doctor agreed, that if my body was ready, he would induce me early so hubby could have extra time with the baby. I was supposed to go in Tuesday night and hubby was getting in on Wednesday. At my Dr. Appt on Tuesday, my doctor decided that he would not send me in that night because I was in early stages of labor and the baby would have been born before hubby even got there. So I went in at noon the next day to be "induced". Hubby was due at the airport around 4pm. The nurses, informed of the situation by my doctor, would not touch me other than to put in an IV. I was already contracting about every 5 minutes. Needless to say, I didn't need to be induced. My husband's plane was having problems. They rescheduled him for a flight later that night, but a few friendly airline workers, told what was going on, found him an earlier flight. My husband got to the hospital in full uniform, showered and changed in my hospital room, and was able to hold my hand for about 2 hours before she was born. I know how lucky I was to have him there with me.
The advice I can give to you is plan ahead. If you have other children, make sure you have someone to watch them scheduled for about 3 weeks around your due date. Many people webcam so he can "be there" even if he's not physically there. Surround yourself with friends and family. You would be surprised in how much people are willing to help. Keep a journal about every minute of the hospital stay. Little things like how many times the baby woke up last night and how much he ate, slept, etc. will help your husband bond with the baby. I videotaped my kids everyday for a few minutes while he was gone. Even if they were just sleeping so he could see them grow everyday. He loved getting the videos every week in the mail and would watch them with a bunch of his friends. And everyday, I showed the girls pictures of "Dada" so they knew him too. It's a hard situation to be in, but there are so many things you can do to make him a part of it. Best of Luck to you.

Corey - posted on 04/02/2010

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yes my boyfriend left for Iraq when i was 6 months pregnant, it was deff hard but i had a lot of help and support from my family and friends. I also got to talk to him pretty much everyday on skype which i loved he got to see my belly grow until our little girl was ready to come. I was upset though he couldn't be there for her birth but i did get to talk to him the next day and he did get to see her through skype. Skype is the greatest thing in the world lol. Even after she was born we got to talk and see each other everyday, he didn't come home until the baby was about 4 months old I was a little scared she wouldn't know who he was and get scared, but she new her Daddy right away when he came home it was the most wonderful moment we ever had.

Devon - posted on 04/01/2010

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my hub deployed when i was 8 months preg, iwent back to my parents for the first half of this deployment and im going back home in a week. she will be 5 months old when he finally meets her, it was really had doing it without him.i had complications with dialating and was in labor 22 hrs without aany med at all and since my water broke 20 hrs prior they had to med me and do a emerg ceasection, my hub was on the phone the whole time with his mother who the hospital didnt share any info with her or anyone for 2 hrs so he was upset the whole time, then finally after we got to skype with him, i am kinda happy i had her now it makes the time go faster and it has made me a stronger person and a better mother knowing i can do something like that completly on my own i was so scared before having her about being alone.

Karina - posted on 04/01/2010

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I'm currently pregnant for the first time with my husband deployed right now! It's extremely hard, but we are making it day by day. I'm trying to keep him up to date with everything. Skype has helped a lot, since I used Skype to tell him that I thought we were pregnant and to confirm it. It was so great and emotional to see him on the other side of the computer jumping up and down and extremely excited. I plan to take alot of pictures. I'm still early on in the pregnancy. I am almost 9 weeks. so I have a long way to go.

Katie - posted on 04/01/2010

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My husband was not deployed but he was in basic training. He left for Ft. Jackson when i was more than 7 months pregnant and was not there for the birth. i did have my family and my midwife there but it wasnt easy. i think about having another child all the time but i am afraid that hell get deployed while im pregnant!!

Arlene - posted on 03/31/2010

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Thanks Laurie. My husband and I are not currently expecting but seriously considering another baby. And though I may be criticized for the thought of planning a baby when his deployment is inevitable, it's been ALOT to consider. For many personal reasons this would be best, though he will be missing the birth. That is something we are both aware of.

Ive seen quite a few women criticized for this, which is downright wrong. People are more than just the decisions they make and most are intelligent ppl who have considered the best option for thier family.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback everyone!! :)

Laurie - posted on 03/31/2010

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I haven't been through this yet but I am about to be going through it. We just found out that I am expecting baby number 3 and my hubby is going to deploy when I am about 6 mos along. I will also be PCS'ing at about 4-5 mos preg. I am a little worried about this because my first two pregnancies had some complications but I know that I will be ok. I have family that is willing to travel on weekends to help me out (my mom and step-dad) and my older two children are at an age where they will be somewhat self-sufficient (they are 7 and 5).
I have done a lot of thinking about this situation and I think the largest part of the battle is going to be keeping positive. I know that my hubby would be here if he could be and he is the one who is going to be missing the birth of our child and getting to know him/her as a newborn. While I will need support, I will be there with our little miracle. He won't get to meet him/her until the baby is 3-4 mos old. This will be hard on both of us but I know we can do it!
So, hang in there Arlene!

Amber - posted on 03/30/2010

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My hubby left when I was 10 weeks pregnant! :( He missed everything! Including the birth that came a month early! Emergency c-section, a few days in NICU, the whole works! He got to meet his first child when he was 8 weeks old! Pregnancy part wasnt bad my myself, I had my mom and sister, it was fun doing all the stuff with them. When my Dr said "NO! This baby has to come now!" at 35 wks and 5 days, That was the first time I felt I needed him the whole time! I got alot of extra support from my Dr and nurses, they tried so hard to understand what I was going through, that helped ALOT! In the end you get to look back and say "Wow! I really did it all by myself" I felt like I accomplished alot! Its funny now, my husband has no idea truly what it all meant when I tell him things... Poor thing doesnt understand what 4 1/2 ft around looks like on a woman who is only 4 ft 9 tall.... haha!!! It will make my next pregnancy fun, because I know whats going on and he's really lost :)

Katrina - posted on 03/30/2010

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I found out I was pregnant two weeks before my husband went to basic training. Luckily, I was home and had my mother and family to help me. I gave birth while my husband was in Tech School and the Air Force did not let him come home. My husband finally got to see his son when he was 2 weeks old. My son Tyler is now 5 years old, and even though things were not ideal, every thing worked out. My husband may not have been there for Tyler's birth, but he was there for all his firsts. Being a military wife means putting up with certain things. Our husbands are fighting for our country and that means we have to be strong. While he is gone keep busy, and make sure you have friend/family members to support you. Be sure to keep him up date as much as possible. You can send him pics of the ultrasound and of your growing belly etc. There are also many programs that the military has that you can take advantage of. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. :)

Lacee - posted on 03/30/2010

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I had our son while my husband was in Korea. He left when I was 5 months pregnant. I thought I was gonna be tough and do it on my own but it was a lot harder emotionally. I went home and stayed with my parents. It was so much better. Alot of my friends had no clue what I was going through so they werent alot of help. Being with family was so much easier. I wish you the best. I know sometimes you just need someone to talk to so if you ever need someone who knows what your going through just message me!!!!

Tiffany - posted on 03/30/2010

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Yeah my husband missed my entire pregnancy and delivery. It honestly isn't as bad as you think. Yeah it sucks that he is gonna miss things and your by yourself. But you getthrough it. I recommend Skype, or something of that sort. It really made everything a lot easier.

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My hubby deployed when I was 7 months pregnant. I'm not gonna lie, it sucked...lol He was in training when I found out it was a boy, and always missed the ultrasounds and appts due to predeployment training. So hubby missed a lot. You're already pregnant, so you're already emotional! I ended up moving home when he deployed to have the baby since I didn't know anyone where we were stationed at the time. My mom and best friend were there for me and were in the delivery room. My husband luckily called right as I was about to push, so he got to stay on the phone and at least got to hear or sons first cry!!! After you have the baby, you'll be so busy with a newborn, so the time goes by a lot faster. My hubby came home when our son was 5 months old. I wish he had gotten to hold him when he was an itty bitty thing... Homecoming is the best though! Make sure you get someone to take pictures of hubby meeting baby for the first time!!! It's amazing!

Crystal - posted on 03/28/2010

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My husband was deployed when I gave birth to my daughter. It was hard but I couldn't have done it without my mom. She was there a week before she was born and stayed a month after. Some times they let them off the boat for a week. He got to come home for a week after she was about 5 weeks old. Make sure you send a red cross message to him. They will let him know that the baby was born and what size it is. Talk to the wives they will help you out too.

Vanessa - posted on 03/28/2010

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I can't say I know exactly how you feel, because thankfully they let my husband stay because of the baby. They were definitely not happy about it, but he got to stay. He was set to go in November and found out right before all the guys that were leaving went on leave. So I had already planned to be alone for the remainder of my pregnancy. I planned to go home and stay with both our families. Just having support from them helped me out a lot when I thought I was going to be alone. I wish you the best of luck:)

Ashley - posted on 03/27/2010

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well he wasn't deployed he was off in basic i had my mother in law.. my 3rd i didn't think he was going to be there either not because of military but because of marriage issues and now the 4th one due any day now.. our of 4 he has only seen 2*first one wasn't his sooo*

the good side of him not being there was he didn't have to see all that nasty stuff.. and the down.. well.. it sux that he wasn't there but he signed those papers and i was already pregnant so i knew i was going to do this alone it more of preparing yourself for this to happen always have more the one back up plan when its close to your due date.. and make sure LOTS of pictures are taken so he feels like he didn't miss to much..

Heather - posted on 03/27/2010

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My hubby deployed when I was 8 months pregnant. However, when I was 6 months pregnant we PCS'd. I went home before i went to our new duty stationa and the day we got there we found out he was deploying ina month. So instead of getting housing there and doing everything alone(since I really wouldn't have known anyone yet!) I decided to go home. So I was home from 6 months on and he tried to come up on the weekends( he was 7 hours away) but he got special permission and was able to come every know and then. He deployed in October and they gave hime R&R in the middle of December. So he there about 3 weeks after our son was born. He left a few days after New Years and won't be coming home until October. He's seen pictures everyday because I promised to send him a picture of the day and my mom takes more than enough for him to see! I have all my family and my friends but it's still hard. I love having the extra help but still feel like I shouldn't rely on my parents too much because I feel like I am taking advantage of having them with me. They help me so much but sometimes I feel bad that they have to. It's really a hard situation but I'm really glad that I have them around me.. and that I didn't have to be in a brand new place with no one that I knew and a baby..

Amanda - posted on 03/27/2010

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Mu hubby deployed when I was 4 months pregnant with our 1st. I went home for many reasons. Which ended up being harder on me because no one knew what I was going through. All my friends were at different stages in life than I was so I had 1 friend to hang out with the whole time. I was/am grateful that I was able to have help but I wish I'd stayed at our duty station. During the pregnancy I did at least 1 thing a day for the baby (shopped for him, washed clothes etc). When he was born I had my parents, father-in-law, sister & a friend in the room while I labored. My sister was the only one when he was born (emergency c-section) although she would have been the only one in the room if I had a vaginal birth. I was able to talk to my hubby almost everyday, which helped. TMI but it was nice in the sense when he took his r&r we were able to be intimate because I was healed or at least feeling good enough for that.

LeAnne - posted on 03/26/2010

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My husband was deployed for the majority of my second pregnancy and missed the birth, it was towards the end of his deployment and the baby was premature so they let him come home on emergency leave, he got there a few days after he was born. It was hard, but I had my family to help. The hardest part was him missing out on things, like finding out the sex, going to appt (which he did everyone with my first), picking out baby things, feeling the baby move, and of course the birth. When I had him, my husband was on the phone with me the whole time. He refused to have me send him pictures, cause he didn't want to see him for the first time on a computer screen, (keeping in mind he saw most of our first sons 'firsts' on the webcam), so he waited a few days to even see what he looked like. It was hard for him to miss out on in, but that was the most difficult part.

C. - posted on 03/26/2010

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My husband wasn't deployed, but he was at Basic, AIT and at his first DS and I was back home (he left for HI when I was in my 8th month and I was in SC). He couldn't come out to SC for the birth for various reasons. I had my mom the entire pregnancy, birth and several months postpartum. It was very hard to go through that. I think I saw my husband only 4 or 5 weeks out of the entire 9 months and then he wasn't able to come out to SC until my son was almost 5 months (like a week before my son turned 5m). Like I said, I had my mom, a few times I had my MIL (she and my mom were both in the delivery room with me) and less than a few times I had my friends (long story). For me, there were hardly any ups while my husband was gone, mostly downs. I got real depressed and ended up gaining almost 100 pounds during pregnancy. I def. don't want to see that happen to anyone else. As long as you try to surround yourself with people that love you and care about you, try to get out as often as possible and everything should be fine.

Robyn - posted on 03/26/2010

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My husband missed everything with my 2nd...well except the important part.Being pregnant with him deployed was hard because I had the constant morning day and night sickness and I didn't have any help with my oldest..who I think got tired of mommy being sick all the time. But you find you can get done whatever has to be done when you have no choice. We did the 3d ultrasound so I could send it to him, and my OB was great and made me copies of the pictures of the ultrasounds I had at his office so I could send them to him. My mom and sister in law were with me when he was born, so I didn't have to be alone. In a way it all happened for the best as if my husband had been home I would have been across the country from my family and my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 months after my son was born and passed away when he was 6 months old. So I am grateful that I have that memory with her and pictures I can show the baby when he gets older of him with grandma. My mom sent him a red cross message with the details once I had the baby, and my sister in law e mailed him pictures from her cell phone.

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yup my hubby was deployed - on a ship. my mother came to stay w/me and i had a really good friend w/too @ the time of delivery which thank god she was there cuz my mom passed out while i was pushing LOL (funny story). we didnt get to do video cam or anything because he was on a ship but he was able to call a lot so it was good :) i made sure cara was videotaping and they took a lot of pictures. make sure ur ombudsman is abreast of the situation and ur due date so she can get in contact w/the command also and the hospital will be able to send out a red cross message too.

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