Any pro spanking moms?

Molly - posted on 03/23/2010 ( 1316 moms have responded )

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Hello, I would like to chat with other like minded moms or dads who are pro spanking.

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Tammy - posted on 12/02/2012

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I don't live in a trailer, I lived in a crappy house when I was little, my parents worked their butts off & we ended up doing well, my hubby & I work our butts off & we do well. I'm not on a high horse. How can you say your experiences that sound offensive to me, "honestly" then I said my experiences "honestly" & that makes me on a high horse! LOL! I said my experiences, truthfully! I'm sure there are parents who aren't trailer trash hicks that hit their kids, but in my experience, there are not, haven't seen it.



My kids are pretty near perfect as far as being kind, working hard, being respectful, etc. I'm very lucky, but I also worked EXTRA hard for that. It's a lot of extra work to research what is best, read hundred of books, take the extra time, instead of whacking them, be patient & teach them. It's like going the extra distance. If you think hitting them will improve them, I disagree & I wouldn't get that angry at my kids at this point anyway to ever want to hit them. They're kind & don't misbehave, so I would ever feel the need. When they were younger, they weren't always angels, I had to keep my patience & do what I thought was best. Even though I may have felt like losing my control & hitting them, I never did. If you think I'm just saying they're angels now, because your kids aren't angels, maybe you should re-evaluate your parenting skills? My kids are TEENAGERS & they are awesome. People say teens are horrible, not here, I'm just saying to prove the point that you can raise respectful kids & not hit them. Some people think if you DON'T hit them, they aren't disciplined, not true. Raise them with guidelines, be involved, monitor them, be a good role model, don't put up with misbehavior even for a second. I NEVER put up with bad behavior, but never hit them. That would just be my bad behavior, that would teach them negative things.



You do seem angry, makes sense all around to me. You said in your previous post that Robbyn was making you sick because she was stating studies & the same thing over & over. She's always stated her ideas respectfully, unlike others. It's basically like talking to a wall, so whatever. I countered to your angry post against Robbyn that people like you make me sick, ones who hit their kids, also ones who are so hell bent on doing so, you are presented with numerous studies from psychologist, scientists, parents who've raised AWESOME kids without ever laying a hand on them and you fluff it off. I think you need to get off your high horse, ranting & so angry. At Robbyn? She makes you sick?? She's been very respectful? Don't get it. Of course anyone would support you on this board of pro-spanking moms. Why are you so angry that you "should" hit a kid? I'm angry you shouldn't, if that doesn't make sense to you, don't know what to say. A lot of people want to justify their shortcomings. I'd love to get through to even one or a few people, I enjoy sticking up for kids. Nothing bothers me more than people who hit their kids, or are cruel to animals. I know many parents who hit/spank are well-meaning, but it can go too far. I'm not so angry about a little pop on the butt, although I consider that pointless, I'm ANGRY at people who hit their kids with belts, spoons, cords, on the bum, bare bum...other really gross, humiliating, horrible things. How can anyone think this is okay???? I'll never get it. I'm sure you'll have angry rants against me, but that's what happens when you speak up. It's okay. Rant away if you choose.

Kristi - posted on 12/02/2012

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Tammy it has been repeatedly said on here by us what uncivilized trailer trash hicks that if you don't need to use spanking and your children are well behaved, respectable people then more power to you. No one ever said you're a bad parent if you don't spank. But there are so many self entitled, disrespectful, mean little bullies out there and their parents are just like we've tried time outs and taking away their toys but it's not working. Those are the parents we're suggesting to try spanking. I don't expect you to read through what some 1000+ comments to see that this has been stated more than once. So my suggestion is for you to go back to your trailer and do what works for your family when it comes to raising decent, respectable, polite children and get off your high horse because your perfect children who have never been spanked will act out just as any other kid and then people might call you the trailer trash.



Ladies, thank you for your support! It is always nice to get a fist pump and encouragement! ♥

Shell - posted on 12/01/2012

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*correction* "cha ching" meant "fist pumping" for my girl Kristi! I just couldn't think of a better way to put it at the time. Apparently someone has never seen a proper spanking. When done RIGHT it works. And my family growing up and NOW are both very civilized. Nobody in my family are in jail or on parole. And trust me a GOOD ASS WHOOPING has made me the proud person that I am today. I deserved every one. And they were not deadly or abusive. I needed them and I'm thankful for them. Again HI FIVE Kristi!!!

Tammy - posted on 11/30/2012

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Yeah, Okay, Kristi. LOL!!!! Just joking, but it's funny, you're swearing & going off & all. Made me laugh.



Robyn makes you sick? She's been nothing but courteous.



"cha ching"? Does this have something to do with money???



We have something in common, people who spank make me sick. I see no need for it & it's yuck! The only one I've ever seen do that was my trailer trash next door neighbor growing up. He literally lived in a trailer & they were warped, his kid ended up in jail & the other died of aids. The other time this hick threatened their kid with that when I was vacationing in Florida, but I just though "well, he's a hick, sad". I'm not used to spanking, we don't do that where I live, just being totally honest. My jaw would drop & I'd be horrified. Just doesn't happen, we're very civilized here. If you're civilized & do that, okay, I just can't comprehend. Never had to, never thought of it, almost never saw it. Just my personal experiences too.

Kristi - posted on 11/29/2012

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Pardon my language...



But Jesus Fucking Christ lady, how old do you think we are? I, for one, am 41 fucking years old! My parents are 62 and 60. My grandfather is 85. We are all "ok," in accordance with my answer to your question what does ok even mean. I have numerous friends, siblings and other aquiantences over the age of 21 who are "ok" and have been spanked. How much more " long term" experience, not fixed research, do you need?



My aggression, ie: my cursing, is a direct result of your continued harassment and attempts to incite anger. Well, you've finally succeeded with me. People like you make me sick. I'm done trying to intelligently and rationally explain our motivations and methods. Unlike your one track, two point statements, I offered real experiences, actual personal knowledge, several different presentations in hopes you might catch on. You repeated the same thing over and over... The research says, the research says and we're all violent. People like you make normally non-violent people like me go off the hook and it has NOTHING, NOTHING to do with my being spanked 30+ years ago!

User - posted on 11/29/2012

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For all the mothers that have decided that spanking works, based on short term results, check out what the researchers are telling us about the long-term effects that you can't immediately see.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...



or http://stopspanking.org/interviews/



It is a lot like smoking. The negative outcomes are just as consistent, and the negative outcomes occur later on. We have to trust the research! The risks are too great not to.

Kristi - posted on 11/28/2012

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Thanks ladies! I guess she just asked the magical question and the words just flowed. You all would have answered the same way!

Shell - posted on 11/28/2012

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Kristi C... I won't even waste much time here, I agree with you 100%, well said my dear!

Claire - posted on 11/28/2012

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Kristi,



Every time there is a challenge to our way of thinking on here, someone else does a hero post rebutting their theory and you just took my breath away. Couldn't have said it better myself.



Robbyn, throw your links around with swagger, I'll kick em to the curb unless they look like (the son of) mick jagger!



(Keesha, eatcha heart out. Not even I would touch that golden oldie).

Kristi - posted on 11/28/2012

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It means that we have positive, loving relationships with our parents and other family including our children. It means we have both self respect and respect for others. It means we are functioning members of society whether we work at McDonalds or own McDonalds. We can disagree or not get our way without resorting to Ultimate Fighting or trying to secede from the nation. We can negotiate with a toddler or a jumper. We can work and be a mom and a wife or we can be a single working mom or a stay at home mom who still works her butt off. We can be child advocates, child protective workers, therapists, doctors or on welfare. We can make good decisions. We can also make poor ones just like every other member of the human race. It means we are ok with who we are. We like the person we've become. That in and of itself is an accomplishment in today's high pressured world.



Are we all these just because we were spanked, no. But being spanked helped shape our foundation and was a building block to our success as a decent human being. Notice I said A block, as in one of many. As I have stated a zillion times, the large majority of us do not use spanking as our one and only form of discipline, nor did our parents and grandparents before us.



Go ahead and stack your studies with your criminals and ex foster children. Who, I will agree, some have been brutalized. But those are not who we are talking about. I'm sure many criminals were spanked. But just because they were spanked, IF they were spanked (we know how credible they are and how willing they are to accept responsibility for their actions...NOT) that does not turn them into a robber or a rapist. There is a lot more going on there than a few spanks for a temper tantrum in Target when he was 2. So, I will once again call your biased, inflammatory, so called research BUNK.



**please excuse errors as I'm on my cell and it is very difficult to proof**

User - posted on 11/27/2012

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People say, "I was spanked, and I turned out OK." What does that even mean?

Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdpTJ14IFr0

Kristi - posted on 11/19/2012

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Claire- How dare you disrespect and humiliate me by smacking me on my bum? You are a big, smelly bully! And I'm a lady. I deserve some flowers and dinner before I put out any of that kind of action anyways! LMAO!



Kristal- I agree, love and logic techniques can be very successful! It is important to have a full arsenal, forgive the term, when it comes to discipline because every child is different, every situation is different therefore a different response from the child and the need for several possible solutions to those responses. No one solution will work every time for ANY body, I don't care who ya are.



Oh and good luck getting the anti-spankers out of here. They think they are on a mission from whomever their higher power is. If the don't eradicate us, they will have failed their mission and will be banished from the eternal gift of self righteousness.

Claire - posted on 11/19/2012

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Yah, if we used a smack like they THINK we do, our babies would never come near us!



Hell, mine even badger me on the dunny. And that is a really horrible place to meet with me and the farty gallbladder....

They do tend to run once that door's opened, though!

Kristal - posted on 11/19/2012

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OMG!!! Well ive been off for a week or so.. Well Robbyn do u not understand u are not helping anyone here???? These mothers on here are pro-spanking and are on here because we use spanking as part of our discpline routine.. What is so hard to understand??

Studies just showed that pregnent women shoudnt use cell phones. why dont u go on a pregant womens site and badger them???? If you have very passonate about this great but obviously it is not helping here???

Claire--u crack me up!!! I too dont understand what non spankers think we really do.. I havent spanked my kids for guite a while and I dont just spank them for every little offense.. MY kids get time outs and I also use love and logic which by the way works well for the older ones..

Claire - posted on 11/19/2012

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That's just not good enough, Kristi. Smack! :):)



Oh, smack me! I forgot to latch the sheep gate! Out I go to smack them out of the house paddock. And I'm gonna smack the gate, too. How VERY dare you, d-latch, staying open when you ought be shut!



Geez I'm puerile sometimes.. LIKE!!

Kristi - posted on 11/18/2012

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***correction

I just had a chance to reread my comment and I see in my first paragraph I said how "effective" and I meant " ineffective" and I left out damaging. That's what I get for being in a hurry.

Kristi - posted on 11/18/2012

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This is going to be a quickie...



There might be hundreds and hundreds of studies about how spanking your child is effective discipline. There are just hundreds of years of successful, respectable, non violent, grown people who have good mental health and a perfectly fine relationship with their parents.



You act like all we do is run around smack our kids. Oh- she rolled her eyes- smack! Oh shit, I stubbed my toe, it has to be her fault some how-smack! She got an A instead of an A+ - smack! She forgot to put her dirty clothes in the hamper- smack!



For people who use spanking as part of their discipline technique and use it properly, none of the above would EVER warrant a spanking. Spanking is not our first and only method of discipline. If it were, it would become ineffective almost instantly.



Ooops! Out of time for now! Hi Claire!

Claire - posted on 11/18/2012

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Robert,



I am spanked AND loved hehe. Seriously, like so many other parents on here, I don't/ didn't/ wouldn't associate my parents with the opposite or negative feelings just because they spanked me as a child.



Robbyn,



Well, no one is making a non smack person stay on this thread, so don't let the door smack you on the way out! :):)

I have no comfort in that there are so many non smack people who wish to stay on a thread that is the very antithesis of their opinion!

What is with that??

Barbara - posted on 11/17/2012

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Why would you hit your children, its like torture!! They need love! Hurting children is no way to teach them anything.

User - posted on 11/17/2012

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It is fiction that hitting, spanking, popping, lightly smacking children teaches respect and keeps them out of trouble. To say that you can raise children to be non-violent by using subtle forms of violence is unfounded. There is no research to support this. Parents who spank often do not want to believe the research, because it flies in the face of their experience that they are able to control children's behavior with it. But really, the research shows that spanking toddlers works no better than saying "no no." The idea that spanking prevents disrespectful behavior is not borne out by the evidence. The juvenile justice system is full of spanked, smacked, paddled children. You would be hard pressed to find a child in the system that was parented with "attachment parenting." Yes, you may find some who were neglected by passive parenting, but that is also destructive. It isn't a choice between spanking and being passive. It is a choice between using control and power to help children control their impulses, and using logic, love, and reason to help them develop the capacity to use logic, love and reason.



It is no comfort to me to see that there are so many parents that hit their children.

Kellie - posted on 11/15/2012

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I have just read through the post that i think probably sparked you asking this!!!

I have 3 children.

I agree with giving them a tap and i also agree with other comments made!

my parents, grandparents and great grand parents all grew up with a smack and are all fine non violent people.

I would only ever tap the hand or top of the leg on my 2 yr old and the bums of my older children.

I would also like to point out that i can prob count on 1 hand how many they have had in a year i believe this is because they have been taught well right and wrong and a good old fashioned smack never killed anyone!

Shell - posted on 11/15/2012

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I am also PRO-spanking! Although like you, I've heard the same crap from other folks that it's bad (even those who spanked their own kids!!) I'm so happy to see so many women who feel the same way. Today's youth is..... entitled and bratty. I'm going to do my best NOT to contribute to that! My child gets in trouble at school... more trouble at home, I will not be calling the principal/teacher and raising hell!!

User - posted on 11/15/2012

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CountryMomof2,

Popping your child in the mouth is so disrespectful. How would you feel if I popped you in the mouth? It is the same thing! Your son has the same basic needs for respect as you do. The only reason you think this is OK, is somebody did it to you when you were young, and has desensitized you to how incredibly disrespectful that behavior is.

Robbyn

FoxyMom - posted on 11/15/2012

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I"m pro spanking as well. I got on to my son early in life so a little pop got his attention and when he knew I meant business he behaved. He is 9 now and I haven't had to get a hold of him for a very long time. I believe if you discipline at an early age that you won't have to discipline as much as they grow older becuase they learn the right behavior and grow up that way. Everyone always asks me how I raised such a nice rescetable young man to which I answer I disciplined him. Everynow and then he gets a bit of a mouth on him to which I take two fingers and pop his mouth to remind him I'm not taking any of it. Have I ever beat him? No...left marks? no But I did get his attention.

Laura - posted on 11/12/2012

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Because they are scared, I am surprised at how many people are pro-spanking. Its terrible.The child didn't have a choice about being brought into this world it was your choice. So then when they are tired, confused, hungry or so many other emotions that they are learning because you don't get them to act or say the way you want them to they are subject to pain and humiliation. Great parenting, like I said shame on you for thinking its ok to spank.

Claire - posted on 11/11/2012

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Wanda,

I know exactly what you mean!





Aha! I was waiting for it, Robbyn!



I find it interesting and important that 90% of non smack people on here were borderline or bona fide abuse cases when growing up.



To me, using a belt is hardcore; I was never raised with that (we had the wooden spoon, which I see as okay. When I do smack, I don't use one myself, though, and it's illegal in Aus to use anything but a bare hand). When I say hardcore, I mean it could be abusive.



But let's give Marissa the benefit of the doubt. We don't know how her punishment is implemented, for what reasons or the child's temperament. Some children respond well to a physical punishment, others don't, Some children prefer time out. Others are a combination.



I don't think you can condemn belts or spoons because you don't see how it has been employed by the parent. I think one -hand- smack at a time is enough, so I would see a single use of these items as possibly okay.

What I don't believe is a corrective measure is repeated smacking, smacking for every infringement or without warning and explaining to the child why a smack will be/ was used. But these are just my opinions on the subject, MY code. Marissa didn't write in a flippant manner, so I'M GUESSING she considers what she is doing before committing to the punishment she uses.



Robbyn, there are soooo many studies. Promulgating this idea, that train of thought...



I think the studies of the effect of long term pollution on the developing brain is the MOST pressing and of most importance. Globally, our children are growing up with more carcinogens than any other generation and that is so unacceptable.

If you believe the conspiracists, Henry Kissinger did indeed get his way.



What about that train of thought? Do you champion pollutant studies, as well? If no, why on earth not? Wouldn't physical health be up there with mental health?



What about studies on fatty food, the enzyme Acrillamide (forgive misspelling, if I have), violent toys, video games, drugs in utero, parental mental health issues, bullying and socio- economic demographics?



All these have impact on society and our children. If you support one, promote all, because they are all inherently connected on a respective scale.

Robbyn Peters - posted on 11/11/2012

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Marissa,



It works well, you think, and perhaps in some short term sense. Before you stand firmly in that belief, you might want to check out the research on the long term effects that you cannot readily see. There are serious risks associated with spanking, and using implements only increases that risk exponentially. In fact, there are studies showing differences in the actual brain between children who are not spanked at all, and children who are spanked using implements such as a belt.



My grandmother used a switch, my mother her hand and a belt. They didn't know better. My mom is against spanking of any kind now. It was a different era when mothers didn't know about the negative effects that spanking has on the development of the vulnerable brain of the child.



www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896871/



Of course I'm only sharing one study here, but there are hundreds and hundreds of studies that show the negative long term outcomes correlated to spanking. Why risk it?



For more information, read www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896871/



I suggest that you support this form of discipline, because this is what you have learned from your own upbringing and the parenting practices of those around you. There are better, safer alternatives. Think of it this way, expert animal trainers don't use corporal punishment anymore. It was the norm with horse trainers years ago, but any animal trainer worth their gold does not hit animals, because it damages the bond, that natural pack animal instinct and makes the animal more afraid, aggressive, and irritable. It is the same with children. They fear you, and at a great cost to the loving bond. Yes, there is still love, but now there is confusion between love and pain.

Marissa - posted on 11/11/2012

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I'm a 28 yo mom of two and my children are very well respected because I take the time to correct bad behavior by means of a belt. I was spanked growing up and I will carry on the tradition. It works well.

Wanda - posted on 11/10/2012

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i am the grand mother of a 3 year old and i definitely believe in spanking if necessary.My parents did when i was a kid and i turned out an honest caring person,.My grand daughter is being hateful to people we meet and also to me.her dad is usually the one that spanks her she listens to him.any more advice?

DANCEY - posted on 11/07/2012

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No, not pro spanking. I agree with a smack to the hand or bottom if a child is putting themselves in danger...touching flame, running across a road, something like that, but never prolonged spanking. For me it is a last resort, I never want to humiliate my children and it seems to be a possible by product so I m taking no chances! :) Mine are nearly grown up now so I think if I tried they'd chase ME round the garden for it, one of them is a twenty year old 6ft girl!

Kristal - posted on 11/06/2012

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Claire I love reading your posts..They are so informative and be honest some of the words you use I have to look up:))) I totally think that same way, I dont think people realize how the more we change things the farther we are from our traditonal cultures and the way we discpline our children is acturally a large part of many cultures:)))

Kristi you were far from cowardous actually like others have said it takes a strong and smart person to do that. Anyone can go in their and confront that mother with guns blazing when your upset and cause more of a problem, what you did was the right thing for that mother and child..

Claire - posted on 11/06/2012

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Jackie,



Agree with Kristi, toots! That is the kind of thing we all need to step up to stop. You were far from being a coward.



Kristi,



Yah, a bit of a digression, but as I extemporized, I thought! Where would that leave traditions?



Actually it's a convoluted piece with only a tad of relevance, but hey, I'm up at 4am putting together a costume, consuming far too much Pepsi and will need a strong sense of humour and iron will to get through the next 18hrs. What's a bit of hypothesis on top of that?? :):)

Kristi - posted on 11/06/2012

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That's totally interesting, Claire! Thanks for sharing!



Jackie--the LAST thing you are is a coward! You never know what else that woman was capable of and most people would have turned a blinds eye.

Claire - posted on 11/06/2012

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Geez Louise, I missed so many posts!



Gail, Katiss, Linda,



I hear you, sisters!



Kristal,



You know how I feel about that four letter word, 'studies', don't ya! :):):)



Cheryl,



Thanks for sharing the link. Will be sure to follow another time. (When I'm not baling hay, preparing for bushfire season, wiping bums, washing, cooking, driving, lol).



Kimberlee,



Aye, many have joined Sweden. I am Swedish, and the last time I was there, I had a bad experience when a group of young men surrounded my daughter and I down an alley in Malmo. I was overjoyed when an old lady came out with her broom and smacked them on the bum to shoo them away! Sverige still has high rates of child abuse and rape. Yep, it turned them into a genteel society overnight. This is in contrast with the huge amounts of money the authorities use trying to stem child abuse or corporal punishment.

Just don't forget that this is a country where being bat shit stupid is the norm.

Also, Sudan may have been the latest to join the non smack nations, but both the north and south still have child soldiers and high rates of child rape. And they worry about a smack?



Robbyn,



I concur with Kristal. How can you criticise something when you don't see it firsthand? Parenting has a lot of mitigating factors.



Bear in mind that when Kristal says it's been a social practice for donkey's, the Aborigines have a 60,000 year old culture.

Where would non smack legis leave ancient cultures?

Anecdotely, note that an Aboriginal elder was once asked by a Native American, why they didn't develop this or that? The elder replied that it was not in the Dreaming.

I must elaborate here.

Dreaming to Ab-origines (From- The First, their name means) is an inherent part of each being, community, other tribes and connection to the earth. Even though I have only a smidge of the blood, I wish I could convey the indelible link between everything.

It's a high form of existentialism and in contrast, some tribes will still spear a boy through the leg for looking at the wrong girl.

Dreaming is Law.

An elder may change the Dreaming of a tribe, but in 60,000 plus years they have never Dreamed that a smack or physical punishment is bad. It is up to the elders to look after the community in a social way and Dreaming assists this. This country is hard, damn hard and I realise you wont to fully grok what that means, or what a change means to their community order.

White people have changed much of their values and ways already. And boy, that has screwed up their system A LOT. To remove the traditions around punishment would further erode their culture.

Should their traditions be changed to suit Western studies that reflect modern ideas?



Ideas that are only 40 years old?



**Please note that the Australian Government has a quiet policy of leaving an abused Aboriginal child in the abuser's custody, as they don't want to be seen as 'stealing the children' (since late 90's). In the 40's-60's, well meaning stupid white people thought that some children were being abused, being treated traditionally, living in community camps. So they took them and tried to raise them 'white people way' .

The 'Stolen Generatiion' has a lot of addiction, physical violence, mental health issues and passed all that along to the next gen. The traditional people I refer to are in the remote areas- the Crocodile people of NthWestern Australia, Central Australia (not the 'townies' in Alice) and Arnhem Land people around east Darwin to Cairns in Queensland.



We modern people could learn so much from them.

Kristal - posted on 11/05/2012

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Kimberlee was all do things that we tell our children not to do.. I have spanked my son since he was 2 I no longer spank him since hes 13 now but he has never hit anyone,.He was bulled in school and I told him to punch the kid. He solved it his own way without violence and now they are good friends.

Kristal - posted on 11/05/2012

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Jackie I too think you did the right thing.. THat mother was definelty abusing her child and she needed an intervention as did the child.. Thank you Jackie for being so respectful and I wish u luck with you daughter..

Kimberlee its funny that u say that but spanking a child as a form of disclipline has been around alot longer than one or two generations.. I am right their with u Kristi.. Most of the mothers on here I have read a couple comments were I was thinking that is way over the top bordering on child abuse but for the majority of the mothers on here there is no abuse or violence involved in the spankings their children are recieving..

**Jackie** - posted on 11/05/2012

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Me too. I felt like a coward for calling the police and not confronting her but I realized I couldn't do anything more than a cop could do.



Anyway, I guess I'll get back to you when my daughter reaches the peak of her terrible 2's and tell you how I handle her lol wish me luck!

Kristi - posted on 11/05/2012

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You are very right Jackie. That's why I try to be careful not to make generalizations like all Republicans are anti-choice or all Muslims are terrorists. Stuff like that is inaccurate and unfair to say the least. Sadly, there will always be child abuse. It is already illegal and it hasn't stopped it from happening. It's not just physical abuse but there is neglect, emotional, psychological and probably worst of all, sexual abuse. Outlawing spanking, the kind of spanking the majority of us use here, is not going change the real abuse children suffer everyday.



It took a lot of courage to call the police on that woman. It sure sounds like you did the right thing to me. I hope she got what she deserved.

**Jackie** - posted on 11/05/2012

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As a non-spanker, I can totally understand and respect where you are coming from, Kristi. Let me just say my daughter is not even 2 yet, so no I do not spank her. Will I in the future? I hope she doesn't give me a reason to, but it wouldn't be fair for me to say never.





It only takes one spanker to give all spankers a bad name. I have witnessed a mother repeatedly strike her child's bottom. I obviously wasn't there for the whole conversation, and for all I know he could have been given 15 warnings but he was playing with something (and I forget what it was) and wouldn't put it back so his mom ripped it pretty forcibly out of his hands and then just kept hitting him. I mean he was screaming and I could hear the smacks.



I tried so hard to stay out of it but I decided to call the police. I mean this child was screaming and crying in pain and she just wouldn't let up. I was so upset I broke down on the phone with the dispatcher. I don't know what happened, because all I wanted to do was go home and hug my child but I really hope she got a wake up call.



So having said all of that, I do realize that most spanking moms don't beat their children, but it only takes one out of control mom to give them a bad name.

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Well, if I may point out this is was not a thread opened for debate until you passive-aggressive extremists came in here to condemn traditional parents, who, if you'll notice have not condemned your way of parenting. (At least very few out of 1066 comments are saying that) The majority of us barbarians think it's great if you've found other ways to discipline your children without spanking providing they aren't part of the self entitled, spoiled, you can't touch me, disrespectful crowd of kids we are seeing more and more of today.



What you seem to want to overlook is that we don't just run around beating the shit out of our kids, as you would say, every time they roll their eyes at us. I don't know why you people are even in here but to cause problems. You certainly won't get me to even take you seriously when all you do is attack us and throw out extreme phrases not even close to how we "spank."

Kimberlee - posted on 11/05/2012

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Children do have a right to grow up free from violence .Spanking is corporal punishment , it's violent .How do you tell a child not to hit others while you're hitting them? It's not logical. How do you tell a child you'll always love them and keep them safe while you are the one hitting them?



In the 50's and 60's parents said the same things about children being brought up then . Every generation seems to think the next round of kids are out of control and worse. It makes me laugh , that people even use this in a debate.

Kristal - posted on 11/04/2012

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RObbyn, I have read ur other posts on here and alot of them had said as well as other non spankers how horrible people who spank are, uneducated, lazy, dont care or want to learn other techniques. Im sorry in the 40, 50's, and so on when people were spanked and before all this postive parentiing, dont spank ur kids bussiness..Our nation was a very diffrent place.,. I dont belive that spanking has led to a violent nation.. Look at the other things that have happended to families. For instance mothers now work out of the home and have to in order to help support a family. Children are bombarded by violent shows, video games, etc....Their are many single parent homes where children dont grow up with a father figure, their is alot of drugs now in schools, peoples diets even are diffrent the world is differnt. People are not respectful, children have a very strong sense of entitlement that is wrong..GOne are the days of working hard for what u want and respecting your elders.. Of knowing ur boundaries and understanding how the world works.. Im sorry I know many people that are elderly that I talk to at work and I ask them. DId u spank ur children and the vast majority say yes.. Their children are well off educated individuals.. SO childern that were not spanked and grow up to be wonderful in ur eyes its all becuase they werent spanked??? That is absurd.. And you are correct to say everyone deserves their basic rights.. But, a parent giving a child a swat on the butt for misbehaving is not taking away their human rights. its a discplinary measure and a teaching tool.. So when yo dont pay for ur car and it gets impounded are u going to say ur enfringing on my human right to own property,, no and when ur child is abad and u take away a toy ur infringing on their rights of free speech and do as they please.. When does it end it dosent..As parents our jobs is to teach our children to be functioning members of a society and functioning adults.. I dont believe in spaking older children than 10 nor for everything, but my children knew when they had crossed the line and they very seldom ever did that... and I always love and talk to my kids after the got swatted and we talked about why that happended.. I think any disclpline can violate ur childs rights so its the way its carried out and how ur child percieves it..

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Loved your post Linda, just goes to show that you can have a bunch of kids and they can all be different. What works for one won't work for 10! lol

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I am a pro spanking mom however I have limits and rules that help the situation stay under control. I give my children a warning the 123 but I never back down, I am consistent, if I get to three they get a spanking; most of the time by the time I get to 2 they have complied. I have a three lick rule that I don’t break regardless of the offense and it helps me keep a line drawn so I know I am disciplining not abusing my children. I have to admit I struggled with this in the beginning with my first child. When he was three he had hit his little sister in the head with a toy and I popped his butt and told him not to hit her. He looked at me and said, "Mommy you are not supposed to hit people." So I cringed...Was I reinforcing the behavior by spanking him? But as time went on I realized that there are times when spanking is needed to show I mean business. I am now a single mother of four and am proud to say my kids are well behaved. I use spanking when it is needed but I am not reluctant when it is.

Gina - posted on 06/09/2010

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YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. I am a pro spanking mom. I was spanked and I'm still alive, smart, happy and healthy. me and my kids' fathers have very bad tempers and are very stubborn and it really comes out in the kids to. and as a single mom of 3 who also babysits 4 other kids and all of them range from 1 to 6 years of age I need them to know that I am boss. I only spank my own but it shows the other that I do mean business and not to mess with me. As long as the line between discipline and abuse isn't crossed spank away.

Nareeda - posted on 06/07/2010

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i am a pro spanking mom, i am a single 23 yr old with 3 kids (2 boys nearly 6&7 1 girl 3) and i think if i didn't spank my child when they deserved it then my house would be a horrible place to live. the other day i was at the shops and my daughter threw a temper tantrum and through herself on the floor, i gave her to the count of 3 to get up and hold my hand or i was going to smack her bottom, i ended up having to smack her and i was abused by a lady telling me i was a horrible mother, yet on the other hand praised by an elderly lady saying it was good to see young mothers disciplining their children.. so i say "YES"

Jen - posted on 06/05/2010

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I am a pro spanking mom as well. I'm a single mother of two. I've got a 2 year old daughter who gets spanked when she needs to be. She knows when she does wrong so she needs a form of punishment that will show her that she's not in control and it will also keep her out of harms way. My other daughter is only 5 monthes so she has a while before she gets that sort of punishment. I'm glad that I'm not the only one out there that is a pro spanking mom. lol

Rotacha - posted on 05/20/2010

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Definetly a pro spanking mom!! It's biblical!! The bible says "spare the rod and spoil the child", now that doesn't mean beat your child til their near death (lol). My daughter is 10 now, but when she was a toddler I definetly popped her hands, or legs when she got out of control or disobeyed. Again I have to reference the bible, "Train up a child in the way he shall go, and when he is. old he shall not depart from it." With that said, I have spanked her in years. Now, all I have to do is raise my voice or use a certain tone and she gets right in line.

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I'm definitely a pro spanking mom. My girls got it more than a few times when they were young, first with my hand and as they got older and still acted up the belt was used to teach them a lesson. Sure helped! they are happy and healthy young ladies now.

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Hello!! Thank GOD you all are pro spanking moms as well. Kids today have no respect for authority and they are getting away with way too much. I have heard too many arguments that it hurts their self esteem but I don't agree. I was spanked (a lot) and my self esteem is fine. I spank my son when needed but I am honestly afraid to do so because people get too nosy and all it takes is one phone call. My son knows at home anything goes but out in public I am more reserved.

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