How can I get an ODD diagnosis

Jeanie - posted on 08/22/2009 ( 7 moms have responded )

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My 7yr old son has ADHD. He is on Ritalin. The meds help him calm down and focus. I have read up on ODD and so many of the symptoms fit. Everything with him is a battle. He has angry outbursts. The only way to deal with the outbursts is to ignore him. He will sit there angry until he calms down and then he comes to me crying and saying he's sorry. I know he can't help the anger he feels, but it's hard to remember that in the heat of the moment. My other son has down syndrome. My husband and other family members have so much patience with him because he is different. The 7 yr old looks and functions normal so they don't there is a disability there. I am so frustrated with people telling me he has behavior problems because of lack of disipline. It's not that, he really can't control himself when he gets like this. He doesn't want to have to have these outbursts.

Can anyone tell me how to get him diagnosed with ODD and what I can do to help him.

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Brandy - posted on 09/04/2009

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im so glad to hear other moms talk about this... my son is 9 and he is the same way... we have him on concerta 27 mg... before he takes his meds in the morning it takes us forever to get him to take it... he gets mad and starts screaming and laughing... homework takes forever if u dont get it in before the meds wear off.. and after the pill wears off ... if u even look at him and he dont like it he goes off the handle... he will yell at u call u names and kick and scream.. the new thing is he says well u dont love me or care about me... i feel so bad ... i have to yell at him, and i feel bad ... after i let him cool off i go in and tell him how much i love him and that he shouldnt do those things cause its not nice and it herts ppl's feelings... and he says i know im sorry... and he dont even know why he does it... so i was wondering too if he had ODD or bi polar disorder. i want to take him to mental health to get tested by them ... but they scare me for some reason...... how does the mental health thing work...

Jeanie - posted on 08/26/2009

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Hi Tanya,

It's nice to know there are kids out there like mine. My son is very kind hearted as well. But, like yours, when he loses his temper there is nothing we can do. No matter what we try, it only makes him worse. The only thing to do is leave him alone til he cools off. As far as homework, I understand the draining part. My son likes it when I read to him so I promise to read to him when he finishes his homework. Then I follow thru. Even with that though it takes us 3 times longer to do the homework then it does a normal child. How old is your son? Maybe I can think of something age appropriate that you can try. I am definatly going to get him into a specialist to get him diagnosed. I will pass along any advice I can think of that may help.

Tanya - posted on 08/26/2009

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Hi Jeanie,

I know exactly what you are going through. My son has A.D.D. and O.D.D. He does the same thing as your son. He will have an exposive temper tantrum (mostly hitting the floor and being loud) and then when he calms down, he takes it upon himself to come and apologize and tells me that he doesn't like it when he loses his temper like that. He is so kind hearted and cares about everyones feelings but when he gets in his modes, you better watch out. He will argue about anything with you. He is a ver strong willed child so we tend to butt heads alot. Also, homework time is so draining. I have to constantly try to get him back on task. If you have any advice with homework time please let me know. He is currently on methylphenid(ritalin). right now. When he comes off of it, he is a bear. I would definately go with the advice of the other readers and take him to a specialist to get him diagnosed. If you get any good advice please pass it along.

Felicia - posted on 08/25/2009

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After going through many medications, which only seemed to work for 2-3 months, my pediatrician recommended we see a psycharitrist to determine any underlaying issues. They did several test over the summer and he was then diagnosed with a mild form of ODD yesterday. Next week, we will have an appointment to determine the best medication.

Over the summer he was on a patch called Daytrana, but he hates it.

Jeanie - posted on 08/24/2009

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Thank you both. In Kinderarden he had to take anger management and had ISS twice. It has gotten better at school though. I have noticed that he gets very angry and hostile when his Ritalin wears off. Evenings are terrible. We tried switching to a extended release Ritalin, but went back within a month. The meds were wearing off during school. I live in an area that doesn't have alot of mental health professionals. I will find one an get him an appt. I didn't do it sooner because his dad doesn't think there is anything wrong with him. He won't even medicate him when he goes for visits. Dealing with him isn't easy. But, for the sake of my son I will suck it up and deal with him.

It is difficult to deal with knowing your child can't help his behavior and having others judge you because of it.

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Jeanie, Kim is right....you need to schedule an appt with the psychiatrist and discuss it with him/her. ODD is something dealt with, within the mental health dept of a medical plan. The school may be able to do some testing, but frankly I would not trust a school district to tell me if my child has something like ODD.

As you may have read, most kids with ADHD tend to have underlying issues. For instance, my son was diagnosed with anxiety disorder when he was in 7th grade. I wish we had gotten that sooner because it would have solved alot of emotional stuff he went through when his sister graduated from elementary school to middle school. He literally showed separation anxiety when his sister was no longer at school with him.

Not sure how ritalin works for your little guy, but my son suffered from a lot of highs and lows on ritalin. He had deep peaks and valleys and when the ritalin would beginto wear off he would become hostile, mean and extremely angery and violent. We then changed to Concerta but after awhile he showed signs of bi polar disorder because the dosage was to high. We tried all the ADHD meds out there, and finally found one that works well for him, all the kids metabolise these meds differently. My son is on Adderal XR (extended release), it doesn't affect his appetite and it lasts most of the school day, he also takes risperdal for his anxiety.

Kimberly - posted on 08/23/2009

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We got a diagnosis of ADHD and ODD from my sons physciatist when he was 3 1/2 because he had such severe outburst. He takes a medicine called Clonidine and it has ben a life saver for us. You can also talk to the school about testing him because in most cases if it is affecting him at home it is affecting him at school. If it affects his education they have to help you take care of it. Through free testing and assistance. If you have any more questions please respond back I will try to help as much as I can. It is not fun to deal with and many people do not understand it until they have dealt with it. I wish you the best of luck.

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