Switched from Adderall to Strattera

Shauna - posted on 04/20/2012 ( 3 moms have responded )

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I have an 8 yr old boy who has been diagnosed w/ADHD since he was 5. He was on 5mg of Adderall for about 2 yrs. The adderall was working great for him up until this year which he is now in his second semester of 2nd grade. We moved down the street so he was moved to a new school just down the street from his old school. I don't know what's gotten into him lately but he has done a complete 360. He's all of a sudden hard to deal with, argumentative about absolutely everything, and he's been having emotional meltdowns lately too. One situation at school happened recently....he has this crush on a little girl in his class, but i don't think this girl even looks twice at him unless hes acting a fool and causing other kids too look and laugh at him, but anyway, he's made a comment to her about wanting to marry her, gave her a ring during recess and even tried to kiss her on the hand. well school called me and we had a meeting. i explained to him about how and why it was inappropriate behavior for an 8 yr old and so on. well then he continues to talk to this girl and says something to the affect of seeing her naked...school called again, had another meeting so i then had to teach him about sexual harrassment and let him know how serious that is in the adult world i.e jail etc. He ended up getting suspended for a day b/c of these incidences and b/c he obviously doesn't get the hint to leave this little girl alone. i was against the whole suspension thing i didin't think it was THAT serious but whatever. so then, he gets mad one day b/c this girl has 3 other boys in their class that kind of act like her security i guess??? but these boys wouldn't let my son anywhere near her one day when he wanted to go talk to her during recess and he goes and tells everyone that he's gonna bring a gun to school and kill everyone but her. OMG i was in shock!!! he is not a violent child what-so-ever, but this to me was serious. so they brought a police officer in the next day to talk to him but i also took it upon myself to show him pics and read him the story of the Columbine shootings. i just want him to understand that this is serious and not to say or do things that he doesn't mean b/c ppl don't take things like that lightly. i just want him to understand consequences most of all. So lately, at school if he gets sent in the hall for behavior or not doing his schoolwork, when it's time to come back in class he will refuse to come back in. the teacher says he has kind of a meltdown as if it's the worst thing in the world and he can't get over the fact that he was sent out in the hall. i think it's more like he's embarrassed and ashamed and now b/c he was sent out in the hall when he comes back in everyone's gonna look at him and talk about him when he comes back in....i really think it's more bc of embarrassment. but at home when he's playing out side with other kids i'm noticing b/c my daughter comes in telling on him, that my son is either being mean to the other kids like throwing rocks or kicking or hitting...which this is NOT normal behavior for him AT ALL!!! He normally never had issues with playing nice with other kids...so why NOW all of a sudden???? so i took him back to the doctor, and oh yeah, i forgot to mention that this year i upped his adderall to 10mg b/c his teacher was saying that after lunch he was having a hard time focusing for the remainder of the day...so he's been on the 10mg for about 6 months now. so now, i take him back to the doc and tell him about these changes in behavior and issues at school, how he's arguementative with me and how he has meltdowns at school and all that. well only from talking to a pharmacist, it was suggested to put him on a non-stimulant b/c that may be the cause of some of the aggression. soooo, it sounded good to me and i could def understand how that could be the issue (which by the way, from my experiences i trust a pharmacist sometimes more then i trust a doc only b/c they specialize in medicine) so i suggested to his doc that he be switched to a non-stimilant, so we did, and he's been on strattera for only 2 days now but i've cut out the adderall and what do u know....i get a phone call from his teacher today (only day 2) asking if he's been taking his meds b/c he's been all over the place the past 2 days, and she cannot get him to focus as far as getting past writing his name at the top of his papers. so i'm like...ohhhh great....NOW WHAT???? anyone have ANY advise or similar experiences plz plzz plzzzzz let me know...i'm at a loss for what to do next. i've been reading a lot and the only thing i can come up with is to keep him on the adderall for about a month along with the strattera so by then the strattera will have some affect. then try to take him off the adderall. i just can't afford him getting kicked out of school so close to the end of the school year just b/c i need a few weeks for the meds to take affect...i don't have a few weeks is the way i look at it, and i really don't wanna do that to his teacher bc i know what a handful he can be, and then i feel guilty about taking time away from other students that actually WANT to learn so....as u can see i'm lost as to what to do next. i have an appt to have a psych evaluation done but that's not for 2 more weeks and even after that it won't be for another 4-6 weeks that he's even seen again for therapy or whatever....reason being i have limited resources as far as psychiatrists i can take him to bc he's on medicaid and not all docs take medicaid and the ones that do that i've tried calling aren't taking new patients so this is the ONLY doc that i can even get him into....sorry, i know this is A LOT to take in lol...but at this point i'm stressed out and desperate for an answer or some kind of help....again, any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! and sorry if any of this doesn't make sense or seems jumbled lol...my thoughts were just pouring out and my son keeps sitting down next to me being nosey b/c he's dying to get on my computer lol

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Lia - posted on 04/07/2013

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Aaugh! I have an eight year old son also with ADHD and some other issues. I just wanted to tell you I feel your pain. These decisions are not easy. You sound like you're doing everything you can and should be doing for him. My son started on Adderall. The same thing happened to him. He is now on Ritalin which had been helping with manners, personality and temper but didn't help him focus so much in school. Our problem now is he is having hallucinations they think maybe due to the Ritalin. I hope it is not that because he is barely functional at school without that but he has been off of it a few days now. He does fine at home but boundaries, transitions, relationships and focusing is very challenging at school. We saw a child psychiatrist a couple of weeks ago that wanted to put him on Risperdal an antipsychotic. It really scared me. I am not ready to do that without even a diagnosis for why. There is a lot of pressure to do what these drs say from them and the referring drs. But, we have to do what we think is right for our children as they are not emotionally vested in their lives as we are and they won't be there years down the road when we're living with the effects of these meds. I think besides prayer one of the smarted things you can do is read up on reputable sites about these meds. They could have lasting effects that may not show up until years later. You are his greatest and sometimes only advocate. So, we go tomorrow for a second opinion to another child psychiatrist. I hope he has some fresh ideas. I really understand the helplessness and pain that years of these same problems can cause. One more thing; have you ever asked if your son may have some features of aspergers as understanding what kids say and facial expressions are not as clear as they are in children without it. My son was dxd with non verbal learning disorder. He is very verbal but be doesn't take social cues well like when kids want boundaries or when they are not laughing at his jokes. I just thought it sounds like your son may have some of those issues. The hard thing about that if he does have some features of this is that he does not mean to do these things but possibly does not know how to express himself well and may be wondering what he did wrong. So, there are a lot more misunderstandings and no one wants to give these kids that have these issues the benefit of the doubt. They still need firm limits and support but mercy and a soft place to fall as well and school can be a cold challenging place for them. I will pray for you and your son. God be with you. Lia

Tabitha - posted on 04/27/2012

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i have been through similar things with my son....... spankings do not work well on children like this......it does for others that do not have adhd.. i have been through the spankings... you are going to have to make sure you are up before him and you need to keep him in your sight at all times. i had to do it.. let your son know what he has done is wrong.they still needs consequences for their actions.let him know that you do not trust him.. you cannot treat him like he is normal cause because he really is not..i tried treating isaiah normal and it always backed fired on me.. i would get him off the stimulants..your mom is going to have to shut down her puter at night so that will stop him from getting on it.. i have my puter set up to where it requires apassword to get it up and running..if he knows the password change it.keep him under constant watch.. iknow it sounds like alot but for know you need to.take away privilages.. if he likes to watch tv take it away.take away his favorite toys.. it might not seem like it is changing his behavior cause there are times i feel like it doesn't work but they still need that..right now my son is grounded from tv, playing w/ his and going out side because of his mouth and his grades slipped and some other things but i bascially told him that he would be grounded for the whole summer. h e would go to his grandmother's while we go out and do things.. i still encourage you to join a support group in your area.also if you can get a break from him... i know as mother's that is hard b/c i hardly get one but if you can do it..hope this helps

Shauna - posted on 04/22/2012

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PLZZZZZ HELP!!!! I KNOW THIS IS A LOOOOOONG POST, BUT I'M DESPERATE FOR SOME ADVICE ON THIS ISSUE, SO IF ANYONE COULD TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL OF THIS I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT....THANK U :)

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