Ethnicity

Bethania - posted on 11/25/2008 ( 51 moms have responded )

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What do you put on the ethnicity part of an application with a chid that is half white, and half latino?

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Jen - posted on 12/31/2008

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Well my daughter is a quarter Filipino and the rest white but I'm half Filipino half Irish so I know when I had to check one off I always put Pacific Islander or Asian because I look well...Filipino. My little girl will put white or multi racial.

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Iris - posted on 01/27/2009

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Last time I did this I checked other and wrote Human next to it.  My dd's are 1/2 white 1/2 black but I didn't see what that had to do with anything ...

Denise - posted on 01/27/2009

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I am multi racial. I am 1/2 hispanic and 1/2 German my last name is German but I have always put that I am Hispanic, that is the side I have always connected with more. My daughter is multi racial as well and put her as black. 

JohnNadine - posted on 01/26/2009

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Hey I'm Hispanic and white When I fill things out that have ur race I check white and Hispanic. I look more Hispanic then white. My son looks more white then Hispanic and I get comments like is he ur baby b/c he doesn't look like he's Latino and it makes me very upset that someone would be that mean to say to a mother that doesn't care what he looks like just that he's her son and that she loves him. People can be so mean at times. I'm going to love my son no matter what color he is or what he becomes when he gets older. He's the most important thing in my life and that will never change b/c of what he looks like.

Cassandra - posted on 01/25/2009

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I'm half white and half hispanic and I always mark hispanic because that's what my dad is, that was my last name, and that's how I was raised and it's the culture that I know. I'm so glad they're starting to get rid of the ethnicity box, it's too confusing for people now because most everyone in America is mixed.

My poor daughter lol! She is half native american and the other half white/hispanic. We just say she's native american because she's registered with the tribe and because of her name.

Nicole - posted on 01/25/2009

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Wow interesting question. Haven't came across this one yet for my DD's. I think I will mark all that applies and if only allowed one I would go with "other".  As for my children they were all born in Hawaii and their birth certificates have both my husband and my races on them and it is put in the order that I put on the birth certificate form. I started with what they have the most (African American, Hawaiian, Native American, Portuguese, Chinese, Irish & German). 

Amanda - posted on 01/10/2009

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I think it depends where you live in all honesty. In the UK I think it would go into one of the 'mixed white and other' boxes. I don't know where you are but here they seem to change regularly. When my children first went to nursery I was faced with 'white other' or 'black other' to tick for their ethnicity. I chose neither as didn't agree with it. Luckily they do now have a 'white british/caribbean' on the last few forms I've had to complete but it differs according to what the forms for to!

Debbie - posted on 01/10/2009

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I'm a black Jamaican married to a white american. I didn't have to fill out anything regarding race when my children were born. The first time I had to choose was when they were going to school and since my husband and I had discussed what we were going to do before they were born we went with other. I read somewhere that in the U.S. it used to be the race of the woman, eg.  with a white woman and a minority husband it was the race of the mother, so the mother could keep her child and with a white man and a minority woman it is the race of the mother, so the man wouldn't have to claim the child. I can't seem to find any up-to-date information on this so I'm not sure. We chose "other" because both of us refused to be denied as being a parent of our children. Of course we also agreed that we would check "multiracial or black" if it meant getting a scholarship. We've never been tested on this and so far our children say they are both black and white and refuse to choose. I don't think they understand why they would have to and I'm not looking forward to the day when I will have to explain.

Priscilla - posted on 01/10/2009

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I am married to a Mexican and have 3 daughters with him so I have filled out countless applications and forms, and I seriously don't remember any of these race questions being required.

Libby - posted on 01/10/2009

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Yesterday I had to do a background screening for my job and on the form there was a space for race.  I asked what was i supposed to put, since my mom is white and my dad is black and the lady said I had to pick one.  The computer program would only accept one choice.

Shelly - posted on 01/09/2009

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Before we moved to a state with a bi-racial category on school forms, I used to check both boxes blace and white.  I cant tell you how many nervous phone calls I created for the school secretary asking me to choose a race.  I always told them it was not my fault they did not have an option for bi-racial kids.  I could not see the need for denying my kids heritage, one side of the other to make it easy for the school system.  

Julia - posted on 01/08/2009

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Reading through these I have to say that when doing my kids passports, I was told that they are legaly the race of the mother *shrugs* I have no idea. They souldn't be just ONE. I

Adrienne - posted on 01/08/2009

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Coming from a mixed girl (polish, caribbean american and native american) with mixed kids (me + dominican and puerto rican) it almost gets worse as your kids get older...I hate when I'm in line at a store with my mother (who is white) and people try to cut in front of her or assume we aren't together...I am incredibly defensive of my mother when it comes to stuff like that...

Holly - posted on 01/08/2009

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Funny.  I live outside of Philadelphia and my mom lives in southern VA.  I get more crap in Philly than I do in VA!  My thing with getting s_ _t from black chicks is that they give it to me even when it's just me and my daughter!  My daughter's dad is totally uninvolved in her life and I would love to say to some of these girls---do you think I took a great brother from you?-you can have him.  There always is the double-standard since they wouldn't want alot of the men who I would consider dating.  I don't require a man who drives a Mercedes/BMW, etc. or one who makes over $100K/year and I know alot of these women who take issue with me want it all.  I just wish people wouldn't make assumptions about my having a "great black man" just by looking at me and my baby.  UGHHHHHH!!!!!  Thanks for your feedback and letting me vent!

Carolyn - posted on 01/08/2009

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That is hilarious about the country Uterus, wish my kids were still young enough to use it. Yeah DWB is a frequent offense in this area. I was surprised when it happened in Philadelphia though. My boyfriend lives down there and the cops followed us for like 5 blocks, then turned off. He just laughed and said, " well the tags must have cleared the check, there they go" I find that the black women I know or have come across, get upset about the interracial thing one especially when they know you have a good productive man. They don't give a crap about the dead beats, they're okay for the "white girls" to date. I commented on one of these threads in here one time about the who topic. I just get really frustrated by both races clumping our races into catagories. They, we, our, yours....whatever....My boyfriend is Oscar, he doesn't even know these women who are proclaiming "they're (white women) are stealing our men". I try not to let it upset me and for the most part don't have to deal with it.

Holly - posted on 01/08/2009

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Dominant eye color, hair color is determined by genetics, but that is different scientifically from actual race.  Many Jewish people have a dominant gene of brown/black hair and brown eyes and that is not determined by race.  Pigmented skin is dominant over albinism, but that is only because, even we, as Caucasian women, have pigmentation.  All people, except Albinos do.  Features may be dominant, but race is not.  That was the big issue in WWII when Hitler insisted that whites were dominant.  It is not scientifically accurate.



On a different note, I'm glad you are one of the moms who responded because I totally related to your story regarding your son getting pulled over by the cops.  When it happened to me and my ex, I would either experience that they thought he carjacked me or we would laugh and call it DWB (driving while black)!  The cops were speechless when they found out he was a Pro-Bowl player in the NFL!  They asked for his autograph! 



A woman approached me and said "your daughter is so beautiful, what country is she adopted from?"  I responded- very seriously-"the country of my uterus!"  she was without words.  However, I more than not get rude and even threatening comments from AA women who are angered by the fact that I have a mixed-race child.  Have you ever experienced this?  I seldom have issues with white people, ironically, since that's what I had expected.



 

Carolyn - posted on 01/08/2009

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Maybe culture but features of an african american over a caucasian are dominant. i.e. Brown eyes are the dominant gene vs. blue, green eyes being recessive. Thick lips are dominant over thin lips, curly hair is dominant over the recessive straight hair. Pigmented skin is dominent over albinism, and dark hair is dominent over blonde or red hair. All I'm saying is all the characteristics may be present in cauc or AA, but typically you find all these qualities in AA, therefore making them the dominant person

Carolyn - posted on 01/08/2009

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I would have to disagree about the dominant gene. That's like saying brown eyes aren't dominant over blue eyes, they are. Just the way genetics goes.

Holly - posted on 01/08/2009

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I saw some inaccurate posts regarding the question of which box you check for ethnicity and wanted to give some feedback.  Regarding "legally marking the father's race"--that is no longer the law.  I am an attorney and the law referred to in this case was struck down after the Jim Crow era.  There is no law stating that you must mark the father's race.  Also, there is no such thing as a "dominant racial gene"--neither Black nor Latin is  dominant to the Caucasian gene and vice versa, Caucasian is not dominant to Black or Latin. 

Holly - posted on 01/08/2009

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Hi Bethania,



I am new to this community and realize you sent your post two months ago, but I'll give you my input for what it's worth. My daughter is half black and half white and I ALWAYS put a mark on both. I refuse to allow people to make me, or my daughter, choose. She's got the best of both in her and I want her to continue to embrace both! Maybe it will force society to "get with the program" since there are 29 million mixed-race children in this world! Good luck!

AmyBith - posted on 01/07/2009

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you put whatever you want, cause really it only affects how you see yourself and how your child sees himself. people will manipulate statistics to suit their opinion. that might sound cynical, but i think it's true. i am almost completely euro-american with a little cherokee. but i always put other. just because i can.

Jessica - posted on 01/07/2009

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"Other" or i a;ways fill in bi=racial and you can check both boxes.  Which ever you feel most comfortable.

Adrienne - posted on 01/07/2009

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im with charlie...i put everything or nothing...and i do the same for myself (im mixed as well)

Elayne - posted on 01/07/2009

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Hi Bethania,



I would put Latino. I'm half black, indian and white and I always list black. Mostly this became important when I was going to school so I could qualify for minority scholarships. Also, I'm not comfortable with just listing myself as "other."

Rachel - posted on 01/07/2009

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I'm looking at my birth certificate, my husband's and my childs: there is not a space for race. Only a space for sex, multiple birth, parents name. They didn't even ask for a race. All the certificates are from 3 different states.

Cara - posted on 01/06/2009

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my daughter is 1/2 hispanic 1/4 indian and 1/4 irish, her father is from central america, i mark hispanic becuz she is regardless of wat nationality dont be assamed or hide it be proud!!



 

Annette - posted on 01/05/2009

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There are 4 mixed race children in our blended family.
2 are Ho-Chunk (Native American)/White, 1 Black/White & 1 Ho-Chunk (Native American)/Black/White
I will usually check multiple boxes, check other than list races and sometimes create my owe line (bi-racial or multi-racial).

Christy - posted on 01/05/2009

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i beleive your supposed to choose other or multi racial, then there is normally a bos for asian, latino, etc. or you could choose all of the appropriate ones. My sons would be white, black, italian, american indian.

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I check the two races that apply in my case black and white, if they will only accept one I put black, thats whats on both my kids birth certificate

Janice - posted on 01/02/2009

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My children are half white and half puerto rican and have graduated college. But we went thru that "what do I put down on nationality" part on applications. We decided to put HISPANIC since their father was 1/2 PR and I'm only 1/4 of this and a 1/4 of that and also their last names were Hispanic. Also they were eligible for scholarships that "white" kids weren't. so it worked at their advantage.

Libby - posted on 01/02/2009

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I'm half black and half white...I've always considered myself black....I actually look latino and a lot of people assume I speak spanish. As for my kids, my oldest looks like me, but my 4 year old has blond hair and blue eyes. I had to fill out forms for him this year for school and I had no idea what to put for the ethnicity question. Someone asked me if I was bringing the neighbor's kid to school with me every day...they didn't know he was my son.

Priscilla - posted on 01/02/2009

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I usually just leave it blank, mark other, or check both white and hispanic.

Stephanie - posted on 01/02/2009

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i put both. for my kids, white and korean. but it bugs me too. cause I'm not just one color, I'm all mixed up ethnically too. so for myself, I usually say American. :) hehehe.... let's see that mess with their little boxes.

Laura - posted on 12/31/2008

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Interestingly enough the school my oldest boy went to for k-1 chose his race for him. His birth certificate doesn't specify but the school records list him as black, neither of the other two have a race listed, guess i confussed them with the "other --human" line.

Michelle - posted on 12/31/2008

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I just had my daughter Dec. 12. The hospital went by my race (white) not her fathers (black) for her birth certificate.

Gabrielle - posted on 12/31/2008

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I don't think there's any requirement in the U.S. that you have to use the race of one parent vs another. I'm half-white and half-Latina, and I have always marked Latina. When I was younger, that was my parents' choice (maybe because sometimes being a minority can help), but now I do it out of my own choice. I know a lot of people still have the "one-drop" mentality, where any non-white genes "taint" the "whiteness" of a person so they can't be considered white, they have to be classified as the minority. This is left over from slavery and racism in the U.S., but these days some black people use it so they can "claim" someone who is part black as part of their community, i.e. Tiger Woods, Barack Obama. However, as both Tiger and Barack will tell you, they're proud of all parts of their ancestry. (Not trying to bash anyone here - sorry if this comes across the wrong way to anyone.)



So, the point to all this, for me, is that ethnic identity can become a personal choice, regardless of what others may think when they look at you and make a snap judgement. I prefer to mark "mixed" when I can, but when I can't, I choose Latina because that's how I see MYSELF. My daughter may have to choose white, since she's 3/4 white, but if she wants to choose mixed, I've never heard any rule about how much "something" you have to actually have in order to classify yourself that way. Just goes to show how silly the whole thing is. :)

Paulena - posted on 12/30/2008

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You put the race of the mother..... At least that's what the hospital that my son was born at did. He is considered Hispanic... All though he has blond hair, blue eyes and the complexion of Casper the Friendly Ghost.

Laura - posted on 12/30/2008

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Me personally I check all that apply, in my case i check black, white, native american, hispanic and then check other and write in human. Your kids are not any of the ethnic choices, they are all of them that apply. But really it isn't anyone's business and it is not a legally required answer. Blessings

Amy - posted on 12/30/2008

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interesting question--i wouldn't even know. I don't think that i have had to fill any of those out. I'm not sure i could. I was born in South America in Colombia and my husband is 1/2 black and 1/2 Filipino. My son doesn't really look any part black. It's an interesting situation i suppose.

Trudi - posted on 12/29/2008

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my daughter has got italian and english genes off me and her dad is pakistani i just wrote mixed race on her forms for school.

Jennifer - posted on 12/29/2008

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If the option is to choose multiple boxes I choose Asian and Caucasian. If there is only one option I put other.

Rachel - posted on 12/29/2008

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Wow, I always heard that they go by the mother's race. My husband is black, his ex-wife is middle eastern and on his kids birth certificates, they are white! She put white so they will get "opportunities", and her mom is white, so she is "white" etc. I don't get it.

Tammy - posted on 12/28/2008

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Legally, they go by the Father's race. I found this out years ago when my second son was born. His father is black and I am white.....now my son has a son by a white girl and he is classified ethnically as black....what happens if HE has a son by a white woman when he grows up? Somewhere down the line there is going to be a white colored African American ...... I wonder how they will explain that one??

Erica - posted on 12/26/2008

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I don't know. I haven't crossed this bridge yet. My daughter is half white, half Chinese.

Diana - posted on 12/26/2008

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My son is half chinese and his father is from Indonesia. I am white. I can never deicde either, becuase he is not one or the other, he is both. I sometimes check "other", but I have been known to check both white and asian.

Carmen - posted on 12/24/2008

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IDK? My son is half latino and half black. He looks african american, but there are some members in my family who are 100% latino and don't speak english and look totally african american. My son's last name is latin, he doesnt have his dads last last name he has mine. My advise is the check box for ethnicity is optional by law, so just don't check mark it.

Charlie - posted on 11/29/2008

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i may cause a bit of a stir here but i either tick every box or just put a big thick line thru that section !!!!!

my kids are people not a colour !! race !! or faith !!

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Carolyn - posted on 11/28/2008

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My children are white/black, but I would have to agree with the Latino because that's the dominate gene.

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