My 19 Yr Old Daughter-Help

Pennie - posted on 05/26/2012 ( 10 moms have responded )

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First let me say that I never realized this posting was an option or that I cold get support until I was linked by my sister. I hope that you will take the time to read this and give all opinions/advice. My daughter has had trouble since she was 8 when her father stopped visiting her. She has been in group homes and therapeutic foster homes in the past. None of these places seemed to help her or me for that matter. I feel like it allowed her to hate me more. My daughter just turned 19 this month. I bought her a car to help her find herself a job. She had 2 at first then quit one as there was a scheduling conflict. The one job is only part time though. The following is since I bought the car only, as there is so much more history I would take up at least 25 pages. She is still living with me. She hit another car (which was parked) and drove away. Lied to me about it, told me she'd hit a mailbox. The truth came out later that night when a trooper showed up at my door. She did talk to him and got ticketed. She is driving on a permit and I have tried to get her to get her license but now that the car is wrecked she can't do the test in her car. She had a flat and drove on it until it turned to shreds and ruined the rim. She busted the window out of her bedroom because she was mad at her boyfriend. The other day she was stuck in the mud at her boyfriends house and had to have someone tow her out. When they did they damaged the car to where you can't open the driver door. She got it out then was stopped at a road block and was ticketed for driving without a license as she was alone. I went to get her and drive her car back home. She never once said thank you..only.. "Why did it take you so long to get here?" This after she had cussed me when we last spoke. She is very verbally abusive to me and a few weeks ago spit on me. I know what you are thinking..kick her out! This too is what I am thinking..it's past time for her to get her life started. May 1st I told her that she had until 7.1.12 to find a place (even through all the abuse). It seems that time limit has made her even madder even ruder. I have forbidden her boyfriend from coming on the property as he too is abusive and not only to her but to me as well (verbally) and the police have been involved too many times. I told her the other night that if she wants to be with him then she can not live here as there has been too many fights and I don't deserve the stress. This weekend she posted on her fb that she was going out of town with him, in a car that is still torn up with a spare on it, sighs..she took bread, meat, flashlight and who knows what else without asking. I found a letter ripped to shreds in her room from a dept. store stating that last month she willfully stole property from them..even more of a sigh..she has spent time in jail..just last year for stealing. Enough is enough, right? Why can't I pull myself up enough to tell her to leave?? Please help! I do love her very much obviously and she is a smart, funny and beautiful girl..when she wants to be.

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Pennie - posted on 06/02/2012

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I still am unsure as to why she was in the hospital, but she didn't get seen. She was there for 4 or more hours then got pissy and decided to leave. I of course drove her car since she was too exhausted or whatever it was to drive. She went to the Dr yesterday and got some anti-anxiety meds. Hopefully she will take them as prescribed. I am standing my ground about her bf not coming here and she doesn't like it. She got fired for not calling in the night she went to the hospital. She has been staying at her bf's house after he took her to the er and left her there and took off in her car for 3 hours. Sighs..I just keep thinking, one more thing and she's out of here..but I have had more than enough things and told her that if she was going to continue seeing her bf she couldnt live here due to all the drama they cause together. I realize that by not making her leave already that I am not being consistent. They break up every day it seems like. I am in a pickle :(

Amy - posted on 05/30/2012

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Oh wow. I hope everything is alright! Hugs and prayers

Pennie - posted on 05/30/2012

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I would like to take the time to reply but as I read this she is in the emergency room and I am not sure why. She seems ok but says she hasn't eaten or slept in two days. I will respond later.

Amy - posted on 05/30/2012

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So sorry you're in the mess. I've been going through something similar with my 19 year old daughter. She's very compliant at home, but she lies, has a victim mentality, manipulates, connives, has stolen and slanders her father and I. We bend over backwards to help her get on the right path and nothing works. She has two main rules at home: always work to better yourself (ie. doing good in school etc.) and don't lie to us. She has a lot of freedom, but still finds it necessary to lie to us about everything when there's no reason to. I've nagged her for a year to get a license and she won't. I got her enrolled in college and she doesn't care. I recently caught her in yet another whopper of a lie and instead of coming home and dealing with it, she chose to ignore my calls and texts for 4 days until I threatened to call police and make a missing person's report. I knew she was ok because she was texting me right up until I caught her then it went silent.

My husband and I are now forcing her out. It's the best thing we can do for her. This is an on going problem and to not give her a wake up call will only harm her. She's never had to face real consequences for her bad decisions therefore, she never learned. Well, reality is a great teacher, but also a harsh one. Keep your chin up and stick to your guns. The easy thing to do is let them do whatever they want. It's easy on us and frankly, selfish of us. The hard thing to do is intentional parenting for their good even when it hurts us more. You'll be in my prayers.

Pennie - posted on 05/28/2012

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Thank you again Jamie. Your thoughtful words have brought tears to my eyes. I have been thinking about sending her the letter..but I want to do it when, like you said, the time is right. I so appreciate your support. I hope you are having a wonderful Memorial Day and I am thankful you've taken the time to reply and advise.

Jamie - posted on 05/28/2012

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Well you have one step up on your daughter you know in life, work etc. there are times you don't see eye to eye with someone but you still keep a civil attitude and tongue ~to speak your mind takes courage, to hold your tongue takes a different kind of courage, wisdom is knowing when to do either, strength is seeing it through~ You know that there is a time and place for confrontation and how to stay on track.If you have gotten to the point that you need to treat her like any other adult in your life, at arms reach, sounds by her remarks she knows about passive aggressive behaviour, then that what you will need to do.A mothers heart strings can be pulled for miles, but you don't want to teach her that's how to get what she wants in life, right so even though you are going through this she is still learning from you.

Pennie - posted on 05/28/2012

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Jaime,
Thank you so much for your words of encouragement and support. No the car is in her name therefore there is nothing I can do. I love the letter and have been advised to write one to her. I love the way it's phrased! I also like the stupidity rubbing off on her..lol. She came back home last night to change then left and I asked "are you coming back tonight?" She said "No you don't want me living here remember?" I didn't say anything, I so wanted to say.."Then take all your belongings" but I didn't. It feels cold and heartless, but I know that it will be the best thing in the end. I know she is going to hate me, which she already does. Then she came back later on and was in her room upset..I heard her tell one of her friends "He hit me again tonight". I so do not want to push her into his arms but feel that's where she would go. This is my hesitation...sigh. She was so pleasant, called me Mommy and asked please and said thank you, we even talked for a bit. It's times like these that I know she can be my daughter..the true self. I was so amped to kick her out when she got back since she chose to be with her bf. The sad thing: I know it doesn't matter if I kick her out or not today or by the 1st she will go to him..I can no longer protect her and she has chosen SO many times to go back to him. I didn't cave last night but I did get her some icecream when she asked saying that I shouldn't be doing anything for her with the way she's treated me. She said "Great Mom way to kick me when I am down." Nothing I say goes through to her..smh

Jamie - posted on 05/27/2012

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Giving her a time limit to move out is good do not back down. Is the car still registered in your name if it is and you don't need it for yourself sell it, give it to a kid that appreciates it for a dollar.
Darling daughter
I love you, that does not mean I like you right now. I love you for who you CAN be beautiful, smart, strong, energetic and caring. Which I choose to have in my home.
I don't like you when you are abusive, hateful, disrespectful, lieing, stealing and as a living human being I choose to not associate with all that negative energy. I choose not to allow it in my home so... Darling daughter if these conditions are not acceptable to you while you live in my home there's the door don't let it hit you where the good lord split ya.
My oldest daughter now 32 thought I was the most hateful heartless *itch and told anyone who would listen and her Auntie as much, my sister shouldered some of her tantrums but in the end my daughter realized Me kicking her out into the real world was the scariest thing i had to do b/c she wasn't willing to learn from me anymore. Funny how at 15 parents all of a sudden become the dullest tools in the tool box. Another saying I used was Quick move out! Before my stupidity rubs off on you and you don't know it all! When the day was coming close I reminded her that she best get on the ball and look for someplace to live b/c the YWCA fills up fast every night, when her boyfriend tried fast talking me into her staying for an extra month I said well good thing it's summer where are you going to live after the 1st of this month (in the bushes at the park) b/c you aren't living here. 8-)
Hugs MOM you are strong, this too shall pass, breath deep and stand your ground.

Pennie - posted on 05/27/2012

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I so feel everything you are going through. It sounds as if we have the same daughter really. Although my daughter has been diagnosed with border line personality disorder, severe depression and refuses to take meds. She smokes fairly regularly I am sure. She wants colon-opine and swears that's the only thing that will help her...sighs. It is very hard to call the police on your own child, but I have done it and will do it again if need be, Linda you need to think of your safety and hers. She called me today acting like nothing was wrong. She doesn't know if she has a job or not now that she called out 2 days in a row with no doctors note. I have been told that by letting her live her and not having her fend for herself I am enabling her..to not take responsibility. I hope that things get better for you too, but fear that it wont until we both stand up once and for all for ourselves. I have been told so many times that kicking her out would be the best thing I could do for her..it just doesn't feel like it. Please stay in touch if you like. Good luck and remember to stand your ground otherwise she will just keep pushing..trust me I know.

Linda - posted on 05/27/2012

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I'm so sorry you are going through this and I wish I had better advice. I'm going through very similar situation with my now 18 year old. she is just days from graduating and is hell bent on sabotaging it. My daughter too is also abusive but only when she is manic, she was diagnosed bipolar a few years ago and hospitalized. She has refused meds saying she doesn't believe in them but has no problem smoking pot constantly. In many ways I think pot has made things worse and she doesn't see it. Last night was the final straw, she had a huge fight with her boyfriend and became very agitated and abusive to him, myself and my husband, my husband would not let me call the cops even though she clearly needed help. I have no idea what to do as I'm sure you don't either.. Only thing I can think of is that we keep loving them but not enabling them anymore. I hope things get better for us both.