3rd Graders

Jennifer - posted on 01/27/2009 ( 22 moms have responded )

14

16

0

Most of the posts and conversations I've read so far are about younger children (potty training, and learning to read). My son just turned 9 and is in 3rd grade. Does anyone else have a gifted child around the same age? If so, I'd love to share experiences with you.

If you see this, leave this form field blank.
Powered by RESPECT not THUMPS

22 Comments

View replies by

Tammy - posted on 02/26/2009

157

5

18

My 4th child is a boy in 3rd grade just turned 9.  He is gifted reading at an 8th grade level ect.. and his interests are  computers, the solar system and the human body (more science than math).  He also has Selective Mutism which is a social anxiety disorder (he won't talk at school AT ALL) .  All my children except the baby 16-9 are considered gifted but have never been officially tested.  Teacher and I just assume if a 3rd grader can do his cousins Algebra  correctly by just reading the instructions then he is probably smarter then the average bear lol .

Jennifer - posted on 02/26/2009

3

0

0

My son is in 3rd grade and almost 9. He never skipped a grade as our district has a wonderful Gifted pullout program - it really challenges him. He goes to that center one day every week along with the other gifted kids from his school. He tested into the program in Kindergarten.
He is so smart and knows it too! He tells me all the time that he knows more than me and he probably does. He said kids don't like him at school (1) I think he's exaggerating a little since he's quite popular (2) I think he may come across as a know-it-all. I don't think he means to and doesn't intend to hurt anyone's feeling, but he is extremely black and white and says it like it is. One thing we talk about often is how he is gifted which means he's been given a "gift", and that he learns a different way than other kids. We often talk about other kids in his class and how they each have special talents and abilities - one is the fastest runner, one can draw really good, one is very good at spelling, etc. I am trying to get across the point that others can do some things better than him - it's not all about him all the time. I want him to be humble about his giftedness although it is an incredible blessing:)
He definitely relates better to adults and other gifted kids. Sometimes I think he doesn't give 100% because it's not worth his time, not something important to him. We have a lot of "talks"!
His teacher last year insinuated that he might need medication, be ADHD since he couldn't focus. I'm convinced that he chose not to focus because it was boring or he didn't find it interesting. Oh believe me the kid can focus when it's something he wants to do - he focuses so much that he shuts everything else out.

Those are just a few observations about school.

Kylie - posted on 02/10/2009

148

1

16

In response to Joy, my son also has similar issues - he is a bit younger (6 in March) but we have been down the same road except I have refused the meds to date and deferred the specialist assessment until mid year. I have posted elsewhere on this so won't go in to great detail but we found that a high protein (eggs for breakfast every day), low carb and minimal colours and preservatives have had such a dramatic improvement on his behaviour that his Teacher this year has advised me she has no problems at all. Maybe something worth trying. Mind you I know he still has concentration issues, particularly when reading - likes to have in-depth discussions after every short paragraph (must be soooo frustrating for his Teacher). I will be having him tested for "working memory" issues as his sister who while gifted does have a slight issue with her working memory and this did/does affect their focus.  

Joy - posted on 02/10/2009

4

19

0

My son is8 1/2 and in 3rd grade.  He too had the impulsiveness, figiting issues. They (the school) pushed for an ADHD diagnosis, after 2 years of testing but still no definate diagnosis, we tried meds.  They helped with the impulsiveness and fidgeting in school (they will help anyone focus better), but his mood quickly declined.  We have taken him off the meds and he is so much happier.  He still has issues in school, but we are looking into other options to help him (vitamins, etc.).  In grades 1 and 2 he had a teacher that treated him negatively because he didn't fit into her "box", it really did damage to his personality and behavior (lots of anxiety now--trying to do what is "right").  His teacher this year definately has more patience with him.  As a teacher myself, I know he can be a handful, but he has come a long way this year!

Catherine - posted on 02/09/2009

11

9

0

My son is 8 and in the third grade.  He has been the most honest kid I knew until this year.  He is lying!  Nothing big, just trying to keep from getting in trouble.  I don't know what is happening.  He has a big problem with being responsible...or he is lazy.  I have talked to his Gifted teacher and she says this is pretty normal but it is driving me crazy! Anyone with similar issues?   He is an amazing boy, but he is the youngest in his class and is super critical of himself. 

Donna - posted on 02/07/2009

1

5

0

Hi.  My son is in 3rd grade.  He just turned 9 a few weeks ago.  He's been in the gifted program at school since the end of kindergarten.



He's an only child so no problems picking on a sibling.  He plays with other kids at school, but tends to be more of a loner...he would rather interact with adults.



Lately though, our once well behaved child has become more sarcastic..always having to have the last word.  It's like having a teenager. lol

Stefanie - posted on 02/01/2009

17

10

2

Quoting Jennifer:

Stefanie,
Your son sounds a lot like mine. He is almost 8 and in third grade. He too skipped a grade this year. We have been having lots of problems with his teacher as well. He is also rather impulsive and very talkative and she seems to have no patience for him. Thankfully he has still made the honor roll and she hasn't marked him down that low in conduct to keep him off. We also have had lots of issues with lack of communication this year. I had a meeting with the teacher and the principal in Nov (I had to get the principal involved just to get the teacher to sit down with me) about some poor grades he was getting on math assignments. They were story problems, and although he had all the right answers, he was getting marked down because he wasn't showing all the steps (he can solve them mentally in his head in about 5 seconds). When I explained my frustration about her not contacting me to let me know about his grades, she had the nerve to tell me that the problem was my expectations and that since he skipped a grade I should expect him to get C's and D's! NO way- if he isn't capable of better than that, I wouldn't have moved him up! And she is the G&T teacher and supposedly has lots of experience working with gifted kids. Needless to say, we plan on changing schools next year.


Well I have been sick the last few days, but I have managed to get a meeting this upcoming week with the Principle, VP, counsler, GT teacher, music teacher, PE teacher, and I think the janitor may even step in:) Needless to say a few phone calls to some admin people and a mother who is in admin in another district helps:) We will see what the out come is and I will let you know! I am not backing down on fighting for my son. They all think since I am a young mother that I will just go away and I don't know what I am talking about...Little do they know!....For those of you who pray, add us to your prayer list. The meeting should be on weds afternoon. I confirm tomm and will update when I know what they say. Maybe something will be helpful across the board!

Kylie - posted on 02/01/2009

148

1

16

Hi Jennifer, My daughter has just entered the 3rd grade and she too is gifted and/or talented in linguistics, art, music and sport (received straight A's in maths too so is well above the average there but would not say gifted). We do not focus on the academics at home either as none of my children are overly enthusiastic once they leave school but we do offer them alot of extra curricular activities - like dance, music lessons, drama, swimming, netball, soccer etc. We also let them guide us so we do do science experiments at home and they love nature so we are always out looking for insects etc (just love that!!!).



One of her teachers in Year 1 advised me that in her opinion my daughter was unusual as she was advanced across the board, so I do not think it is overly common but would love to hear from other parents. I do find that as she is used to doing well, when she doesn't it is a bit of a shock to her system. Luckily she is a great kid with wonderful self esteem so she bounces back quite quickly.



As to testing your daughter, I have a younger son who I am sure is actually brighter than his sister but we are choosing not to test at this stage due to it not really making any difference at his school and the expense involved. Good luck!

Jennifer - posted on 02/01/2009

14

16

0

Apparently being accepted in to the Gifted program in my son's school is based on the 3rd grade standardized tests, so he won't be eligable until next year.  I'm always amazed at how my son (who is left handed) seems to use both sides of his brain equally.  He's good in reading and art, as well as math and music (pretty athletic too).  Is this common in gifted kids?  We definately try to expose him to as many different types of activities as possible.  (not all of them academic)  What suprises me is that he seems to be well above average in most if not all of them.  On another note, I'd like to have my 6 year old daughter's IQ tested since we already know his (he had to be tested to qualify for speech therapy (articulation) in pre-school).  Any thoughts on how to go about doing this?

Shauna - posted on 01/31/2009

6

12

1

My son is 8 in 3rd grade. He's been in talent pool since kindergarten and in G&T for the past two years. We decided against skipping a grade because socially, he needed to be with kids his own age. We supplement his learning at home. He loves the Discovery, History, and National Geographic channels. In class he will often be reading a book when the class is learning something he already knows. His teacher doesn't mind because whenever he's called on he can answer as if he had been paying 100% attention to her. We always meet with his teachers and and they do their best to provide material to challenge him in the classroom.



This year we are working with his teacher on developing his leadership skills. Getting him to guide group discussions and to be aware that the other kids watch his actions. His G&T class has a research project that the work on the second half of the school year. He has to make note cards, bibliography, write a paper, and create a presentation on the subject. They are not allowed to read their paper to the class as the presentation so they have to be creative. I think it was the 5th grade before I had to think about doing that and his first research project was in 2nd grade.



The schools can only do so much and it IS harder for us as parents of gifted children because the schools seem to focus more on the kids who learn slowly. Clear and open communicaiton is key, and if you can't get that you should find a new school.



We are always working to find ways that he can learn advanced topics at home. He received one of those DNA Explorer kits from my Dad so he's intrested in DNA, cloning, and the human genome project now. We sure do have our hands full!

Jennifer - posted on 01/31/2009

1

26

0

Stefanie,
Your son sounds a lot like mine. He is almost 8 and in third grade. He too skipped a grade this year. We have been having lots of problems with his teacher as well. He is also rather impulsive and very talkative and she seems to have no patience for him. Thankfully he has still made the honor roll and she hasn't marked him down that low in conduct to keep him off. We also have had lots of issues with lack of communication this year. I had a meeting with the teacher and the principal in Nov (I had to get the principal involved just to get the teacher to sit down with me) about some poor grades he was getting on math assignments. They were story problems, and although he had all the right answers, he was getting marked down because he wasn't showing all the steps (he can solve them mentally in his head in about 5 seconds). When I explained my frustration about her not contacting me to let me know about his grades, she had the nerve to tell me that the problem was my expectations and that since he skipped a grade I should expect him to get C's and D's! NO way- if he isn't capable of better than that, I wouldn't have moved him up! And she is the G&T teacher and supposedly has lots of experience working with gifted kids. Needless to say, we plan on changing schools next year.

Stefanie - posted on 01/30/2009

17

10

2

Well....I will try and not get on my HUGE soap box with the school "fun" this year:)...



The first thing we did before skipping him was think long and hard over the summer about it. We thought long term, short term, acedemics, maturity, peers, driving, you name it we looked into it. We prayed a lot.



We had the meeting about it with the teachers and other admin. The biggest thing they said was they had the perfect teacher for him (only one in each grade teaches all the GT kids I later learned), and there had to be a ton of communication this first year to make sure of his progress and such.



Well the teacher is half empty on everything and openly admitted that she didn't want to teach a grade skip child. She wanted to be in 6th grade, not 2nd and she didn't agree with moving him up. That was strike one.



Then we get through the first 6weeks and the report card has conduct of N, U, N.., and like 1 S. So we go up to the school and ask to see what is so wrong with his behavior. He didn't even get a chance to be on the honor roll because of this conduct problem even though his grades were high enough. I asked about his learning curve from going to school and "playing" in K to being expected to sit and behave and just know what to do in 2nd. They told me all kinds of crap. But I never got phone calls, emails, notes, hardly any comunication if I wasn't doing it.



Then 2nd six weeks, same problem. I made more calls, and efforts to find out what was so bad. A slight improvement was there, but I feel only because I raised a fit about it.



Now the 3rd six weeks. The teacher finally gets that I don't care if he is making A's or B's, he's a grade ahead and making A's and B's. It's not the conduct per say that I am worried about. He is trying so hard to change and do what he thinks is right that he soiled his pants during a timed test so that he wouldn't get in trouble for asking to go to the bathroom and interrupting the teacher. He is striving so hard to get to an S that the teacher finally gets that it's his energy to learn she is hurting.



With that being said....he made it in the classroom this six weeks. He earned an S all by himself. Then we saw music and PE. N in conduct. No note, no phone call, no email. The homeroom teacher didn't even know there was a problem. She made a huge deal to the class about how well he had done and announced it to everyone, before she saw the other 2 classes.  And made a mistake. So now he doesn't get to be on honor roll. We tried to find out what was so wrong, 40mins of his entire day, that warranted an N. They said such small things I was at a loss of words for why they never contacted me.



So....my son is impulsive...he is a talker...he thinks out loud...he has friends...that is about the extent of there reasons. He is 2 yrs younger than some in his class, and still learning what his teachers want. He didn't even know he was in trouble most of the time. I am told how great he is but too impulsive and talkative. He likes to be first in line and first on answers. How is this wrong?...



So he can't be on honor roll, again, due to a teacher not communicating with us. And what repremand does she get?...nothing yet, but she will get hers I am sure. My son was crushed that he didn't make it when he was told he did. How do you teach classroom conduct with a negative teacher that isn't willing to budge? And a PE teacher and music teacher that have no idea how do deal with him?

Jennifer - posted on 01/30/2009

14

16

0

what kind of conduct broblems are you having?  My son didn't skip a grade, instead since he's a January baby he's one of the oldest in the class.  I inquired about skipping when he was in preschool (since he just missed the cut off date for K), but they said even though he was academically advanced, emotionally he was right where he needed to be.  So instead I've spoken with his teachers each year to make sure that they give him work that will challenge him.  So far, so good...

Stefanie - posted on 01/29/2009

17

10

2

I have a barely 7yr old in 2nd...I would love advice from the "wiser" generation kids before me:) He skipped 1st grade and is doing great!...Any thoughts on what to look out for!...So far I am struggling with conduct...do you have this problem?...and how is 3rd grade treating you:)

Lydia - posted on 01/27/2009

6

30

0

My son is not a bragger, however he is extremely cocky, some will say confident. However as his mother I can tell when he is sticking his little nose up at others because they can't get something. He skipped 2nd grade and tends to also do math work books for fun. We use Kumon, Spectrum, daily math and language reviews. He has been doing long multiplication, long division, fractions and decimals at the age of 7.5. It's funny but most kids who I have come across who are above average are all into music. My son plays the trumpet and is trying out for the saxaphone at the moment. He loves classical music, particularly Beethoven and Bach. I can assure you both his father and I don't have the slightest interest in classical music, but he is into to it! I took Intro to Music as an elective so I could learn something to keep up with him.

Jennifer - posted on 01/27/2009

14

16

0

My son likes to tell his sister that she's not as smart as he is because he was reading and telling time in pre-school.  He's the kid who does math workbooks for fun, is an amazing artist, musically talented, pretty good at sports, and loves to read well above grade level.   My daughter (in Kindergarten) has a wonderful imagination, but isn't very physically coordinated and more interested in socializing than school.  What are your kids into?  He never brags to others, only his sister.  Do your kids do this?  I'm forever telling them both that she's smart too, but sibling rivalry ignores this advice.

If you see this, leave this form field blank.
Powered by RESPECT not THUMPS

Join Circle of Moms

Sign up for Circle of Moms and be a part of this community! Membership is just one click away.

Join Circle of Moms