is it normal or gifted??

Sarah - posted on 02/27/2012 ( 14 moms have responded )

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My son is 2 1/2, I think he may be highly gifted. He knows his letters and his phonics he can show me numbers up to 10, he plays the violin very well for a two year old. He can read curious George the first book with very little prompting and other books. However, he doesn't talk he uses gestures, he'll read just fine but take the book away and he doesn't speak (he sometimes says one words like, crane, if we see a crane). He knows his colors and shades, an loves to sort his legos into color order and can easily complete a 12 piece puzzle, he knows his shapes even the harder ones like (hexagon, pentagon, ect) . His fine motor skills are amazing he loves using chopsticks for his dinner. But he is my first so i don't know if all kids do these things or if my son is highly gifted. He never throws fits and doesn't get angry hes very calm. I have to add that potty training, took 5mins i just your a big boy and go in the potty now and that was it. Hes also organized and very clean, he hates getting messy or dirty, and packs his paints ( crayons ect) in order when he puts them away..Is this normal 2year old stuff? also any idea on why he doesn't want to talk?



Also forgot to add i brought him a model of the human body, you can take the organs out. In a day he had learnt all the organs and could them in correctly and point them out when asked, both when the organs are in the in the body and outside. Hes currently learning the skeleton and knows the basics, ribs, skull sternum ect.

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Sarah - posted on 03/27/2012

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I just want to say you're doing a great job with him. He sounds advanced, but that may mean any number of different things as he gets older. For now do as you're doing and follow his interests. And I say if the human body interests him, then follow it. When my oldest DD was 2.5 she was fascinated with the human body - particularly digestion. You say he doesn't like singing - how about from a CD? does he tolerate that. My DD will listen to albums, but won't let us sing. The reason I ask is my DD LOVED they might be Giants Science album - and here come the 1,2,3s try youtube for them to check them out - we've found most of them on there.



You also say you're homeschooling - so are we - at first I thought school was what we needed when my DD was 2.5 and doing just as you describe your LO doing. But she was so bored sitting there doing her numbers and letters (that she already knew) that she hated it - she actually stopped counting and all interest in reading stopped too.



It's great to say follow developmentally appropriate, but if he isn't interested in playing with board books and playing clapping games or whatever, why force him? My Dd loved us to read her chapter books - not those silly little children's stories. And there is no difference in age appropriateness between dinosaurs and the human body. They're just 2 topics both of which people go to university to eventually learn more about. She isn't saying she's teaching him physiology - though honestly if he's at that point I wouldn't tell her to stop either.



If you haven't heard of it before, I highly recommend checking out unschooling - It's been the best thing for us. Especially with 3 children at vastly different ages, stages, and interest levels.

Louise - posted on 03/05/2012

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Wow you need to slow down here. Your sons brain is like a sponge at this age and he will learn as much as you want to teach him. It does concern me that his speech is not what it should be at this age. You need to go back a stage and sit and play with him singing songs and counting songs with lots of actions and laughter. Encourage him to sing with you and to have fun.



I do not have a problem in you teaching him things but you have to teach him the important things like the power of play. To build a childs education you need to start from the bottom and work your way up. Skipping stages leaves a hole in there knowledge. This period is called the foundation stages and information about this can be seen on any google search.



As a mum of a gifted child (now at uni) he does have familiar signs to my son. The not getting dirty and the need to tidy and thirst for information seems very familiar to me. You just need to nurture that talent but by age appropriate toys. The human body is not really the right thing for him to learn about just yet. Try things like animals or dinosaurs or cars something that interests him and expand on things.



You need to concerntrate on the speech for now, so read to him or best of all action songs with lots and lots of facial expressions to encourage him to speak. If he points to things then say the word and encourage him to say the word. Do not pass him things unless he asks. He will soon catch on.



I have to say though it is not easy raising a gifted child through school as they tend to get picked on. So try and socialise him as much as possible so that by the time he goes to school he has friends around him that can support him. My son was bullied for 5 years because he was different and I had to fight to get him help to reach his full potential. Now he is 20 and speaks 5 languages fluently and is a mathmatician studying a duel degree of french and Math.



My advice to you is get a book about the foundation stages and start a fresh making sure he reaches all the targets before you move him on. Above all make things fun!

Glynis - posted on 02/28/2012

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That is very advanced and certainly not normal for a 2 year old.Perhaps he does not talk because he has no need to.Does he interact with other children??I am sure he will talk in his own time., good luck.

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Sarah - posted on 05/07/2012

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My son is now talking to me..it started with a purple ice pop.lol he said i want two, then i gave him two then he said now i want orange..and he is just talking about everything! thanks everyone for yoour support,help and advice!

Sarah - posted on 04/26/2012

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Thank you so much, this has helped me a great deal and your son sounds like mine in a big way. My son has started speaking more, he likes me to know how feels such as ' i'm sad' or 'i'm happy' ect. Im getting alot of pressure from family members to put him in school i just know that its not right for him..My son is plowing his way through the Louisiana kindergarten curriculum and in math has started on the 1st grade stuff... i just worry that hes going to fast for himself..I look at him and i see a baby adding and subtracting (he loves it, i guess he loves being told hes right) and all i can think is don't go too fast! I let him work at his own pace..but he did try too read me cat in the hat today..he needed help with some of the words.

Eliza - posted on 04/21/2012

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Hi Sarah!

I wanted to let you know that my son sounds a lot like yours at age 2 1/2. Mine is six now and I can share some stories about the transitions he's gone through as he's gotten older. I homeschool him because regular school is not an option for him as he learns too quickly. At 2 my son was not talking at all. He would use gestures to let me know what he wanted. He started this communication path when he was only a few months old but I didn't realize it until I found I always knew what he wanted despite not being verbal. By one and a half he knew his colors, shapes, letters and numbers (counting objects) and I'm not sure how old he was when he acquired these skills as I only found out because I happened to observe him at that age playing with his older sister's toy and he kept getting all the answers right. After that I started testing him, writing out numbers and letters, lining up shapes and colors and asking him to find the one I was talking about. He got every one correct. Still, he didn't talk. His doctor told me that if he still didn't talk with words by the age of 2 1/2 she would ask me to come back in and get him tested. She was very encouraging because she said her own son (now grown) also didn't talk until he was 2 1/2 and he was doing just fine now. Well, the day before he turned 2 1/2 he said about 50 different words. Shortly after I took him to a bookstore and he read me easy readers books. And yet he still would not have conversations with us! If he wanted something he would use one of his gestures. I chalk it up to one of his quirks.

Now, four years and many obsessions later, he still zooms through his school work like he's in some sort of race to learn. He's currently reading The Hobbit (I still can't believe it but I ask him reading comprehension questions about it and he answers correctly 95% of the time). He plays both the piano and violin (lessons started at his request) and his teachers have corroborated that he is musically gifted. He'll still try to use gestures or answer their questions non-verbally but they don't accept his answers unless they're verbal which is good for him. He was always a very calm and easy going baby and toddler but as he's aged he has become more frustrated with perceived imperfections and with his two sisters. He's not a "showy" gifted, he doesn't like giving answers to questions that other people ask which I think stems from his fear of being told he's wrong. As his mama, he knows I'll be gentle with him so he tends to cooperate with me. I was told by a gifted counselor who had worked with gifted children for decades now that his non verbal ways may just be one of those quirks he deals with but as he grows and matures over the years, he will tend to correct his own quirks in order to conform to society. At this point I've seen so many examples of this being true for him that I don't worry as much. However, I do still help him and encourage him in those areas he struggles with in the hopes that he will overcome these obstacles sooner than later.

I say, go in whichever direction your son takes you. People who found out how bright my son was pre-elementary age always asked how much time I spent teaching him and they were surprised or didn't believe me when I said I didn't work with him at all but I really never did. I sent him to preschool when he was 3 but he was so bored I kept him home the next year and decided I would just let him be who he was and not formally teach him anything but just let his own motivation and curiosity lead him and he still learned a lot that year. Your son is going to be who he is going to be and I've found encouragement in their passions, love for who they are and understanding where they're at is the best gift I can give them as a mom. And don't forget to give yourself lots of breaks and relax. It can be very taxing on energy levels to have children like these at home.

JoAnn - posted on 04/04/2012

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I agree, play is very important and the speech is concerning. Why not explore some groups you can participate in with other children & adults? As he plays violin, consider a music class like Music Together, Kindermusik, or ones at the community recreation center? Interacting with peers and singing may assist the speech while encouraging play.



Feel free to poke around my site for some ideas of things you can share with him. http://www.music2spark.com



All the best!

Jennifer - posted on 03/30/2012

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My son started talking around 2 1/2 and he caught up to peers and passed them pretty quickly. Maybe he is just a late talker! We had a few others in our family as well.

Sarah - posted on 03/29/2012

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He knows his numbers up to 20, he doesn't say them but he shows me with blocks ect. He can spell his name saying each letter (Gabriel) and he can spell mom, dad, stop,dog and cat.



His writing is messy but he knows his capital letters and lower case letters. I don't know if he gifted but im sure he is above average.

Sarah - posted on 03/08/2012

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Just want to add he hates singing, if i sing he says stop and holds my mouth shut , same with his dad, granddad and grandma. He likes musical instruments but no singing, he even doesn't like his music teacher singing. And above all he hates imitation he doesn't like it. At gym when they play copy the monkey he stops me and his dad and shakes his head no.

Sarah - posted on 03/08/2012

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my son does get speech therapy once a week, and had to sit an academic test. They said academically he is working on the level of a 5year old but his speech is not there yet.



I plan on homeschooling my son and am a member of a home school group. Today i was working on some science with him and i said 'where does the frog live?' (he is working through a book called brain quest) and he just started drawing lines matching the animals to their habitats without even seeming to pay attention. He got it all right but i find it frustrating when he whizzes through stuff, but hes repeatedly getting it right.



He is interested in the human body, he recently picked magnets of the organs over any other toy in hobby lobby after the 5th time of saying 'is that what you really want?' i let him have it. And he got home opened it took it to his magnet board and labeled everything with the magnet labels.

Jill - posted on 03/05/2012

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Its hard for me to answer this because, I too, have an advanced 2 year old...the only difference is mine talks...A LOT!! lol... have you brought this up to his Dr? he sounds very smart, and advanced in many areas, but I would talk to his doctor at your next visit...keep up the good work Mom!!



Also, I would encourage him to speak...don't move to the next organ until he says the name...if you stop speaking for him, it might encourage him to speak on his own!!

Sarah - posted on 02/28/2012

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He is friends with 2other little boys, a 3year old and a 6year old. I made friends with the parents so my 2year old could play with her 3year old. Only my son plays with her 6year old, they build with legos and play with toy dragons, and the 6 year old (Nolan) doesn't seem to even notice my son is not talking to him.



I had a friend over the other day and he went and got her a little chair, from his table put it at the coffee table pointed to her then tapped the seat..asking her to sit down. Also i will say to him how many crackers would you like and he will show 1 or 2 fingers. On walks he will point out numbers on mail boxes and hold up his fingers (521, is 5 fingers then 2 then 1) he sounds out letters on license plates and and shows me the numbers with his fingers..

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