hormonal imbalance and chronic pain

Christine - posted on 04/26/2009 ( 15 moms have responded )

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i've been wondering about hormonal imbalances lately and if they might play some kind of role in my fibro and depression and anxiety. i asked my doc to check my hormone levels back in dec. he called and said they were good---i wasn't in menopause. i went to get a copy of the test results-----and he had only checked 2 hormones-----i want to kick him in the shins the next time i see him!!!!! i need to do some reading up on this---anyone know some good resources?

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Christine - posted on 07/09/2009

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i also realized i can give myself a little bit of a break in the area of feeling like such a lousy mother and feeling bad about how poorly i have handled things over the last year and a half. since cortisol is the stress hormone, and your adrenals are supposed to kick in extra cortisol when you are under stress, i realize now that my body did not have enough cortisol to just get through the day----without any extra stress. we have been under so much stress over the last while, that i doubt my already insufficient adrenal glands were able to kick in the extra cortisol i needed to deal with the extra stress-----PRESTO-------you get a mom that seems like she is crazy.

Christine - posted on 07/09/2009

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i have had so much blood sucked out of me over the last couple of weeks i wonder if i have lost any weight from it!LOL! i also had an MRI onmy pituitary on tuesday. i don't imagine that i will hear back from the docs office until all of the blood work and the MRI report come back in. i am anxious to see if they can tell what is wrong with my pituitary (which is causing the adrenal insufficiency) and i am anxious to see if there are any other of my essential hormones that have been thrown out of whack because of itl. the replacement hydrocortisone is definitely helping with the fatigue, and i was already on armour thyroid. i don't know everything she is testing. last week it was testosterone, DHEA, and 17-hydroxy progesterone. she is also waiting on the results for the insuline-like growth factor, which had to be shifted to a different lab. i didn't read what was being tested at my other blood draw, so i don't know she was looking for with it. i need to get back to the psych doc and get on an anti-depressant, but i think it is kind of pointless to do that until i know for sure what hormones are out of whack siince some of my depression could actually have a physical cause that is treatable, but needs to be treated with something other than just antidepressants. i am sure i will still need the antidepressants and anxiety drugs, but i need my body working properly to get the depression drugs to work properly.



sometimes i wish they would find a pituitary tumor that could be removed without a problem that would explain my almost 10 years of headaches---which have been worse recently. but then, i really don't want to have surgery, either.

Christine - posted on 06/17/2009

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i have discovered that if you really need help with hormonal issues you need to see an endocrinologist. i just had a bunch of blood work done and one of the tests came back low---but it is not a female hormone. i have to have a test done, but i'm not sure what it is. i think i am either dealing with a pituitary problem or an adrenal problem. since the pituitary is the master hormone---if something is wrong with it---it will throw EVERYTHING off. i couldn't quite follow what the nurse was telling me. i think it was my cortisol that was low, but the test they are doing looks like it is checking for either pituitary or adrenal problems.

Margaret - posted on 06/16/2009

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oh BTW I was on progesterone to stop my cycle while waiting for my OBGYN appointment.....even though it isn't working anymore to stop my cycle I would be tempted to request that I continue taking it for the reduction in pain it did for my back and knee's and the impact it has on my asthma....my asthma was NONEXISTENT for the entire duration I was on it.

however we are attempting to have another child if that is remotely possible.... don't know go back in 6 months to find out whether or not our attempts are futile. and if I do continue the injections it isn't worth trying as it prevents pregnancy.

Margaret - posted on 06/16/2009

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BTW if you want to deal with hormones get a gynea (OB/GYN) speak to them about the pain and menopause etc .....GP's honestly are next to useless for anything remotely related to womens health. the only one I have ever had who wasnt was a qualified OB/GYN working as a GP and she is the one who first diagnosed me with endo.

it is just not something they deal with. most of them will just hand you a painkiller if you complain of pain/cramps maybe something for nausea if you are VERY lucky, and the most help you will be able to get but not without a lot of pushing is something for the runs. if it is associated....but besides a referral and something to help you function around the symptoms until the appointment comes up a GP wont do much.....

and even an OBGYN takes a looooong time to actually do something. remember these are once a month experiences it isn't necessarily chronic....they wont hesitate to tell you to come back in a few months to give them further information about your cycle between now and then. expect to have to document diaries everything, dates of your cycle start finish daily flow level heavy light medium flow, record clots, pain, associated pain and conditions such as abdominal bowel or bladder issues.....

hormones, dealing with Hormones themselves as a form of treatment is EXTREMELY hit and miss....I have tried about hmmmm 10 different types and forms of hormones over the years....some of which they have had me on in excess of 6 months even though they arent working, and have given me additional hormones during those months to counter the unexpected reactions from that hormone.....

it is not fun seriously if you can avoid it don't go near HRT. try everything else first there are other options many other options for hormone imbalances diet and exercise is brilliant for it. and Vitamin B6. I would recommend it for anyone with mild PMS symptoms.....

I spent 3 days of every month for 5 months trying to fight the urge to kill myself literally sitting on my hands in a corner of my unit scared to move in case of what I might do....there are options for treatment available. google PMS and hormone imbalances symptoms are many and varied they can be treated don't ignore them. and progesterone is an anti inflammatory as are some of the others. if your body is low in these I would not at all be surprised if the pain is increased.....reduce the impact of your cycle on your body first ensure your cycle is functioning properly balance it all out. it could very well help.

Margaret - posted on 06/16/2009

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hormone levels are supposed to vary throughout the cycle, it is part of the cycle behaving normally. as the hormone at particular levels trigger particular stages of the cycle. however even given this steps can be taken for estrogen deficiency etc.

hormone imbalances are not something to just brush off they can be treated, and in the more extreme cases cannot be ignored. it can even trigger suicidal behavior extreme depression/anxiety amongst many other symptoms.

first line of action is B6 you can get it off your supermarket shelves it is actually recommended for PMS, PMS symptoms actual PMS not what everyone jokingly refers to as PMS is literally evident at its worst in the 3 days prior to menstruation and the symptoms lift an hour or two before menstruation begins. I know I have it and the B6 manages it. if that hadn't worked it would've been a case of full time antidepressants to treat a case of extreme depression which occurred 3 days of the month. or more HRT which I have never responded too as expected. we didn't bother with the HRT it had already backfired enough when they attempted to treat the endomitriosis.

Rebecca - posted on 06/16/2009

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Quoting Shannon:

 there isnt an easy way to help with hormones of this nature because the levels change daily and differ for each person.  



Yes, this is what my doctor said also! I couldn't remember those exact words when I posted due to fibro fog. Darn fog.--Rebecca

Margaret - posted on 06/15/2009

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Oh Omega 3 is also brilliant for depression and also is great for the joints and bones too....1000-2000mg daily is recommended

Margaret - posted on 06/15/2009

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my pain has been helped and or made worse by HRT at various times and the pain does vary with my cycle but I have endomitriosis so its a bit of a no brainer. however some hormones do act as an antiinflammatory so its not really at all surprising. Vitamin B6 can assist to regulate and balance out your hormones particularly in situations where it is causing depression and anxiety in relation to the imbalance and it works. but you need to take it all the time 100mg of B6 daily for however long it takes not just while the depression is there....

Shannon - posted on 06/15/2009

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I know hormones are connected to my Fibro problems, I have worse muscle pain/weakness before period, I also get tired easier and have sleep problems after period. I read somewhere (sorry, cant recall where, my fibro fog has been really bad last few months) that there isnt an easy way to help with hormones of this nature because the levels change daily and differ for each person. But, Im thinking that if I can take just a certain amount around my period that it could help (just like chocolate, haha).



My doctor is annoying also, and its hard to stay annoyed when he is so cute and is nice overall, I just think he is too busy. I am guessing, like I said I cant recall, but the Fibromyalgia Aware magazine (put out by National Fibromyalgia Association) had the hormone information. I also have depression and anxiety, and its hard to figure out what works and what doesn't when it comes in waves every few months. Frustration should be a symptom.



Wish you all luck.

Angela - posted on 06/15/2009

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thank you so much for your input, i am in the process of finding a new doctor because i swear there is something wrong with my hormones. I hope you get your issue worked out and i will keep posting what i find out. Let's keep in touch.....Angie Borho

Rebecca - posted on 06/15/2009

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I am sure that hormones and fibro are somehow connected. I just do not have proof. I have asked my doctor to check hormones but she says that test is not reliable at this point. My pain gets worse just before my period then after. And, oh how my breasts hurt!! Driving over even a small bump in the road makes me cringe!

Angela - posted on 05/11/2009

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Hi my name is Angela and I was diagnosed last year with breast cancer at the age of 36, since then i am now in perimenopause, however I cant take hormone therapy because of the cancer. You should kick your doctor in the shins and then demand he check all of your hormones! I believe the hormones play a huge roll in anxiety and depression, look on line or go to the library, but I think you are on to something. good luck!!

Christine - posted on 04/29/2009

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i just turned 46 in feb, but i had a hysterectomy several years ago. i have my ovaries and i know i still have some kind of cycle, i just don't know exactly when it starts and ends---i just know my boobs hurt what seems like should be more than normal. i spent 0ver 20 years being pregnant or nursing without much break in between---and now i'm sure i'm in perimenopause. i'm going to do some research and i'll pass on what i find out.

Mary - posted on 04/28/2009

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Hi Christine, I was wondering about the hormone levels myself. Years ago I knew someone from work who had hormone therapy but she has since moved down South somewhere so I don't know how to go about getting the correct doctor or ask the write questions. Like you, I'm afraid they will not do what I'm asking and just check what they want to check. I turned 46 last December and I believe that I am starting menopause. I am having hot flashes but I still get my periods every month. I would really like to know if the hot flashes are from menopause or some kind of hormone issue. Whatever you find out, I'd appreciate you sharing. Whatever I find out, I'll share with you. Good luck!

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