End of year testing

Amy - posted on 04/05/2009 ( 10 moms have responded )

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Does anyone else wish we could teach just to teach and not in a desperate attempt to get these kids to jump through year-end testing hoops?

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Lisa - posted on 04/10/2009

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I'm teaching Kinder this year.....for the first time, I don't have to worry about testing! HURRAY!!!!!

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I'm in CA too and agree that the timing of the tests is really obnoxious. For the HS level, it's more obnoxious. We have to work around AP testing, so we tend to test even EARLIER. The window is set by the silly 85% window in the NCLB guidelines. Unless they change NCLB, the window will stay the same.

Alison - posted on 04/09/2009

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My hand is up. I can't stand the testing and wish that if we really have to give them let them be taken at the end of the year not the end of the 3rd quarter. It is not like we get the data before day one of the school year anyway. I know that here in CA we get the results in late july and don't see it until late Aug. How about let the kids take the test in June and get the data in Aug when we care about it and it would more accurately represent a year of progress!

Also, here in CA, the 8th grade Social Studies test is on material from 6th, 7th and 8th grade, but the Science is only 8th... Who thought of that?

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FYI - state tests are standards-based tests, not standardized tests.
there is a difference. :o) standardization means that the scores are somehow normalized to reflect the population. questions are also written differently.
standards-based tests have questions written to test certain material, and the passing rates are not necessarily based on percentiles, etc. there are just cut-offs.

Cherie - posted on 04/09/2009

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I feel that testing had become the number one priority in our schools today.  So much emphasis is placed on testing that we forget why we are really there.  We have been giving practice test and tutoring students to prepare them for the State test in May.  The students have reached burn out, as well as, the teachers. My son, a straight A student, recently took the state English II writing test.  He told me on the day of the test that he felt really nervous and asked me to pray for him. (He's usually very sure of himself) Upon completion of the test, he began to second guess himself.  Yes, my son knows that learning is important and enjoys learning but why do we put students under so much pressure.  My generation did not have state test and we turned out just fine.  In face, I sometimes think we are more well rounded than the students of today. I have become frustrated with state test and firmly believe we put way too much emphasis on them.

Cherie - posted on 04/09/2009

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I feel that testing had become the number one priority in our schools today.  So much emphasis is placed on testing that we forget why we are really there.  We have been giving practice test and tutoring students to prepare them for the State test in May.  The students have reached burn out, as well as, the teachers. My son, a straight A student, recently took the state English II writing test.  He told me on the day of the test that he felt really nervous and asked me to pray for him. (He's usually very sure of himself) Upon completion of the test, he began to second guess himself.  Yes, my son knows that learning is important and enjoys learning but why do we put students under so much pressure.  My generation did not have state test and we turned out just fine.  In face, I sometimes think we are more well rounded than the students of today. I have become frustrated with state test and firmly believe we put way too much emphasis on them.

Jennifer - posted on 04/09/2009

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Yes, especially since we all know standardized tests are not an accurate measure of a child's intelligence and potential. Also the ACT and SAT--I have a problem with judging children based on a test, where you can pay money for a class on how to pass these. These classes are full of tips (like mark A & D toward the end of the ACT if you run out of time) to help you score higher. If you can loop-hole a test, how can it be an accurate measure?!?!

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i'm a mixed bag. coming from a research background, i understand the value in gathering data. you really can't know what's going on without some kind of data to analyze. whether or not the testing data is reliable is a different matter.

i also know that many of the state tests only require a 60% for a passing rate. yes, it is completely absurd that they test 100% of the material at 80% through the year, but if the students know the 80% really well, then who cares? i do teach high school and so maybe my view of things is different. i know my students will face a slew of other tests and that it'll be part of their collegiate life. i do think it's a little absurd for the younger kiddos. it's irritating that some districts are mandating district benchmark tests to keep track of whether we're on track for the test, taking more days out of instruction. it's irritating that funding is being taken away from "non-tested areas", so our kiddos don't get a real PE program or arts program. anyway, enough ranting.

we should feel lucky. other countries use tests as an exit exam for the next level or grade. we don't.

Nancy - posted on 04/05/2009

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Yes, testing is always an issue.  But I do think it is important to give students the basics before "training" them for testing.  It is so important to improve their reading and writing skills first.  If they become better readers and writers, they will be able to handle any test that comes their way. 

Cassy - posted on 04/05/2009

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This is something that I have wished for.....for so many years. A lot of state school systems are too worried about testing that they have forgotten the real reason that we are there. The children need learning experiences not so many tests. Sometimes I feel like the fun has been taken out of school for children and out of teaching for teachers.



TOO MUCH TEST STRESS!

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