Heated spanking debates

Katherine - posted on 02/03/2011 ( 125 moms have responded )

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WOW, I started a thread about 10 reasons Not to Hit your Child. No biggie I thought and this was days ago. Well they're still at it. How dare I start that conversation? All of these moms are for spanking.
Ok fine.
I'm not
My opinion.
Big deal.
Right?

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Nikki - posted on 02/08/2011

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Oh dear God, another one. I give up for now, I don't have the time or the energy. I get too frustrated. Lack of education is what it all boils down to, that's not to say that parent is stupid; it's just they haven't had the opportunity or taken the time to learn better options. I have worked with many parents who had no idea there were alternatives to smacking their child. Closed minded pro smacking parents annoy the hell out of me, they cannot listen to any form of reason. I always try to offer positive advice and reason but I am over the fact that they always turn nasty. Hell I have even turned into a crazed bitch in some of the debates because they irritate me so much.

Sneaky - posted on 02/08/2011

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Well if it makes you feel better Katherine, I just read the information you posted and it has me reconsidering the occasional smack that my kids get. I do want to do some more research on the subject (thanks for posting the references), but I am happy to admit that I have been wrong and I will be working harder to concentrate on other methods of discipline. Thanks :o)

As to the crazed pro-spanking mums I think it is VERY similar to the mothers that are all for male circumcision - you get a heated debate because these mother can NOT, even for a moment, entertain the thought that they may be doing (or have done) something completely unforgivable to their children. So it is easier to just attack you than to actually THINK about an alternative point of view.

Brianna - posted on 02/08/2011

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I was part of the original debate. I was one of only 3 or 4 that chose the non-spanking side of the debate.
They ATTACKED, and they were viscous. It was ridiculous. =/

I agree: The issue is the uneducated arguments. I was getting so frustrated with the lack of informed, educated debate, and the profound argument of "Well my kids behave. I spank them. There's my proof."
Mine do too, thanks, and I will never spank either one of them. =]

Lacye - posted on 02/07/2011

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I know you aren't saying it about a general topic, but it's still harsh to call a complete stranger a moron. Uneducated, yeah. That's about right, but they aren't morons.



I can understand about not saying anything on certain subjects, hell I do that too.

Renae - posted on 02/07/2011

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Layce - I dont care whether anyone agrees with me, but I'm not talking about people agreeing with my opinion. I am talking about people being completely uninformed as to the scientific research / updates / reasons / facts etc etc into the things they comment on and especially when people say things that are completely untrue and make it downright clear that they know nothing about the topic on which they are commenting. So I guess, when I say morons, I mean people who have opinions on things they know nothing about and insist on sharing those opinions on public forums - that, I cant be bothered with anymore. I am not saying this in relation to any particular thread, I haven't read the thread Katherine started (and probably never will), its just a general gripe I have with CoM at the moment. But I'll get over it. I wont post much for a while and then eventually I'll get sucked back in again. :)

@Amy, thanks for the defence and getting were I'm coming from.

Stifler's - posted on 02/06/2011

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I am getting that way too. There are certain posts I don't comment on because I can't be bothered having the same arguments a thousand times, especially breast vs. formula, discipline, "should we be allowed to choose a c-section", "hubby does nothing and I am cleaning all day", "Why does everyone look down on young mums" style rants.

Iridescent - posted on 02/06/2011

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You're right - I missed it the first time (didn't look far enough back).

Lacye - posted on 02/06/2011

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I dont post on the discipline or spanking threads. Infact, the list of threads I DONT post on is growing fast! A bit over the idiocy I think.... cant be bothered explaining perfectly logical things to morons anymore!



Amy she did say moron. there is her post right there. I didn't say anything that wasn't untrue.



Edit to say one thing....... I know what stupid is. I know the difference between someone calling another person a moron and someone calling a person stupid.

Sneaky - posted on 02/06/2011

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See and that is were the debate starts - I do smack (e.g. one slap on the bottom) if my child does something suicidally wrong (like unstrapping their car seat or trying to run in the parking lot). I do not 'spank' them (multiple hits) because that is just basically beating the shit out of them to relieve your own frustration = child abuse.

Melissa - posted on 02/06/2011

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its not about it being right or wrong. Everyone parents different theres nothing wrong with either way except that I have noticed children who are not smacked are not as well behaved but dont jump on me for it, if someone choses not to smack that is their choice but its not for me

Iridescent - posted on 02/06/2011

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She didn't say moron. She said stupid. Big difference. It has nothing to do with whether they agree with anyone; it has to do with whether they're willing to learn the facts about something so terribly well documented and adjust their behavior accordingly so as to parent appropriately. Stupid means they were taught, they know better, and they still refuse to do anything about it. Moron does not have the same meaning at all.

Lacye - posted on 02/06/2011

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Renae how is a person a moron simply because they don't agree with you? I'm curious.

Renae - posted on 02/05/2011

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Good on you Julianne. I get so sick of repeating myself and reading the stupid things people say that I cant be bothered lately. Good on you for trying to educate them.

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@Renae, i make it a point to post on those threads to educate people. I made several positive disciplining threads..I guess you can say im a bit of a shit disturber when it comes to that. But someone has to advocate for the children who lose their rights because of un-educated parents.

Renae - posted on 02/04/2011

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I dont post on the discipline or spanking threads. Infact, the list of threads I DONT post on is growing fast! A bit over the idiocy I think.... cant be bothered explaining perfectly logical things to morons anymore!

Amber - posted on 02/04/2011

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My child psychology professor (who has a Phd and 30 years of experience) will completely back you up! She's got some very insightful opinions on it...and it would validate yours :)
Ignore them...if they want to terrorize their children, you won't change their minds.

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Haha i did that too...it ended up as i, a close minded reject who was judging other peoples parenting abilities, had no right to post research on why you shouldn't beat your kids.Like its not common sense or anything...no one likes to be told they are wrong. Hitting is wrong though, and i will tell any mother who does it she is wrong for doing so. You want to continue to do so, whatever, when its illegal...you'll realize..

Stifler's - posted on 02/04/2011

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I hate spanking debates. There's always a clown that started their kid on cereal at 2 weeks and who uses hot sauce commenting about disciple, respect, good parenting. It's always ridiculous.

Lacye - posted on 02/04/2011

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which community is this! I want to put in my own opinion. Let's get real here, yes I do agree with spanking but I applaud anybody that doesn't. Just because a person's way of discipline is different than another's gives nobody a right to judge another person.

Iridescent - posted on 02/04/2011

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You have to remember that people whom abuse (or even think they may be abusing) their child will go to drastic lengths to justify their actions.

Sneaky - posted on 02/04/2011

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Geeez Katherine - how dare you actually express an opinion???? Don't you know that is not allowed??? lol.

Gotta love people that have nothing better to do with their days than disagree with a stranger on the internet . . . . :o)

Melissa - posted on 02/03/2011

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lol. some people have way too much time on their hands IMO. I think its stupid to try and abuse people for their views. The way I see people people who dont smack great, but I do. Never saw that thread

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