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Barb - posted on 12/18/2010 ( 23 moms have responded )

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This is a beautifully internationally blended forum with intelligent people from all walks of life. We have ladies from Canada, Australia, New Zealand, England, and the United States. But something that has just really been bothering me lately, and i don't know, maybe i'm just letting it bother me too much but i can't seem to shake it off for some reason.

What is bothering me is calling the U.S. "America" Just, "America" "this is America!" we are "Americans" or "you Americans.." and having it refer to just the people that are in the 50 United States. Last time i looked there was South America, Central America and North America. So when someone says "America" which one are they really referring to and is that just lumping Canada in as well? or lumping the U.S. in with Canada? I guess maybe i'd be more for it if we had their healthcare system. LOL Don't get me wrong, i love Canada, i'd move there if it wasn't a frozen ass tundra half the time. I mean hell, it has great fishing and free health care, what more could a woman want?

Maybe what is bothering me the most is people capitalizing on the name "American" without being accepting of the rest of Americans. Saying stuff like; "we have to maintain tighter boarders and keep America for Americans!" When they're also Americans because they're from Central America! And of course you never see this discussion in keeping Canadians out, although i wonder if Canadians have it to keep the U.S citizens out :) LOL

So i guess that is my rant. U.S. citizens don't monopolize the term "Americans"

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Renae - posted on 12/18/2010

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Huh. Interesting. What I think really doesn't count, since I'm Australian, but here goes anyway...

I thought an "American" was a person who is a citizen of the USA. When we say "Americans" that is what we mean. The country of Argentina is on the continent of South America (I hope otherwise I need a geography lesson!), but an Argentinan is an Argentinan, not an American, just like someone from Mexico is a Mexican, right?? Someone from Canada is a Canadian.

All sounds a bit to complicated for my liking!

Just move to Aus! Things are far more simple, and we have free health care, free university education (well free up front, the government pays and you pay them back), lots of jobs etc.

Didn't help in the slightest did I :) LOL

Jackie - posted on 12/21/2010

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"I am proud to be from the U.S. but sometimes i get so angry and offended at my fellow citizens for the way they treat other people under the guise of being "a good `merican" when they really don't see what jackass's they are."

You'll find assholes anywhere you go. People will find any excuse to be a ass. It's the excuse that people use that give whole groups of people a bad name.

Barb - posted on 12/21/2010

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i see the point, country vs continent. i personally call myself a U.S. citizen. You all put it so well and it's great we can discuss our differences.

Australia is unique in that it is a continent and a country.

And Vicki, i wonder what i am talking about sometimes as well.

I am proud to be from the U.S. but sometimes i get so angry and offended at my fellow citizens for the way they treat other people under the guise of being "a good `merican" when they really don't see what jackass's they are.

Jackie - posted on 12/20/2010

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"I thought an "American" was a person who is a citizen of the USA. When we say "Americans" that is what we mean. The country of Argentina is on the continent of South America (I hope otherwise I need a geography lesson!), but an Argentinan is an Argentinan, not an American, just like someone from Mexico is a Mexican, right?? Someone from Canada is a Canadian."

That's what I was going to say. It's kinda like comparing apples to oranges. Country vs. Continent. I'm American but my neighbor from Mexico is Mexican.

Renae - posted on 12/20/2010

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Emma, I thought Vicki was responding to my comments about Aus having free health care and tertiary education when she said "you have it good".

I think our minimum wage is something like $15 per hour. And the exchange rates are pretty much dollar for dollar last time I looked.

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well yes, you guys do have a good worldwide rep for that but have no fear, canadians as diverse of a country as we are can be the exact same. racist? us? of course not...cause we are better at hiding it.

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yes, I was Renae. just too laz to scroll up and see your name. apologies for confusion. next time I scroll :)

Amber - posted on 12/19/2010

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I always say the US when people online ask me where I'm from.
I do think that the reason we're called "Americans" is because our country is called the United States of America....and it might be weird to call us Statians or Unitians...
SO, I call myself an American because of that. But I refer to the country as the US.
Did I explain that well?

Katherine - posted on 12/19/2010

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Jodi has said how much minimum wage is. You guys have it great! Minimum here is $7 an hour.

Stifler's - posted on 12/19/2010

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I was just sayin about the nationalities, we're all "Australian" but from elsewhere.

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No, I know you didn't. I just admire the huge differences in our minimums compared to yours. Ours are below the poverty line and unliveable.

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As a Canadian I've also referred to the country being The States and people being American. Til I lived in italy, then I heard Americans referring to the country as America. We seriously have only really said The States (as in going shopping to The States :)

I think you guys do monopolize the term Americans for the same reason mentioned above in that Americans are Americans, Canadians are Canadians, etc. But I don't want to discredit what you are saying as you've got a good point.

In Canada as well none of us are true Canadians, just adopted ones! We've also taken the land from people who did not call themselves Canadians and now it really is such a joke (our anthem could use updating to a few words) since people are seriously from all over the world.

And hey, our helathcare system is good but by no means perfect! Deteriorating over the years, but I know, still pretty good. Now to the Australian above...you guys do have it good! And OMG your minimum wage is actually liveable!

And agree with fellow Cdn above. Here in Toronto weather can be grey and slushy and depressing and cold but nothing like the winters I remember as a kid. Climate change or what?! Don't know weather to be happy or worried. Figure worried but then that gets in the way of all the other stuff to worry about!

Barb, move to Vancouver Island. Gorgeous, lush, green...if you can deal with the rain. Rain even at Chrismas I remember.

Stifler's - posted on 12/19/2010

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It's as bad in Australia! There's no such thing as " Australian" we stole our culture from a million other cultures and now people are like IMMIGRANTS THIS BOAT PEOPLE THAT ... we were all boat people and immigrants once

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oh i just noticed the "frozen ass tundra" comment....since the climate has been changing, Canada is effected drastically. Just since i was a child the amount of snow is insanely different. When i was 5, my mom use to tell me not to touch the power lines when i went outside(the snow was too high), usually a week every winter the schools are shut down because they needed to be dug out when i was growing up. Snow started in october and didnt go away until april, sometimes may. NOW on the other hand. Snow lasts maybe a month, and we get maybe 2 feet of it. I haven't seen a good storm in at least ten years.(besides white won, but that didnt really hit my area.)

Katherine - posted on 12/18/2010

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I see what you mean. It's a melting pot of different races and cultures. Just because you live somewhere doesn't make it YOU.
I mean if I moved to Ireland, would I be Irish?
No one is 100% American unless you're a Native. Man am I making any sense?

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