Advocare For ADHD

Virginia - posted on 04/03/2014 ( 26 moms have responded )

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Hi, my name is Virginia and my 7 year old was diagnosed with ADHD last year. I have not medicated him based on what other people have told me and what I have read about the side effects. But, lately his hyper-ness and inability to focus have gotten worse. I am always asking parents for advice but keep getting the same responses; "he probably needs meds" or "He'll grow out of it". I felt so helpless and I didn't want to just sit back and watch my sons behavior decline. So, I finally asked my husband to get involved and ask some of his co-workers, who are teachers, if they have kids of their own who have ADHD, and if so, how do they help them. He asked one teacher and she recommended Advocare Spark Energy Drink which she gives to her 12 year old. I started to research it and came across Texas Techs research and other testimonials and I am convinced I want to try it. I also read a blog of a parent who gives it to her 4 year old. I just have a few questions:
1. Is there Spark for kids under 12? I noticed recommended age is 12 and up. If not, how much should you give to a kid under 12?
2. Are there any side effects?
3. Where can we buy Spark?
Please, if you use spark for a child under 12, please reply to my post.

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Indiana - posted on 05/06/2014

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One of my sons has ADD and another has borderline OCD w/ ADD. A friend of my who is a nurse recommended BioGlan Kids Smart Hi DHA Omega-3 Fish Oil, Chewable Burstlets Berry. I also do not give them soda, high sugar juices, I reduced to nearly no sweets only on holidays and special events, plenty of water, high protein meals for kids appropriate portions. This has done wonders for the boys. I have them doing Yoga at home and 5 to 10 minutes meditation whenever possible. I also have them in sports for each season. This allow them to release their excess energy. Just some ideas that might help other mothers out.

Supporting our children is our main focus.

Decimus - posted on 05/02/2014

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You made a very smart move by not medicating him with amphetamines. You are one of the few parents with a brain in America apparently. Ritalin, adderall, vyvanse, concerta, and crystal meth are all amphetamines and work by the same mechanism of action. Just like methamphetamine methylphenidate will cause a forest fire of brain damage by destroying the dopamine pathways.

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If you want to cure your sons 'adhd' find him a kind male teenager or 20 something to hang out with him and be his buddy. Hire a male babysitter under 30 who wants to hang out with him everyday. Watch his adhd melt away. Boys crave affection and friendship with a young man more than anything else. It is the holy grail of boyhood, to have real freindship with an older boy. Boys evolved to need bonding with men so that they learn to hunt and survive and live in the tribe, something women cannot give them. Since boys are surrounded by women and boys constantly, all their teachers are women, usually their mom raises them, all their afterschool activities are run by women, they get no bonding and comradery with men. They become bored and dispondant and loose motivation in life, because the whole goal of boyhood, learning to become a man, has been subverted. Find a gentle fun young guy who likes boys and will be your sons buddy and his world will change. Having a dad doesn't quite do it because he needs an older friend not an authority figure. The guy has to be willing to shed his pride and become an equal with your son so they can be genuine friends. Try it and see if I'm wrong.

Robin - posted on 06/02/2014

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There are a lot of modifications they can make for him at school. You can ask for an IEP or 504. Google "IEP suggestions for adhd" or "classroom modifications for adhd" and you should get a bunch.

I highly recommend reading Helping Hyperactive Kids A Sensory Integration Approach. Also Super parenting for ADHD. Those two books have helped us immensely. I also appreciate everything by Dr. Hallowell.

Make sure you get the correct diagnosis. ADHD is both over diagnosed and under diagnosed. Meaning there are kids with it not diagnosed and kids diagnosed who don't have it.

Do what works best for your family. We used caffeine for our son (chai or coffee) for awhile but we realized that if we were using a stimulant anyway, why not use one that had been extensively tested in children? Were so glad we switched... He had so many side effects on caffeine and not many on adderall. Read the list of side effects for each supplement or food you are planning on trying and then compare to prescriptions before deciding which is safer! I found out that stimulants are very well studied and if used correctly can be very safe.

My son has ocd and ADHD and tourettes syndrome. At first my husband and I didn't want to do medication, but we eventually decided he was suffering so much that we should give it a try. We're so glad we did!

That said, not everyone has the same experience. In our case, he's become happier, has a wider range of emotions, right now he's singing to himself as he works on a geoboard. I know of other kids who become flat and withdrawn on stimulants. One thing you can ask for if you decide to go that route is a cheek swab that tests if they metabolize various medications. There were several my son didn't metabolize correctly and I was so glad we tested! We didn't have to try lots of different things... We could jump straight to a better option.

Moms of kids with ADHD face so much judgment already. Remember there are pros and con's to every decision you make for him. Don't listen to anyone who says you have to do one thing or another. Do what's right for your family. And remember that ADHD is a no-fault diagnosis. You didn't make him have it. It's more inheritable than diabetes. It's a genetic neurologic disorder that's much maligned in our society because it's so misunderstood.

Kim - posted on 04/14/2014

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My children's pediatrician recommends Advocare for children other than medicating for ADHD. My son hasn't been diagnosed with ADHD, but his school seems to think he has it. https://www.advocare.com/140425048/Store/ItemDetail.aspx?itemCode=A4095&id=search&flavor=M&size=P. You don't have to order it from me, I just thought I would put the link here so you can research it.
Besides Spark, she also recommends taking out red dye and as much refined sugar as possible. I have become a distributor in the last week under her so I can get the discount for future orders and so far my kids seem to like Spark. Their ages are (6 and 8).
As far as side effects, I just read the label and it says keep out of reach of children like most vitamins. My sister in law gives it to both of her boys that are 6 and 8 y.o.; Some mothers at my church have children about the same age and also use it. I think you just need to monitor it, and if they are sensitive to caffeine you may have to back off some because it has 120 mg. of caffeine per serving. Caffeine has been known to curb ADHD patients (they call it the poor man's riddlin). Hope this helps.

Jenni - posted on 06/22/2014

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I am a 40 year old mother of 2 boys. My oldest son, age 9, wad diagnosed with ADHD, 3 years ago. I, too have been diagnosed with ADD and I have done a great deal of research, both for adults and children. My husband was totally against medication for our son until he spoke with the psychologist who did the testing. Let me first say, that ADD and ADHD, are both very real and can be very disabling for a child and adult if not treated properly. Also, as a social worker, I feel strongly about NOT letting a pediatrician diagnose ADD/ADHD. A trained child psychologist, who will take the time to test your child, rather than based a diagnosis off of a teacher or parents word is highly recommended! Once my son was properly diagnosed, the pediatrician and psychologist then discussed the best options for my son. I studied all of the medications and refused many that were recommended, for various reasons. However, it took time, trial and error, and open communication to find the right medicine for my son. All children are different and what works for one may not work for another and every child reacts differently to medications. Not to sounderstand like my son was a test subject, but it took several different meds to find one that worked well for him with the least amount of side effects. EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT ADHD!!!! I, too take medication to help with my ADD. One important thing to know about all stimulants is the fact that when a child (and adult) takes a med and it is wearing off, there are mood swings that are part of the diagnosis and medication. My child, at first, was being bullied in school because his medicine wore off more quickly than expected. Therefore, he was going through these emotional roller coaster rides at school! He is now on Daytana (transdermal patch) and the medication lasts up to 11 hours. He just finished 4th grade with straight A's, scored all 5's on his EOG (end of the year test...not sure if other states have this, but 5 is the highest possible score), and was tested and will be placed on Academically Gifted classes next year. I know that without his medicine this would not be possible. He would be just as smart, but unable to apply himself. Please do not do your child a disservice by not trying medication. He is not a zombie, his personality doesn't change, he doesn't walk around in a fog...etc. He can simply function and concentrate on what is happening in the classroom and in his everyday life. He still has minor mood issues when the meds wear off, but he is at home where I can see what is happening and deal with any issues that come up. Frankly, he is getting to a point where he knows when the meds are wearing off and he simply removes himself from a situation that may be upsetting and comes out of his room when he feels better. I am thankful for the medicine and wouldn't trade it for anything!

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Natalie Delacroix - posted 2 days ago

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There is an effective and non-drug approach. My clinic Cerebral Fitness Inc has a brain based approach that is evidence-based and is considered a Level-1 Best Support by the American Academy of Pediatrics. If you are in another area you should be able to find a therapist who can help you. Do not give up hope. Also please have your child get an IEP and all needed therapies and accommodations at school.

Reading: ADD the 20 hour Solution, Brian's Legacy, A Symphony in the Brain.

Dr DeLaCroix, Cerebral Fitness Inc

Melissa - posted 6 days ago

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I have an 8 yr old son who is ADHD. I gave in to the schools repeated requests to medicate him and all was well for the first couple of years. He finished kindergarten with great reviews from the teacher. He made it through first grade with only minor hand writing issues. Then in second grade he came to me and complained that his chest was hurting. I immediately stopped his meds and started trying to get him prescribed a different, non-amphetamine, medication. We had to wait 3 months to get it all worked out and a different medication started. My son told me 5 to 10 times a week that he missed his medicine and wanted it back. He was smart enough to know he got into trouble less while on his meds (better impulse control). He was smart enough to know that it was easier to learn in class while on his meds (he told me it makes his mind quit being noisy). Long story short, as a parent, we all want to avoid uneccessary medications and to do what is best for our children. ADHD exists... it is real..and when it is bad enough,it needs medication. Energy drinks are unregulated for the most part. There is very little oversight in what ingredients they are including or the long term effects on children. ADHD medications, on the other hand, are rigorously tested and studied to make them as safe as possible. The energy drink likely works because it acts as an amphetamine to the child. Wouldn't you rather use a tested and studied and regulated medication over a drink? Good luck and I hope you and your child find the balance and answers you need.

Veronica - posted on 07/23/2014

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Alot of people say that the medication isnt good ...HOWEVER, i have an 8 yr old that, as his mother, always felt that something was a little off about how he acted ...people kept telling me that "oh hes just being a boy" or "he'll grow out of it" ...well, that was 4 yrs ago and since then, its just gotten worse ...now it has affected his school work and relationships with his peers. I'm currently in talks with his pediatrician to look at all available options because I too chose not to medicate but the situation is out of control at this point ...I would say stay in constant communication with the pediatrician and as his mom, do what you feel in your heart of hearts is the best for him ...Hope this helps a little bit. Good luck.

Jessica - posted on 07/16/2014

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Hi, I have a son who is 9 now and when we took him to his doctor to discuss his hyper active issues, she said to look at his diet, she did not try to medicate or anything, she said to check his sugar/ processed food intake and we changed what he eats for the most part and he is now better, almost 80% better than he was 2 years ago. It is amazing to me how much crap they put into our food and we feed it to children whose bodies don't know how to handle it.
Try changing the foods your son eats, lots of good healthful fruits and veggies, limit his dairy intake and add lots of good proteins and whole foods as someone here already said. I would say to read labels and if they have more than 4 or 5 ingredients, especially Added sugar, don't buy it.
That's my experience with it. I didn't want to medicate either, and I didn't have to, just find foods your child will eat and make them fun if they are something your kid doesn't like. I tried juicing veggies and fruits and my kids love it.
Just my advice here, not a doctor or anything though. Good Luck. Its not easy raising kids these days.

Emily - posted on 07/02/2014

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I pediatric NICU Nurse, an mom not 1 but 2 boys with FXS, ASD, ADHD, FAS and my little one has kabuki syndrom , as well as being classified as non-verbal. I would NEVER consider giving them Spark! The GMOs are so not good for them! I only give my children products that are clean, organic and non-GMO and CF! I had one heck of a time finding the right product, but I finally did! As so so thankful! I started my kids on Zrii products! Developed by Dr. Deepak Chopra, and the only products endorsed my the world famous, Chopra Center. Zrii, NutriiVeda is a meal replacement shake that had blown me away. Please read the attached article. I also give my boys Zrii, Accell (Energy Drink) The clean caffeine does have a calming effect, and we have seen great improvement in focus, attention span and aggression has not been an issue since they have been on the products! Please feel free to email me, I will answer any and all questions regarding these products. Zrii products are all 100% guaranteed! http://emilyhawkins.shopzrii.com
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Kiyoshi - posted on 06/24/2014

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Wow, there are really a lot of mothers out there having ADHD kids. I always thought Im being punished by God to give me a son with ADHD and I don't even know how to handle him. Excuse me, I have a 9yr old son diagnose with ADHD when he was 5yrs old I think, bc my mom notice it first and insisted that my son needs help. I on the other hand is not voted to have my son drink any medicine and think my son is just too smart and I just don't know how to raise him. Im a single mom. Fist b4 my son went to first grade he was already drinking RITALIN which is recommended by doctors here in Taiwan in one day session only and my mom thinks its helps a lot since my son is not being hyper anymore, but I think it made him looks unhappy and when the medicine wore of he would be like free from stretch jacket and go wild. He took it a year when I finally stop giving him any before he even finish first grade, not untill when he start his second grade that it starts to fall out again, he keeps forgetting/losing his things, he is quite good kid and always stands out for smaller kids being bully(his taller in class) which makes him target by group bullies in his classroom,he does not fight back thinking it is wrong to hurt others,so we change school. and at the other school the teacher becomes my problem, she said my son is not attentive and I told her my son is ADHD so in order to work it out we went back to RITALIN which the teacher found helpful to her, but my son keeps telling me he doesnt have appetite to eat and always feels dizzy, that I stop it in just a month after we got back with the medicine. I told my mom that Ritalin is not the answer and its making my sons brain stupid, so she said we try the Psychiatrist recommended by my son asthma doctor.(yes he also has asthma) and the that psychiatrist recommended us PIRACETAM & CHROLINE(PROVIGIL) taken together. And right now I think it controlled his aggressiveness and behave well without feeling restricted, and he no longer complain the headaches. But I did a research what is the medicine for, and the teacher is still being pain in the ass and keep insisting to give my son a Ritalin on her own b/c she thinks the medicine my son is having now does not work even after I told her what is the caused of Ritalin to my son. so right now im transferring again my son in another school before I lose control with that smart ass teacher. (last time she phone me if she can give my son Ritalin which she still have in hand( b/c back then she would ask my son to give her the tablets so she can advice him to drink when needed b/c my son tends to forget to drink the 2nd time), I told her no,the doctor already told me to stop that medication.)
Anyway, Im learning something in every comment in here and I do not feel alone anymore. Kuddos for all us mothers who only wants all the best help for our kids without damaging their smart brains.

Rita - posted on 06/21/2014

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Energy drink for a child already with too much energy? Must be like I heard from my dad about coffee-caffeine to combat nerves. First have eyes and hearing checked so you know he hears and sees alright. He could see okay but have eye muscle problem when reading. Talk face to face with your child and observe expressions of comprehension. Learning could become (concentration problem) but if his interests are motivated he will show how smart he is. I had to keep my ADHD boy busy in controlled sports. My grand daughter is ADHD and was raised to control her impulsiveness with strong consequences. They feel secure if rules presented and you stick with them - routine. Give him choices instead of demands - lay out 2 choices of outfits for school and let him choose one. " If you clean up your room first then you can....." You can go to ....house after you help me do...." Give consequences - most importantly, follow through. If you give a time limit that's reasonable (they tend to dream) and the child doesn't do it, he does not go to his best friend's b-day party. It's not easy. Praise, listen, lots of laughter, focus on talents, have him repeat back what you say and check comprehension. Skim library books for ideas. They didn't have any when I needed to read up on ADD back then. You are the adult in charge, he is the child. Best to you.

Elizabeth - posted on 06/13/2014

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I have only scanned the comments on this.. but has anyone mentioned just getting more fruits and vegetables in your child's diet? I know how incredibly hard that is though, which is why I am forever grateful that a family member introduce a product to me that is whole food, fruits and vegetables. I have heard of some positive effects that this product has offered to children with both ADHD & Autism, along with many other conditions. I do know that Advocare does have nutrients and vitamins in their products, but they are isolated. What I have learned, from being very health conscious, is that a lot of the times our bodies do not know what to do with isolated vitamins or nutrients. What I have my kids on are the chewable version of this product. They are just like gummie vitamins that you can get at the store, except when I look at the ingredients, it list actual food and not things that I cannot even pronounce. I am also a distributor for these products. Feel free to friend me or message me on facebook.
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Ellisa - posted on 06/10/2014

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GMO's aren't good period, especially with health concerns. I'm a distributor with Plexus and we have many testimonies of young people (with their doctors' approvals) using our pink drink Slim and our unique probiotic, ProBio5, to help with symptoms of ADHD. Our products are GMO free, gluten free, dairy free, and most natural. If you want to read the ingredients in Slim & ProBio5, you can see that from my website... www.plexusslim.com/ellisamceuen

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I can add you to lead you to some group pages where you can ask specific questions.

With that said, run whatever product you choose by your son's doctor. Because you don't want to medicate your son conventionally, which I applaud you for, you'll need to become a label reader if you're not already. Avoid artificial ingredients, refined sugars, and refined carbohydrates. Also, learn what refined sugars are...companies are sneaky and give them specific names to throw people off.

I hope the best for you & your son.

Julie - posted on 06/10/2014

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Hi, my daughter was diagnosed as having ADHD and like you, I refused to go down the Ritalin route. I did plenty of research and eventually settled on checking her allergies, having her hearing and sight checked and then changing her diet. In South Africa we have a range of books called "Eating for Sustained Energy" and these were great recipe books for ADD & ADHD sufferers - great recipes and advice. We also only allowed sweets, certain cereals, fried foods etc occasionally. Another great find was a homeopathic tablet called Bright Spark and I am sure there is an equivalent in your country. Congratulation in taking the better, alternative route. It might take a bit longer to get his system in a routine but its worth it in the long run. My daughter was risking not advancing in school to being almost top of her class once we did this. Good Luck, Jules

Sara - posted on 06/08/2014

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Hi Heather Griffith,
how old are your children? how u mange with the amount u give,i have 9 years old girl with adhd please i really need help, I'm considering to try spark??

Kristin - posted on 06/03/2014

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Delinda - posted on 05/31/2014

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My son has dylexcia, he's in 3rd grade and struggles in reading, he's doing good in math,science and social studies its just his reading. The school retained him. Hes in 504 plan but still no progress. Help can i refuse him being detained?

Kathy - posted on 05/31/2014

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Everyones child is different and not everyone will have the same results as someone elses child with any of the suggestions.
My child grew up with ADD and as an adult still struggles with it. She has a son who is ADHD. I wont go into all the things we have tried, medications and non medications, but I will say a lot of Dr advice and a lot of research have gone into the mix. He is now on a medication that works for him, along with restricting sugars, eating a lot of fruits and vegetables instead of processed foods.
Please do not make others feel that they are doing something wrong if they are using medications and are successful. I do not believe in just being lazy and throwing a pill at a child, but I also dont believe in withholding a medication that truly helps, either.

Shannon - posted on 05/22/2014

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My son is also 7 but was diagnosed at 5 he is also autistic,we tried the caffeine way for awhile but no help then I went to see Tempel Grandin speak and met with her after,she was the one who finally convinced us to see a child neurologist for help. We did and we chose to use medication and luckily the meds ( focalin xr) only has loss of appitite as side effect which after a year on it we have not seen! But it has helped tremendously . But that is our son and what he needed,you need to do what feels right for your child! But see a child neurologist if you have not already,sometimes it could be taking one small thing out of the diet or the use of caffeine but talk to a doctor before giving any stimulants to a child under 12! Good luck!

Michele - posted on 05/18/2014

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It scares me giving Spark to young children as it clearly states for ages 18 and older on the packaging and the dosage of caffeine is almost 3 times the amount per serving for young children. Doctors recommend no more than 45 mg caffeine twice a day.

Heather - posted on 05/08/2014

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Omg I love Spark I givr all my kids it in the morning. And one of my sons had ADHD & O.D.D (Oppositional defiant disorder) it has made a huge differance. Plus my husband and I use it. I make smoothies and slushies with it. :-D medicine should be a last resort in my opinion best of luck love.

Jamie - posted on 04/22/2014

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I would not recommend Advocare as it contains gmo. What I've found to be most helpful is Visi collagen protein chews that are 100% natural, non gmo, gluten free, whey free, soy free, etc. If you want any more info, feel free to email me. hendershot.jlee@gmail.com

Jody - posted on 04/17/2014

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My daugher has adhd and she drinks spark. She is 9. I became a distributor of spark for discounts but also for the income and time freedom. if you want more information about Spark you can email me. We always would recommend consulting a physician first. Here is a product page for Advocare https://www.advocare.com/130325237/Store/ItemDetail.aspx?itemCode=A2093&id=E&flavor=E&size=C
if your interested in ordering you can order from there and look at and print the product page or you can contact me also at wftxdawn@yahoo.com .
Please contact me for more info.
Jody

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