Stubborn 16month old

Amma - posted on 05/02/2010

I have a son born nov 11 2008.He walks and run when he was 8month.He is so strong,he says,thank you,bye bye, 123, he answer phone. sometimes i can't belive it when he say some words.Be patient people,every child is different.

Sarah - posted on 05/02/2010

hi my daughter was born on the 17-11-08 and she can walk,talk,run an do almost everthing that my 3 year old can do iv jus started to potty train her an shes doin very good at it

Marcy - posted on 05/02/2010

Hi Torey,

I just came across your post. Yes, my daughter was born Nov 2008 (17mo old) and is only taking 1-2 steps between furniture or mom/dad. She scoots and crawls just fine and we just think she's too lazy right now. We work with her everyday to walk from one of us to something she really wants (ie. crackers). I have a son who walked at 14mo old and I have a more relaxed parenting style and know that I can't compare; she'll walk soon.

Beki - posted on 04/28/2010

My son was born 4/11/08 he isn't walking or talking!!!!!

Cyrile - posted on 04/27/2010

my little boy was born November 20,2008, he started walking when he was 14 months, he can say some words like dada, mommy, " apu" in filipino (grandma), "no" and "all gone"... and the rest is baby talk (he can talk straight but you can't understand it)..he can also count from one.... two...tee (three) with his fingers.. try to sing some nursery rhyme songs, maybe that will help your kid. keep listening to music.

Nicole - posted on 04/25/2010

I have a little girl born 5th November 2008 (5 weeks early) She started walking about a month ago on her own. But doesn't say to many words, which i have been concerned about at times but i guess babies/toddlers/children do things in their own time.

Ashley - posted on 04/25/2010

my daughter, Nov. 20th 2008, walks and runs around on her own.. unless she gets mad then she'll throw a fit and throw herself down and refuse to budge. She's very.. outgoing I guess would be a good word for it... then again with the tantrums she throws I'm kind of glad she can't talk yet.. She says a few words here and there but I'd rather not get a mouthful from a 17 month old. :p

Janice - posted on 04/24/2010

I have a daughter that was born in Nov 2008, and she still is working on walking. She just started walking a few steps at a time. She never crawled though. She sits on her bottom and inches. I know that you had this advice before but each child is different and do things on their own time. I know that it can be frustrating. My son walked at 6-7 months so I assumed that my daughter would.

Andrea - posted on 04/23/2010

My daughter, born 11/6/08 is VERY Stubborn (yes, VERY scorpio!)! When she was a newborn, she didn't like switching sides when I would nurse, She refused a bottle from her dad when he tried having visitation for 10 hours when she was a couple of months old.. She went the whole 10 hours with NOTHING! So her stubbornness won over her dad's persistence. She was walking 3 days after 9 months. She has been talking since birth, but finally able to say words we understand by 8 months (started with "mom" but it is now momma. She says more words than I can list, but has been using baby signing since 8 months. She has been asking to go potty ever since seeing a neighbor (almost 3 years) use one, and likes "big cups" not sippy cups. She likes to play with older boys since they keep up with her, and teach her new fun things (like climbing ladders, and standing while going potty-she still tries to stand sometimes and tinkles on her legs!). I am patient, but my daughter is NOT! I think sometimes I would love a baby who couldn't move a bumbo near the dresser and use it as a step-stool to get into everything "out of reach" or pull out drawers and climb the dressers when I try to leave for a moment to go to the bathroom!

Each baby has their own timing! Be blessed for the timing of your baby! Things go so quickly!!!

Rachael - posted on 04/23/2010

I have a very Stubborn Baby Girl! She was born on 11/6, and she was walking by 10 months, since then she has been running. She doesn't say much, Dada is her favorite, and everyone is Dada. She says peoples names like Heidi (babysitters dog) so all Dogs are Heidi and Nana. She also says Apple, Happy, Hi, Bye Bye and Please. We are working on other words, and on a rare occasion she will repeat them, but mostly these are the words she sticks with. Also every animal says Arf.

I would just say give it some time, when they are ready they will pick it up quickly. My daughter didn't really start saying much until the past month.

Jennifer - posted on 04/23/2010

Yes!!! I have a very stubborn baby. She insists that every animal says MEOW! Don't even try telling her otherwise, she will just meow loudly back at you. The only words she says besides is "Daaaa-DEE" and "Ma Ma". My older two were much more advanced in vocabulary. So I've had to learn not to compare her to them, or even other babies her age. As for walking, she refuses to hold my hand. It's so difficult to communicate "safety" to a little one that is so focused on other things that she won't pay attention.
My advise to you, which may have been given already, is to go to a park on a day that there are a lot of little one's there. Make sure baby is well fed and has had a good nap, so that their mood will be the most pliable. Once baby sees all the kids running around, they may join in. Perhaps start in the sand box so you can sit and play for awhile with baby in a smaller area, then baby can branch out a bit.

As for talking, I wish I knew. If you're sure that there isn't a hearing issue, then it will come. Perhaps in full sentences! You'll have to let us know!

Louise - posted on 04/23/2010

Hi my daughter walked on her own at 11 months but doesnt say many words at all mainly points but my first daughter didnt walk until 17 and a half months so i wouldnt worry they r all totally different and walk on their own when they r ready.

Tonya - posted on 04/23/2010

MY SON WAS BORN NOV. 21 2008 AND HAS BEEN WALKING SINCE 12 MONTHS. HE HAS STARTED TALKING MORE LATELY. HE SAYS MOM, DAD, JUICE, SHOES, PLEASE, THANKS, MMMMM(WHEN HE WANTS FOOD), AND A FEW OTHER WORDS. BUT MY NEPHEW WAS BORN IN AUG. 2008 AND CAN TALK IN SENTANCES AND SAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING, SO MAYBE IT IS NOVEMBER BABIES OR LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAYS THEY WILL DO THINGS IN THEIR OWN TIME! BE PATIENT AND AS LONG AS YOU WORK WITH YOUR CHILD THEN YOU ARE DOIN WELL. HOPE I HAVE HELPED!

Hannah - posted on 04/22/2010

I have a little boy born 12th november 2008 and yeah he said HEAPS of words, only crawled 2 weeks before his 1st birthday and walked at 14 months so was slow in that department but he babbles all sorts of things, likes to copy at the moment so im calling him parrot lol! and he copies the television also :/ I wouldn't worry hun at least he is saying mum n dad, some kids at 18 months that i know say NOTHING! She will get there, i always say to mylself in situations like this "he wont/will be doing it when he is 21yo" so why rush, he wont be only saying mum dad at that age so dont stress darls she will get there :)

Freedom - posted on 04/22/2010

Mirrhya, that a great way to look at it. Thanks for that. My third daughter born 11/5/08, walks, runs, climbs but will only say momma, da, and dog. Tonight she said mommaaaaa I then asked her to say dada and she said unhha ( thats no) and she refussed to say anything else. Very interesting how theses nov '08 babies are setting their own tone.

Kim - posted on 04/22/2010

It is so encouraging to read these post as people said above! My tiwns were born 11-10-08, one is walking, running, climbing all over but the other isn't quite walking yet. Both of htem are very vocal but don't say much more than mama and dada. They were born at 25 weeks so i was worried that they might be delayed developmentally but it looks like I'm seeing what everyone else is seeing :)!

Mirrhya - posted on 04/22/2010

I was told by an infant development worker that they get to control 3 things. When they talk, when they eat and when they toilet train. You can encourage them but you cannot make them do it. Just be patient and they will get it.

Michelle - posted on 04/21/2010

I have a boy born on November 4 and he is taking his sweet time doing everything. My Child Health nurse says that it's normal, and he seems happy enough, I just put it down to being the third child and being lazy, when everyone else does everything for him.

I've found that the more I talk and sing to him though, the more he speaks. I keep my words as simple as possible and he seems to understand what I am saying well enough. I hope this helps you, relax and enjoy your child, they are only small for a short time.

Lilyian - posted on 04/21/2010

No need to worry about it! If you really want your baby to talk - just tell him/her "sorry, I do not know what you want, you have to talk to me!". Don't rush the walking part - the longer they are on the floor, the longer "freedom" you have. Enjoy it while it lasts. Before long you will wish that they are quiet and stationery!

Anjeli - posted on 04/21/2010

All the moms are right! Do not worry about it. My little girl was born Nov. 4th and she is walking and climbing stairs but only will say "daddy", "more" and "uh-oh". Every once in awhile shw will say "mama". the songs are a great idea also try reading to her, point to the words as you read. Any of the Dr. Suess books are great! I woujld not worry about it right now.

Michelle - posted on 04/21/2010

My daughter walked at 12 months, so when my son wasn't walking at 16 months I was concerned why he hadn't picked it up as fast.
He would crawl very fast and pull himself up and hold onto funiture but not let go and take off.
I was determined to get him walking before we went on an overseas holiday, so everyday if we had to go from one room to another I would hold his two hands and encourage walking saying "let's go walkies", no more carrying him or crawling, after a two weeks of this he only needed one hand for stability.
After 6 weeks of taking him for "walkies" around the house he forgot all about crawling and thought walking was a much faster option of getting from A to B.
My son never used a walker as I don't believe in them, it just came down to repetition and practice makes perfect.
And yes he was walking by himself by the time we left for our holiday 6 weeks later.

Tara - posted on 04/21/2010

i have a stubborn and hard headed little boy born nov. 20, 2008. and he walks and runs but he only talks when he wants to. but i have always been told that when it is time he will do it. tho hope this helps

Kayla - posted on 04/21/2010

Hi Torey, I can't relate to your question but my daughter was born Nov 10, 2008 and runs now instead of walking and talks to no end saying dog, PaPa, MaMa, Night Night etc(now sometimes you have no idea of the jibberish she is saying) but she has started putting words together like dog bark and she will repeat love you when you tell her that. All kids develop differently, I have a friend who's daughter is 2 mths older than mine and she basically says momma and daddy and maybe a few others, So don't get discouraged but something you can try, is everytime I said a word starting when she was like 10 mths old I would say can you say that and we would work on words like that. Not sure if it was right but being a first time mom I figured it couldn't hurt. Good Luck and let me know how it goes she will wake up one morning and not stop talking or walking and then you will wish you could go back :)

Flugel - posted on 04/21/2010

Firstly all children are different, if your child has been seen by your doctor and he is happy with their development then you have nothing to worry about. Some kids just take longer than others. Have you ever seen a child of school going age still crawling? No. your child will walk when they are ready, but I do suggest that you do not carry them around, at this age they are old enough to understand you when you say No.

both my sons started walking a few days after their 1st birthdays. My youngest is 17 months and in the last month he has started saying a few more words, he now says Mama, Dada, Juice, Yes, bike. He is learning every day but I make an effort to sit with him and show him things and say the words out clearly.

Pamela - posted on 04/21/2010

My son was born on 11 Nov 08 and also doesn't walk yet. My pediatrician told me it is most probably because he's been teething constantly (has 16 teeth already) and that affects his ears and balance.

Maybe you could look into something similar?

I know all to well how frustrating it can be and fully understand your concerns! I feel exactly the same way.

Sarah - posted on 04/20/2010

my daughter borm25 november just started wlking a few days ago and before that refused to even walk holding hands! then one day she just stood up and walked. the closest to words she says are uh-oh and animal noises such as moo and woof but thats about it. im not worried about it at all as shes fully functioning in every way docters can test. The only thing I do worry about is the people that continuosly ask me if shes 'slower' than her sister. shes just developing at a different rate.

Sherri - posted on 04/20/2010

orey- my November boy is my 2nd child. walked at 9 months, but doesn't even say mommy or daddy. people really are right when they say each kid in their own time. Ea kid develops differently and develops different skills at different times. if u are really concerned about child's _ability_ to walk or talk then call the Heartland AEA in Johnston. They do free screening for children under 3 and can give you strategies. When my 2 year old still wasn't talking they gave me strategies and he was up in running (or talking!) in two weeks. They will come to your house. It's a great free service.

SUZANNE - posted on 04/20/2010

my son is also stubborn about talking. he walks and runs but he didnt until he was 13 months. we have a physical therapist that comes and works with him physically {tortacolis}and on all developmental levels. she said all children are different. they may want to talk but just dont because they are just soaking it all in. im sure you are doing enough activities to promote the child. just them watching you talk to anyone helps. the therapist said that we should try baby signing to help him communicate better with us and help him understand the words and why you use them. we have been working on "please" and "thank you". it has to be done repeatedly to get them to understand. its been about a month of constant signing and now he knows the sign "please" and he attempts to say the word. he does it everytime hes suppose to say please. maybe you should get and baby signing book or look it up on the internet. it really helps bridge the gap between communication.

Shelley - posted on 04/20/2010

My son is also 16 months old. He has been walking since he was 10 months old.. I think it's because I started to put him in the walker on and off from the age of 4 months to 6 months then it became constantly. He doesn't talk yet, but he knows how to say a few words. He knows pretty much everything that we are saying, He just won't say em when we ask him to, only when he wants to. It takes time. I know some babies don't talk til they're 2. I guess we have to be patient and wait til they are ready to talk. I hope this helps that you're not the only one.

Ruth - posted on 04/20/2010

A friend of mine had the same issue, her daughter started walking somewhere between 16-18 months. Her doctor had told her not to worry, only worry if they aren't walking by 2. With the speech ask your doctor a neighbor across the street from me had to have her son in speech therapy around 2-2.5 he'll turn 3 this october and now talks well for his age.

Alice - posted on 04/19/2010

My son was born Nov. 9 2008 and isn't even making an effort to talk. He uses his voice plenty, but not to string words or even sounds that immitate words together. Maybe I'm just an over cautious mom, but at his 18 month visit, in 2 weeks I plan to ask the pediatrician for an evaluation by a speech therapist. Early intervention is key when there is a problem, and when there's not, at least you know. He is walking, by the way, but not running yet. 18 months is kind of the key age where if they're not walking yet there might be a problem, but if your doc has evaluated, then you should be fine.... unless your mommy instincts tell you otherwise.

Courtney - posted on 04/19/2010

LOL this is too funny...these Scorpio babies are giving us a run for our money. My son Elijah was born on Nov. 6, 2008 and is the most stubborn person I know. Yes he does everything physical he should be and more but he will not talk. If you catch him off guard he can say over 8 words but never more than once a day. He is the most determined, stubborn person I know and it makes me feel better to see all these moms saying the same thing. THANK YOU!!

Nicole - posted on 04/19/2010

Hello all! Torey, Just as everyone else has said, there is something about these november 2008 babies!! My son was born on Nov. 30,2008. He started walking in December of 2009, and I think its only because I had his little sister on Dec. 23rd! However he still doesnt talk. He is very stubborn but very sweet at the same time. He does everything that a 16 month old does but talk! But just be patient, I know how frustrating it can be....I have 4!

Dayna - posted on 04/19/2010

My son born 23 Nov started walking at 9 months and says quite a few words but my oldest son didnt walk until 14 months and was alot slower with his talking. In saying that he is alot more sensitive and shy than the his yonger brother. I agree with all the other mums when they say it will happen when it happens. If you are worried there is something seriously wrong then get a check up done, otherwise just remember to enjoy what they are doing now. I truely believe all our hard work of teaching them does sink in and get stored away in their many filing cabnets. Kids are just so different and just because some can walk and talk earlier does not make them any more intelligent. Some of the brightest kids i know were slow developers.... I think they are just sitting back and processing a bit more. Oh to be able to understand what they are thinking without asking!!
Good luck and be positive. Sounds like you are doing a wonderful job.

Chelsea - posted on 04/19/2010

They understand more than they talk. Don't worry too much. My daughter doesn't talk much either. Think about how much practice goes into mastering vocal chords. Just keep talking and playing to her and you'll be begging her to stop running around/getting into mischief and to stop talking your ear off. Ha ha ha! Enjoy the stages she's in now, you'll never get them back.

Emi - posted on 04/19/2010

hi there. I dont think they say phrases until late. My second didnt walk by himself until 17 months but he has no problem. He does walking now. Also, he didnt say much until now that is 3 years, but now he is fluent and 2 languages.From my experience, let her grow in her own pace...she will walk on her own soon or later. If she says mom and daddy she will say more , just keep on talking, singing, and reading. good luck

Laura Brody - posted on 04/19/2010

My son, didn't walk until 16 months. Our pediatrician referred us to Early Intervention but by the time they came to evaluate him, he was already walking. That said, Early Intervention, at least in Massachusetts, does some amazing things and if you are concerned, your pediatrician can refer you. It doesn't cost anything to have them come do an evaluation and at the very least it may put your mind at ease.

I didn't walk until I was 21 months old and am a perfectly fine, well adjusted, well educated adult. When people say that children do things in their own time, it may not be what you are hoping to hear, but it is a valid statement.

As for talking, my son has a handful of words, most of which are only understandable in context. Many, many children don't have much vocabulary until they are closer to two and boys tend to be even later than that!

Keep talking to her and reading to her. Her vocabulary will develop. We also found that baby sign language helped tremendously. It allowed him to express a few simple needs like "milk" and "more" which decreased his frustration. Then, when he realized he could communicate with us, his language picked up as well.

Hope that helps.

Gabriella - posted on 04/19/2010

every baby is very diffrent dont worry or be fustrated it will happen. my oldest did the same thing , my middle child was pretty advanced by 18 months and my youngest is like big sister she 16 months and really dont say much but mama and dadda , applejuice ... and my oldest is at the top of her class and is awesome .please dont rush it only gets you fustrated

Jean - posted on 04/18/2010

My kiddo was born Nov 1 2008 and yes he is walking talking tho not so much but I am not worried about it, he is my third child and trust me take it easy they all develop on their own time. My lil guy says Mommy, Daddy, eas (Please), didi (dirty), Dawi (doggie) but phrases nope. look speaking from experience kids talk when they are ready, the best thing to do is to encourage language around your little one. talk to them, read to them tell them what you are doing, why, where you are going what you see when outsid eor walking around fill their ears with language. It will come with time. Additionally at 17 months they are very capable of understanding what you are saying even tho they don't talk. My lil guy will get a sippy cup out of his drawer if I ask him. It may take a couple of times but he does it, I have also taught him sign language which give you both a way to communicate until they do talk trust me it works he is my 2nd one I've done this with. WALKING Sounds like your little one has got you trained, DOes your child actually walk when they want something? If so then it is a question of not always picking them up and carrying them. hold their hand and make them walk, when they slump and plop on the ground just calmly say ok Mommy is going bye bye and WALK OUT OF SIGHT and WAIT!!!! do not rescue them when they cry cause they are trying to get their way. If they really want you they will get up and walk to where you are. Out in public do the same thing but walk real slow, do not turn aorund and stay in sight but moving away from them, If you give in then you'll be carrying them for a long time.

Anne - posted on 04/18/2010

Hi Torrey.
No cause for alarm.There are kids who walk on their own when 2 plus years.About talking that still depends on individuals ,Stop comparing your own with others because we are all unique.If there is no other hidden issues just wait and not long before you see changes.All the best.

Jolene - posted on 04/18/2010

My son is a Nov 08 baby and only says a few words but only when he feels like it. He prefers to grunt and point to what he wants. I'm just keeping up saying the words for items when he points to them. The more I push him into something the more he digs in his heels. Kids have their own timetable.

Genevieve - posted on 04/18/2010

My son only started walking at 15 months. It is normal for them to take up to 22 months I was told recently. As for talking, maybe get their ears checked. Sometimes hearing difficulties can effect talking eg auditory processing. But some kids just take longer, in the end they all seem to be quite similar by 4. Maybe get a referral. Talk to other friends as well. i wouldn't worry about the walking until 2.

Jen - posted on 04/17/2010

My son will be 17 mos. on the 20th of this month and he is not walking on his own yet. His Ped. says it's more of a confidence thing and not to worry. He can cruise just fine and can stand by himself and has taken a total of 3 steps in the last month or so. He can say at least 10 clear words though. It may be more situational than developmental. We've been having work done on our house so he can only play in a 5x5 area in his room but has recently had the run of the rest of the house and I usually pick him up and cart him around when we need to go somewhere so I think it's more because he just hasn't had enough time to practice. All children are different and I think the window for 'normal' time of walking by themselves is 9-18 mos. Just be encouraging, give your child plenty of opportunities to practice. Picture and word books are really good too. Point at things and say what they are, one worded, one syllable type of stuff. Hope this helps.

Dewana - posted on 04/17/2010

My son was born Nov. 28, 2009. He started walking at 10 months, but talking is another thing. The only words that we will say is ball, stop and daddy. I rarely hear him say momma. He understands what we are saying to him, but we can't seem to get him to say any other words. I guess once he's ready he'll have plenty to say.

Heather - posted on 04/17/2010

My daughter was also born in Nov 08 and is in the same boat. She is afraid to let go and walk on her own and she has only a few words in her vocabulary. I work with her everyday and can see that she is smart, so I am not worried. Every baby does things on their own time table, not ours and not statistically. Don't worry.

Dana - posted on 04/17/2010

Mine walks, runs, climbs all on his own and pretty much demands it, but talking.....thats another story. He says very few words, cant be prompted to say anything, he knows everything you tell him though. His words just aren't there yet. He has been trying more lately and we have implementated signing and that seems to help.

Mary - posted on 04/17/2010

My Nov baby walks only when someone holds her hand but she really has alot to say. No need to worry though for each kid has his own timing. My cousins Nov baby runs around and has all teeth n is potty trained but cant even call mama or papa.

Jaclyn - posted on 04/16/2010

lol i ok umm..well my boy says dada,mama and get it..and do do (which we call his willy lol) the rest is sort of just uh-oh and ooonooo but the rest is just babble. Reading books is always good sometimes not reading it put even pointing out pictures on the pages and saying what it is and stuff?? maybe.

Tracy - posted on 04/16/2010

I have a girl Nov 1st 08 and she just started walking on her own, before she would always have to hold onto something for 'fear' she couldn't do it. It's hard to see people with kids younger than mine who are walking and talking but I always remind myself that all kids develop differently. My daughter refuses to say words when we ask, but she does understand 'baba' for bottle and she will say dada when she sees daddy but she will only say mama when she is hurt or mad, other than that she says cracker 'coker' and cookie 'cookee' and thank you 'da doo' She is very stubborn and if we ask her to repeat something she will just walk away and laugh at us. I know that when she is ready she will do what she say what she wants to.

Danielle - posted on 04/16/2010

oh no not quiet just no real words lol i wish we had a bit of quietness lol