Tea Partyers shout N-word...

Sara - posted on 03/22/2010 ( 31 moms have responded )

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This is why this "movement" will never be credible to so many people...it's just a platform for hate and fear-mongering, and the folks that participate in these protests are so horrifically misinformed...


(WASHINGTON) — House Democrats heard it all Saturday — words of inspiration from President Barack Obama and raucous chants of protests from demonstrators. And at times it was flat-out ugly, including some racial epithets aimed at black members of Congress.
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Most of the day's important work leading up to Sunday's historic vote on health care was being done behind closed doors. Democratic leaders cajoled, bargained and did what they needed to nail down the votes they will need to finally push Obama's health care overhaul bill through the House.

But much else about the day was noisy, emotional and right out in the open. After more than a year debating the capstone of Obama's domestic agenda and just hours to go before the showdown vote, there was little holding back.

The tone was set outside the Capitol. Clogging the sidewalks and streets of Capitol Hill were at least hundreds — no official estimate was yet available — of loud, furious protesters, many of them tea party opponents of the health care overhaul.

Rallies outside the Capitol are typically orderly, with speeches and well-behaved crowds. Saturday's was different, with anger-fueled demonstrators surrounding members of Congress who walked by, yelling at them. "Kill the bill," the largely middle-aged crowd shouted, surging toward lawmakers who crossed the street between their office buildings and the Capitol.

The motorcade that carried Obama to Capitol Hill to whip up support for the bill drove past crowds waving signs that read "Stop the spending" and "Get your hands out of my pocketbook and health care." Many booed and thrust their thumbs down as Obama rode by. As police held protesters back to clear areas for lawmakers outside the Capitol Obama's speech, some jeered and chanted at the officers, "You work for us."

Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., told a reporter that as he left the Cannon House Office Building with Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., a leader of the civil rights era, some among the crowd chanted "the N-word, the N-word, 15 times." Both Carson and Lewis are black. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a large former police officer who said he wasn't frightened but worried about the 70-year-old Lewis, who is twice his age. "He said it reminded him of another time."

Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for Democratic Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., said a protester spit on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is black. Clyburn, who led fellow black students in integrating South Carolina's public facilities a half century ago, called the behavior "absolutely shocking." "I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus," Clyburn told reporters.

Inside House office buildings, protesters made their views known by visiting lawmakers' offices and chanting at legislators walking by. Among the demonstrators was Delane Stewart, 65, of Cookeville, Tenn., who had come with her husband, Jesse. "You know what's coming next if this happens?" she said, referring to the health bill's passage. "They're going to come after gun control." Retired businessman Randy Simpson, 67, of Seneca, S.C., also said the health bill was just a first step. "My concerns are about the health care bill, and the direction it takes us is toward communism, quite frankly," he said.

At a daylong meeting of the House Rules Committee, members of both parties squeezed into a tiny hearing room traded accusations in a session that was often a shouting match. "You all in the minority know what the American people think," Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., said loudly and mockingly at Republicans repeatedly saying the public overwhelmingly opposes health care. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, said a tricky voting procedure Democrats had been contemplating "corrupts and prostitutes the system" and would "unleash a cultural war in this country."

Obama's Capitol Hill visit was the day's emotional peak for House Democrats as he sought to energize them to finally approve the legislation. He conceded that it could be tough for some to vote for the bill, but predicted it would end up being politically smart because once it becomes law people will realize they like its provisions like curbs on insurance companies. "It is in your hands," the president said in what Clyburn later called the best speech he'd ever heard Obama make. "It is time to pass health care reform for America, and I am confident that you are going to do it tomorrow."



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Elizabeth - posted on 03/27/2010

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Sorry ladies, I had to address Dodie's health reform mis information even though I know it isn't directly related to the title of this thread.
Dodie,
In time, the health care reforms should be making health insurance more affordable for everyone. Unfortunately, I think you've been misinformed by the Tea Party movement vs being accurately informed. In time, there will be tax incentives and credits for small business owners to help pay for insurance for the workers. In addition, the exchanges will assist those small businesses to help their workers get health insurance by lowering the costs by pooling those small businesses together. It really is sad to see so many people so misinformed about this health care reform. This reform, will in turn, over time lower the deficit as right now all health care costs are doing in exploding and this reform will be the start at getting this under control. I'm sorry you feel destitute and feel like things will only get worse, but you are wrong. This president is working for you too. I wish more of you could see that.

Krista - posted on 03/25/2010

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Margo, you may want to take issue with tea party members then, as they're the ones who opened THAT particular door:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3313...

Besides, I think it is rather hilarious that you actually capitalize Tea Party, as though they are a legitimate political party. They're not.

Oh and regarding this:

I have a feeling that IF this actually occured, the protestors were actually rogues and there just to cause trouble.


Well, besides the spitting and the racial epithets, we also have this:

Rep. Tom Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother’s address was posted online and he later had his gas lines cut, prompting an FBI investigation. Local police are keeping an eye on Perriello's brother's home.

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) has gotten threatening faxes, phone calls and death threats. House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) received a messaged saying that snipers were being deployed to kill those members who voted yes for health care.

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) said he has gotten threats, as has Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.).

Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio), whose family was put in a newspaper advertisement last week, had his address posted on the Internet, urging a protest. He has received threats.

Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.) Sunday night had a coffin placed on his lawn during a prayer vigil.

You know, if it's just one incident, maybe you could say that it was just a bad apple who was there to cause trouble. But this is a pattern, Margo. Members of the tea party movement have been extremely vocal and vitriolic in their protests, and Tom Perriello's brother's address was posted BY a tea party leader, with instructions for people to "drop by".

You may think we're paranoid, but I think you are in SERIOUS denial.

Demetria - posted on 03/28/2010

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I, like many who have posted, have serious issues with the tea party movement. I encourage every concerned mother on here to join the anti-tea party movement or the coffee party. We need to show the media and politicians that the tea party does not represent a majority but rather a minority. I fear for the possible future of this country if violent tea party members get there way.



It is never ok to threaten someone and their family. If you disagree with a politician take it out in the appropriate place, on the ballot.



Also, to Dodie, I take heart with your issue. I know many small business owner's are struggling and I agree with Elizabeth that there are provisions in the bill to give you tax credits for doing the right thing, giving your employees health care. I advise you and everyone who has an issue to read the bill, or find an unbiased summary. But, just to help your argument, should you choose to argue against the bill, don't mention that you feel your employees don't deserve health care for their behaviors. Judge not yet ye be judged.



Also, I agree, no one should use the 'N' word. It is an ugly disgusting word. However I feel it has less to do with one's skin color and more with one's intelligence. And those who use it, prove my point

JL - posted on 03/26/2010

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The Tea Party members are the ones who decided to add the moniker teabaggers in reference to themselves. I don't know if they were clueless and not aware of what teabagging meant or if they did and just didn't care, but THEY CHOSE that moniker NOT ME. They gave themselves that name NOT ME! The Tea Party is not a political party it is a movement and a sad excuse for a movement but nonetheless that is what they are defined as.



As far as questioning me on a personal level in regards to conducting myself as a lady for using "derogatory terms," like I said they chose that moniker and identification ploy not me. My statements were made as identification of what group I was referring to they were not made as statements made in reference to anyones testicles.

Elizabeth - posted on 03/27/2010

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Margo,
Can you truly deny the rhetoric that is coming from the far right including Limbaugh, Beck, Palin and the Tea Party movement (I'll refrain from calling them teabaggers for just this moment)? Granted, yes, there probably are civil, well-intentioned folks that attend those meetings, but to continually deny that this rhetoric isn't real, or somehow doesn't exist only continues along the delusional lines that this party's representatives continue to push.
Margo, I see you doing it too, by scapegoating Joy and others away from the real issues -the hate speech and threats-by insinuating that Joy isn't a "lady" for using the teabagger moniker.
I think the right wing needs to "get real" about what is really going on and own up to it, stop it, and continually encourage their constituants to knock it off, grow up and learn how to have a real discussion.

Thanks!

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JL - posted on 04/03/2010

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Want to join a diverse group that is about producing change through intellectual discussions not irrational ignorance then try the Coffee Party not the Tea Party

Krista - posted on 04/03/2010

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That's the thing that cracks me up, Montiqua. You hear of people complaining that the black community is allowed to use that word, but whites aren't. Well...so what? I mean, why is it this big burden or inconvenience that they can't use that word? Why would they WANT to? It's like when people get pissy that the gay community can say "fag", but that straights can't. Oh well. I can happily live the rest of my life without saying that word. It's not this huge horrible thing that is being imposed upon me, really.

Montiqua - posted on 04/03/2010

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@Dodie, well I guess we'll just have to disagree, which is completely ok. You used a lot of examples of what words use to mean, but the Nigger has always been meant to degrade people of African American descent. As I said before, the black community changed the meaning of the word to take the psychological power away from those who used it against us.

Krista - posted on 03/31/2010

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I obtain my news from many sources, both U.S.-based and international, thanks Dodie.

The tea party may officially be made up of non-violent people, but there has been plenty of violent rhetoric and threats coming out of tea party rallies. And no, it's not liberal agent provocateurs trying to paint the poor, sweet innocent tea-partiers as lunatics. Like it or not, you've got plenty of whackadoodles in your midst, and they're being egged on by people like Sarah "Don't Retreat - RELOAD" Palin, Glenn "Obama hates white people" Beck, and Rush "Too many offensive quotes to choose just one" Limbaugh.

Are there nutbars on the left? Of course. But they're not threatening violence. And they're not being egged on by left-wing leadership or media figures.

I'll reiterate what I said to Margo:

Well, besides the spitting and the racial epithets, we also have this:

Rep. Tom Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother’s address was posted online and he later had his gas lines cut, prompting an FBI investigation. Local police are keeping an eye on Perriello's brother's home.

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) has gotten threatening faxes, phone calls and death threats. House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) received a messaged saying that snipers were being deployed to kill those members who voted yes for health care.

Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) said he has gotten threats, as has Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.).

Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio), whose family was put in a newspaper advertisement last week, had his address posted on the Internet, urging a protest. He has received threats.

Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.) Sunday night had a coffin placed on his lawn during a prayer vigil.

You know, if it's just one incident, maybe you could say that it was just a bad apple who was there to cause trouble. But this is a pattern, Margo. Members of the tea party movement have been extremely vocal and vitriolic in their protests, and Tom Perriello's brother's address was posted BY a tea party leader, with instructions for people to "drop by".


So if the tea party is so damn peaceful, why are they giving out Democratic politician's HOME addresses to a bunch of people who are pissed off? You can protest all you want about the tea party being a sober, sensible, bunch of patriots, but a pattern is a pattern...and this one is very telling.

Dodie - posted on 03/31/2010

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And here ya go. I just stumbled across this article. If you choose not to read the whole thing, I have included one paragraph just for you!

"The group is decidedly conservative and libertarian, but otherwise diverse, divided over most everything except the need for limited government, less spending and an end to Obama's policies. Those in the coalition have allegiance to no political party, with independent voters and even moderate Democrats among their ranks."

For the whole article, go to:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=...

Dodie - posted on 03/31/2010

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Wow, Krista. You really need to broaden your horizons and watch more than one channel to get your news. Here is the mission page on the Tea Party. It is made up of non-violent people. http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhsxmzm7_...

By the way, did you hear than Senator Max Baucus, D-Neb., chairman of the influential Finance Committee said healthcare takeover is an "income shift" and corrects the "mal-distribution of income in America." Tell me how that is fair. A person who chooses to work 80 hours a week to get ahead should not have to share their income with someone who chooses to work 40 hours a week. It's just not right.

Krista - posted on 03/31/2010

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The teaparty is made up of Republicans, Democrats and Independents who want our government to follow the constitution as it was written.


Are we even thinking of the same organization? See I thought that the tea party was made up of people who are anti-tax, but who have been joined by people who are anti-Obama, to create a complete mishmash of a movement whose protests are marked by violent rhetoric, a slavish worship of Sarah Palin, and placards bitching about everything from taxes to gun ownership rights to pro-life issues, to the charming observation that Obama is funneling your tax dollars to Hamas.

Dodie - posted on 03/30/2010

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Montiqua, I respectfully disagree with you. Many words in our language start to have different meanings over a course of years. Think of the word "gay". In my grandad's day it meant happy. Not the first thing that comes to mind today now is it? And the word "cool" or "rad" and on and on. Slang words are different in England. The word "pissed" means "drunk", the word "fag" means cigarette.
I believe that people of all colors have misused the "N" word and, therefore, changed its definition over the last several decades and, therefore, nobody of any color should use the word today. I feel that people of all colors should do a better job of keeping their language respectful to those around them.

Montiqua - posted on 03/30/2010

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@Dodie, I am not going to get into the debate about health care, but I do want to address the young ladies use of the "N" word. I'm not quite sure why you are offended by the use of the word. The black community has used the word for decades now. We have taken an ugly derogatory word that was placed on us by whites and has flipped the word around for our own meaning and use. Is this right or wrong... I'm not here to make that determination. I have heard white people call themselves crackers also. All I know is if you are uncomfortable with the word then that is a personal problem you have to deal with yourself. Whether it is fair or not the black community is allowed to use the word and others, especially white people, are not.

Dodie - posted on 03/30/2010

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First of all, whatever provisions that are in the bill to give tax credits will not be enough. Second of all, the Showdown in Searchlight did nothing to Searchlight but boost the economy of a one horse town. However, Reid supporters were threatening. They threw eggs at the Teaparty Express bus as it drove by and threatened the reporter.

The teaparty is made up of Republicans, Democrats and Independents who want our government to follow the constitution as it was written. Our government is supposed to be here to protect us, not take care of us.

And, Demetria, I did not mean to imply that my employees do not deserve health care. What I was saying is that many of them smoke and do not take care of themselves, therefore, their insurance will not be cheap.

Please watch this clip:

Dodie - posted on 03/27/2010

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As a small business owner, I can assure you that with the healthcare bill, I will eventually have to shut my doors, therefore, unemploying about 50 workers. I am barely making ends meet now with our economy the way it is. How I will be able to afford to pay insurance for my employees (many who smoke and don't take very good care of themselves) and pay increased taxes as well is beyond me. I fully support the Tea Party.
And, by the way, the other day as I stood in line at DMV for half an hour, two young black "ladies" were in front of me and said the "n" word at least 20 times a piece in their conversation. But being white, I'm not supposed to take offense to that. Disgusting.

Temple - posted on 03/26/2010

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This country is my home and it sometimes pisses me off that people can still act so dumb and ignorant to the issues.I am proud of what OBAMA has done for us. I have been waiting for this for years. My mother needs it, my husband needs it my children need it. We are a multi-racial family and we all know too much about racism in this country and it needs to stop. Fox news has to be stopped. They are insighting the hate speech and if people would just go to the whitehouse.gov website and take time to read the bill they will see it is going to help us not hurt us they would shut the heck up. God is love lets pass it on.

Margo - posted on 03/25/2010

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I dont know if you realize this or not, but the word "teabaggers" refers to someone who puts their testicles on another person's face. I find it repulsive and vulgar. A slur if you will. You use that over and over again. I would think a lady would refrain from using derogatory terms and call people what they are, Democrat, Republican, Tea Party, Independent or perhaps lets try this one on for size, how about human with an opinion diffferent from my own. Instead of using rhetoric, propoganda and derogatory comments.

JL - posted on 03/25/2010

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The majority of the comments on here were generalized and not stated to be directed particularly at you Margo and no one said....AH HA you must be a Republican Tea bagger. I think a few people infered you may be because your comment alluded to that point, but I know my comments were in general about my opinion of what I have seen and heard from Teabaggers.



Where I live there is a strong teabagger party..I live in the deep SOuth and I have seen the demonstrations and rallies firsthand. I have not been to meetings but the rallies were enough to make me sick. I did hear people say we needed to hang the Democrats and our president and I did see nooses in peoples hands...that did scare the shit out me as well as sicken me and fail to see why having a gutterial reaction to the brandishing of nooses and the angry screams calling for the need to hang reps is a paranoid reaction.



Yes, people assumed your were a Republican and we know what assuming does makes out an ass out of you and me. Ok maybe I was an ass for assumng, but paranoid...nope...realistically dissillusioned and disgusted, yes.

Margo - posted on 03/25/2010

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Wow, I am sorry I responded, you guys are way beyond paranoid. I never claimed to be affiliated with the Tea Party. I said I attended meetings. As a journalist I am required to attend all sorts of meetings. You also assume I am Republican. You make a lot of ASSumptions.

JL - posted on 03/25/2010

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Republicans want to question and claim that the accusations of hate speech, dangerous rhetoric and threats are lies.They demand evidence.They ask where is the evidence but when the evidence the...voice mails and other documentation are released proving that hate speech and dangerous threats are being used they want to turn around and then claim that they are only being released as part of the Democratic political agenda.



What they are doing is denying and ignoring the fact that it is uncalled for... over the line to encourage constinuents to attack and threaten people and their families. They are denying and ignoring the fact that the FBI is investigating and taking this all very seriously. They are denying and ignoring the fact that it is a federal offense to threaten a rep and the president. They are denying and ignoring the fact that as Republican representatives they have a higher sense of duty beyond winning and they need to watch their words wisely and stop adding fuel to the fire. Denial does not take away culpability it just makes you look like a useless ass.



It is bad enough we have Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh cheering on the hate and violence.Bricks being thrown through windows...yeah that speaks highly..please I teach my children to compose themselves better than that in public.

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Want to hear something ridiculous??? Republican strategists are now saying that the Democrats who were threatened in the last 24-36 hours, are releasing the telephone threats and leaking information to the media, as a political tactic! They are being accused of trying to garner support and sympathy from the American people. Yeah! Someone cuts the gas line at my brother's house and I alert the media, so that people could feel sorry for me and I could keep my seat in November. Just because I have a target on my back and my family is in danger and I want protect them and possible alert others to the seriousness of the situation is not a good enough reason to turn to the media.

You know, we teach our kids that words have consequences. Well the Republican leadership and the leaders of the tea party movement, refuse to take any accountability for what is happening. They want to spew out "death panels", and "government takeovers" and then sit back and pretend that they are not responsible for the actions of a crazy few. And these forced, politically correct denouncements, are a joke!

Jennifer - posted on 03/25/2010

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I find it fascinating that the immediate assumption on the part of a tea party member is that all the congressmen and witnesses were all lying.

You do realize, do you not, that this (http://houstontps.org/audio/4995.jpg) is Dale Robertson, founder of teaparty.org.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
This is a Washington Post article (I'll understand if you disbelieve it on the grounds that it did not come from Faux News) about all the bricks through the windows and other threats of violence.

I truly think it's to do with the way the media has been evolving. People like to listen to radio programs and watch television shows where they already agree with the points of view expressed. Myself included. But I think what's happened over time is that beginning with talk radio and now Faux News's 24-hour TV broadcast, the rhetoric has become increasingly inflammatory and hateful. I think it's really all to do with ratings, really. The more outrageous the statements, the more attention a program gets, and the more viewers or listeners. Unfortunately, the side effect is that people become convinced that it's okay to voice radical hateful opinions, since they see it and hear it on public airwaves (or cable, or what have you) every day. And then when Faux News, who they've come to exclusively trust because they always agree with the opinions expressed thereon, promotes the "Tea Party" campaign, with its vituperative spiteful sign waving and inflammatory posters . . . well, it underscores how "okay" it is to scream hate in public. It's very sad.

Dana - posted on 03/25/2010

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Don't forget the cross hairs on certain states too Jenn. Disgusting behavior...

JL - posted on 03/25/2010

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Ok, lets take the "alleged" use of racial and homosexual slurs out the mix and talk about the dangerous verbage and actions being taken by tea party activitists and those who associate themselves with the movement. What about the hit lists being posted on tea party sites with addresses included encouraging teabaggers to go show up at representatives and their family members personal homes to express "thank" them for voting of the healthcare bill. It is one thing to show up in front of the White House, the capital and at representatives offices but to show up at private homes and endanger their families......WRONG.



What about the verbal threats of violence. It is one thing to call and write your rep about your anger toward the passage of healthcare but it is another to use the words sniper, to suggest they need to be taken out and state they need to by hung. It has gone overboard and past the simple stand against legislation you don't like. Hateful and violent verbage IS being used and this is not how we Americans should be conducting ourselves. Show a little respect and act like a concerned citizens.Yell and scream no I don't want this.Debate it,march and take a stand but don't conduct yourselves as if you are people on the verge of becoming nothing more than domestic terrorists. If anything destroys this nation it will be us because of divisional hate.



Tea party leaders and birthers have more than once stated publicly that their followers should arm themselves and rise up...I don't know about you all but when someone suggest using weapons instead of words,pens, and posters to prevent change that does not suggest the idea of civil protests but the idea of violence.

Vicki - posted on 03/25/2010

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Margo, I as a black woman, I feel compelled to answer your defense of the Tea Party movement. I like to watch these sort of movements to keep an eye on the enemy to to speak and thus far, it is everything my older family members who took part in the civil rights movement knew it to be: a cover for disenfranchised white people to pick convenient targets and engage in domestic terrorism. Look at the landscape of the Tea Party: white people, nary (if any) a colored folk among the group. You don't think others are concerned about the ever increasing scope of gov't? Where were you all when the patriot act was being drafted to suspend habeas corpus? Where were you all when our previous president decided to bring the country into an unconstitutional war? There's provisions in the US Constitution regarding declaring war and executive war power privileges - you know...that pesky little supreme law of the land thing?

I find you delusional at best if you don't think that the Tea Party is being taken over a far more radical and dangerous element bent on engaging in domestic terrorism. To date, I have not heard anyone in the Tea Party denounce the threats, violence, assaults on members of congress, etc that have been associated and perpetrated by this group. You cannot conveniently claim to be associated with this party, defend it against misinformation then claim ignorance when your own does something unsavory. Because of this and past behaviors of people like you (angry white people who feel entitled to righteousness), I expect to be confronted with a racist, a bigot and possibly a mass murderer (see Timothy McVeigh & Joseph Stacks) who watch Fox News and listen to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

Margo - posted on 03/24/2010

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I had to join this community to answer your accusations. These claims are so false. I have never heard of Tea Partiers calling out racial epithets, and fear that this is actually propaganda to discredit their party. Have you actually seen this for yourself or attended one of their meettngs? I have, and nothing of this sort ever came up. I would almost suggest you are using the same tactics to discredit tea partiers. Yes protestors of all sorts like to stir up havoc. I have a feeling that IF this actually occured, the protestors were actually rogues and there just to cause trouble. Sort of like the 16 year old boy at the Wal-Mart who said all black people should leave. Wal-Mart was accused of being racist when in fact it was an outside influence. Perhaps we should get ALL the facts before we spew nonsense.

Sara - posted on 03/22/2010

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The Tea Party movement is much more about FEAR than it is about taxes.



"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering" --- Yoda

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