Still waking with gas pains at night?

Nic - posted on 11/04/2009 ( 19 moms have responded )

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I was wondering if anyone else's baby is still collicky or waking at night with gas pains or intenstinal discomfort? My little girl is almost 13 months old and she has had a history of reflux and intenstine discomfort since birth. The reflux has disappeared, but she still wakes in the night in discomfort. Sometimes the discomfort isn't very bad I can get her back to sleep within 15 mins, and other times she cries in pain, bringing her legs up, sometimes passing wind, and may not settled for up to 5 hours (no joke, a few times she has been awake for 5 hours during the night and can't settle even if I breast feed her, try lying down with her, walk her around on my shoulder etc). We are currently seeing a gastro-specialist doctor who reccommended a few reflux drugs that didnt work and now wants me to give up breast-feeding. I was just wondering if anyone else has had to deal with similar tummy issues?

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Nic - posted on 11/10/2009

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Yeah, if I could pin-point what foods are causing Liana's problems, I would also rather control my food and her food intakes than give up breast feeding. I was hoping to and looking forward to continuing breast feeding until she was at least 2 yrs old.



Michelle, how often did you add foods back into your diets? One food per week? I haven't tried removing rice yet, but she could be allergic to several foods so I think I"ll have to remove everything again and start over with reintroducing foods one by one. That will take months.... and when she is crying and passing gas like she was last night, I feel so bad for her and wonder if I should just give up breast feeding. Its hard to know what to do. I'll talk to the specialist again next week.

Maria - posted on 11/16/2009

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Quoting Michelle:



Quoting Maria:

oh my god i thought i was the only one. ( or should i say, my almost 13 month old son James) since birth he has never been able to pass gas normally, it always cause discomfort and many tears. up to a few months ago, even going number 2 was a cause for pain.
he still wakes up at least once a night, and it will be gas 95% of the time, sometimes i can help him pass it quickly, sometimes it has taken up to 3 hours ( i am so sorry for your 5! i thought i had it bad!) I have spoken to his pediatrician several times, i have actually changed pediatrician's 2 times over this, as they all seem to dismiss my concerns as if it is something that is normal, and i know that it's NOT! his last appointment, the pediatrician said sometimes we just cant figure out what is the source and i will maybe just have to stimulate him rectally to help. (believe it or not that's the best out of the 3 pediatrician's advice so far!) he does eat yogurt and cheese, but besides that, im nervous to really start him on cow's milk as he seems to be bad enough as it is, and im wondering if its a lactose thing. i myself tried cutting dairy out of my diet, but it didnt seem to help (granted i think i only stopped for 3 days, maybe i didnt wait long enough??) right now im at the point i think i need to just tough it out, as i've tried eliminating and adding foods to his diet for months and nothing seems to help, and im not really into Rxs and drugs.

so i guess the point of my post is, i'm dealing with it too, i have no answers but let me know what works for you!!





you'd need to cut it out for a week or two to see a major difference....





cut it out of... my diet or his? and just milk itself or all milk products?

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Quoting Michelle:



Quoting Janel:

My son has had serious gas problems since pretty much always. He'll wake in the night several times also, and has to be comforted through it until the gas passes.
The one thing we've done that has helped more than anything else is to get him on lactose free dairy products now that he's eating/drinking regular people food.

I was fairly lucky in that my twins divided up their tummy troubles, so he has the gas and she has the reflux. I hate the idea of either or both having both problems.

At 13 months, giving up breastfeeding is not a crisis, so don't let it upset you if that's the suggestion.






considering breastmilk is the easiest thing on their stomach and the baby has stomach issues it would be wrong to stop nursing and cause the baby MORE problems





Considering that you don't know what the problem is, I don't know what the problem is, that neither you nor I have a degree in this (going on an assumption that you don't) or even KNOW the baby, I'm going to have to go with the idea that the specialist might have more of a clue than either of us. They might not. Some specialists are just dead wrong. It's absolutely ridiculous to believe that 100% of all babies thrive 100% on their mother's perfectly flowing, always uncontaminated milk. Almost always? Sure. The vast majority of babies have the best source of the best food available right at their mother's chest. The blind belief that nothing can ever go wrong with the equation totally ignores reality, though.



Most babies need breastmilk. Most babies will thrive with breastmilk. The ideal situation is to breastfeed exclusively for at least 6 months, start foods but continue breastfeeding until 2 to 3 years. This does not work for every situation.



Health problems, inability to produce milk (which really does happen), incompatibility with food allergies from baby that mother is unaware of, deformities of mouth/ tongue - all of these things happen. I refuse to let the boobmafia continue to make women who tried and failed for any of these reasons feel guilty for the choices they make in the best interest of their babies. Babies who were unable to thrive on their mother's breastmilk in the past either died or were wetnursed by someone else.



 



I do, in fact, have a personal, emotional stake at this. My son was hospitalized because I continued to try to exclusively breastfeed (with much lactation consultation, much help from different herbs and pharmacology) while he continued to lose weight. It, in fact, does upset me when I see other mother's insist that breastfeeding always works and that anyone who is advised by a doctor to supplement or substitute formula is being given bad advice always. Sure, I wish more people really gave an effort before giving up, but seeing as how these are their children we're talking about, I'm not going to go into their homes and raise their children for them, and we're almost all just trying to do the best we can I think I can float the idea that I don't need to judge other mothers for their choices.



There is no one size fits all solution for all babies and mothers.



Finally, in the end, try to remember we aren't talking about abusing a child here. We're talking about, maybe, following the advice of a specialist doctor who recommends that a 13 month old child that has breastfed for over a year might have less pain if she discontinues breastfeeding. The mother can continue to pump and if not breastfeeding doesn't help, she can go back to it. It's not a crisis. If it will help a baby not be in pain, it's worth trying. A second opinion might be worthwhile, but seeing as how she can pump for two weeks while running a trial on whether it helps, I don't see how it's damaging.

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Michelle - posted on 11/16/2009

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Quoting Maria:



Quoting Michelle:




Quoting Maria:

oh my god i thought i was the only one. ( or should i say, my almost 13 month old son James) since birth he has never been able to pass gas normally, it always cause discomfort and many tears. up to a few months ago, even going number 2 was a cause for pain.
he still wakes up at least once a night, and it will be gas 95% of the time, sometimes i can help him pass it quickly, sometimes it has taken up to 3 hours ( i am so sorry for your 5! i thought i had it bad!) I have spoken to his pediatrician several times, i have actually changed pediatrician's 2 times over this, as they all seem to dismiss my concerns as if it is something that is normal, and i know that it's NOT! his last appointment, the pediatrician said sometimes we just cant figure out what is the source and i will maybe just have to stimulate him rectally to help. (believe it or not that's the best out of the 3 pediatrician's advice so far!) he does eat yogurt and cheese, but besides that, im nervous to really start him on cow's milk as he seems to be bad enough as it is, and im wondering if its a lactose thing. i myself tried cutting dairy out of my diet, but it didnt seem to help (granted i think i only stopped for 3 days, maybe i didnt wait long enough??) right now im at the point i think i need to just tough it out, as i've tried eliminating and adding foods to his diet for months and nothing seems to help, and im not really into Rxs and drugs.

so i guess the point of my post is, i'm dealing with it too, i have no answers but let me know what works for you!!







you'd need to cut it out for a week or two to see a major difference....









cut it out of... my diet or his? and just milk itself or all milk products?





if he's nursing both of your diets if not just his... all milk products if he has an issue with milk the smallest amounts can cause issues... i know it sounds hard but once you get the hand of it i've found it's not that big of a deal

Michelle - posted on 11/16/2009

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Quoting Maria:

oh my god i thought i was the only one. ( or should i say, my almost 13 month old son James) since birth he has never been able to pass gas normally, it always cause discomfort and many tears. up to a few months ago, even going number 2 was a cause for pain.
he still wakes up at least once a night, and it will be gas 95% of the time, sometimes i can help him pass it quickly, sometimes it has taken up to 3 hours ( i am so sorry for your 5! i thought i had it bad!) I have spoken to his pediatrician several times, i have actually changed pediatrician's 2 times over this, as they all seem to dismiss my concerns as if it is something that is normal, and i know that it's NOT! his last appointment, the pediatrician said sometimes we just cant figure out what is the source and i will maybe just have to stimulate him rectally to help. (believe it or not that's the best out of the 3 pediatrician's advice so far!) he does eat yogurt and cheese, but besides that, im nervous to really start him on cow's milk as he seems to be bad enough as it is, and im wondering if its a lactose thing. i myself tried cutting dairy out of my diet, but it didnt seem to help (granted i think i only stopped for 3 days, maybe i didnt wait long enough??) right now im at the point i think i need to just tough it out, as i've tried eliminating and adding foods to his diet for months and nothing seems to help, and im not really into Rxs and drugs.

so i guess the point of my post is, i'm dealing with it too, i have no answers but let me know what works for you!!


you'd need to cut it out for a week or two to see a major difference....

Maria - posted on 11/16/2009

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oh my god i thought i was the only one. ( or should i say, my almost 13 month old son James) since birth he has never been able to pass gas normally, it always cause discomfort and many tears. up to a few months ago, even going number 2 was a cause for pain.
he still wakes up at least once a night, and it will be gas 95% of the time, sometimes i can help him pass it quickly, sometimes it has taken up to 3 hours ( i am so sorry for your 5! i thought i had it bad!) I have spoken to his pediatrician several times, i have actually changed pediatrician's 2 times over this, as they all seem to dismiss my concerns as if it is something that is normal, and i know that it's NOT! his last appointment, the pediatrician said sometimes we just cant figure out what is the source and i will maybe just have to stimulate him rectally to help. (believe it or not that's the best out of the 3 pediatrician's advice so far!) he does eat yogurt and cheese, but besides that, im nervous to really start him on cow's milk as he seems to be bad enough as it is, and im wondering if its a lactose thing. i myself tried cutting dairy out of my diet, but it didnt seem to help (granted i think i only stopped for 3 days, maybe i didnt wait long enough??) right now im at the point i think i need to just tough it out, as i've tried eliminating and adding foods to his diet for months and nothing seems to help, and im not really into Rxs and drugs.

so i guess the point of my post is, i'm dealing with it too, i have no answers but let me know what works for you!!

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I've been working with lactose free milk, and that's been helping my kids. About the only dairy product they eat that isn't lactose free that they eat is yogurt.

Michelle - posted on 11/12/2009

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I have taken rice out our diets so we'll see if that makes a difference. Thats great that your 6 year old outgrew his allergies! Im definitely interested in your list of 'ok foods' to start eating before introducing one new food every 4 days - thanks Michelle! Was this a plan you got from a specialist, or something you tried yourself?



the ped recommended the diet she knows me well enough to know giving up nursing wasn't an option LOL... the list included turkey and lamb squash potatoes and pears... yeah i know tons of food LOL At the end of two weeks, or sooner if the colic subsides, gradually add other foods to your diet, one every four days, starting with those less commonly allergenic (such as sunflower seeds, carrots, beets, salmon, oats, grapes, avocado, peaches). Wait a while before you add wheat, beef, eggs, nuts, and corn. Avoid for the longest time dairy products, soy products, peanuts, shellfish, coffee, tea, colas and other beverages containing caffeine, chocolate, gas-producing vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, onions, green peppers), tomatoes, and citrus fruits. Vegetables and fruits are often tolerated in cooked form sooner than in raw form.

Nic - posted on 11/12/2009

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I have taken rice out our diets so we'll see if that makes a difference. Thats great that your 6 year old outgrew his allergies! Im definitely interested in your list of 'ok foods' to start eating before introducing one new food every 4 days - thanks Michelle! Was this a plan you got from a specialist, or something you tried yourself?

Michelle - posted on 11/10/2009

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Yeah, if I could pin-point what foods are causing Liana's problems, I would also rather control my food and her food intakes than give up breast feeding. I was hoping to and looking forward to continuing breast feeding until she was at least 2 yrs old.

Michelle, how often did you add foods back into your diets? One food per week? I haven't tried removing rice yet, but she could be allergic to several foods so I think I"ll have to remove everything again and start over with reintroducing foods one by one. That will take months.... and when she is crying and passing gas like she was last night, I feel so bad for her and wonder if I should just give up breast feeding. Its hard to know what to do. I'll talk to the specialist again next week.


we intro foods every 4 days..  but then you should be able to get a take on if it's bothering her... rice could be the issue so maybe trying pulling that out of your diet for a week and see what happens? rice baby cereal is supposed to be the easiest less allergic food... my 6 year old, Alex, broke out in hives when he had it as a baby... luckily he's outgrown that and has no food issues now...



if you are willing to do the work just pull everything out of your diet... there is a list of a couple foods you can have from the start if u'd like it i'll find it for you :)

Michelle - posted on 11/09/2009

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Thanks so much for your replies and suggestions, ladies. I gave up diary, eggs, soy, wheat, nuts, fish, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, lentils, split peas, beans, tomato, citrus (most of the main childhood allergens, plus anything that produces gas or was acidic) for about 4 months when she was younger in the hopes of helping her intestinal problems. It didn't seem to help so I have been eating everything for a few months now. But I think the gas pain may have gotten more intense as she never used to be up for 5 hours in the middle of the night in discomfort. Alternatively, the pain might be the same intensity, but because she is older, she is more aware and finds it more difficult to go back to sleep with it.

Thanks for the advice to stop feeding her diary and also stop eating it myself. I didnt feed my daughter diary until last month (we waited until she was almost 1 year old before introducing the main allergens) and only then, just a little bit of cottage cheese. I have stopped giving her diary again and these past few days I have stopped eating diary again, and also soy as I think these allergens can be linked in children. I think her issues are more than a dairy-protein intolerance though because when I gave up eating diary when she was younger, it didn’t cure her problems. It may be a lactose intolerance, in which case giving up breast feeding would help (since there is lactose in all milk made by mammals). Or it may be an allergen that I haven't removed from my diet or hers yet, such as rice.

You're right Michelle, I don't want to give up breast feeding unless there is a good reason for it. Its taken a lot of pain and frustration to get to the point of enjoying breastfeeding (Liana had a very painful and frustrating latch-on for 5 months that no lactation consultant could help with) and its something we both are loving right now. I not convinced my daughter has lactose intolerance since she doesn’t ever get diarrhea and the gas pains seem to vary from day to day and week to week (whereas her lactose intake doesn’t vary much). I don't understand how sometimes she has good days/nights? Im also not convinced the specialist knows what he is doing – I think it’s a bit odd that he hasn’t even asked me what solids I feed her – maybe Im feeding her beans and cabbage 5 times a day!!? Im not, of course, but you’d think it would be a routine question for a child with stomach issues? The specialist also wants me to substitute with soy milk and didn’t seem bothered by phyto-estrogens in soy – something that also rings alarm bells.

Of course, if stopping breast feeding was going to cure my daughter I would stop in a heart-beat. Im reluctant though because Im not convinced it’s a lactose-intolerance issue and giving up won’t be easy. My daughter and I are emotionally attached to breast feeding, and my daughter uses it to go sleep for her naps and at bedtime (but not if she wakes in the middle of the night, in which case, after her discomfort ends, she will go back to sleep on my shoulder while I rock her). I think giving up breast feeding right now will be pretty traumatic for her. Im also worried that if I give up breast feeding for two weeks and it doesn’t help, my milk production will have dwindled (I don’t find pumping as simulating to my breast, compared to suckling) so I wouldn’t be able to return to breast feeding.

Anyway, before I make the decision, Im going to meet with the specialist once more (Nov 20th) and ask him some more questions. Im going to push him to order her a blood allergy test, even though he doesn’t think its reliable enough for her age group, some of my friends have had success so I reckon it would be worth trying. (Michelle, my doctor said he has already tested for Celiac disease by looking for antibodies in her blood so you might ask your doctor about this). I also have started my daughter on lactobacillus to help her gut flora. Maybe she will be cured before my next appointment :-D !!!

Thanks again ladies xxo


thanks didn'tknow it could be tested by blood she has her 15 month appt in january so i'll talk to the doctor at that point i think at that point i'm planning on pushing for her to get allergy tested even though the test is not accurate at this age... i had my son allergy tested at 4 and the allergist told me to recheck him at 7 as tha'ts the point it's accurate...from my understanding the unrealiabilty is u'll get postives to things they aren't actually allergic too but th'ats better then nothing ..



with Lily we pretty much removed everything from both our diets then slowly adding things into both our diets and the same time..... in our case i'm not willing to give up nursing her even with her food issues when i can control it no matter how difficult that is...

Michelle - posted on 11/09/2009

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Quoting Nic:

Thanks so much for your replies and suggestions, ladies. I gave up diary, eggs, soy, wheat, nuts, fish, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, lentils, split peas, beans, tomato, citrus (most of the main childhood allergens, plus anything that produces gas or was acidic) for about 4 months when she was younger in the hopes of helping her intestinal problems. It didn't seem to help so I have been eating everything for a few months now. But I think the gas pain may have gotten more intense as she never used to be up for 5 hours in the middle of the night in discomfort. Alternatively, the pain might be the same intensity, but because she is older, she is more aware and finds it more difficult to go back to sleep with it.

Thanks for the advice to stop feeding her diary and also stop eating it myself. I didnt feed my daughter diary until last month (we waited until she was almost 1 year old before introducing the main allergens) and only then, just a little bit of cottage cheese. I have stopped giving her diary again and these past few days I have stopped eating diary again, and also soy as I think these allergens can be linked in children. I think her issues are more than a dairy-protein intolerance though because when I gave up eating diary when she was younger, it didn’t cure her problems. It may be a lactose intolerance, in which case giving up breast feeding would help (since there is lactose in all milk made by mammals). Or it may be an allergen that I haven't removed from my diet or hers yet, such as rice.

You're right Michelle, I don't want to give up breast feeding unless there is a good reason for it. Its taken a lot of pain and frustration to get to the point of enjoying breastfeeding (Liana had a very painful and frustrating latch-on for 5 months that no lactation consultant could help with) and its something we both are loving right now. I not convinced my daughter has lactose intolerance since she doesn’t ever get diarrhea and the gas pains seem to vary from day to day and week to week (whereas her lactose intake doesn’t vary much). I don't understand how sometimes she has good days/nights? Im also not convinced the specialist knows what he is doing – I think it’s a bit odd that he hasn’t even asked me what solids I feed her – maybe Im feeding her beans and cabbage 5 times a day!!? Im not, of course, but you’d think it would be a routine question for a child with stomach issues? The specialist also wants me to substitute with soy milk and didn’t seem bothered by phyto-estrogens in soy – something that also rings alarm bells.

Of course, if stopping breast feeding was going to cure my daughter I would stop in a heart-beat. Im reluctant though because Im not convinced it’s a lactose-intolerance issue and giving up won’t be easy. My daughter and I are emotionally attached to breast feeding, and my daughter uses it to go sleep for her naps and at bedtime (but not if she wakes in the middle of the night, in which case, after her discomfort ends, she will go back to sleep on my shoulder while I rock her). I think giving up breast feeding right now will be pretty traumatic for her. Im also worried that if I give up breast feeding for two weeks and it doesn’t help, my milk production will have dwindled (I don’t find pumping as simulating to my breast, compared to suckling) so I wouldn’t be able to return to breast feeding.

Anyway, before I make the decision, Im going to meet with the specialist once more (Nov 20th) and ask him some more questions. Im going to push him to order her a blood allergy test, even though he doesn’t think its reliable enough for her age group, some of my friends have had success so I reckon it would be worth trying. (Michelle, my doctor said he has already tested for Celiac disease by looking for antibodies in her blood so you might ask your doctor about this). I also have started my daughter on lactobacillus to help her gut flora. Maybe she will be cured before my next appointment :-D !!!

Thanks again ladies xxo


thanks didn'tknow it could be tested by blood she has her 15 month appt in january so i'll talk to the doctor at that point i think at that point i'm planning on pushing for her to get allergy tested even though the test is not accurate at this age... i had my son allergy tested at 4 and the allergist told me to recheck him at 7 as tha'ts the point it's accurate...from my understanding the unrealiabilty is u'll get postives to things they aren't actually allergic too but th'ats better then nothing ..



with Lily we pretty much removed everything from both our diets then slowly adding things into both our diets and the same time..... in our case i'm not willing to give up nursing her even with her food issues when i can control it no matter how difficult that is...

Nic - posted on 11/09/2009

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Thanks so much for your replies and suggestions, ladies. I gave up diary, eggs, soy, wheat, nuts, fish, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, lentils, split peas, beans, tomato, citrus (most of the main childhood allergens, plus anything that produces gas or was acidic) for about 4 months when she was younger in the hopes of helping her intestinal problems. It didn't seem to help so I have been eating everything for a few months now. But I think the gas pain may have gotten more intense as she never used to be up for 5 hours in the middle of the night in discomfort. Alternatively, the pain might be the same intensity, but because she is older, she is more aware and finds it more difficult to go back to sleep with it.

Thanks for the advice to stop feeding her diary and also stop eating it myself. I didnt feed my daughter diary until last month (we waited until she was almost 1 year old before introducing the main allergens) and only then, just a little bit of cottage cheese. I have stopped giving her diary again and these past few days I have stopped eating diary again, and also soy as I think these allergens can be linked in children. I think her issues are more than a dairy-protein intolerance though because when I gave up eating diary when she was younger, it didn’t cure her problems. It may be a lactose intolerance, in which case giving up breast feeding would help (since there is lactose in all milk made by mammals). Or it may be an allergen that I haven't removed from my diet or hers yet, such as rice.

You're right Michelle, I don't want to give up breast feeding unless there is a good reason for it. Its taken a lot of pain and frustration to get to the point of enjoying breastfeeding (Liana had a very painful and frustrating latch-on for 5 months that no lactation consultant could help with) and its something we both are loving right now. I not convinced my daughter has lactose intolerance since she doesn’t ever get diarrhea and the gas pains seem to vary from day to day and week to week (whereas her lactose intake doesn’t vary much). I don't understand how sometimes she has good days/nights? Im also not convinced the specialist knows what he is doing – I think it’s a bit odd that he hasn’t even asked me what solids I feed her – maybe Im feeding her beans and cabbage 5 times a day!!? Im not, of course, but you’d think it would be a routine question for a child with stomach issues? The specialist also wants me to substitute with soy milk and didn’t seem bothered by phyto-estrogens in soy – something that also rings alarm bells.

Of course, if stopping breast feeding was going to cure my daughter I would stop in a heart-beat. Im reluctant though because Im not convinced it’s a lactose-intolerance issue and giving up won’t be easy. My daughter and I are emotionally attached to breast feeding, and my daughter uses it to go sleep for her naps and at bedtime (but not if she wakes in the middle of the night, in which case, after her discomfort ends, she will go back to sleep on my shoulder while I rock her). I think giving up breast feeding right now will be pretty traumatic for her. Im also worried that if I give up breast feeding for two weeks and it doesn’t help, my milk production will have dwindled (I don’t find pumping as simulating to my breast, compared to suckling) so I wouldn’t be able to return to breast feeding.

Anyway, before I make the decision, Im going to meet with the specialist once more (Nov 20th) and ask him some more questions. Im going to push him to order her a blood allergy test, even though he doesn’t think its reliable enough for her age group, some of my friends have had success so I reckon it would be worth trying. (Michelle, my doctor said he has already tested for Celiac disease by looking for antibodies in her blood so you might ask your doctor about this). I also have started my daughter on lactobacillus to help her gut flora. Maybe she will be cured before my next appointment :-D !!!

Thanks again ladies xxo

Michelle - posted on 11/06/2009

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Quoting Janel:



Quoting Michelle:




Quoting Janel:

My son has had serious gas problems since pretty much always. He'll wake in the night several times also, and has to be comforted through it until the gas passes.
The one thing we've done that has helped more than anything else is to get him on lactose free dairy products now that he's eating/drinking regular people food.

I was fairly lucky in that my twins divided up their tummy troubles, so he has the gas and she has the reflux. I hate the idea of either or both having both problems.

At 13 months, giving up breastfeeding is not a crisis, so don't let it upset you if that's the suggestion.








considering breastmilk is the easiest thing on their stomach and the baby has stomach issues it would be wrong to stop nursing and cause the baby MORE problems









Considering that you don't know what the problem is, I don't know what the problem is, that neither you nor I have a degree in this (going on an assumption that you don't) or even KNOW the baby, I'm going to have to go with the idea that the specialist might have more of a clue than either of us. They might not. Some specialists are just dead wrong. It's absolutely ridiculous to believe that 100% of all babies thrive 100% on their mother's perfectly flowing, always uncontaminated milk. Almost always? Sure. The vast majority of babies have the best source of the best food available right at their mother's chest. The blind belief that nothing can ever go wrong with the equation totally ignores reality, though.






Most babies need breastmilk. Most babies will thrive with breastmilk. The ideal situation is to breastfeed exclusively for at least 6 months, start foods but continue breastfeeding until 2 to 3 years. This does not work for every situation.






Health problems, inability to produce milk (which really does happen), incompatibility with food allergies from baby that mother is unaware of, deformities of mouth/ tongue - all of these things happen. I refuse to let the boobmafia continue to make women who tried and failed for any of these reasons feel guilty for the choices they make in the best interest of their babies. Babies who were unable to thrive on their mother's breastmilk in the past either died or were wetnursed by someone else.






 






I do, in fact, have a personal, emotional stake at this. My son was hospitalized because I continued to try to exclusively breastfeed (with much lactation consultation, much help from different herbs and pharmacology) while he continued to lose weight. It, in fact, does upset me when I see other mother's insist that breastfeeding always works and that anyone who is advised by a doctor to supplement or substitute formula is being given bad advice always. Sure, I wish more people really gave an effort before giving up, but seeing as how these are their children we're talking about, I'm not going to go into their homes and raise their children for them, and we're almost all just trying to do the best we can I think I can float the idea that I don't need to judge other mothers for their choices.






There is no one size fits all solution for all babies and mothers.






Finally, in the end, try to remember we aren't talking about abusing a child here. We're talking about, maybe, following the advice of a specialist doctor who recommends that a 13 month old child that has breastfed for over a year might have less pain if she discontinues breastfeeding. The mother can continue to pump and if not breastfeeding doesn't help, she can go back to it. It's not a crisis. If it will help a baby not be in pain, it's worth trying. A second opinion might be worthwhile, but seeing as how she can pump for two weeks while running a trial on whether it helps, I don't see how it's damaging.





this child is onefor  not a baby getting all his food from breastmilk...it's a known fact that breastmilk is best for baby it sounds like she doesn't WANT to stop nursing and is only considering it because of teh specialist suggestion ..if mom wants to continue to nurse she's doing wahts best for her child there are other things like taking milk out of her diet she can do before considering going down that road... i think ins most situations where the continuing to nurse doesnt' work its because the mother is selfish but tha'ts just my opnion

Michelle - posted on 11/05/2009

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Quoting Janel:

My son has had serious gas problems since pretty much always. He'll wake in the night several times also, and has to be comforted through it until the gas passes.
The one thing we've done that has helped more than anything else is to get him on lactose free dairy products now that he's eating/drinking regular people food.

I was fairly lucky in that my twins divided up their tummy troubles, so he has the gas and she has the reflux. I hate the idea of either or both having both problems.

At 13 months, giving up breastfeeding is not a crisis, so don't let it upset you if that's the suggestion.



considering breastmilk is the easiest thing on their stomach and the baby has stomach issues it would be wrong to stop nursing and cause the baby MORE problems

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My son has had serious gas problems since pretty much always. He'll wake in the night several times also, and has to be comforted through it until the gas passes.
The one thing we've done that has helped more than anything else is to get him on lactose free dairy products now that he's eating/drinking regular people food.

I was fairly lucky in that my twins divided up their tummy troubles, so he has the gas and she has the reflux. I hate the idea of either or both having both problems.

At 13 months, giving up breastfeeding is not a crisis, so don't let it upset you if that's the suggestion.

Michelle - posted on 11/04/2009

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my daughter was on reflux meds and still has gas pains... she has an issue with milk could that be your baby's problem? try taking milk out of your diet *i'm also nursing lily still* and out of baby's diet for a week and see if it helps... she can't be tested yet but we are fairly certain our daughter has celiac disease so see if tha't is in your family anywhere as it's genetic and lots of people have it...and the WORSE thing you can do for any child is to stop nursing them before they get the full benefits

Jeanne - posted on 11/04/2009

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We have not had any issues here, but I would see what the specialist says and go from there. She may have something the OTC drugs won't help. Good Luck!

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