When to add a 2nd meal of solids in the day??

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Did you happen to read the rest about how their intestinal walls aren't closed yet? No probably not hey?



As for you michelle I will be 25 in April. I have been out of high-school since 2002 and haven't lived with my parents since I was 16. I got pregnant with my first baby at 18 and still graduated with honours, when I could have quit highschool but I didn't. I am a pretty successful person and know how to research stuff too bad that you can't, all the sites I have posted say its best to wait and not give solids till 6 months. And to all the parents who think your 4 month old is ready for solids I think you're all idiots so good on you. A 4 month old can't even sit up on their own unassisted.

Jeanna - posted on 02/23/2009

My daughter turned 4 months on Saturday and last week I started giving her rice cereal mixed with a little formula at night. I felt she was ready for it. Not my doctor, not a book, not a web page, but me.



Krystal, I went to the first link you posted and this is copied right from it: "The best time to start solids is when the baby is showing interest in starting. Some babies will become very interested in the food in their parents’ plates as early as four months of age. By five or six months of age, most babies will be reaching and trying to grab food that parents have on their plates. When the baby is starting to reach for food, grabs it and tries to put it into his mouth, this seems a reasonable time to start letting him eat. There really is no reason to start on a specific date (four months, or six months). Go by the baby’s cues."



I think this quote says it perfectly, don't you? Thanks for the link.

Michelle - posted on 02/23/2009

yeah it's about you.... twat  huh... something tells me you are a lame high schooler with too much time on your hands...mommie should make you get a job and join an afterschool activity

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

You need to get into see a specialist before they can test it you idiot. I live in canada where I just can't pay my way to the head of the list. Its first come first serve and I have to go to a town 8 hours away to get in to have it tested. So I have to wait. Its been only 2 months since I found it and the doctor checked it and it will be checked out again on my son's 4 month old check-up because my doctor thought it may be a cyst. Again this is not about me you fucking twat and it doesn't even compare to the damage you may be doing.

Michelle - posted on 02/23/2009

then you best call cps on everyone including your self... you aren't doing it by the book you used formula and none of the knot in the breast crud it doesnt' matter if u have a knot or not your kids need for breastmilk should come before yours... and if it was sooooo worrysome they'd had tested it alreaedy

 

 

 

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Krystal you are the ignorant person in this thread. I dont need research to tell me how to raise my son. I do what I think is right, and you do what you think is right. Neither way is more or less correct than the other, because that is the amazing thing about it, we are both entitled to our own opinions, and are free to raise our children in any manner we see fit. I started Parker on rice cereal in a bottle mixed with pumped breast milk when he was 8 weeks old. I did the same with my older son when he was 5 weeks old, and they are just fine. Hell my sister was getting baby food at 5 weeks because of her weight. You are going to find research either way on this one, its all preference. My children are healthy and happy. You need to realize that not everyone in the world is going to share you views on this, and you need to be either more open minded or learn to go about things in a different way, because right now your not coming across as kind and helpful, your coming across as a spiteful mean bitch.

Awe you poor whiny little baby. You don't like the way I come across too effin bad. I don't like you because you continue to argue with me. I am not being mean or spiteful. I'm telling you what the research is. I have more experience then you do in this area. And I am open minded about alot of dumb things that parents do and I keep my mouth shut about them, this and carseats is the only 2 things I speak out about because they are the most important to me and I am entitled to continue to speak out and tell other parents when I think they are being dumb by just going with the flow and not researching it. I'm not the ignorant one here but you are because you can't even research something because your too proud to admit you could be wrong about something.

I dont care how much research you have done...good for you! I am telling you my OPINION on the matter.. you are entitled to yours and I am entitled to mine. My pride has nothing to do with this, I will gladly admit when I am wrong about something, however I feel that I made the best choice for my child.

There are lots of things that I am very passionate about, do you see me freaking out on other parents because they have a different view than I do... hell no, because I am aware of the fact that everyone will raise their children differentley. Waiting until 6 months to start solids is a recomendation that some people make... while 4 months is a recomendation that other people make. Neither is a rule or a law. You went to far when you said we were abusing our children buy giving them solids. Did you try and call CPS on me... I gave you all the info you need... go ahead give it a try... they will laugh in your face because that is a load of bull!

I hope you open your mind to the fact that your way isnt the only way... perhaps your the one whose pride is in the way of things here?

Seriously you are an idiot. You can't admit that you are wrong and your opinion doesn't matter when you can't research and keep up to date on the current recommendations. There is no recommendations that say its ok to start your baby on solids. In fact it says if you are thinking of starting your baby on solids before 4 months the only thing they should be eating till 6 months is RICE CEREAL you idiot so obviously you don't know what you are doing, but it also reiterates that ALL a baby needs till six months is breast milk or formula. My pride is not getting in the way here, because I know what the recommendations are and I follow them because I care about my kids. And I'm not calling CPS on you because I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. I have reasons for stating what I did about that issue and I know for sure that it is indeed fact and they will take your kids for not doing things by the book, because its children's services obligation to protect children from present and future health problems, that is their job.

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

OMFG do you not get that it doesn't have anything to do with outer development. A baby can hold down solids fine but not have the lining in their intestinal walls closed which is why it is recommended to wait. It can cause Ulcerative colitis, chron's disease, celiacs disease, diabetes, kidney disorders and a whole pile of crap which usually is not diagnosed till early adolescence or early teens.

Emma - posted on 02/23/2009

look krystal you may have done alot of reaserch but what you need to understand is all babys are different some develope faster than others some babys can handel solid food from 4months and not have any problems at all where as some cant it all depends on your babys development not what the doctors and wot the internet says for example my baby is 4 months and 3 weeks old and is trying to sit up by herself allready when i took her to the baby clinic the other day one of thhe baby health visitors saw her trying to sit up and toled me that i shouldnt let her do that because she is to young it is the same with feeding some websites, doctors and other people will tell you not to start your baby on solids till the age of 6 months and some will tell you that it is fine from 4 months but that is why i dont listen to them i go by my own instincts and do what i feel is rite for my baby i say that if your baby is 4 months of age and you feel it is time to start weening them then just try them with a little bit of solids you will be able to tell wether or not your baby can handel it, if at 4months you try your baby with solids and he/she brings it all back up then obviously they cant handel it and you dont try them again till there 6months but if they dont bring any back up then they should be fine with it. my doctor has seaid the same things that you have sead but i have gone against him and done what i feel is rite and not what he has seaid is rite and it is not the first time i have gone against my doctor or a midwife when it comes to my baby because not long after my baby was born and i started to bottle feed her as i had a problem with the breast feeding that every time i put her to the breast to feed she wouldnt eat enough she would latch on for about 2 minits then fall to sleep on me, i put her on sma baby formular and she ended up with really bad constapation and after 3 weeks of the doctor telling me that she is just a little dehydrated and just to give her water inbetween her feeds i just ignored him compleatly and changed her formular from sma to cow and gate even though i was toled not to cos it would apparently make things worse and it woz the best thing i did for her as within 24 hours of being on the cow and gate formular she started haveing regular bowl moovements and has had no problems with constapation ever since it the same as the day she turned 4months old i started giveing her solids and now 3weeks later she has between 1 and 2 solid meals a day some baby breakfast at arround 9 in the mornin and a hinze baby dinner arround 1 in the afternoon and she has been fine with it she has never been sick after a solid meal and has never had tummy ach after solids so u see you cant always go by what it says on the internet or what doctors and other people say because it all depends on your baby and there development not other peopls reasearch my mum started me, my brother and my sister on solids at 4 months and we all turned out fine my sister now has 3 beautifull kids one new born this month and one at 7 years and one at 5 years both of wich she started giveing solids to from 4 months and now i have got a beautifull healthy baby of my own so if giveing babys solids before 6 months so bad then why is every1 i no that was weend at 4 months healthy enough to have babys of there own that they are eating solids at 4 months and are healthy themselvs. go by your baby and his/her development not the internet

Jackie - posted on 02/23/2009

Katrice,  I usually give Aubrey a tablespoon of veggies at her lunch time feeding, I know it's not much, but it does usually satisfy her.  Than I do cereal with a fruit about an 1 hour before bedtime bottle.  That has worked for me---it actually helps her sleep 2-3 hours in the afternoon and from 8pm-4:30am during the night. 

Take Care,

Jackie Disch

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

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Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

Exactley... they are RECOMMENDATIONS.. not a law that says EVERY baby's system matures at the exact same time.

Seriously you make yourself look like more of an idiot every single time you talk, they are recommendations for a reason you idiot stick now shut up because I'm gonna continue to call you stupid because that's exactly what they are.

Your just ignorant. I am so done with this. You are not worth getting my blood pressure up over. You are a mean, spiteful, arrogant, bitchey woman who is so set in your ways that in your mind you are the only one who is right and everyone else is wrong. You arent worth the air you breath. Your day will come, next year they will be saying 4 months again, and then you will be singing a different tune. I feel for your children, perhaps I need to be the one calling CPS, but then again, its none of my business what you do, just as its none of yours what I do.

 

 

I am not ignorant at all. And I don't care that you think I am mean, spitful, arrogant or bitchy because truly I think you are stupid. I have never said I am right on everything and next year they won't be saying 4 months again and I won't be singing a different tune either. And I am only set in my ways when it comes to carseats and feeding so I don't know where you get that I think everyone else is wrong. I am not the only person in this thread that has said that feeding before 6 months is not a good idea.

Stacie - posted on 02/23/2009

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Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

Exactley... they are RECOMMENDATIONS.. not a law that says EVERY baby's system matures at the exact same time.

Seriously you make yourself look like more of an idiot every single time you talk, they are recommendations for a reason you idiot stick now shut up because I'm gonna continue to call you stupid because that's exactly what they are.

Your just ignorant. I am so done with this. You are not worth getting my blood pressure up over. You are a mean, spiteful, arrogant, bitchey woman who is so set in your ways that in your mind you are the only one who is right and everyone else is wrong. You arent worth the air you breath. Your day will come, next year they will be saying 4 months again, and then you will be singing a different tune. I feel for your children, perhaps I need to be the one calling CPS, but then again, its none of my business what you do, just as its none of yours what I do.

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

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Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

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Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

Exactley... they are RECOMMENDATIONS.. not a law that says EVERY baby's system matures at the exact same time.

Seriously you make yourself look like more of an idiot every single time you talk, they are recommendations for a reason you idiot stick now shut up because I'm gonna continue to call you stupid because that's exactly what they are.

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting April:

Quoting Krystal:

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Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

And some of your research may be outdated to so let's just agree to disagree.

That's a rediculious statement right there. I look at all publishing dates so I know my research is not outdated.

Caroline - posted on 02/23/2009

Thanks :) I love little outfits like that! They're cute and still comfortable! :)

Caroline - posted on 02/23/2009

Thanks :) I love little outfits like that! They're cute and still comfortable! :)

April - posted on 02/23/2009

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Perhaps it's time to call a truce.......

Cute baby, my son has the same outfit :)

Stacie - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

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Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

Exactley... they are RECOMMENDATIONS.. not a law that says EVERY baby's system matures at the exact same time.

April - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

And some of your research may be outdated to so let's just agree to disagree.

Stacie - posted on 02/23/2009

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Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Wow your crazier than I thought!

Go read the law sometime it may interest you. If you don't step in when it comes to abuse issues you can be charged with accessory to child neglect or abuse, you can also be charged with withholding informations from a Children's services office. Sorry that I care about innocent children and its my legal obligation to help them when I see something wrong.

You are constantley contradicting yourself! You said in another post that you call CPS on parents all the time, for petty silly shit that has NOTHING to do with you. Yet in your reply to me you said you wouldn't wish CPS on your worst enemy... so which is it? I spank my son, and I turned his carseat 2 weeks before his 1st birthday. You gonna jump my shit for that too? I am a WONDERFUL mother and I care about nothing in this world lother than my children. As I have said before you are an extremist and you are pushing your beliefs on others. I could find you plenty of up-to-date information that says 4 months is okay to start solids, because thats my view on the matter, and vice versa.  

I'm not contradicting myself. You deserve to have children's services in your life but I don't know WHERE in michigan you live. I'll just continue thinking you are an idiot and hop to fucking god that someone takes your kids away from you. Good on you that you're a fucking dumb american who would rather risk your child's life then do it properly. There is no up - to - date information from any medical organization that would back you up on this, sorry to burst your little dream bubble and good I am glad you think I am an extremist because that means I am doing my job right. You are not a wonderful mother but if telling yourself that helps you sleep at night then so fucking be it keep telling yourself that but you are still a fucking idiot who can't parent properly and one of these days that's going to get you into trouble. I'm glad I live in a country where they take a childs health into consideration and their welfare into consideration because children here are important.

HOW DARE YOU!!! I'll tell you where in MI I live.. Genesee county, the city of Davison... have a blast psyco!

Caroline - posted on 02/23/2009

Perhaps it's time to call a truce.......

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting April:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

No actually there is not alot of research about it backing you up,  and if there is that means it is out dated because the recommendations changed in 2006

April - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting April:

Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

No i DO get it but I'm not going to stop feeding my baby now because he is already used to it and is a very happy baby.  If my child was in agony I would stop feeding him, but he's not. And how do they know what is right for every baby? There are TONS of people out there feeding 4 month olds solids. I know what the researchers think about their systems not being mature but there is also ALOT of research that will back up what the rest of us think.  The age of starting solids is different everywhere you look.

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Wow your crazier than I thought!

Go read the law sometime it may interest you. If you don't step in when it comes to abuse issues you can be charged with accessory to child neglect or abuse, you can also be charged with withholding informations from a Children's services office. Sorry that I care about innocent children and its my legal obligation to help them when I see something wrong.

You are constantley contradicting yourself! You said in another post that you call CPS on parents all the time, for petty silly shit that has NOTHING to do with you. Yet in your reply to me you said you wouldn't wish CPS on your worst enemy... so which is it? I spank my son, and I turned his carseat 2 weeks before his 1st birthday. You gonna jump my shit for that too? I am a WONDERFUL mother and I care about nothing in this world lother than my children. As I have said before you are an extremist and you are pushing your beliefs on others. I could find you plenty of up-to-date information that says 4 months is okay to start solids, because thats my view on the matter, and vice versa.  

I'm not contradicting myself. You deserve to have children's services in your life but I don't know WHERE in michigan you live. I'll just continue thinking you are an idiot and hop to fucking god that someone takes your kids away from you. Good on you that you're a fucking dumb american who would rather risk your child's life then do it properly. There is no up - to - date information from any medical organization that would back you up on this, sorry to burst your little dream bubble and good I am glad you think I am an extremist because that means I am doing my job right. You are not a wonderful mother but if telling yourself that helps you sleep at night then so fucking be it keep telling yourself that but you are still a fucking idiot who can't parent properly and one of these days that's going to get you into trouble. I'm glad I live in a country where they take a childs health into consideration and their welfare into consideration because children here are important.

Stacie - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Wow your crazier than I thought!

Go read the law sometime it may interest you. If you don't step in when it comes to abuse issues you can be charged with accessory to child neglect or abuse, you can also be charged with withholding informations from a Children's services office. Sorry that I care about innocent children and its my legal obligation to help them when I see something wrong.

You are constantley contradicting yourself! You said in another post that you call CPS on parents all the time, for petty silly shit that has NOTHING to do with you. Yet in your reply to me you said you wouldn't wish CPS on your worst enemy... so which is it? I spank my son, and I turned his carseat 2 weeks before his 1st birthday. You gonna jump my shit for that too? I am a WONDERFUL mother and I care about nothing in this world lother than my children. As I have said before you are an extremist and you are pushing your beliefs on others. I could find you plenty of up-to-date information that says 4 months is okay to start solids, because thats my view on the matter, and vice versa.  

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Wow your crazier than I thought!

Go read the law sometime it may interest you. If you don't step in when it comes to abuse issues you can be charged with accessory to child neglect or abuse, you can also be charged with withholding informations from a Children's services office. Sorry that I care about innocent children and its my legal obligation to help them when I see something wrong.

Krystal - posted on 02/23/2009

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Stacie:

Krystal you are the ignorant person in this thread. I dont need research to tell me how to raise my son. I do what I think is right, and you do what you think is right. Neither way is more or less correct than the other, because that is the amazing thing about it, we are both entitled to our own opinions, and are free to raise our children in any manner we see fit. I started Parker on rice cereal in a bottle mixed with pumped breast milk when he was 8 weeks old. I did the same with my older son when he was 5 weeks old, and they are just fine. Hell my sister was getting baby food at 5 weeks because of her weight. You are going to find research either way on this one, its all preference. My children are healthy and happy. You need to realize that not everyone in the world is going to share you views on this, and you need to be either more open minded or learn to go about things in a different way, because right now your not coming across as kind and helpful, your coming across as a spiteful mean bitch.

Awe you poor whiny little baby. You don't like the way I come across too effin bad. I don't like you because you continue to argue with me. I am not being mean or spiteful. I'm telling you what the research is. I have more experience then you do in this area. And I am open minded about alot of dumb things that parents do and I keep my mouth shut about them, this and carseats is the only 2 things I speak out about because they are the most important to me and I am entitled to continue to speak out and tell other parents when I think they are being dumb by just going with the flow and not researching it. I'm not the ignorant one here but you are because you can't even research something because your too proud to admit you could be wrong about something.

I dont care how much research you have done...good for you! I am telling you my OPINION on the matter.. you are entitled to yours and I am entitled to mine. My pride has nothing to do with this, I will gladly admit when I am wrong about something, however I feel that I made the best choice for my child.

There are lots of things that I am very passionate about, do you see me freaking out on other parents because they have a different view than I do... hell no, because I am aware of the fact that everyone will raise their children differentley. Waiting until 6 months to start solids is a recomendation that some people make... while 4 months is a recomendation that other people make. Neither is a rule or a law. You went to far when you said we were abusing our children buy giving them solids. Did you try and call CPS on me... I gave you all the info you need... go ahead give it a try... they will laugh in your face because that is a load of bull!

I hope you open your mind to the fact that your way isnt the only way... perhaps your the one whose pride is in the way of things here?

Seriously you are an idiot. You can't admit that you are wrong and your opinion doesn't matter when you can't research and keep up to date on the current recommendations. There is no recommendations that say its ok to start your baby on solids. In fact it says if you are thinking of starting your baby on solids before 4 months the only thing they should be eating till 6 months is RICE CEREAL you idiot so obviously you don't know what you are doing, but it also reiterates that ALL a baby needs till six months is breast milk or formula. My pride is not getting in the way here, because I know what the recommendations are and I follow them because I care about my kids. And I'm not calling CPS on you because I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. I have reasons for stating what I did about that issue and I know for sure that it is indeed fact and they will take your kids for not doing things by the book, because its children's services obligation to protect children from present and future health problems, that is their job.

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Wow your crazier than I thought!

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Stacie:

Krystal you are the ignorant person in this thread. I dont need research to tell me how to raise my son. I do what I think is right, and you do what you think is right. Neither way is more or less correct than the other, because that is the amazing thing about it, we are both entitled to our own opinions, and are free to raise our children in any manner we see fit. I started Parker on rice cereal in a bottle mixed with pumped breast milk when he was 8 weeks old. I did the same with my older son when he was 5 weeks old, and they are just fine. Hell my sister was getting baby food at 5 weeks because of her weight. You are going to find research either way on this one, its all preference. My children are healthy and happy. You need to realize that not everyone in the world is going to share you views on this, and you need to be either more open minded or learn to go about things in a different way, because right now your not coming across as kind and helpful, your coming across as a spiteful mean bitch.

Awe you poor whiny little baby. You don't like the way I come across too effin bad. I don't like you because you continue to argue with me. I am not being mean or spiteful. I'm telling you what the research is. I have more experience then you do in this area. And I am open minded about alot of dumb things that parents do and I keep my mouth shut about them, this and carseats is the only 2 things I speak out about because they are the most important to me and I am entitled to continue to speak out and tell other parents when I think they are being dumb by just going with the flow and not researching it. I'm not the ignorant one here but you are because you can't even research something because your too proud to admit you could be wrong about something.

I dont care how much research you have done...good for you! I am telling you my OPINION on the matter.. you are entitled to yours and I am entitled to mine. My pride has nothing to do with this, I will gladly admit when I am wrong about something, however I feel that I made the best choice for my child.

There are lots of things that I am very passionate about, do you see me freaking out on other parents because they have a different view than I do... hell no, because I am aware of the fact that everyone will raise their children differentley. Waiting until 6 months to start solids is a recomendation that some people make... while 4 months is a recomendation that other people make. Neither is a rule or a law. You went to far when you said we were abusing our children buy giving them solids. Did you try and call CPS on me... I gave you all the info you need... go ahead give it a try... they will laugh in your face because that is a load of bull!

I hope you open your mind to the fact that your way isnt the only way... perhaps your the one whose pride is in the way of things here?

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

You know what I am very educated which is why I have more education in this subject then you do. You want to go head for head? My 5.5 and 2.5 year olds both have more manners then most adults do. My children have been raised on my morals and attachment parenting and have come out better because of it.  You won't see any conversation started on me about the manner issues because I don't need help in that area. Most of the parents on this board are arrogant and ill-educatated (which by the way is a word) apparently you're illiterate too. I'm well aware of the risks of formula feeding my child but unfortunately I had no other choice in the matter. Your childs health is my business unfortunately. As it is the business of every other concerned parent out there. Unfortunately when it comes to child issues that is everyone's business and its parents like you and the rest of the world that think other people's children aren't our business is what gets babies killed from child abuse, or children get molested, or beaten everyday. And you also don't get through your thick skull that doctor's can be wrong, they aren't gods they are human. The doctor's I have listed sites from are following the recommendations of the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that makes it their mission to ensure the health and well being of everyone. They don't just do research to not have it used. I don't have an issue with getting attention in my home life at all as a matter of fact. I do however have an issue with IDIOT PARENTS that have issues with keeping their kids safe whether it be with feeding, sleeping, putting their kids in the front seat too soon, taking them out of a carseat too soon, putting them forward facing too soon or any other issue that takes a bit of common sense and research, wanna know how much of a piece of work I am? I've called the cops on parents numerous times for not having their kids in a proper car seat, I've called children's services on parents who abuse their kids, I've yelled at idiots for hitting their children in public or yelling at them and embarrassing them, why? Because all of what I have listed is ILLEGAL. I put my nose exactly where it belongs in the well-being of the children because by law I have an obligation to protect every childin this country. It's illegal to know that a child is in danger and not report it.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Stacie:

Krystal you are the ignorant person in this thread. I dont need research to tell me how to raise my son. I do what I think is right, and you do what you think is right. Neither way is more or less correct than the other, because that is the amazing thing about it, we are both entitled to our own opinions, and are free to raise our children in any manner we see fit. I started Parker on rice cereal in a bottle mixed with pumped breast milk when he was 8 weeks old. I did the same with my older son when he was 5 weeks old, and they are just fine. Hell my sister was getting baby food at 5 weeks because of her weight. You are going to find research either way on this one, its all preference. My children are healthy and happy. You need to realize that not everyone in the world is going to share you views on this, and you need to be either more open minded or learn to go about things in a different way, because right now your not coming across as kind and helpful, your coming across as a spiteful mean bitch.

Awe you poor whiny little baby. You don't like the way I come across too effin bad. I don't like you because you continue to argue with me. I am not being mean or spiteful. I'm telling you what the research is. I have more experience then you do in this area. And I am open minded about alot of dumb things that parents do and I keep my mouth shut about them, this and carseats is the only 2 things I speak out about because they are the most important to me and I am entitled to continue to speak out and tell other parents when I think they are being dumb by just going with the flow and not researching it. I'm not the ignorant one here but you are because you can't even research something because your too proud to admit you could be wrong about something.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting April:

Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

That's the thing you are not getting though. MOST doctor's still go with the old recommendations and not the new ones because they DO NOT do the research and just go with the old recommendations. That's my whole point. There is very much research to back up what I am stating and all of those sites will tell you the exact same thing I have about the intestinal walls.

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Katrice:

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

I think I just fell in love with you...lol.

That was the most educated and well said thing I have ever heard. Kudos to you! Thank you for so gracefully saying what I was trying to... badly perhaps.

Kat - posted on 02/22/2009

Krystal, you really are a piece of work. You're right though - you haven't gotten through to anyone. Because you've made everyone determined not to let you be right. You have given proof over & over again that you are rude, ignorant, arrogant, uneducated, dogmatic, insensitive & pathetic person. You did not wake up one morning & say "we must not feed our children any solids before 6 months of age" & then go out and scientifically/medically prove it. You read a book, a blog, a website & a brochure. You did not formulate this FACT for yourself, you were told by someone else & then took it on as your OPINION. And that is all it is, your opinion. If I wanted to I could find a lot of information supporting feeding even before 4 months, if you want information to support your idea's you'll be able to find it. There is as much information from Doctors, Ped's, Midwives & Mothers Groups advising feeding from 4-6 months when the child is ready as there is information advising from 6 months onwards only. You know Obesity, Gastrointestinal problems, Allergies & SIDS are also linked to Formula fed babies. And I would NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER give formula to my child. But what goes on in my house is not your business & what goes on in your house is none of my business, & I make no judgement on anyone else for the decisions they make on any of the contentious issues. Should we also mention Co-sleeping, Circumcision, cloth nappies, smacking and anything else that one could get "passionate" about.
You made mention to Jennifer that "Doctors can be wrong you know", well equally your doctor could be wrong. Why is it that every single other Doctor is wrong bar the 3 you mention? They share your view, that's all it is.
You said to Linda you wouldn't give her Kudo's for having an older child, but you reference your older children on at least 3 occasions, does this automatically give you some sort of degree or level of expertise that no-one else is entitled? If life experience isn't enough for someone else to have a view point then your life experience isn't enough either.
You can't tell me 100% of all the millions & millions of babies have their Intestinal Tracts mature at exactly the 6 month point, not before, not after but at exactly 6 months. Every single little child around the world. Come on! Life isn't black & white.
You say to Kelsey you are the farthest from selfish, so why is your view point so important. If your not selfish let someone else have one too. Share the floor Krystal, let someone else have a go. You say Kelsey is twisting it to make it all about you, no one has had more to say than you, YOU have made it all about you. Do you have a problem getting attention at home or something? (Strike that from the record, what happens in your home is none of my business)
Ill-educated is not a word, it is uneducated. Have you ever heard the term "You will kill more bees with honey"? Something to consider.
I suspect we'll see a conversation started by Krystal in the future asking for help: 'My children don't know how to use manners & show respect for others, please help'?

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Krystal you are the ignorant person in this thread. I dont need research to tell me how to raise my son. I do what I think is right, and you do what you think is right. Neither way is more or less correct than the other, because that is the amazing thing about it, we are both entitled to our own opinions, and are free to raise our children in any manner we see fit. I started Parker on rice cereal in a bottle mixed with pumped breast milk when he was 8 weeks old. I did the same with my older son when he was 5 weeks old, and they are just fine. Hell my sister was getting baby food at 5 weeks because of her weight. You are going to find research either way on this one, its all preference. My children are healthy and happy. You need to realize that not everyone in the world is going to share you views on this, and you need to be either more open minded or learn to go about things in a different way, because right now your not coming across as kind and helpful, your coming across as a spiteful mean bitch.

April - posted on 02/22/2009

Yes I have researched it, maybe not as much as you but my Dr told me that it would fine to start him on it at 4 months. I wasn't feeding him solids until then as everyone was telling me I should, but I didn't listen to them, I listened to my dr. I know several people who have babies within a week or two of my baby's age and we all have different dr's who all started the babies on solids at 4 months. In what to expect the first year it states that the age that you should start solids is 4-6 months not just 6 months. I did do research on the internet as well, no I can't tell you the sites because I was just browsing looking for answers and all the answers were different. I'm sure there are critics for both sides. People were telling me to start him out on cereal at 6 weeks, but I went with my better judgement because I didn't feel he was ready. But he is now, he's doing exceptionally well on solids. I feel that my dr knows way more than me about babies and the correct ages for whatever they are going through.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting April:

Look Krystal, the reason why everyone is being so hard on you is because you are being REALLY rude and obnoxious to people who are just looking for advice on subjects that they have questions about. You could better get your point across if you weren't cursing everyone and calling them idiots or stupid. Maybe you have done tons of research and we all get that you are very passionate about the subject for your own personal reasons, but EVERY baby is different. No two babies are alike and as mothers we all have to do what we feel is right, just like you feel you are doing what is right for your child. I'm not arguing with you about the subject, I'm just writing you to tell you that we know how you feel about the subject, but we disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinion also but you are going about the wrong way.

Have you even taken the time to research it before you just went ahead and fed your baby solids? Probably not hey? If you had you probably would have found that your child was just going through a growth spurt which is normal for this age and probably not needing solids at all.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Stacie:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

 

 

DO NOT EVEN GET STARTED WITH ME ON THE SIDS ISSUE OR WHY I AM SO AGAINST FEEDING YOUR BABY SOLIDS BEFORE 6 MONTHS. I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN THIS GROUP AS ANY OTHER PERSON HERE AND YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST. YOU GOT THAT. GOOD. I HAVE TRIED UMPTEEN TIMES BEFORE GETTING ANGRY AND CALLING PEOPLE OUT AND CALLING THEM NAMES. I TRIED BEING NICE AND NOW I AM NOT BEING NICE ANYMORE. I GAVE PEOPLE INFORMATION ON WHERE TO LOOK AND THEN I GOT BITCHED AT BECAUSE I DO NOT BREAST FEED. I HAVE SEEN WAY TOO MANY KIDS COME INTO THE CLINIC I USED TO WORK AT WITH GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF FEEDING TOO EARLY. AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH GAURUNTEE YOU HAVEN'T DONE MORE RESEARCH THEN I HAVE INTO SIDS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH I HAVE DONE. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED ME. AS IN I HAVE GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS DUE TO BEING FED TOO EARLY ON SOLIDS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE AMOUNT OF REASEARCH THERE IS NOW ON THE SUBJECT. FAR TOO MANY TIMES A PARENT WILL TRUST A DOCTOR OVER RESEARCHING WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME IS TO HAVE YOUR BABY ON SOLIDS. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AS A PERSON NOR DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO AGAIN DON'T TRY AND TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST BECAUSE CHANCES ARE YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET THE RESULT YOU WANT.

 

AS FOR MY BREASTFEEDING MY SON AND BEING LAZY I CAN NOT STRESS TO ANYONE ENOUGH HOW MUCH I WANTED THAT. BUT I COULD NOT MY SON WOULD SCREAM IN AGONY ON MY BREAST MILK, THEY ALSO FOUND A LUMP IN MY BREAST THAT STILL HAS TO BE BIOPSIED WHICH IS NOT NORMAL IN BREAST FEEDING MOTHERS SO SERIOUSLY ALL YOU BITCHES NEED TO BACK THE HELL OFF WHEN IT COMES TO ME BREAST FEEDING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ITS ABOUT YOU GUYS HAVING LACK OF INFORMATION AND LACK OF RESEARCHING. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS HELP YOU.

Do you realize that nothing you say makes sence? How can you possibly know that your GI issues are directley related to you having solids too early??? Did your dr say to you 'oh your mother must have fed you solids at 4 months old... this is her fault" I highley doubt it.

As for you trying to be nice... you were never nice, you instantley started bashing everyone telling us we are idiots and stupid. You have your way of raising you children (God help them) and we all have ours. If your trying to help as you claim, you need to do some research on being nice, seeing as you claim to be SOO good at research,  because your not helping anyone calling us, and our medical doctors names.

I am not getting into this yet again with you. The research is there EVERY MAJOR health organization has researched this. They keep changing the recommendations based on research. I know my gasterointestinal problems are from being fed too early because of the research that's been done and the results of numerous tests they have done. There are not many things that cause holes in your intestinal walls. And yes the first couple of times I posted I tried to be nice then someone called me crazy and told me I didn't know what the hell I was talking about and that was that I wasn't being nice anymore. Of course I am going to call you stupid when you are out right blatently calling me wrong without looking at the research. My kids are healthy because I have done the research obviously so you don't have to worry about that. WHO even backs what I am saying and that is an INTERNATIONAL health organization.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Here are some good links



http://www.bflrc.com/newman/breastfeedin...

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/3/T032000...

http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/readyfo...

http://www.inezhanson.com.au/Portals/21/...

http://www.cradle2kindy.com.au/_bpost_11...



I recommed you all take a look at all of those sites I just gave and really rethink feeding your babies before 6 months.

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

 

 

DO NOT EVEN GET STARTED WITH ME ON THE SIDS ISSUE OR WHY I AM SO AGAINST FEEDING YOUR BABY SOLIDS BEFORE 6 MONTHS. I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN THIS GROUP AS ANY OTHER PERSON HERE AND YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST. YOU GOT THAT. GOOD. I HAVE TRIED UMPTEEN TIMES BEFORE GETTING ANGRY AND CALLING PEOPLE OUT AND CALLING THEM NAMES. I TRIED BEING NICE AND NOW I AM NOT BEING NICE ANYMORE. I GAVE PEOPLE INFORMATION ON WHERE TO LOOK AND THEN I GOT BITCHED AT BECAUSE I DO NOT BREAST FEED. I HAVE SEEN WAY TOO MANY KIDS COME INTO THE CLINIC I USED TO WORK AT WITH GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF FEEDING TOO EARLY. AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH GAURUNTEE YOU HAVEN'T DONE MORE RESEARCH THEN I HAVE INTO SIDS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH I HAVE DONE. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED ME. AS IN I HAVE GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS DUE TO BEING FED TOO EARLY ON SOLIDS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE AMOUNT OF REASEARCH THERE IS NOW ON THE SUBJECT. FAR TOO MANY TIMES A PARENT WILL TRUST A DOCTOR OVER RESEARCHING WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME IS TO HAVE YOUR BABY ON SOLIDS. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AS A PERSON NOR DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO AGAIN DON'T TRY AND TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST BECAUSE CHANCES ARE YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET THE RESULT YOU WANT.

 

AS FOR MY BREASTFEEDING MY SON AND BEING LAZY I CAN NOT STRESS TO ANYONE ENOUGH HOW MUCH I WANTED THAT. BUT I COULD NOT MY SON WOULD SCREAM IN AGONY ON MY BREAST MILK, THEY ALSO FOUND A LUMP IN MY BREAST THAT STILL HAS TO BE BIOPSIED WHICH IS NOT NORMAL IN BREAST FEEDING MOTHERS SO SERIOUSLY ALL YOU BITCHES NEED TO BACK THE HELL OFF WHEN IT COMES TO ME BREAST FEEDING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ITS ABOUT YOU GUYS HAVING LACK OF INFORMATION AND LACK OF RESEARCHING. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS HELP YOU.

Do you realize that nothing you say makes sence? How can you possibly know that your GI issues are directley related to you having solids too early??? Did your dr say to you 'oh your mother must have fed you solids at 4 months old... this is her fault" I highley doubt it.

As for you trying to be nice... you were never nice, you instantley started bashing everyone telling us we are idiots and stupid. You have your way of raising you children (God help them) and we all have ours. If your trying to help as you claim, you need to do some research on being nice, seeing as you claim to be SOO good at research,  because your not helping anyone calling us, and our medical doctors names.

April - posted on 02/22/2009

Look Krystal, the reason why everyone is being so hard on you is because you are being REALLY rude and obnoxious to people who are just looking for advice on subjects that they have questions about. You could better get your point across if you weren't cursing everyone and calling them idiots or stupid. Maybe you have done tons of research and we all get that you are very passionate about the subject for your own personal reasons, but EVERY baby is different. No two babies are alike and as mothers we all have to do what we feel is right, just like you feel you are doing what is right for your child. I'm not arguing with you about the subject, I'm just writing you to tell you that we know how you feel about the subject, but we disagree with you. You are entitled to your opinion also but you are going about the wrong way.

Stacie - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

 

 

DO NOT EVEN GET STARTED WITH ME ON THE SIDS ISSUE OR WHY I AM SO AGAINST FEEDING YOUR BABY SOLIDS BEFORE 6 MONTHS. I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN THIS GROUP AS ANY OTHER PERSON HERE AND YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST. YOU GOT THAT. GOOD. I HAVE TRIED UMPTEEN TIMES BEFORE GETTING ANGRY AND CALLING PEOPLE OUT AND CALLING THEM NAMES. I TRIED BEING NICE AND NOW I AM NOT BEING NICE ANYMORE. I GAVE PEOPLE INFORMATION ON WHERE TO LOOK AND THEN I GOT BITCHED AT BECAUSE I DO NOT BREAST FEED. I HAVE SEEN WAY TOO MANY KIDS COME INTO THE CLINIC I USED TO WORK AT WITH GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF FEEDING TOO EARLY. AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH GAURUNTEE YOU HAVEN'T DONE MORE RESEARCH THEN I HAVE INTO SIDS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH I HAVE DONE. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED ME. AS IN I HAVE GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS DUE TO BEING FED TOO EARLY ON SOLIDS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE AMOUNT OF REASEARCH THERE IS NOW ON THE SUBJECT. FAR TOO MANY TIMES A PARENT WILL TRUST A DOCTOR OVER RESEARCHING WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME IS TO HAVE YOUR BABY ON SOLIDS. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AS A PERSON NOR DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO AGAIN DON'T TRY AND TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST BECAUSE CHANCES ARE YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET THE RESULT YOU WANT.

 

AS FOR MY BREASTFEEDING MY SON AND BEING LAZY I CAN NOT STRESS TO ANYONE ENOUGH HOW MUCH I WANTED THAT. BUT I COULD NOT MY SON WOULD SCREAM IN AGONY ON MY BREAST MILK, THEY ALSO FOUND A LUMP IN MY BREAST THAT STILL HAS TO BE BIOPSIED WHICH IS NOT NORMAL IN BREAST FEEDING MOTHERS SO SERIOUSLY ALL YOU BITCHES NEED TO BACK THE HELL OFF WHEN IT COMES TO ME BREAST FEEDING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ITS ABOUT YOU GUYS HAVING LACK OF INFORMATION AND LACK OF RESEARCHING. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS HELP YOU.

Do you realize that nothing you say makes sence? How can you possibly know that your GI issues are directley related to you having solids too early??? Did your dr say to you 'oh your mother must have fed you solids at 4 months old... this is her fault" I highley doubt it.

As for you trying to be nice... you were never nice, you instantley started bashing everyone telling us we are idiots and stupid. You have your way of raising you children (God help them) and we all have ours. If your trying to help as you claim, you need to do some research on being nice, seeing as you claim to be SOO good at research,  because your not helping anyone calling us, and our medical doctors names.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Emma:

Breast milk or formula in proper amounts can supply newborn babies with all the nutrition they need for their first six months of life. Then, usually sometime between 4 and 6 months of age, babies begin to eat solid foods, such as cereal, fruits and vegetables. After 6 months of age, as they start eating solids more routinely, babies tend not to drink as much breast milk or formula each day. Babies progressively make the transition from the breast or bottle to the cup, and finally drink all of their liquids from a cup. (I found this artical on a weening advice site on the net and thought it may be quite usefull)

 

Where did you find that I would like to look at its publishing date. Please look at when a baby's intestinal walls close and mature. And base your decision to feed on that. I will find you a site. Its not about allergies its about how mature their intestinal wall is and you don't know when that is so its far better to wait till 6 months before starting solids to make sure the intestinal walls have closed and the lining has matured.

Krystal - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Jennifer:

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

DO NOT EVEN GET STARTED WITH ME ON THE SIDS ISSUE OR WHY I AM SO AGAINST FEEDING YOUR BABY SOLIDS BEFORE 6 MONTHS. I HAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN THIS GROUP AS ANY OTHER PERSON HERE AND YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST. YOU GOT THAT. GOOD. I HAVE TRIED UMPTEEN TIMES BEFORE GETTING ANGRY AND CALLING PEOPLE OUT AND CALLING THEM NAMES. I TRIED BEING NICE AND NOW I AM NOT BEING NICE ANYMORE. I GAVE PEOPLE INFORMATION ON WHERE TO LOOK AND THEN I GOT BITCHED AT BECAUSE I DO NOT BREAST FEED. I HAVE SEEN WAY TOO MANY KIDS COME INTO THE CLINIC I USED TO WORK AT WITH GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS THAT WAS DIRECTLY AS A RESULT OF FEEDING TOO EARLY. AND I CAN PRETTY MUCH GAURUNTEE YOU HAVEN'T DONE MORE RESEARCH THEN I HAVE INTO SIDS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH I HAVE DONE. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED ME. AS IN I HAVE GASTEROINTESTINAL PROBLEMS DUE TO BEING FED TOO EARLY ON SOLIDS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE AMOUNT OF REASEARCH THERE IS NOW ON THE SUBJECT. FAR TOO MANY TIMES A PARENT WILL TRUST A DOCTOR OVER RESEARCHING WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME IS TO HAVE YOUR BABY ON SOLIDS. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AS A PERSON NOR DO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO AGAIN DON'T TRY AND TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT POST BECAUSE CHANCES ARE YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET THE RESULT YOU WANT.

AS FOR MY BREASTFEEDING MY SON AND BEING LAZY I CAN NOT STRESS TO ANYONE ENOUGH HOW MUCH I WANTED THAT. BUT I COULD NOT MY SON WOULD SCREAM IN AGONY ON MY BREAST MILK, THEY ALSO FOUND A LUMP IN MY BREAST THAT STILL HAS TO BE BIOPSIED WHICH IS NOT NORMAL IN BREAST FEEDING MOTHERS SO SERIOUSLY ALL YOU BITCHES NEED TO BACK THE HELL OFF WHEN IT COMES TO ME BREAST FEEDING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ITS ABOUT YOU GUYS HAVING LACK OF INFORMATION AND LACK OF RESEARCHING. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS HELP YOU.

Emma - posted on 02/22/2009

Breast milk or formula in proper amounts can supply newborn babies with all the nutrition they need for their first six months of life. Then, usually sometime between 4 and 6 months of age, babies begin to eat solid foods, such as cereal, fruits and vegetables. After 6 months of age, as they start eating solids more routinely, babies tend not to drink as much breast milk or formula each day. Babies progressively make the transition from the breast or bottle to the cup, and finally drink all of their liquids from a cup. (I found this artical on a weening advice site on the net and thought it may be quite usefull)

Jennifer - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

Jennifer - posted on 02/22/2009

Quoting Krystal:

Quoting Jennifer:

wow...I just went to the ped today & she said feeding solids at this age is fine. Think I'll trust her on that.

Yeah well your doctor is an idiot and is probably of the old recommendations mentality. I happen to have 3 children 5 and 1/2, 2 and 1/2 and 4 months. Just for the record I can give you 50 million sites that will tell you that feeding your baby solids before 6 months old causes health risks and increases a baby's risk of SIDs, gasterointestinal disorders, allergies and a crap load of other stuff. Doctor's can be wrong you know. Maybe try doing some research before just listening to a ped who may not be up to date. Good for you that your listening to a doctor who is willing to put your child at risk. The only food your child needs is Formula or breast milk or formula for the first 6 months of their lives. My child happens to be 18lbs and 26 inches long and I just asked my doctor about this same thing because he's a VERY hungry baby too. And you know what his doctor told me ABSOLUTELY NO SOLIDS till 6 MONTHS OLD!!!! Things are not the same as they were 6, 5, 4,3,2 even a YEAR ago so don't be going oh I've had kids before and this was the recomendation before. SERIOUSLY GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE and stop risking your child's health.

Krystal,

Sadly I have done much more research on the possible causes & risks of SIDS than you EVER will. I cannot fathom why you are so angry about other people's children' s diets. Do I agree with parents who put their babies to sleep on their stomach's or leave the bumper pads up in the cribs? No I don't, but never in a million years would I presume to act the way you have. It is inexcusable & perhaps your energies would be better dedicated to another group.

Esther - posted on 02/22/2009

Deadra,
I do agree that we should stop the personal attacks as they really accomplish nothing. As for posting data & research, here are a few links that I have found helpful, and others may as well, as we all attempt to figure out what is best:
http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids...
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi...
http://www.unicef.org/nutrition/index_br...
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/3/T032000...

Good luck to you all, and I hope that we can end the attacks and simply stick to the topic...

~Esther
http://meaningfulalbums.blogspot.com

Deadra - posted on 02/22/2009

OH so yes I am feeding him single grain rice cereal and apple sauce... today was his first taste of peaches... which be careful to wait two weeks between to trying new foods, lotions, or anything!!  AND gradually increase the amount of rice cereal start off with 2 teaspoons per 2 oz. of milk or water!

Emma - posted on 02/22/2009

i beleve in doing what all the midwifes toled me was the best thing to do the day i had my baby and that is you should go by your instincts and do what you feel is rite for your baby, nobody knows your baby better than you do and if you there fore only you will know what your baby wants and needs for example if your baby is 4months plus and u feel he/she is ready for weening then you should do what you feel is rite for you and your baby. you do what you think is best for you and your baby not what other people think or tell you is rite, if u feel like you need to ask other people for advice or have a look through the baby books to help you along a little with your dicitions then thats fine theres nothing wrong with that at all. i mean dont get me rong i am a first time mum and am only 17 years old so im no expert i have looked after a few babys from the age of 1month plus so i guess that helps me a little but i go on my own instinct and do what i feel is rite for my baby but sometimes i like to hear other peopls oppinion on things and even ask other mums including my own for advice

Deadra - posted on 02/22/2009

To the two parents that are going at it on the discussion board.... I dont think its cool.  Rather than personal attacks post the research.  I done the research and I see both sides of the story.  Every child is different... with feeding baby solids you should watch for the health issues (change in attitude, bowels, color of the skin, texture of the skin, ....).  You can try solids if your doctor okay it and you did your own research on what and how much to start. 

Single grain rice cereal is usual the first solid than apple sauce or peaches... which those to fruits are good with keeping the flow of the bowels and babys love the fruit first than vegetables.  It is all up to you. 

My baby was screaming hunger when I tried breastfeeding (I was on a health diet plus he was not latching on or holding the milk down too well) and small amounts of formula. I tried feeding him more milk, but it wasnt helping the hunger... the screaming was like every hour and a half.  I held off feeding cereal for about 3 months by switching his formula to AR milk with rice starch... helped for a month, but the appetitte kept growing.  So, I started him on rice cereal about 14-16  weeks (about 4 months).  If I am going to jail for it, so be it!  I rather watch him not feel neglected and develop a pscyhological "mommy neglect me" feeling than the feeling of being love... Science and Psychologist argue about this stuff all the time... NATURE vs NURTURE!  You should know your baby... to make the best decisions for your own baby!  I was feed solids at 1 month and nothing is wrong with me... just pick the solid wisely... nothing with acid or nothing thick.

PLEASE NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS POST REAL DATA... RESEARCH FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO REALLY NEEDS HELP WITH FINDING MORE RESEARCH...

~D.L. first time mom, but finding a balance between nature and nurture!

Michelle - posted on 02/22/2009

watch out with the water it can cause baby to have an imbalance of electrolytes..improperly digesting nutrients and the empty calories can cause issues with their weight.

 

 

Quoting Emma:

Quoting Katrice:

When to add a 2nd meal of solids in the day??

Hi, I have started feeding Emily solids for approx 3 weeks now (at dinner time pm). She is loving it. The last couple of days she has been very unsettled during the day. Not sleeping well & just plain miserable. She also is wanting to feed earlier than usual. I have treated her for teething but to no avail, so I am thinking she might be hungry. Is there generally a growth spurt around 20 weeks?? Or should I consider adding another meal of solids to her day?? Is it too soon?? Is anyone else doing more than one solids meal a day?? lots of questions - sorry. ; )

my baby girl is now 4 months old and i have recantly started weening her, just like your baby she wasnt as settled during the day as she usually is and she had started wakeing up 2 or 3 times during the night for extra feeds where as she used to sleep through the night so i made the decition to start weening. I started with 1 solid meal a day in the afternoon time for arround a week and have now mooved her up to two solid meals a day as she loves her food so and enjoyes herself so much at mealtimes so now she has her baby cereal in a morning and half a small pot ov hinze baby food in the afternoon as well as her usuall milk feeds inbetween. if u feel you are ready to start giveing your baby a second solid meal a day then you can but u do also need to concider that if your baby is haveing infant formular rather than breast milk they do tend to get rather thirsty because infant formular is only a meal for your baby wereas breast milk serves as both a meal and a drink so befor you start your baby on his/her second solid meal a day try offering a bottle or a beaker of water that has been boiled and left to cool inbetween feeds as it may just be that your baby is thursty and if after a couple of days your baby is still unsettled then it may be time to add more solids to there diet.