Children's Condoms WTF?!?!?!?!

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This was a post on a Cafemom Forum I belong to...not my personal opinion...



Please bear with me. I am a bit upset with this topic. In reading posts in other groups, I noticed a post about "Hot Shots", condoms made smaller geared towards younger males, 12-14, Swiss-made.



Now, why am I pissed?? Why in the hell are we even allowing our children enough privacy at such young ages to even have sex?? The majority of the ladies responding to the post completely agreed and loved the idea os smaller condoms for younger ages. Are you serious? What are we telling our children??



This made me think of a woman who wrote to a local newpaper back at home to the "Dear Abby" column about what to do about her 12 year old daughter who was pregnant with her SECOND child. She had her first at 10 years old by her 14 or 15 year old boyfriend.



Seriously. How are children this young able to do this when they should rarely, RARELY, be without adult supervision?? One girl said that some can't help how soon they become sexually ready. Some just mature faster than others. Yes, their BODIES physically mature faster than others, but sexually? They should not even be thinking about having sex at 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 years old.



I don't even really know what to say. My mind is just overflowing and I can not seem to find all the right words. I was 14 the first time I had sex, and I stayed in the shower afterwards until the water was cold, trying to wash all the filth off of me. I look back today WISHING I had never did that, WISHING I kept that innocence until I was really ready.



I understand that more parents must work out of the home due to the economy, but how is it that we can make sure we can keep our house clean and keep dinner on the table and keep money coming in to support our household but we can't even keep track of our kids? Kids are getting cell phones at younger ages that way their parents can keep track of them. Are you kidding me?? How about having your kids with you?? Is that a bad idea.



Ladies, tell me what you think about "Children's Condoms". Tell me how you think we might be able to help gear our chidren away from having sex instead of just telling them at younger ages that we will get them condoms and birth control. Come July, I will have 4 daughters, and I'll be damned if I have to start telling them at 8 years old that we need to talk about birth control and getting them put on it because if they are anything like myself, they will start their periods early and mature physically faster than others their age.

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Jenny - posted on 03/22/2010

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I don't believe sticking our heads in the sand will help the safety and health of our youth. We need to get over the ick factor and think rationally. I lost my virginity at 12 so I know damn well kids that age are having sex. It happened when I was babysitting so I was not supervised. I was educated on proper condom use and we did thankfully use one.

Of course the best case scenario is maintaining purity till they are ready. That is not always the reality though and we should do everything we can to keep them safe. I'd rather my child have safer sex than come home with HIV.

Minna - posted on 03/22/2010

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There are a lot of influences in a young persons life, and try as one might, a parent cannot be there for every last second, putting their two cents in everywhere they are needed. Of course it's tragic that such young people are sexually active. Those kids don't have very well developed judgment. All it takes is one unfortunate bad situation and a kid is pushed into a world he or she is certainly not ready for. I can't say I'm pissed that condoms for younger people exist... I can say that it is sad that society on the whole has developed in such a way to create a need for such a device.

Emma - posted on 04/14/2010

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Ok after doing some reading about why the motivation to produce smaller condoms,

In Switzerland The Federal Commission for Children and Youth interviewed 1,480 people ages 10-20 and discovered that since 1990, more 12 to 14-year-olds were having sex. Germany also conducted a study where a quarter of the 12,970 interview subjects ages 13-20 years said the standard-sized condom was too large, which deterred them from using protection. In response to the study, Lamprecht AG, a Swiss condom manufacturer, designed a condom especially made for smaller penises called the "Hotshot." For 7fr60 ($7.08), users whose penis diameter is 1.7ins could purchase a pack of six and have safe sex. Nancy Bodmer, head of the Centre for Development and Personality Psychology at Basel University research, said: "The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behaviour. They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences"

The results of this study suggest that early prevention makes sense.



Ok the fact is these boys are having sex and are not using any protection the Swiss have made a choice as to hopefully prevent teen pregnancy and the spread of STD's



Swiss law has the age of consent at 16 but it is not against the law for two minors to have sex along as the age gap dose not exceed 3 years.

The Swiss teen pregnancy rate (for the ages of 15-19) is just 4.3 per 1,000 women, compared with 9.9 per 1,000 in neighbouring Germany. In Britain the rate stands at 26 per 1,000, with the US the worst culprit in the western world at almost 42 per 1,000.



According to the tabloid Blick, only six girls under 14 had babies between 1987 and 2007 in Switzerland. The last documented case was a 12-year-old from Cameroon in Valais in 2005.



The Swiss seem not to be putting there heads in the sand regarding teen sex as in comparison to other country's have very low teen pregnancy rates so is this idea really so out there ?

Jenny - posted on 04/14/2010

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Christina, what sounds rational to you does not compute through a hormonally addled teen mind. As I said before, I lost my virginity at 12, willingly and used a condom.

So considering youth are having sex we have two options: stomp our feet and deny them suitable protection or educate the crap out of them and make sure they have the methods to be as safe as possible.

Are we willing to allow the chance of our children coming home with a potentially fatal STD or pregnant because WE are squeemish about them having sex? Let's be truly honest with ourselves about this.

Lyndsay - posted on 03/26/2010

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Well... personally, I think the idea of children's condoms is a bit disgusting. However, to me it is preferable over a pregnant 12 year old. I totally agree that parents need to be more attentive to their kids, and it needs to start BEFORE they physically mature. You can't just ignore them forever and then as soon as you notice they start looking at the opposite sex you follow them around like a shadow. Morals and values need to be taught long before that.

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Christina - posted on 05/05/2011

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My husband started having sex at 13yrs old. I was 16yrs old. Those three years makes a huge difference, even though I will admit I was too young to be having sex.
Children need better supervision. We are not naive enough to believe our children won't have sex as teenagers, but we won't make it easier for them. However, if we know they are contemplating it, we WILL provide birth control and protection for them. If my 14yr old is determined to have sex, nothing I can do will stop it, so I would rather have him protected instead of becoming a parent.

Constance - posted on 05/04/2011

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Meghan, Trust me it makes me sick to think that companies are having to create protection that target kids as young as 10. But as parents we have to face facts there are kids as young 8 having sex. I agree that no child should even be considering having sex but they do.
Me personally I educate my children about every aspects of sex. But even I have a friend who has 2 sons 19 and 12. The 19 yr old thank god he uses protection and hasn't reproduced and right he do not need any children because he completely irresponsible. Just got arrested again. The 12 year old is following not only in his brothers footsteps but also his mothers. She climbs in bed with any man who will pay attention to her. So I know he is having sex because he isn't supervized ever. He runs around till 3 or 4 in the morning, skips school, and I know he is doing drugs. The part that bothers me the most is she encourages him to do the things he does.
Granted most parents would not encourage their children to be have this way but there are a lot of children left alone on daily basis. The get lonely and they are looking for companionship. We don't have to agree with companies making things like this but it is nessary.

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I had my son at Planned Parenthood yesterday trying to get him the Gardisil vaccine because my pcp doesn't carry it. The young lady at the desk told me that they regularly have kids as young as 12 coming in for TREATMENT of HPV. So no, I hate the idea of kids having sex but dammit, there has to be some protection somewhere.

(The vehemence is at the situation, not you.)

Jay - posted on 05/04/2011

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I think it totally wrong to GEAR condoms towards a younger age group. there are enough young people having sex without us encouraging it.
But my parents were really overprotective of me and my sister growing up but we just snuck out lied and eventually just rebelled.. I was sexually active at 11 and had full sex by 13. I regret it now but there is nothing I can do about it, I did always use protection but no-one was condoning it! I wish now I had waited till I met my husband :D
It makes me really think about it now that I have my own child, but I spose all we can do is encourage them to do right and hope they listen!
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Amber - posted on 04/18/2010

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I completely agree about the clothing. That is something that parents CAN control. It drives me crazy when parents say their kids are dressing trashy, and yet they are buying the clothes! Help your children pick out their clothes at the store! Do not purchase things that allow them to look sexual or older....to me that just seems like common sense. You hold the purse strings, don't loosen them for trashy clothes!

C. - posted on 04/18/2010

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Tah, that's disgusting.. I can't believe that someone let their daughter wear something like that.. And to church no less.. Very inappropriate whether or not they're in church. And you're husband is right. People should be ashamed of themselves! Both the people that made those condoms and the parents that let their kids dress and run around like little hoochies/pimps.. Kids should not be made into sex objects.

Tah - posted on 04/18/2010

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also..im in the bed cause i just got in from work and food shopping this morning..i just rolled over and told my husband and he said "so now they are making condoms for kids...they should be ashamed of themselves..."...and withthat good night/morning...lol



p.s Prato..i saw a little girl no more than 9 in the high cut booty panties under her dress in church on easter...how did i see it, because she sat in front of me, her dress was relatively see through and her mother didn't see fit to put a slip on her..the whole service i just wanted to cover the baby up..so we are closer to 5 and 6 year old things then you think....smh...

Tah - posted on 04/18/2010

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i was on my way to the store yesterday and my 13 year old niece was visiting and outside with my son and a 14 year old girl who gives BJ's in the park across the street..now my niece is always up under my sister and today my sister was working, so guess what she was up under me...did i mention she is almost a DD(my niece)....so we know she isn't doing anything, if not my sister and me, her brother is home with her and he is worse on her then us...so i see that she is outside with Pleasure P..(my knickname for the BJ girl...) i know..its bad...and i had my husband stop the car, and called both of them to me and told them in no uncertain terms that they needed to hightail it back to the front of the house because didn't want them around that influence, call it what you want but that is how it is. She is a good girl and i don't need peer pressure in her ear cause that's how i got my 13 year old... I have a 8 year old daughter and niece and i will be darned double sighted if allow them to go on birth control at 10 because they have a 15 year old boyfriend...ARE U KIDDING ME?????? I would have sent the dogs after him(nephews and cousins) and she would have been nicknamed repunzel by the time she got out of her tower.



I started a post about allowing your childs bf/gf to spend the night and i am not sold on allowing that to happen just so I know where they are when they are doing it....i don';t agree with it. Yes I will talk to my children about sex, and i do with my 13 year old, but i am not about to make it easy for him..i am strict and he will probably come to my house and laugh about how strict i was in 10 years, but hopefully he will be tere with his college education and his wife..not with his 3 baby mamas and 5 std's and all that other ghetto mess. I know I won't be able to stop it, but it's not gonna stop me from trying. I know my odds on winning the mega millions, but i still have a ticket sitting on my dresser and my odds with my kids have got to be better than that..



And yes Pleasure P's mom knows she's a little loose booty and her response was "if ___ is doing what everybody says(yes everybody...SMH) she is..then it willcome back on her...not the response you will ever get from me. I have had to give 12 year old girls shots of antibiotics for std's, i have had to run pregnancy test in 12-13 year old girls that were positive. It is all very sad......

C. - posted on 04/18/2010

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Personally, I think that the lower the age goes with things like condom size, the more it's like telling our kids "It's Ok to have sex.. Look! They made a condom that's just your size!" and then the next thing you know, our 5 and 6 year olds will be wanting to wear thongs and wanting to buy condoms. I think it's disgusting. WE NEED TO SET AGE LIMITS ON THINGS! Children are NOT adults and should NOT want to do adult things!!!! Am I seriously the ONLY one that thinks this way?? And honestly, WHERE ARE THE PARENTS ANYWAY????

Amber - posted on 04/17/2010

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The thought of 12 year olds having sex is horrible....but it happens! I do not want my son having sex that young, and want to talk to him and discourage him from it. But I also want him to be properly protected if he chooses to do it against my wishes. We can influence our children, we can set up boundaries, but hormonal adolescents will find a way to do it if they have chosen too. I don't believe that only teaching abstinance is the way to go. There are so many other factors involved in their decisions.
Is it unsettling to think about? YES! Is it necessary? Unfortunately...Yes.

LaCi - posted on 04/15/2010

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You're supposed to be 18 to enter sex shops. We used to sneak into the largest local porn shop for kicks and sword fight each other with the giant double ended rubber dicks. No one ever carded us to enter or to buy anything. Bored in the suburbs, not much else to do.



The first girl to get knocked up in my school did so when we were in the 6th grade-i think i said that already, but she wasn't a deviant kid, totally normal average 6th grader. the next wasn't until high school. But it isn't hard for a 13 year old to get pregnant, if you let them leave the house, walk to a park, go to the mall, they could be screwing there. Unless you lock them in a room the entire 18 years, with bars on the windows, pregnancy is possible and it must be addressed, and if that means making a smaller condom to accommodate the adolescent penis then so be it.

Jenny - posted on 04/15/2010

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Sure, none are marketed to minors. I agree with you there. I was just stating that they do come in small sizes in regards to your comment "Next they'll be making smaller vibrators for young teenagers/children." With the condoms we are reffering to size as being the reason it is for minors so I assumed you meant the same with vibrators.

Although there are toys out there every colour of the rainbow, with prints on them etc. I could see some of the designs out there as being attractive to tweens for sure. Anyways sorry for drifting off topic....

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Jenny: Yes I have a variety of vibrators which vary in size but are any aimed at 12 year olds...I think not! Considering you have to be 18 to get into most sex stores anyways.

Amanda - posted on 04/14/2010

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I think someone's parents need to be doing a better job at parenting! That's ridiculous to make condoms for kids that young!! When I was in middle school(only like ten years ago lol) it was a big deal if I even kissed my boyfriend, much less went any further than that!! Most kids I knew didn't lose it, myself included, till about 16. That's still too young, but 13 or 14? Geezzzz... A couple of younger class kids ended up pregnant and having kids before graduation, but my class was the "good one" apparently, we only had two girls who were showing, and a couple that found out either right before or right after graduation lol. I can't imagine having had a kid at 16, much less like 13... I will say I plan on talking to my son pretty young about it, and telling him he darn well better use condoms and make sure the girls on pills or something when time comes for him to want it lol... and if I have a daughter she will be on some type of birth control at 12 more than likely. It's sad you have to start thinking about things like that when they're just kids still.

LaCi - posted on 04/14/2010

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I'm actually amazed at how LOW the teen pregnancy rate is listed in the US. This must be outdated lol. try 20%, at least. maybe thats just me having too many school in my neighborhood.

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I agree that as unsettling as the thought of children having sex is, it happens! It happens to parents who watch their kids 24/7, who are members of church, who have XYZ... Normal work shifts are 9-5 or whatever? So your kid goes home, alone, and waits 2 hrs doing WHAT before you get there??? I had sex @ 14 while my boyfriend was babysitting his brothers. I snuck my boyfriend over to my g/f's house when I was staying the night there, we talked her parents into letting us sleep in the motorhome and BAM we stayed the night together (we weren't sexually active then but it coulda happened!). They checked on us too...didn't notice! Hell, I snuck my boyfriend in my bedroom at home! So what are you going to do next...stalk your kids and watch them sleep? No matter how close you watch your kids they will rebel!!! The tighter the grip the harder they fight, so good luck with that ladies!!! Oh, and I knew kids who had sex at school, hell it happened a few times on the school bus! Hope that throws plesant thoughts on you "keep an eye on your children" ppl! There were PLENTY of eyes on them on the bus and it STILL happened! But that's ok cuz when my kids (boys eek) are old enough I'll have condoms in the bathroom so when YOUR kid doesn't have the opprotunity to get them or doesn't feel comfortable talking to you about it, they can get them from my kids! ♥ your welcome!

Jenny - posted on 04/14/2010

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Jennifer, vibrators are available in wide variety of sizes already. I just heard of one the other day that looks like pendant on a necklace.

C. - posted on 04/14/2010

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This is just wrong on so many levels. I can't believe people would actually make those! Sorry, but if your (insert word here) can't fit in a condom b/c you're too small, YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAVING SEX!!!

Emma - posted on 04/14/2010

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Ok ive been out of school a while now but the Pear Presser was insane even back then,
I never did it but all my friends did and i know this not just because the said they did.
My mom was a S@HM and she could not keep tabs on me 24/7 no parent can that's just a fact.
Teenagers lie and its not because you have not tough your kids not to, teenagers will have sex in places you don't even want to think about, they do it in front of there friends so don't think because there are 10 of them all together they are not going to do it, they will.
Its a society issue sex is everywhere and it looks cool, kids want to fit in, it is really hard to not follow the pack.
I think that as scary the thought of our kids having sex at that age is the truth is there is so many doing it and you will most likely never know your kid is unless they fall pregnant or get someone pregnant or catch something.
As a mom i will do all i can to prevent them from having sex but i will also make dam sure that they will be safe if they do not head my advice.

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I think it's disgusting and totally inappropriate. Next they'll be making smaller vibrators for young teenagers/children. The age of consent is 16 for a reason and the adults that allow their children such freedom to do what they want unsupervised is ridiculous! Eurgh I feel sick! If your dicks not big enough to fit int he condom then what does that show?

SarahJane - posted on 03/28/2010

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This is a condom to fit adolescents that age... this is not a condom to use with children. I think there's a difference. There's a lot of sick people out there... Kids need to be able to protect themselves, and all other condoms are ineffective because the size of the younger boy's anatomy! I don't want to be a grandma before my time!! I agree this is totally wrong, but kids are sexual at a younger and younger age.

Keisha - posted on 03/28/2010

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Im quite mixed on this one... we cannot be there with our children at all times. That is not even realistic whatsoever, and if children are going to going to have sex they most likely WILL find a way to do it if they really want to. We obviously know its could lead to so many things (i.e. STD`s, pregnancy) and we know they have no business doing it but we have all been that age at one point... and we know we didn't always listen to what our parents told us either. So for those facts I think they they should make these condoms (possibly change the name like somebody else said). I do not agree with forcing a child to go on birth control just because they have reached puberty. I personally have really bad reactions to hormonal birth controls though and just wouldn't want to put my daughter through all those horrible side-effects just because she COULD go out and have sex. I would much rather educate her the best I possibly can and also prevent her from having the chance to do it anyway despite what I say/do ,because everyone thinks they know everything when they're 12.

LaCi - posted on 03/27/2010

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Hey children's sized condoms could help out some adult males who may be having troubles with adult sized condoms. I'm not expert on condoms, not really a fan, but I would imagine 3 sizes doesn't cover all the penises of the world. They should just rename them. "fun size" is probably less emasculating than extra small or childrens ;) I think the idea of a condom called a "children's condom" is really what's disturbing people.

Chelle - posted on 03/27/2010

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this is such a BAD idea....kids that age should be playing with friends not having sex. and if kids knew that condoms were made for them then they would think they are aloud to "do it".

also just thought id throw this one in..... what 12-14 year old is really going to ask for the children size condoms! even teenagers have male pride and i think alot of the boys that would even consider having sex at such a young age would be far to embarrassed to ask for the smaller fitting condoms.

Sunny - posted on 03/26/2010

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I know its not what people want to happen but very young teens do have sex. I first had sex at 14 with a 13 year old and that wasnt weird at all, plenty of 12 year olds were having sex. I know that its not right but they do have sex and even when the parents are watching the kids pretty much the whole time, if they want to bad enough the will find a way. Kids use to sneak under the school building to have sex at lunch time! Has anyone considered that having a condom fitted to that size has some advantages, like having less chances of falling off and air getting into the condom causing it to break leading to unwanted pregnancy or sti's. I know its not something people want to think about but they do have sex and i think anything that is going to help prevent 10 and 12 ect year olds from going through an unwanted pregnancy is a good thing. Of cause education, morals and attentive parents come first but in reality there will still be those kids who choose to have sex younger and i think that they should be able to protect themselves.

JerrieAnn - posted on 03/26/2010

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We can not ever where all time, But who ever thought of this must not have kids. As I a mom of a 15 year old boy I hope and pray that he never finds hime in that place but all I can do is talk to him and tell hime how i feel about it and hope he hears me. My sisters 15 year old girl just found out that she is going to have a baby in Oct., so mybe my son can learn from her. what not to do.maybe seeing what she will have to go though and what she will have to give up.He will make the right one I love her with all heart and will always be there but that is all I can do now, because in the end it is their chose we can not make it for them . If I could I would lock my son and daughter up untill they were 18 or over.
JerrieAnn

LaCi - posted on 03/22/2010

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Hm, I started thinking about sex very young. Curious kid. I wouldn't have actually done it, I was far too shy to go through with that. Times are changing, precautions must be taken. The last thing I want is my son knocking a girl up when he's a teenager, having sex is not as high on my priority list of NO as being a teenage father, throwing your entire life away in child support or getting an incurable infection. I really hope he keeps it in his pant's until he's 16+.

When I was in the 6th grade, about 12, a friend of mine did get pregnant. She was like the posterchild for birth control in our middle school.

and speaking of birth control, If I did have a daughter she'd be on the shot as soon as she hit puberty. Theres no way she could fuck that one up. No missed pills, no broken rubber. Injected and protected. I hate hormones, I hate the thought of my daughter not having every opportunity a kid should have more. I waited until I was 23 and still feel like I missed a million years of fun, I can't imagine 14.

Amy - posted on 03/22/2010

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okay. for me kid condoms are wrong on so many levels. wow wow wow. to gear them AWAY from it? tell all the bad experiences I guess. all the people you know who thought it was hell the first time because it wasn't with a partner who loved them or they weren't old enough to emotionally handle it. it is a psychological experience as well as physical. i'm not looking forward to that part of mommyhood. birds and the bees. i kinda know what to say to my daughter, but to my son....?? my husband and i were each others' first and only so we don't really have all that experience to dish out. but we can really instill that we were both so happy to have waited and that good planning and timing brought us our kids at a good time. kids condoms. wow. maybe it was just a ploy to get condoms out for those guys who regular ones didn't fit?



well, speaking of....do they sell those dental dams too?

BRANDI - posted on 03/22/2010

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OH MY HELL NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING! THIS IS CRAZY REALLY!I HAVE A 15 YR OLD SON AND HE IS SO DUH! I CANT IMAGINE HIM BEING INVOLNED IN THAT. I CANT BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE OKAY WITH THIS.WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO TEACHING OUR KIDS VALUES.IT IS TRUELY SAD THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A LICENCE FOR PETTY THINGS LIKE HUNTING,FISHINGAND A LICENCE TO GET MARRIED BUT 2 RANDOM IDIOTS CAN HAVE KIDS AND EVERYONE WONDERS WHY KIDS ARE SO MESSED UP!!!!!

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eeeww! I have an 11 year old son and I can't imagine him having sex! He just learned about the birds and the bees and thought it was gross. lol But I had sex really young and my parents were control freaks. They had the attitude that they could somehow stop me if they kept a good enough eye on me and it didn't work at all. If anything it made me lie, sneak out, and the moment they weren't looking I was gone. It has alot to do with what their friends are doing also. Almost all my friends were having sex the same time I was. It creeps me out when i think about it now because we were in the 8th grade.

I think a combination of education and some control over kids is the best way to go. But there are always kids that will have sex so I teeter on the edge of whether its wrong or right. It bothers me that they would make condoms for kids though. I mean aren't there different sizes already? I would hope that they are not actually marketing that to children.

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