Facebook angers area breast-feeders...
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Nicole - posted on 02/24/2010
breastfeeding images are never obscene whether the mother is covered or has both breasts out. our culture needs an attitude adjustment especially here in the US where stupidity and double standards prevail. random factoid: my current profile pic was deleted because "it is sexual and harmful to children". good one Facebots! I will continue posting and reposting breastfeeding images. It is a normal act- others need to see the images so they become very ordinary because breastfeeding really is the most mundane task there is- feeding a mammalian baby.
Jackie - posted on 02/22/2010
After breastfeeding for 12 mos I have fed my daughter in many public places...but most times people would tell me they didn't even realize I was feeding her unless I said something, just b/c of the way I positioned my shirts and whatnot...b/c thats what was comfortable for me. If someone isn't modest and doens't care then to each their own...its her boob she's choosing to show. But my thing is if it offends you so much, don't watch me do it! Its not like I ever went to someone else's booth in a restaurant to cozy up to feed her, lol.
I have also heard some people make the comment of how the only reason theres a stigma (in the US that is) is due to the stigma of nudity in our culture vs the rest of the world. I don't know, I don't get what the big deal is, but I Have been exposed to people breastfeeding my entire life, so maybe thats why.
Stephany - posted on 02/27/2010
facebook is being hypocritical at best in this situation. I've seen nasty pictures of (basically) naked women on FB many times, and nothing is done about that. I, for one, feel no desire to post pictures of me nursing my children online. That's not to say that I don't think other people should be able to, I'm just saying I don't see why they would want to.
I don't have a problem with women bfing their kids in public, but I do think that a little modesty is considerate of other people. I'm not saying you need to go to the bathroom, or to a closet, or whatever, but is it so bad to drape a blanket over your shoulder? What about simply turning your chair around, or moving to a place where you are facing a wall? Then your baby isn't covered (if that's what you're worried about), but you're not entirely exposed to everyone else. Just because the law gives a woman the right to bare her breast while nursing, and just because it is a natural experience between mother and child, does not make it comfortable for everyone else to see.
Ez - posted on 02/25/2010
Ok this just pisses me off. I am a member of the group mentioned in the article, as well as another newer group called 'If breastfeeding offends you, put a blanket over YOUR head'. Facebook have been removing pics in that group too, and have deleted the admin's account. It is insane. They use boobs for advertising... that's fine. But to see a photo of a child eating from a breast is nudity and sexually explicit? I don't think so.
I saw a photo of my brother's friend's ass and sack last week. No joke. When I realised the breastfeeding pics had been removed, one of which was mine, I went to check if it was still there (I reported it to see if anything would be done). The other picture is still up, and yet my photo of my daughter breastfeeding is not. Ludicrous.
And to those of you who are offended by that photo in the article... REALLY?? I see more boob in commercials, magazines and in real life every single day than what is visible in that picture. I breastfed my daughter in public with no shame whatsoever. I didn't make a spectacle of myself (I realise SOME hardcore boob fans do this for effect) but nor did I cover my child's head.
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Heather - posted on 03/01/2010
I dont know...I guess I dont understand why woman feel the need to post pics of them breastfeeding? I have pictures of me breastfeeding my son...I have no desire to put them on facebook. I have tons of pics that dont involve my breast in them. I dont know about anyone else, but I would not feel comfortable with my uncles, or male cousins, or friends husbands, or male coworkers...(all of which are friends on facebook and have access to my pictures) to see pictures of me BF my son. I think we just assume everyone should accept a nursing mother...because we are mothers and know the wonderful benefits of BF...but the fact is there are alot people (usually men and the older generation) who look at the breast in a sexual way and not just a source of food. I also think that BF moms should be discreet in public, and if you dont care about being considerate to people who dont want to see it...then dont be offended when people make remarks...being considerate goes both ways.
Charlene - posted on 02/28/2010
I agree.. if you don't like it, don't look.
I am not comfortable nursing uncovered in public but I certainly wouldn't sneer at a woman discreetly breastfeeding without a cover. Like in Nicole's picture, you can't even tell her child is breastfeeding.
And like Sara, I still get nasty looks and comments when covered. The last time I was at Wal*Mart, the only place I could find, besides the nasty restrooms, was a bench in the shoe aisle. I was completely covered, you couldn't see anything and this woman looks down the aisle and all I heard was 'That's fucking disgusting'. She's lucky I was too far down the aisle to say anything, because I was having a really bad day. :P
Facebook is definitely being biased with this. It's pretty sad.
If you don't like it, don't look. It's pretty simple. Even when I cover I get nasty looks. If someone else doesn't want to cover it doesn't bother me and it shouldn't bother anyone else. If you glimpse over and see a woman breastfeeding uncovered and it makes you uncomforable then don't look back.
Amy - posted on 02/26/2010
I never breastfeed (couldn't) but when it came to others I never cared whether or not they breastfed their children in front of me or not. I prefer mothers to cover up but I do know that sometimes a child doesn't want thier head covered so they'll pull at the blanket. As far as facebook goes. If they find that offensive then they need to pull other pictures as well. I've seen worse. I've seen more boobs passing by Victorias Secret in the mall.
Melissa - posted on 02/24/2010
I think someone needs a hobby (other than picking on mothers who do what they need to do to feed their child).
I personally wouldn't post a pic of me nursing, but a mother can nurse anywhere, anytime! Nursing is the natural, God given way, to feed your child. On the other hand, if you are in public, for the sake of others, they do make nursing cover ups.
But people have the choice whether or not to look at her pictures. If someone doesn't like the picture, they don't have to look at it. Not to mention, it's not like the whole world is looking at it. Only people who are friends with her, search her, or may be friends of a friend.
C. - posted on 02/24/2010
That is a load of BS.. I have seen many pictures of my friends who recently had babies, breast-feeding their babies in the hospital.. The pictures that I have seen are tasteful, camera angle strategically done as to know show "too much", so I can't see why they would need to delete those photos. Now, if the pictures were showing it all, eh.. I don't know. I think women should cover up in public when they breast-feed, but if NOTHING other than a little cleavage is being shown.. Come on! Have you seen some of the nasty girls on FB? Profile pictures in their underwear and everything.. And apparently THOSE pictures aren't being deleted! Yeah, sure every [straight] guy wants to see boobs, but I guess it's too much to see them doing what they were made to do? Bullcrap.
Shelby - posted on 02/24/2010
That Alison I fully agree with..I say if it truly involves going against policy because of "nipples" such as the article stated, Then plenty of pictures should be removed. The only thing is, it is truly up to the creators of Facebook as to whether or not men's nipples are considered to be as offensive...I only say that because while I have seen some racy photos, I haven't seen womens' nipples. I've seen mens' nipples...Are they going to consider those the same as "sexually offensive" though...
Because again, but this is just my opinion...In all of my breastfeeding pics, My nipples are never visible, simply because if my baby was eating then my nipple was in his mouth, and if it wasn't then its just a picture of my boob, and I find nothing relating to breastfeeding about that.
Christine - posted on 02/24/2010
I breastfed my kids but when I knew I was going to be out, I brought a bottle just in case..... I was at a zoo where they had a family day and they had this breastfeeding group there talking about the importance of blah blah blah. So I'm walking with my husband and kids and this mom was sitting on a bench nursing her baby but at some point baby nodded off and released his latch and mom somehow clue less to the world around her is sitting there with full breast and nipple exposed to every passer by. This is where I have a problem with breastfeeding in public. I don't want to deal with 'mommy why is that ladies big boobies showing', had the baby been latched, she wouldn't have even batted an eye but it was a breast fully exposed to all. A simple little receiving blanket draped while in public isn't going to smoother the baby. My kids were the wost nursers when there was distraction, they liked quiet so I always picked an area where there wasn't a lot of people traffic for both me and them. I NEVER nursed in a bathroom but did go out to my car a couple times.
Shelby - posted on 02/23/2010
Kati, I'll have to say I see your point totally, If they take down ALL pictures containing any type of nudity based on policy, then not too much can be done about it.
I was reading the article and a part said that it was not the breastfeeding that was obscene it was the nipple...so in all honesty, when my babies were breastfeeding, my nipples were not visible, so I have not seen all the photos on facebook, but if they are taking pictures of the nipples then that wasn't during feeding, and against policy.
Rosie - posted on 02/23/2010
while i do agree that breastfeeding mother should be allowed to in public places, and facebook is being hypocritical, i feel the best solution would be to take ALL the pictures down. breastfeeding ones included along with the nasty pictures of girls with half their boobs hanging out. (i'm not saying breastfeeding pictures are nasty, just the ones of the girls half naked).
there was part of the article that said it was pretty hard for a man to find a breast with a baby attached to it sexy. i've found out from a situation i've seen that that is NOT the case. i was at work, and a woman was breastfeeding her baby in a car in the parking lot. as soon as word got out, you bet your ass there were tons of boys out there dying to get a glimpse of her boob. like it or not that is how our society is. facebook has a no nudity rule for their pictures, plain and simple, an exposed boob is nudity. like i said before they should be taking down the nasty pictures of girls with their boobs half out ALONG with a breastfeeding mother picture. not just the breastfeeding pictures.
i know i'm gonna get alot of comments, but this is my opinion.
Shelby - posted on 02/23/2010
I do find it a little irritating that we have another thread going on about the responsibility of facebook removing sexual things that are damaging to an actual person...and I for one, didn't think they were responsible...Yet they'll remove this group for breastfeeding photos. Huhhh, makes ya think now doesn't it? It does me!!! I guess as a private enterprise they really can do whatever they want, right or not. I only breastfed 2 of my 5, I am literally the only person in my family as far back as I can go to ever breastfeed a child. So needless to say I got a lot of flak for it, and not much support. I loved it though and felt that I gave those 2 children the absolute best that I could give them. In my own honest opinion there is no reason for a woman to completely flash it around as much as possible in town, I mean we can all be a little tactful I think...I mean I don't want to be standing in line in a restaurant and have a man lift up his shirt and start tweaking his nipples because they itch..I know thats not exactly the same thing, but as close as I can get because it is also perfectly natural to scratch an itch. I felt very offended when I would be out somewhere nursing and be asked by a manager or security guard if I would like to use the nursing room...It irritated the shit out of me. I mean for me, I never used a blanket, they were way too heavy. I bought a nice silk sarong, and slung it over one shoulder while I "prepared" myself, latched baby and then removed the sarong for the most part so that we had eye contact and his face wasn't fully covered...I just don't feel the need to whip it all out and let em hang there while we gather our things. This may not be the "ideal" situation but unfortunately we don't always want a scene when we go out either, Now when I was home...A whole other story... If it was just me and the kids and the hubby...Yeah it didn't matter. I even made it halfway to the door to answer it one day before the hubby let me know my boob was still out.
Facebook should be ashamed. Breastfeeding may not be for everyone, but it is a perfectly natural thing for both mother and baby. And like many have said its simple if you don't want to see the pictures, don't look at them. Our children will see boobs and more on NatGeo!!
Melissa - posted on 02/22/2010
Its not illegal anymore for a woman to be topless in public(where i live anyway) so i dont see breastfeeding being different. I say go for it. I personally wouldn't because i dont expose myself in public, but i dont think there is anything wrong with it.
Lady - posted on 02/22/2010
I never needed to use a cover - I think that would have made us both hot and uncomrfortable - I simpley used my clothes to cover up and as you said Nicole there is that point when they latch on that you're bound to be exposed but that is such a short time compared to the length of the feed. In an ideal world we could all just whip them out :-) - but for me there's just too many pervs out there - the same reason I don't hang my knickers on the washing line to dry!
Cassy - posted on 02/22/2010
Babies should not have to suffer while they are eating, but that's just my opinion. My daughter rips the cover away anyway. I can say that I wear a tank top under my clothes and position so you can't tell, but I've seen more boobs in a bikini than in that photo, which is sad! Breastfeeding is nowhere near offensive, unless they've been sexualized in the persons mind.
Nicole - posted on 02/22/2010
I have breastfed 4 children. Breastfed baby # 1 on public toilets, changing rooms and in my car just so I wouldn't have to feed in public. Needless to say, that breastfeeding relationship didn't last long (not just because I was afraid to nurse in public, but it didn't help). Then, married my husband (who's whole family is pro-breastfeeding) and when I had my next 2 children with him, he was very supportive and helped me learn to breastfeed covered (even though he made it clear that I didn't have to LOL). Breastfeeding covered went great with those two! And now... I have my fourth... He absolutely refuses to be covered! I usually double tops or wear nursing clothes (if I can afford them) to help be discreet, but until he is latched I can sometimes be exposed. Mostly because for some reason, he is a difficult latcher. Even at night. With my others if I put them to my breast in the dark, they would find my nipple and latch themselves. This one... NO! I have to have light so I can guide my breast to his mouth like a newborn! If this is a sign of a difficult personality in the future.... OH help me!!! LOL
Some babies eat very well covered and some do not. If you don't want to look at a woman mothering her baby, don't look. I have never heard of a breastfeeding woman holding a gun to someone's head making them watch. LOL And the same with the facebook pics, it's simple: don't look. =)
Minnie - posted on 02/22/2010
I don't use a cover. I don't like them, and my daughter doesn't like them. And I don't care if I flash anyone either :P. Too bad, so sad.
I do agree that breasts have been sexualized in this country and I have been chided in other debates because I choose to not raise my children to conform to our society's standards. But you know what? Just because something happens to be a trend here (in this case oversexualizing breasts) doesn't mean that it's right or that I have to follow along with that.
Exactly! I will say this from my experience.......before I had my daughter I did find it rather disgusting when I saw someone breastfeeding! Now that I have her and I breastfed her for 8 months I can tolerate much more BUT I still feel that women need to and SHOULD WANT TO cover up?? It's a private and intimate bonding experience between mother and child! As for the pics on Facebook......who cares! If you don't like it DON'T LOOK! LOL!
Lady - posted on 02/22/2010
I agree with you Dana although I did breastfeed in public and think breastfeeding is a beautiful and wonderful thing I think you have to appreciate (as annoying as I know a lot of people find this) breasts have been sexualised whether there a baby attached to it or not. I don't think women should be made to feed there children in the bathroom stall or anywhere else I think it should be up to them to choose where and when but I also think it really doesn't hurt anyone to be a little discreet. As for pictures on facebook I personally wouldn't have pictures of me feeding my children but then that's my choice.
OK! I didn't have time to read the whole article but at first glance I have to say I'm a lil' offended by the picture at the top of the article! I would never argue that a woman shouldn't breastfeed in public because I often did, HOWEVER, she should have been more covered up! Would it have hurt her to throw a receiving blanket over the one shoulder? I can see why some people might be offended enuff to say something! I don't expect anyone's child to eat in a bathroom stall but I know that I always did my best to conceal what I was doing.......for everyone's sake! I didn't want my business hanging out like hers was!
Jackie - posted on 02/22/2010
I agree...I am very against this. And with the fact that they are targeting breastfeeding not the "nudity" attached to it b/c they didn't go after any other group with alot more showing. And the breastfeeding pics aren't posted in a sexual way as some of the younger girls are posting their pics either. And it just blows my mind that people don't get the argument of "if you wouldn't eat in a bathroom stall why should my daughter".
just want to say that I NEVER want to see another picture of anyone eating their dinner again! If pictures of babies breastfeeding angers people, then pictures of normal folks eating should anger them as well... its the SAME EXACT THING!!! And I refuse to eat my dinner in a bathroom, a closet or any other area deemed fit for "breastfeeding moms"
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