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I ran across an article on The Stir about how they are finding BPA in some popular canned foods (mainly soups geared towards children). Many commentors thought the obvious choice was to not buy canned items. Is that a sensible solution? With the listeria on cantoloupes and the recent beef recall I'm not sure what the hell to eat anymore. Not everyone has the ability or the land to grow a huge garden and can all of their own food (or raise some cattle, etc). Do you worry about what's in your food? Do you take any extra precautions when preparing foods to make sure they're safe to eat?

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Whoohoo! I can post! I apologize, it's been 4 days that my account has not been working and I've wanted to join this conversation.


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I think it's up to each family to do their own research and make their own decisions about what food is best. We've done the research and we've concluded that we will eat grass-fed beef, pastured eggs, free range chickens, non-homogenized milk, and veggies mostly from our own garden....WHEN those things are available to us and they fit our budget.

To answer your question, Sherri, I only worry about what I put in my children's mouths when we are home. We do eat out about once a week (lunch), at church twice a week (one breakfast, one dinner), and my mom's house once a week (dinner). I let them enjoy all the treats at birthday parties. Heck, I enjoy treats at birthday parties!

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One mother is like you HAVE to feed your children grassfed beef or else! Your husband should take a second job if he REALLY cares about his children!

Yes, because your husband never actually SEEING his children is a great way to let them know that he cares.

Minnie - posted on 10/02/2011

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You can control it to an extent. You can choose to purchase food from small, local farms as opposed to industrial producers. The food is touched by fewer people, is likely handled more carefully and if the food comes from an animal the animal is likely living in better conditions and being fed a more appropriate diet.

Take my milk and eggs for example: My eggs come from pastured chickens five minutes from my house. They peck around for bugs in the grass, and aren't cramped into 12 x12 inch cages. They get adequate exercise and sunlight. They have strong immune systems. Salmonella is an extremely small risk. I'm working on getting some of my own chickens.

Our milk comes from cows the next town over, grass-fed and roaming pasture, not jacked up on growth hormones and antibiotics, suffering mastitis, as opposed to feedlot cows that stand knee-deep in their own feces all day long, being fed grain that greatly increases their risk of developing systemic e-coli.

I get my produce all summer long at the farmer's market, all produced from local farmers. Minimally handled.

We tend to stay away from leafy vegetables in the winter months, aside from cabbage, so that we don't have to purchase it from the grocery store.

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I'm going to have to remember that marinade when I get some salmon! When I do buy it, we usually just season it up with creole seasoning on the grill. So simple and yummy!

Rosie - posted on 10/08/2011

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mmm, grilled salmon, brushed with a marinade of olive oil, lemon juice, dijon mustard, fresh thyme and rosemary, salt and pepper. best way i've found to prepare it. :) even my "salmon tastes so nasty, don't even cook them when i'm around" husband thinks it's edible then, lol.

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Wow! I just read an article that lists the products that contain BPA. My son has eaten most of the food on the list but I am not overly concerned because I only let him eat the food once or twice month. I do wonder how much BPA a person need to be exposed to before they get sick because you can come into contact with BPA from other sources other then food.

If people are worried about hormone levels in prepared food I encourage them to read the ingredients list. One item to look for is "mechanically separated meat". It's pretty nasty stuff. The left over edible portions of meat from an animal, including the reproductive organs and other glands that contain hormones, is torn apart and chopped up and made into tasty bits of meat. The kind you find in kids soup and the meatballs in canned pasta. I try to make my own soup when I can but if I can't I buy the ones with diced whole meat.

When it comes to fresh fruit, veggies and meat I follow the standard precautions. Wash the fruits and veggies before eating. Thoroughly cooking the meat. Use separate cutting boards and knives for meat or cleaning them with hot water and soap before using them for other food stuffs.

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I didn't give up lunch meat sandwiches either, but I don't eat them cold while pregnant. I toast them.

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Yep, that's what we did. We were in an apartment so we just went to friend's houses who had generators because they had the good food lol. I was newly pregnant with my first too! So I couldn't eat a lot of tuna and couldn't eat lunch meat sandwiches. I thought I would starve lol.

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Lol, Sara, I hear you there. All nutrition rules go out the window in the face of a disaster. And canned food is MUCH better than those MRE's they hand out. BLECH! The first few days after a major hurricane we typically eat well, though. We get all the meat out of our freezer and get together with neighbors or family and grill it all up!

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I'm behind...but back to the canned food stuff. Similar to Sherri, I only like canned green beans. I don't like frozen. We mostly buy frozen or fresh, but we also live in an area where we have to prepare for hurricanes. So for the last half of the year we do buy some canned stuff like veggies, tuna and even some fruits. We were here for Ike and lost power for 11 days. The stores weren't even open for the first few days and after that they were running on generators and could only let so many people in the store at once. So you have to be prepared. Once you buy it you may as well eat it.

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ah, well you can't say you've tasted it until you've been here and had it...lol. It's not done 'right' any where else. ;) Oh yes, Dyan. Pinch the tails and suck the heads...lol

Minnie - posted on 10/08/2011

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The only time I had crawfish was when it was so overly seasoned in cajun spices I couldn't breathe. I kinda missed the taste of the actual meat.

Rosie - posted on 10/08/2011

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crawfish creep me out, lol. sucking out innerds gives me the willies! we've had this convo before...;P

Sherri - posted on 10/08/2011

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Now I love Lobster Sara but I truly feel crawfish is an acquired taste. I had never tried it till I was an adult and wow that is something you either like or don't and I will gladly say I don't.

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That's probably the only reason I'd want to live by the ocean, the availability of seafood. I would happily eat fish every single day fi I could afford it.

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I can get along fine without lobster. It's just an over-sized, under-seasoned crawfish. I'd eat crawfish everyday if I could. Live crawfish prices varies greatly depending on the weather.

Minnie - posted on 10/08/2011

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Probably five years ago lobster was really expensive and I was sooooo happy when it dropped down to $5 a pound because it is my FAVORITE food.



I think it helps we live so close to the ocean.

Rosie - posted on 10/08/2011

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:) it's super yummy sara! i'm not a huge lobster fan, i like snowcrab, or king crab better. don't get me wrong....i'll eat it willingly, lol, i just think crab has a better flavor. :) can't get any good crab or lobster here though. it's all gross frozen stuff, or if it IS alive, it's so expensive i don't want to try it. i'm afraid it'd be all sickly too, i live thousands of miles from any ocean, lol.

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Sherri, I'm happy to eat your portion as long as you share some of that super cheap lobster with me! 1 lobster around here will run me easily $12-$15 and that's for the small ones.

Sherri - posted on 10/08/2011

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@Dyan ya we just had a lobster get together at my brother's 2 weekends ago he ordered 15 lobsters and it cost $75. For all of them.

I can't believe $30 a lobster that makes my jaw drop, however, that is one of our biggest fishing trades living on the east coast. A whole bunch of people are lobster fisherman for a living.

As far a salmon you can all keep it I can't get it down. I wish I liked it but I just hate it.

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Yeah seafood isn't too bad here, bout the same price as beef. I get wild alaskan salmon for about $5 a pound.

Wow! That same salmon for me is over $10 a pound.

I'm coming to visit you - i love salmon!

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I honestly don't worry about it. I take precautions but otherwise, that's it. I simply can not afford organic produce or otherwise with very few exceptions. Make the organic the same price as the rest and you'll see sales skyrocket.

Rosie - posted on 10/08/2011

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lobster for $4.99 a lb?? holy shit sherri! i'm pretty sure we don't sell our lobster by the lb here, it' s just $30 per lobster.

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We eat a lot of shrimp. I can usually find it for $6/lb frozen at the grocery store. Fresh is a little more. I chose not to think about the fact that is comes from the gulf...but 'they' say it's safe. If I use it to make a stir-fry or stew, it will stretch for two meals for my little family.

Not too sure about salmon. We don't eat it that often, but I've been thinking about adding it to our diet. I hope I don't have sticker shock.

Sherri - posted on 10/07/2011

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You can get lobster on sale for $4.99 a pd., Haddock I find expensive at $6.99 a pd. which typically is out of our price range more than once or twice a year. because we need at least 2lbs to feed our family for a meal.

We tend to try and avoid red meat of any kind. So we really stick to chicken or pasta.

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Prawns are like $28 a kg and most fish is about $14 a kg. it's also $9 a piece for a pissy sized bit from the fish adn chip shop. crab is hell expensive too and i don't think i've ever even tried lobster/crayfish because of how expensiv e it is. i live inland though other parts of aus it might be cheaper.

Rosie - posted on 10/07/2011

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wild salmon here costs $11 a lb. sometimes you can get it cheap if it's on sale for like $8, but i'm not fond of it from the grocery store. my meat guy sells wild salmon as well and after trying his, i can't buy the stuff in the store again. it tastes rotten.

Minnie - posted on 10/07/2011

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Yeah seafood isn't too bad here, bout the same price as beef. I get wild alaskan salmon for about $5 a pound.

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We have lamb chops smothered in mustard, rosemary and garlic. I don't think lamb chops are any more expensive than anything else here. We eat pumpkin all the time steamed or baked with roast or just with normal meat. I make pumpkin and pine nut salad too. We hardly ever eat pork. Turkey doesn't come out til christmas and i've never tried deer or venison or any of that.

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My beef girl is getting into lamb. She should have some ready next year, so hopefully we'll be able to get some then.

We've really cut back on canned foods in the last year. I was hoping to go 100% can free, but we still need to buy canned tomatoes and sauce. Our tomato plants didn't produce well this year. We were only able to can two jars with what we had. Pitiful. Our other veggies did very well though, and we're keeping our fingers crossed for our winter crop.

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never had lamb, it doesn't appeal to me at all. well, i lie, now it does after hearing all the australian ladies creaming over it, lol. i had mutton once on a field trip to a farm, and it was disgusting. maybe that's why i think lamb will be gross.
my meat guy also sells lamb, i shoudl try it one of these days...just don't know how to prepare it cause wine is out of the question, gag.

Minnie - posted on 10/07/2011

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I wish I could get lamb but it's just a bit out of our price range. The local lamb is cheaper though, but still around $7-8/lb. In the store it's around 10 a pound. Would love to get bison too.



Honestly what I want is to find someone who hunts and pay them to get a deer and for the butchering fees. Maybe split it with someone else. Then stock a chest freezer with venison.



Pumpkin soup mmmmm. You can stick a whole large pumpkin in a roasting pan, dump some sage and spices in with some cream or milk and let it roast. Then you scrape everything away and puree it. I've got two sugar pumpkins sitting around waiting to be turned into soup.

Sherri - posted on 10/07/2011

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I will only eat canned peas hate hate hate frozen peas gag. We don't eat pumpkin either only pumpkin pie. Didn't know people really ate pumpkins.

Also lamb is not very common here as well. I would personally never eat it. You hear that people eat it but usually only on holidays,.

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I love frozen vegetables. Half the time I buy broccoli and it goes off so now I just have all that sort of thing snap frozen and buy potatoes and pumpkin, carrots, fruit and onions fresh and sometimes zucchini

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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of canned food. WAY too salty, and it just doesn't taste right. I'll buy canned tomatoes and tomato sauce in winter, though...it's much better than trying to make a sauce out of those sad, white-centred tomatoes that we get in the stores in February. And canned peas? Barf!!!

In winter, we rely pretty heavily on frozen veg. They've got some pretty nice mixes out there nowadays.

I'm excited -- last night we ordered 50 lbs of lamb from our farmer. We've really been getting more into lamb than beef lately -- it's just so full of flavour. A lamb burger on a toasted whole wheat kaiser, with a nice dollop of tzatziki? Oh yeah...that's what I'm talking about.

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And we never eat canned food. YUK. Unless it's canned pumpkin soup as I'm too lazy to make it myself for amount of times I actually want to eat it.

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To tell the truth, not really. If it tastes good I eat it. Life's short.

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i don't avoid canned tomatoes, or beans. that's pretty much all that i buy that is canned-and pumpkin around the holidays. oh (lol) and sweetened condensed milk and evaporated milk around the holidays as well. :)
other than that i like frozen or fresh veggies.
we buy grassfed beef, and milk. we don't buy any other of that. i will get regular butter and regular cheese, and throw in the grassfed or at least organic of those every now and then.
for chicken i can't afford pastured, so i get cage-free, no antibiotics. sometimes i'll get regular chicken to stretch my buck a bit more. i also buy 3 packs of eggs everytime i shop, one is organic, one is cagefree, one is regular.
i buy some organic veggies and fruit, sometimes not. depends on how much money we have for that week. although i have found that lettuce, grapes, carrots, and apples aren't all that much more expensive than regular.
i also garden,this year was my first "real" garden, and i'm still learning, but enjoyed it none the less. LOVE my own veggies! so do the boys!

if i have regular fruit or veggies i wash and wash, lol. although i know that sometimes that pesticides are actually GROWN into the flesh. gag.
oh, i try to get things with less sugar, and have stopped drinking pop, and drink a kefir smoothie everynight, and green tea every morning.

we do go out to eat sometimes twice a week, sometimes oncer every two weeks, depends on the mood. i dont' worry about it as much then, it's only a few times of being out, i don't think it will hurt them. they don't have pop anymore, except for when grandpa gives them some, or SOMETIMES when we have pizza.

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Of course, Krista.



We eat out about once a month at a restaurant Sherri. We're more lenient then. Usually the girls get shrimp and fries. Once a month's not going to kill them.



But since we're out with other families multiple times a week through the homeschool network we can't be so lenient then, and bring our own food. All of those instances add up.



We just had our once a month pizza dinner (homemade by the way, my husband makes awesom-er pizza than Bertucci's) two days ago and we're still paying for it. Blech. But the girls were begging, and they hadn't seen their dad in a month.

Sherri - posted on 10/03/2011

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It isn't a haul it is the time that wouldn't work for us. During the week I work until almost 5:30pm then I need to get the kids dinner, school routine etc. So just time frame it doesn't work for us.

I have a question. For those that eat so well at home all the time and have such strong opinions about food. Do you ever eat out at a restaurant? or allow you kids to eat else where that the rules may not be the same such as friends homes, school parties etc.

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Sherri, I think the plans are for next summer starting that Manchester will have a co-op. I'm looking forward to that.

The Hooksett Farmer's market is Wednesdays from 4-7p.m. But that might be a haul for you.

Making everything from scratch and trying our best to get it local does take more time, but we're so used to it now. And I try to get most of it on the same day, like milk and eggs on Friday.

I cannot afford grassfed and pastured meat though so I definitely worry about that.

We all do the best we can. It sucks sometimes, because some people in the 'circle' I run in have SUCH a disconnect regarding life perspectives. One mother is like you HAVE to feed your children grassfed beef or else! Your husband should take a second job if he REALLY cares about his children! (clearly it doesn't matter to the stability of the family whether parents are burnt out or not). And she has noooooo clue whatsoever that for some people, $6 a pound for beef and ONLY if you buy a half cow at $1300 is too much.

I just roll my eyes.

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We aren't as diligent as Lisa when it comes to food, but we try. It's tricky, because as a busy working mom, sometimes I'm just too damned tired to make stuff from scratch. So there's the odd meal from a box.

But for the MOST part, we eat meat from the farmer a few miles down the road. (His lamb is my new religion, it's that freaking good.) We get local fish in bulk delivered from this guy who buys from all the fishermen. His wife also makes fishcakes and sells them, and we've bought them on many an occasion, particularly as you can cook them from frozen. So they're great on those "Oh shit, I forgot to thaw something out for supper" nights.

None of the milk in NS comes from hormone-injected cows. All of our dairies are cooperative dairies run by a bunch of individual dairy farms.

In the summer, our produce comes from my MIL's garden, with the exception of tropical stuff like bananas and citrus fruits. In winter, we buy from the grocery store.

So, we could be doing better, but we could be doing worse.

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I do not know how you have time to do all that Lisa. Although I commend you for doing so.

All the local stinkin farmers markets we can't attend because they are during the week during business hours.

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On the same note...why do baggers think it's ok to put raw meat with fresh fruit? WTH? It's happened to us a several times at our local store so we watch closely (as closely as we can with an infant and toddler). I'm actually considering talking to the manager. I'm not usually the type to complain, but I'm a freak when it comes to food safety.

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The cause will, I can garentee you, will be improper food handling. Someone, somewhere along the line din't do something simple like wash their hands and they contaminated the food. Listeria is (usually) found in Soft cheeses, unpasteurised milk, ready-to-eat deli meats.

http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/cons...

Wash Wash WASH your food when you bring it home. Yes you can't control what happens before you get it, but you can do your best to eliminate it when you get it home.

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Sorry, that's supposed to be can't lol



You CAN'T control how your food is handled before it gets to you.





You mean you can't grow all your own food?! Just kidding...

Sherri - posted on 10/02/2011

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You can control how it is handled before it gets to you.... How do you do that Sara if you buy from the grocery store because you have no other option??

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At this moment they're not sure where the listeria came from (unless there's been an update). If you bring in a tainted peice of fruit that you eat without cooking then what can you do? Rinsing it may help a little, but I'm not sure that that's 100% effective. You can control how your food is handled before it gets to you.

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