Pageant Moms

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010 ( 43 moms have responded )

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So what do we think about pageant moms? Are they helping or hindering their children? Check out TLC's Toddlers and Tiaras
http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/toddlers...

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Stephanie - posted on 04/16/2012

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Because one mom has a temper tantrum you want to punch all of them in the face? You are against their parenting choices and think what they are doing in wrong, yet they aren't teaching their kids to be violent against others because they don't agree with that person. Are you?

Stifler's - posted on 10/03/2010

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Eugh I think it's the parents wanting to live vicariously through their child personally.

Jennifer - posted on 10/02/2010

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Here in the UK beauty pageants for children aren't very common but their numbers are rising and there was a programme on recently called Baby Beauty Queens. I think tbh most of the children are pushed into it which is wrong but also why would you want to dress your 5 year old like a woman?!? It's not a prodcutvie thing to do it only exaggerates to them that they have to have good looks in order to suceed and I guess a lot of them will probably end up with psychological issues or eating disorders later on as a result.

Jennifer - posted on 10/02/2010

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I think the moms that push the kids into it are terrible and made the mistake of saying so when we were at a friends house.
She then informed me that she was in pageants from 6mo.s to 16 yr.s and is such a better person for it.
Talk about putting your foot in your mouth!
Oops!

Barb - posted on 09/21/2010

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and yes!! i LOVE Little Miss Sunshine.. It was odd at times but that last scene was so laugh out loud perfect.. omg where is your grandpa?! in the trunk" and no one thought that odd? hahahahaha

Barb - posted on 09/21/2010

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I watched that Toddlers and Tiara's once, i guess for morbid curiosity. They were showing 3 families.
1 was a little boy, 18 months to 2 years, he had no clue what was going on, it was obvious mom had an obsession issue and poor Dad could do nothing right.

2 was a spoiled little brat girl who hated it and would only perform when her mother would give her presents. She of course caught onto this and said "i won't do it until i have my present" and was obviously working her mom but that was fair, because mom was working her too.

3 was, what i think, it really should be about. Mom had no interest in being a pageant mom but her 4 or 5 year old daughter really did and was really excited about it and couldn't understand why moms would make their kids do it if they didn't like it. i think she actually said "why is that mom making her little girl cry, she doesn't want to do it, doesn't her mom know that?" or something along those lines. The girl was smart, articulate and viewed it as a competition much like an equestrian event. And it really gave her some bonding time with her mom that she also enjoyed, road trips with mom and she would try to help other girls and give them tips and was just a well rounded nice little girl who really really wanted to do this.
I don't think i would have been able to tell her no if she would have been my daughter as determined as she was.

I am curious however, as many moms that hate the pageant stuff let their kids have/buy/use/enjoy/emulate Hannah Montana stuff.

Mylene - posted on 09/20/2010

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Can't even watch the commercials for the show, they make me sick.

Ashley=) - posted on 09/20/2010

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With everything you have moms who are with it and moms who are crazies lol.Its not for me not all.Very content in how wonder, intelligent and beautiful my girls are..i dont want to prove it to anyone.

Caitlin - posted on 09/19/2010

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I've never watched the show.. just the ads for it are sickening. Can't we all be content knowing our kids are the cutest things in the world in OUR eyes, why do we have to prove it to everyone else?!?

It's damaging to the kid in my opinion,and not fair to put them through all that when they are so young and impresionable. My step sister had her daughter doing modeling for catalogues (her daughter is GORGEOUS) but she said she didn't like it, so she stopped. After all it was her daughter that wanted to do it in the first place, and her daughter was the one that wanted to stop.

Laurie - posted on 09/19/2010

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i am a pageant mom and grammie

Amber - posted on 06/06/2010

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I have never watched any of these shows, and I find them pretty over the top and rididulous. Not only do the moms seem pushy and unconcerned with their child's needs (such as sleep, regular play time, and normal childhood friends), but the children seem over indulged and bratty.
I don't want my child to think that looks are everything, and I would never allow my child to yell at me or boss me around. It's just a way for mothers who couldn't be in pageants to live vicariously through their daughters.

Alison - posted on 06/06/2010

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I don't think these parents are helping to raise productive people because of the values they promote, but I don't think they're all as bad as the extreme examples that we see on TV. If the child wants to do it and it doesn't take up too much of their time then it's just like any other hobby. If a large portion of the whole families time and money is wasted on pageants then it's becomes ridiculous. I get the impression that you need to devote large amounts of time and money to them in order to win. The girls from normal families probably never win anything and give it up after a while. They will probably grow up to be a lot more well adjusted because of it.

. - posted on 06/05/2010

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The only thing we have thats close to that is the Miss New Zealand's (theres three of them) contests. We don't have baby pagents. We have catalogues but it's only babies/toddlers from Auckland who are in them, and its usually photographers etc own kids or friends of theirs kids. Or we have the Huggies/Treasures baby comps.

Jennifer - posted on 06/05/2010

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Pageants aren't commonplace in the UK and after watching a programme about them to be honest I think these mums are too pushy for their own good and need to let their children be children and overall get a life!

Jaime - posted on 06/04/2010

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hehe Lisa, now I want to watch the movie but I don't have my dvd player hooked up!...it really is one of the best movies ever!

*Lisa* - posted on 06/04/2010

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'And where is your grandfather little girl?' 'In the trunk of our car'... haha
Watch it Dana! It's a bit morbid at first but soooo good!

Jaime - posted on 06/04/2010

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It's super-freaky! LOL

Jocelyn - posted on 06/04/2010

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Lmao! That's a great movie! Dana you HAVE to watch it :D

Jaime - posted on 06/04/2010

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Oh, it's worth the watch Dana!

Chatty - posted on 06/04/2010

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I've never seen it....now I wanna watch the whole thing!

Alison - posted on 06/04/2010

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That's what happens when the moms don't get involved! :P

Cynthia - posted on 06/04/2010

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I love that movie too!!

*Lisa* - posted on 06/04/2010

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Hah it was so surprising hey! I totally did not see it coming! (that she would do a strip tease hehe)

Jaime - posted on 06/04/2010

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I own that movie Lisa, and I LOVE it! The ending was the best part! LOL

*Lisa* - posted on 06/04/2010

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*Lisa* - posted on 06/04/2010

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Pageants UGH. Anyone seen 'Little Miss Sunshine'? Hilarious pageant show ending!

Jaime - posted on 06/04/2010

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April, there's probably a reason you don't remember the name of the less invasive pageant...it's likely not as popular because the focus isn't about outer beauty. That said, I still think pageants send the wrong message...kids don't have to be beauty queens to count in this world or to make a difference.



I agree that the show 'Toddlers & Tiaras' likely showcases the extreme side of pageantry, but it's still the more commonly sought after in the pageant world. I couldn't believe what I was hearing when one mom said she was upset that her daughter didn't win pageant queen--only princess--so she stormed out, dropped the tiara in the parking lot and drove over it---WTF?



Just makes me want to punch them all in the face.

April - posted on 06/04/2010

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they do have pageants for children who don't want to wear make up or fake teeth, etc... I forget what this kind of pageant is called, but if i had a daughter, i wouldn't mind her being in this kind of pageant!

As for the other kind of pageant...some have more rigid competition rules than others. If my daughter really wanted to be in pageants, I'd pick and choose which ones I'd be okay with her entering (some DO have dress code rules!).

LaCi - posted on 06/03/2010

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Meh. I think the parents they show are the top of the extreme, pageant obsessed moms (and dads).I've considered putting my son in pageants. I thought about trying to get him into kiddo modeling for catalogs and such. I wouldn't spray chemicals on him (or my daughter if I had one) or cover him in ridiculous amounts of makeup, or make him dress in a sexual way. Most pageants I've seen are of little girls who look like they've just been playing dress up, and little boys who wear little tuxedos.

Chatty - posted on 06/03/2010

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I don't care if my daughter wanted to do it.....NO WAY, not until she was old enough to make those decisions for herself! It's disgusting to dress lil' girls up with fake eyelashes, teeth, spray tans, make-up that would put a drag queen to shame....it's absolutely DISGUSTING!

Jaime - posted on 06/03/2010

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Adult pageants are no better than a stripper at a night club...there's slightly less nudity and not as many parlour tricks but it's much the same hyper-sexualized environment. The only real difference is the audience.

Ashley - posted on 06/03/2010

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I watch the show...some of the parents I've seen there do it because their kids want to do it. One even had her daughter "retire" since she wasn't having fun. Others...are well, gross. There was one mom who said one of her daughters wasn't as pretty as the other so that's why she hardly won. :(
Another thing that was nuts was the "no thong" rule. Not because a young child in a thing was gross, but because it's hard to have the body to pull it off!
I would never do it unless my child wanted to.

Alison - posted on 06/03/2010

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I think it is totally weird, but if you have beauty pageants for adults, you are bound to have them for children (how else are they gonna train to become Miss Universe?).

I think like anything, it is dangerous to make generalizations. Some of the families seem to handle it very well (two out of three or last night's families seemed totally grounded). Some are totally messed up. But that doesn't make the whole thing immoral.

Personally, I would never consider competing with my girls.

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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I completely agrre with you all- it's awful. The worste is the overt sexuality of the whole thing. What a great thing to drill into impressionable young minds- sex sells. Ewwwwww.

Jaime - posted on 06/03/2010

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Plucking/shaving eyebrows, shaving legs, spray tanning, highlights, hair extensions, revealing costumes, seductive dance moves, bribery...Is it a pageant or a strip tease? I mean seriously...we have enough trouble getting teenagers to recognize their self-worth and independence no matter what physical features they have...so why do we spend so much time when they're younger trying to mold them into our image if we truly want what's best for them? I'm sure all of these kids will tell me they love pageants...but then again, they don't know any different and they're not being parented, they're being managed and displayed---gross!

Jaime - posted on 06/03/2010

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I love how every single parent in these videos claims not to be a 'stage parent'...ya, and water isn't wet you retards!

Tania - posted on 06/03/2010

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An older teen....ok. They most likey want to do it but a little one....NO WAY. Spray tanning. hair extentions, make up? UGH. Oh and the show on TLC I saw a little 8 or 9 years old drinking coffee.

Those mothers just let those girls walk all over them. I can't imagine my child talking to me that way.

Chatty - posted on 06/03/2010

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Here's a link for TEEN pageants in Canada but I couldn't find any for babies or toddlers.....only in the US and overseas! Thank goodness! Another reason I'm proud to be Canadian! LOL!

http://pageantcenter.com/pageantsopening...

Chatty - posted on 06/03/2010

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Hmmm......I wonder about that Tania.....google here I come!

Tania - posted on 06/03/2010

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I agree with the above posts and thank goodness they don't haver those events in Canada as far as I know.

Lyndsay - posted on 06/03/2010

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I agree with Dana, the parents are selfish! I'm all for pageants if the child is old enough to express interest in it for him or herself, but to shove your child into something YOU enjoy simply for the fact that YOU want them to do it is just wrong. No child at that age wants to be in a pageant, lets be honest. What toddler really wants to have their eyebrows tweezed, makeup put on, and be forced to strut back and forth on the stage for hours at a time? They are only doing it to please their parents, which is something that toddlers do. It has nothing to do with their own desire, and personally I think its absolutely disgusting. Not only that, but the parents are not teaching their children anything about positive self-image... what they are teaching them is that they have to be made-up and fake in order to be liked and accepted.

Chatty - posted on 06/03/2010

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I think it's DISGUSTING! It's extreme and I think the mother's are selfish and horrible!

Cynthia - posted on 06/03/2010

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UGH I hate that show and won't watch it. I think it's absolutely ridiculous the length those women go to. I would NEVER put my daughter in a pageant (unless she was a teenager and wanted to). I think it's horrible to dress those girls up like that, put gallons of makeup on them, tan them, do all that crap to their hair, force them to practice a routine, etc etc.

I think it's the moms that are living out their dreams through their daughters, and it sickens me. I think the girls look like little sluts, and it's horrific. Wait til your daughter is old enough to make up her own mind on the subject.