why do people judge?

Shannon - posted on 06/16/2011 ( 92 moms have responded )

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i am pregnant with my third child and i have some firm beliefs and firm on my ways. like with my pregnancy i believe that if everything is healthy that its ok to get your membranes stripped and to get induced after you pass the safe zone in pregnancy, and with breastfeeding that it shouldnt be ok after the child is old enough to use a sippy cup, and i dont believe mother should be given the right to abortion or anything like that no matter what the circumstances.


thats just a few but i have noticed that alot of moms on here think they have the right to judge and to bash it is ridicules and when they get put into place with an opinion they dont agree with they report it and such its like they can dish it but cant handle it.

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Jamie - posted on 12/09/2011

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people judge because they get defensive of their own parenting choices.

I am a firm believer that everyone wants what is best for their child. If you are doing something different than them that (to them) is like saying you are doing it wrong. Even if you don't think that.
So, they get defensive and need to attack you.

That is the only thing I think it could be. There is no other reason people need to judge other people. EVER....there are times when action needs to take place, not judgement. Like in child abuse cases.

but to sit and judge another persons parenting choices (like bottle vs breast) is just stupid. Moms need to just need to leave other moms alone and accept that there is more than one way to skin a cat.

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 12/05/2011

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Marina from that Forum we're both on is a mod there. She made it closed because someone was getting really nasty and calling moms who use formual stupid, lazy and uneducated.

Maree - posted on 12/05/2011

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na i don't know what you mean...i'm just being a smart ass..sorry

Johnny - posted on 12/05/2011

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hopefully the mods in there are active and prepared for you. new moms can be a bit emotional and vulnerable as we all know....

Johnny - posted on 12/05/2011

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hmm... you sound like you might know her though... that's interesting.

Maree - posted on 12/05/2011

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not sure what infants and newborns is...but i wouldn't mind having a read

Maree - posted on 12/05/2011

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yeah that's exactly what i meant johnny...lol... and no i didn't go by k but i'm assuming you have a reason for saying that....must have been a rotten bitch.lol

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 12/05/2011

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So Kel, we should basically just set our kids up for failure and never encourage them so they turn out to be miserable jaded teenagers. LOVELY IDEA!



Or are you saying that we should just blame the victims of bullying and their parents because if they hadn't been loving emotionally available moms and dad then their kids wouldn't've been picked on?



Great idea. Lovely. Hope your kids have good medical insurance to cover the anti depressants and the therapist bills.



ETA: Johnny! I didn't think of that! But she does remind me of that woman from Infants and newborns

Johnny - posted on 12/05/2011

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Oh, and by the way, did you used to just go by "K"?

Johnny - posted on 12/05/2011

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I think what you meant Kel is, "the sooner people accept that what *I* say and believe about them is correct, the better off we will be."

Maree - posted on 12/05/2011

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Yes...the sooner people stop being so sensitive and start either accepting that maybe,just maybe they are wrong or don't worry about what other people say...the better off we will be.
people are so ridiculously overly sensitive and it's very annoying. Grow up and stop being babies,teach your kids to be tough and accept criticism....you are doing them a disservice and setting them up for a shitty life by trying to protect them from everything. They WILL be criticized in life,but they need to learn to take the criticism,learn from it and do better if necessary,not be told that everything they do is wonderful,every choice they make is brilliant and they need not even try to better themselves...

Rachael - posted on 12/03/2011

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everyone make judgement. it's impossible to be completely non judgmental. as long as you are not attacking the person because of their opinions i don't see a problem with it

♥♪Megan♫♥ - posted on 11/29/2011

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Well I do believe that mom's should be given the right to an abortion in serious situations or in cases of rape and incest. I do believe that you should be able to breastfeed as long as you and the child are comfortable.

You get upset about women judging then turn around and do the same thing. Get off your high horse.

Eron - posted on 11/26/2011

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just so im clear...your question is why do people judge? then you go on to judge mothers that breastfeed when the the child can use a sippy cup - because in your judgement thats wrong...and then you judge women that have abortions - because in your judgement no matter what the circumstances thats wrong + then you judge its ok to "get your membranes stripped" (presumably because thats something you've had done)

maybe the question you should have asked was, other than my very judgemental self, why do people judge?

Maree - posted on 11/26/2011

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True...just found it to be an interesting study,something a little different to the norm and it really made me think !!!

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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interesting kel. but for me it makes more sense that the women are depressed because they feel they are failing at mothering. that we can't even do the one thing that we are designed to do. of course that's just my experience though, not the gospel, lol.

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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i think you just hit on a key point that is my one wish to come out of this conversation. we all react to everything differently, our life experiences are different, and we are all DIFFERENT. :) i can't figure out how someone could enjoy breastfeeding because of my experience with it, but that doesn't mean i don't respect their need or want to do it, and to enjoy it. i guess i just expect the same in return, you may not understand it, but respecting it is important. :)

Maree - posted on 11/26/2011

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Yeah i had rotten babies too that screamed with reflux...day and night !!!! Don't really know if breast feeding made me feel better or worse...I guess it could be something that triggers depression but not breast feeding definately could trigger it as well (not that i had depression but felt pretty awful for quite a while) Actually i read a study recently that looked at how "not bf-ing" mimics the death of a baby and therefore can trigger postnatal depression. I found this a real eye opener,what a fantastic read. It was saying that halting the natural flow of milk generally only happened years ago if your baby died after birth then of course many women became depressed. They are saying that if you stop the milk from coming in at all or stop it soon after birth,your body believes there has been a loss and the mourning process begins due to the chemicals released. It makes a lot of sense and is maybe part of the reason that PND is more common in mothers who bottle feed. I think it's great cause if more people know about this then maybe they can be aware and get help faster.

I know if i had given up on bf-ing then i absolutely would have become depressed because i so desperately wanted to bf......but i also can see that i may have been down due to being up feeding all the time and having sore,bleeding nipples and mastitis.

Thank you for your great points,i really do appreciate them and it definately gives me something to think about...can't say i will ever be "pro bottle" and i still do believe way too many people make selfish decisions with bf-ing and with other parenting choices but i can see your points and have enjoyed reading them.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/26/2011

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Lol I had some VERY violent thoughts towards both babies. Short tempered when I'm tired lol so months I was so tired I was just always thinking of horrid things. I went on meds with Fierna because I was getting so mad I was squeezing her too much as she screamed for hours and I felt like a failure" for me though, breastfeeding helped my depression, it didn't make it worse. It was always the only time it all felt right.

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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i was young, single, had to go back to work in two weeks, no help at all from "daddy -dearest" financially either. my mother breastfed me, but formula fed my brother who is 8 years younger than me, so formula is normal to me as well. it was a big scary leap for me to try to bf-and i only did it out of guilt i felt from "breast is best" campaign. my life definitely wasn't set up for successful bf. i could've tried with my last two, but i wanted my husband to help more than anything in the world, since i NEVER had that option with my oldest. i also was terrified of going into that much of a depression again, and wasn't willing to risk it. i came close to shaking my oldest son and while that may be something some of you don't understand, it's not really necessary for you to. all i knew was that i wasn't going to put myself in that position again-EVER.

Maree - posted on 11/26/2011

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of course breast feeding shouldn't be forced on people...I know it's a choice. I don't like people choosing to bottle feed but i still realize that it is their choice and i can't change that....i just wish more people would breast feed instead of bottle feed.

I was manhandled in the hospital with both my babies. It didn't really bother me though,whether i was manhandled or not,i was still going to breast feed. I hate the thought that nurses doing that to women causes them to hate breast feeding so much that they choose to stop...personally i would never let anyone or anything stop me...but obviously i feel this way because i am very "anti formula"...if someone is not really one way or the other then i guess it doesn't really matter too much to them.. I still think the nurses should be a little more respectful of womens bodies and be helpful but not pushy.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/26/2011

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That sounds awful. Yeah my experience was a lot different. I was given free formula at the hospital, even though I said I wasn't going to use it they said' well you get it anyways and it's good to have it just in case. So I wondered if I MIT need it? So I took it. I also got a free can in the mail"..not sure why. Also got tons and tons of coupons for money off formula. My dr always asked, 'what formula are you using?'she never remembered I was nursing.
I never really felt breastmilk was 'better' I was raised thinking breastfeeding is -just what you do- and formula was used for our foster babies so in my mind formula wasn't an option for a mom" moms fed breast, others fed formula. Lol I never really knew much before Eric was born I just figured breast is what you do and it would be natural.
Thankfully I had enough help cuz it wasn't easy but I never expected it to be easy lol pregnancy labor and birth were hard! I figured why would bf be any easier.
Sorry for the tangent but I guess my life just set it up nicely for me to be happy and successful nursing.

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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honestly lauralei, they didn't demonize formula, and they weren't crazy nazi's about bf. some people make it seem like hospitals are there with their formula samples (mine never were...would've like them) and WIC is there waiting to give you mountains of formula, when MY experience in both cases was the opposite. i never received formula from the hospital-other than the obvious to feed my kid, and they HEAVILY pushed bf on me. WIC like i said, never once said anything about formula to me, bf was always what was discussed.
i think when women go through the experience of months of WIC telling you breast is best, i took parenting classes before my first one, and obviously bf was tauted as a magic elixer, and then the hospital forcing my kid on my boob the second he came out of me, and manhandling me for the whole two days we were there, and practically killing me with their eyes that i was uncomfortable with bf and asked for formula.

i hated it, EVERYTHING about it, and yet i was made to feel like a horrible mother because i chose formula. i admit a lot of the harsh feelings and depression i put on myself, but if bf wasn't put on this pedestal, and was just made NORMAL, instead of better, i can guarantee a ton of women wouldn't give up as "easily" (if you can call it that, cause it sure as hell wasn't easy for me) because they were literally killing themselves mentally doing it.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/26/2011

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Well as a bf peer counselor for my county I can assure you I'm being taught to never push moms into bf. I'm supposed to support the mom first and foremost. Help her, inform her, but never undermine or force or put her down for any decision.
I'm sorry your wic failed you, it's not right! They shouldn't be demonizing formula.

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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when i was on WIC, formula wasn't pushed on me. breastfeeding was...feeding into my depression further that i hated everything about breastfeeding. you feel even worse.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/26/2011

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Moms who have used formula are not the enemy.

The enemy is the society that coerced moms into using formula when they wouldn't have used it if they had full knowledge or facts.

The issue I think does come down to the sexualization of breasts. If no one saw breasts as sex toys then far more moms would use them as baby feeders.

It sure would help if America quit having commercials on tv advertising how great formula is, and free samples in the mail and free samples from the hispital.

I don't think wic is the problem, once a mom needs formula she and her baby deserve some help if they're making low income.

Besides, I really think if every mom knew the full truths about all things related to breast vs formula there would be far less formula users and those who do use formula would be 'justified' as they know what's best for them and their baby and their family and they made an educated informed decision

Krista - posted on 11/26/2011

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Shit. I had an entire post done up and COM ate it.

Basically, what I wanted to say was that "normalizing" it is something that is going to take a LONG time. Keep in mind, that the pendulum swing back towards breastfeeding really only started back up in the 1990's.

It's not just about BFing, it also involves North America's weird hang-up about nudity, and its utter inability to view nudity as anything but sexual.

So, in order to completely normalize breastfeeding, it's going to require a major sea change in how the female body is viewed in our society. And that is certainly not going to happen overnight. It's starting -- we've made fantastic strides just in the last 5 years, I would say. But it's still going to take time.

But in the meantime, trying to make formula-feeding mothers feel like shit? NOT helpful. Not helpful at all.

Rosie - posted on 11/26/2011

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kel, this study used by the AAP to show breastfed infants have less cases of neonatal death uses deaths caused by injury to show that breastfeeding is better. please explain how injuries have anything to do with formula?http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/co...

the studies used to "prove" bf children have less upper respiratory illness didn't take into account socio-economic status, whether the children were exposed to smoke, daycare, etc. when new studies were done in the 90's to correct that, there were no statistical differences found for upper respiratory illnesses. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...



studies used to "prove" a decreased risk of juvenile diabetes, and of course demonize formula, use babies from peru, and chile, and only a third of these studies actually found results from children exposed to food early on including cows milk. infant formula wasn't even considered. http://cel.webofknowledge.com/InboundSer...



there are "risks" in everything we do everyday. driving your kid around in a car risks their life statistically WAAAAAAAAAY more than formula feeding ever could-yet here we are, judging people you dont' know for doing something that has less risk than something you do everyday. it makes no sense to me.

Maree - posted on 11/25/2011

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I just feel that trying to be supportive hasn't helped,the free services the country has to offer hasn't helped....normalising breast feeding hasn't helped. I'm at a loss now as to what professionals can do to convince people to try harder,let alone me !!!

So I just get frustrated and vent instead,of course that won't work..I wouldn't expect it to but i am so bloody frustrated at people in general,not just at how they feed their babies but at the inability people seem to have to do their jobs right. Their standards are so low,people are getting more and more useless by the day because no one takes accountability for anything anymore.

It is ALWAYS someone elses fault and trying to convince them otherwise,really is a waste of time. But i guess that is another topic isn't it....i really think it does start somewhere and teaching people from an early age that they can give up....well it really is stupid and creating a massive problem for the future.

Teresa - posted on 11/25/2011

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My point is.... you are anti formula feeding, but w/ your approach... you won't change the mind of formula feeders. IF that is truly what you would like (for there to be more breastfeeders) you would change your approach. Bashing formula feeders won't accomplish anything.... except letting you slam perfectly good human beings.... simply for doing something you disagree w/....

I don't know. I guess I figured someone as extremely probreastfeeding as you seem to be would actually want to reduce the amount of formula feeders... That can't be accomplished by bashing.

Whatever though. You're certainly free to keep posting as you have been. Just thought I'd point out that if another breastfeeding fan is turned off by your approach.... you have no chance of 'winning over' any formula feeders.

Maree - posted on 11/25/2011

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Well I guess that's what happens in a debating forum.

People say what they believe to be true and challenge others to do the same. It of course annoys people when they think you're talking crap. I think some people are wrong and they think i am wrong so I will have to agree to disagree as if i say what i think then i will get my posts deleted for apparent abuse or something.

I think though,that someones feelings getting hurt should not be a reason that my posts get deleted. The fact that all posts must be "positive " is crazy...why must they be positive when i think they are wrong and am getting my point across as are other people.

Not necessarily on this particular community but on others,as soon as someone gets their feelings hurt they report you and then you're told to keep ALL comments positive. I don't believe there is anything positive i can say about bottle feeding or be supportive of it so i guess i need to not say what i think at all...that way everyone is happy...

I am hoping that another debate comes up on this topic and people that are very against bottle feeding will comment on it.(although they probably won't as they are not allowed to say what they really feel ) I have seen some on here but they are very old and locked long ago.

I would love to see studies that say that bf-ing is bad as you say there is many of...Honestly,I'm not being a smart ass,I am very interested to see what they have to say because i believe that breast feeding has many more benefits than what you say it has...as i said,i believe in the studies and i don't think they are crappily controlled. Maybe i have that opinion because that's what i was raised to believe...

I will try find some studies and educate myself some more as up until now i have believed the only benefits to formula was one of convenience (dad helping etc) and as something that is necessary to keep babies alive that are in desperate need(adopted babies and women on medication that interferes with the breast milk).

If i find a decent amount of studies that say more than that...I will publicly appologize for my comments,till then in my opinion,bf or ff is usually a choice...not something that is necessary which is why i have made comments about it being a selfish choice.

Sorry to be annoying you Teresa but i obviously have very strong views on this and you don't need to read my posts if you don't want to,it makes me feel better to get my thoughts out whether they are read or not...releases a little frustration rather than saying it straight to peoples faces which is a lot worse than on here to strangers who i don't care about at all.

Teresa - posted on 11/25/2011

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I'm a huge fan of breastfeeding, nursed twins for 15 months and my son for 3.25 years, and can't understand why anyone would CHOOSE formula feeding w/out ever attempting to breastfeed. But Kel, your posts on this subject here are even annoying me.....

Rosie - posted on 11/25/2011

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well.....the only things that have truly been proven benefits of breastfeeding are fewer ear infections, and gastro problems. the latter being more of a problem in countries that don't have good water. the rest is just hearsay based off of crappily controlled studies, or there's multiple studies that say opposite things, but only the one that says something good about breastfeeding is used...
now i'm fully aware that breastfeeding is better. but you are making it seem like formula fed babies are going to start dropping off like flies...which simply isn't true.
i'd also like to point out that you may not understand why some people choose not to breastfeed, but to that i say you obviously havn't had any issues that some of these women have, or their mindset. you don't know if they've been molested and the thought of a baby suckling makes them physically ill, or if they "only tried for a week" but got turned on by their child suckling, and had to stop, or if they work and had to go back to work in two weeks, or simply knew that they didn't have the ability to get up every hour being the ONLY one giving nourishment to the child, or the father wanted to be a part of that. or that the thought of trying to breastfeed again gives them so much PPD that they think about shaking their kid. you SIMPLY DON'T KNOW. and luckily you don't need to, get over yourself and realize people are different. not everybody is capable of doing something the next person does.

Maree - posted on 11/24/2011

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and to respond to Laurelai, there is way too much bad advice which is a huge part of the problem. I am smart enough to not believe it but lots of people do and i guess if they are not passionate about this topic then they think it is no big deal...i find that sad but i don't believe it is possible to change peoples thoughts. Of course they will believe a doctor over some nobody.. but unfortunately the doctors are flat out WRONG (and yes that is coming straight from the mouth of a nobody)

Maree - posted on 11/24/2011

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ok maybe comparing to smoking is a little harsh so i'll compare it to take away food. If a mum says " I can't cook so I'm giving my child take away every day" there would be all sorts of nasty comments posted. They would say "you should try harder to cook"...some people ACTUALLY CAN'T (very few) but most can and should...mostly I can't stand the ones that say "I tried to cook but it didn't work out so well and it doesn't suit my lifestyle,or my baby likes take away and i don't want her to starve so for the next 12 months she is having mcdonalds 8 times a day" (obviously take away is not actually what i'm talking about) but that really is selfish.

I know it is still their choice but trying to breast feed (or cook) for a week then saying it is too hard or i was unhappy doing it,really is a pretty poor excuse and i do think many women use it as an excuse as it is very much accepted...at least where I am from.

People who feed their kids up on take away foods are frowned apon...these kids probably won't become obese and may not ever get sick...but it doesn't make it right.

I think their should be more support for breast feeding (although i never had a problem getting support,I did have a "never give up attitude though"and would have kept going with or without support which actually is kinda what happened to me anyway)

I simply have a problem when i personally believe that certain women make excuses...I guess i could be wrong about some of them but unfortunately if there are masses of people all saying the same thing and seem to be behaving in the same way then what am i to think???

When i see all the housing commission scum round the area that i live...they look like crap,their kids have rats tails,their homes are falling to pieces and they don't work...well sorry but i have an opinion about them!!! and it isn't a good one..
Somewhere within that group is a few that are really trying to do better but i still look at them as scum. Unfortunately people will be judged wrongly occasionally which is why i say i am sorry to make comments about the 1 ti 3% who can't breast feed.

Krista - posted on 11/24/2011

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Yeah, your "destructive cycle" theory doesn't hold water, Kel.

In the 1970's, when I was born, almost every single mother out there bottle-fed. It's what they were told to do.

My mom bottle fed both my sister and myself. My sister breast-fed both of her boys.

I breast-fed my son as much as I could, until my meager supply gave out. (I've had a breast reduction, and so wasn't able to BF exclusively.)

And I know you're passionate about breastfeeding, and that's great. BUT, as one of those mothers who HAD to use formula, and who was sad about not being able to BF, I don't really appreciate you demonizing formula and going on about how "bad" and risky it is, or comparing it to smoking. I felt awful enough when I had to wean, without having people like you trying to make me feel like I was giving my kid rat poison. No, it's not as healthy as breast-milk. We all know that. But it certainly managed to keep my son alive and healthy and growing quite nicely, thank you very much.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/24/2011

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Yeah my daughters dr also suggested switching to formula because of reflux. Thankfully I was smart enough to know better but I cringe to think if another mom needlessly quit bf because of bad advise like that.

Maree - posted on 11/23/2011

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Most people i know...it's the complete opposite. The bottle fed ones have the asthma and allergies and breast fed ones don't (all accept for 1 that i know). I believe in most of the studies done on breast v bottle and going by people i know i would say bottle feeding is bad. But all i can comment on is what i have experienced,thats why i said in my other post that i am aware that not every bottle fed child is sickly. I am one of 5 children. I was BF for 2 years and the other 4,not at all. Every one of them have asthma except me. My oldest brothers 2 girls were not bf and both have asthma and multiple food allergies. One of the others also not bf,he developed Asthma very early. My sister bf all her boys (3 of them),no problems there,another brother...his boy was bf for 3 years,also no problems and i bf both of mine that also have no problems.

Yes it is only my personal story but i can't help but think when there are so many studies that have been going around year after year...(.I won't go into all that they talk about as i have already written too much)I think...Why do people still say they are wrong ???

In my opinion it is kind of like saying...smoking is ok cause i didn't get cancer or any other smoking related illness. Obviously there are huge risks with smoking but not everyone is going to get sick from it...doesn't make it good !!!

The difference is that society accepts formula as a good choice so it makes it so easy to make the choice to use it. If you want to know that formula is bad,you have to research which most probably don't bother doing so they plod along believing they have made a good choice.

The way i look at it,if a bf child gets sick a lot... i dread to think how sick they would be on a bottle !!! (after all,there are a lot of immunity benefits in breast feeding)

my daughters paediatrician said to me when my daughter had terrible reflux and colic...."you can put her on a special formula but if she has problems and you are breast feeding,then putting her on any kind of formula is setting yourself up for bigger problems"

personally i wouldn't take the risk with my childs health but i know i have no say in what others do,it just disappoints me,that's all.

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it rings true for and damo. i was fed for a year and i never get sick. damo was bottle fed and always gets sick. it's not the same for everyone.

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/23/2011

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Yup. Small circle evidence never really shows much anyways. My hubby was nursed 2 years, myself only 9-12 months and yet image a stellar immune system and he has allergies and gets hit hard every few months with a bug. He also has acid reflux which along with his lactose sensitivity caused an ulcer. Me, never had any digestive issues.
It simply doesn't do any good to look on the small scale. Because you won't find any solid evidence except that there's many things that go into a healthy or sickly person. Breastmilk is better then formula atkeeping humans healthy but a myriad of other things can change the balance to favor a formula fed human.

No hard and fast rules I say.
Breastfeed if you can, if not, live a good healthy safe life and odds are your kid will be fine

Teresa - posted on 11/23/2011

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Destructive cycle? Hey, I married a bottle fed man and he fully supported me breastfeeding our twins for a year. Granted, he didn't support the fact that I nursed our son for 3.25 years, but he wouldn't have said a negative word about it for the first year... Of course, he wasn't AROUND during any of that time, so it wasn't his call. ;)

Both me and my ex are quite healthy... He was never breastfed and I was breastfed for 2ish years. Bottle feeding and formula are not the death sentence that you are making them out to be and you will never 'win over' any bottle feeding mamas w/ that attitude.

Maree - posted on 11/23/2011

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Yeah i totally get what you are saying and you are clearly a better person than me for keeping your mouth shut about it...but i struggle, not just because i want everyone to experience it,it's healthier and many studies show that (depends what you believe though) but mostly because i believe whole heartedly that in general (Yes in general,not every single child)..breast fed babies are healthier than bottle fed ones,both in childhood and later life.

I am assuming since breast feeding rates are so low that my son will marry a bottle fed woman who will most likely bottle feed their future children therefore create less healthy children.....and so it goes on..and on !!!

I hate that thought and although it is judgmental,it is how i feel. I believe that it IS my business...and my right to judge. This is my children and grandchildrens future i am concerned with. When people say "why do you care,it's not your child?" well the reason i care is because my child will likely marry into this destructive cycle and all i can do is my best to stop him,he is a boy however and will always side with his wife (as men usually do).

I am hopeful that my daughter will be different even if my son cannot. I can't help but think i would be very disappointed in her if she did not adopt a "never give up" attitude to breast feeding (as i did for both my kids) and hopefully with my help and the many free services available,she will succeed and be very proud of herself in the end.

That's my thoughts anyway and I'm sorry if i offend any of the 1 to 3% of women who truly do have legitimate excuses for bottle feeding....just personally I really would prefer my kids...esp my son,to be with one of the 97% who can breast feed or even better...the very few % (unsure of the stats) that are willing to stick it out for more than a week.( and from experience I can say it is bloody hard to do but well worth it)

Laura Zoey - posted on 11/23/2011

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I'm fine if someone doesn't want to or isn't able to breastfeed their baby. I do -in my own head- feel bad because I and my kids have reaped such good benefits from breastfeeding, I couldn't imagine not. I feel like its the *best* way to feed since its the way we were designed. But for someone whose never done it u couldn't ever think they are really missing out. They don't know what it would be like, as I don't know what it would be like to not!
I guess I just feel like
Breastfeeding is amazing for me and my kids, we all enjoyit as a parenting style, comfort tool, nourishment devise, sleeping aid, etc and I couldn't imagine parenting without it.
I wish everyone could experience the amazing ness of breastfeeding that we have because to us, it's an irreplaceable feeling.

Sort of like when you eat an amazing dessert you want everyone to have it too so they can know the deliciousness of it too :)
That's why I try to help every mom breastfeed. And I try very hard not to judge moms who don't want to. Very hard :D

Maree - posted on 11/22/2011

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And they get defensive cause i am a mean nasty judgmental horrible person who is always always always right !!!!!!!!! Whoops did i just say that.. Sorry !

Stifler's - posted on 11/22/2011

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I think with breastfeeding debates people are just getting defensive. I don't think anyone agrees that formula is better for the baby just that some people just don't want to breastfeed or can't and their other option is formula.

Maree - posted on 11/22/2011

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You are right and Laurelei is right...I have to say though,that i can be judgemental...I can't help myself when i feel so passionate about something. I try to stop myself but my fingers just keep on typing... lol.

I feel this way about breast feeding,nothing gets me going more than that topic and nothing else other than that really bothers me...don't know why but it's just how it is so if people don't agree...and i'm sure most do not (as the majority of people bottle feed so of course they believe they are right) then fine,I don't care but i can say what i think and i can judge if i want to...if something i say is not allowed on this forum then i guess it will get deleted !!!

Oh Ps....Emma your comment gave me a good laugh !!!
You got a problem with teen mums etc ????????

Lindsey - posted on 11/22/2011

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Laurelei was bang on. It's great to have your own opinion, and it's great that you feely strongly about your own beliefs. Not so great when you impose those beliefs on others.

There is a HUGE difference in debating and judging. If you say "I wouldn't do that...." that's an opinion. If you say "you shouldn't do that..." that's judging.

Maree - posted on 11/22/2011

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Love to but I'm sure I'd just get shot down for my judgements and that would ruin my day !!!!

Stifler's - posted on 11/21/2011

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why duz peeple judge me 4 been a teen mom etc. i is juz as good a mum az u.