Woman kills husband

*Lisa* - posted on 05/28/2010 ( 20 moms have responded )

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1060...



That's the link but I'll just give you a brief summary. A woman killed her husband, first by trying to poison him, then shooting him in the head twice. She claims she has been physically abused by him for decades. He apparently gave her 4 pieces of paper with the names of their children on it, she had to randomly select one. Then after she had chosen one he told her he was going to kill that child. So she killed him.



What do you think her sentence should be??

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Something sounds wrong with her storey. Is she telling the truth or is she running this defence because she can? We don't know the full storey and a man still lost his life. It's not good that the public are often quick to assume that the man was a monster and the woman was automatically innocent when the real evidence suggests otherwise. Even if she is telling the truth it seems stange that she would keep trying to kill him over a period of hours with no compassion at all. I'm sorry to be the one to say something different to what I suspect most of you ladies will say, but something sounds wrong here. I've studied murder cases and even assisted on them. My instinct tells me that she had time to think of a storey and her lawyers have coached her to manipulate the system. I've got to say life for such a brutal murder unless there's evidence that's been left out of the article. I hope I am wrong on this one.

April - posted on 06/02/2010

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however, i bet she gets more time in prison than her husband would have got if he killed her first.

Sarah - posted on 06/01/2010

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Abuse does still get swept under the rug, all the time. I worked wih abused women and the reality is that most of them leave 7 times before they leave for good. And a lot Never leave. Abusive men are good at what they do, and they make a woman feel about 1 inch tall with no one to go to. They cut them off from everyone and scare them to death with threats of what willl happen if they ever try to leave. They prey on women who allready have low self esteem and who come from homes where abuse was the standard. The single most dangerous time for an abused woman is when she has left her abuser and has filed for a protective order.
If the court finds that he was abusive, let her go. If my husband threatened my child's life and i felt there was no way to escape, I would kill him instead. How many of you would let someone threaten your child's life? Especially is this man was that abusive, she would have every reason to believe he was capable of such a terrible thing..
If they find there was no abuse, murder should be the charge. Especially if she is lying about it, there is nothing that makes me moer angry than women who lie about abuse- it makes it 1000 times harder for the women who really Are being abused!!

Suzette - posted on 05/28/2010

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I'm torn as well. My bio father was extremely abusive to my mother for at least 6 years. They had good moments in those 6 years, but there was a ton of abuse, mental, physical, emotional, and verbal. (A whole lot of mental and physical.) She stuck around trying to make things work, she didn't want to be a single mother and she was hoping that he would change back to the person he was before his accident. (Wishful thinking, as most abused women have.)

When she got her way out, she took it and she also took my brother and I with her. She would've been more than happy to shoot him, but the town we lived in was a good ole boys town and they didn't believe a word of her abuse, regardless of the proof. Instead, she endured and left when he offered her plane tickets for christmas to visit her family and to take me and my brother. We just never went back. Thankfully she had some money saved up too, money she'd hidden from him.

It's easy to say a woman should just leave, but then I have to remember all those years that she never left and the reasons behind it. She tried, she just never got far. It's also easy to sway to the other side and say he deserved it, but we don't know the full story. There are women out there that use the "I was abused" story in order to do things like this and get away with it. It's not right, but it happens.

I agree with another poster, she should at least get manslaughter unless there is proof, at least psychological.

Amber - posted on 05/28/2010

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I'm torn...my dad was abusive for years...and NOBODY knew. We had called the cops a few times, but because it was a "domestic disturbance" and he was careful to not leave marks, nobody was ever arrested. When my mom divorced him, they couldn't even find the records of these visits (and the one they did find was 'inadmisable").
So, I do believe that it can happen and nobody knew about it. And maybe she did plan it, but maybe she had tried to get away before and failed, or had no money to run with...I just need more information to really know.
I feel horrible that it happened, and if she can't come up with some evidence (even if from the children) then I don't think it should be a defense.
I wish she would have taken legal action and not physical action. They are tougher on abuse than they were 15 years ago, and she probably would have gotten more help than we did.

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Pam - posted on 06/03/2010

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Hard to tell. I would want to know if she's lying. Do they have proof she isn't? If she's not? She's good for the insanity plea. I do not know what I would do in her case.

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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self defense laws depend on where you live. I'm in ths States, in West Virginia and our state law is it's ok to shoot someone in defense of your home, your person or your car. In this case, the woman was defending the life of her child. However, the evidence must have been compellling if the jury let her off.

April - posted on 06/03/2010

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i wonder what the evidence was? were there medical documents? it is very interesting that she got off completely. it's still wrong to kill someone even if you've been abused. i think it is okay to do if it's self defense. i am not clear on what the legal definition of self defense is. i thought you had to literally be fighting someone off of you?

Sarah - posted on 06/03/2010

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YAY! Maybe wife-beaters around the world will look at this and think twice before the smack a woman around!
The fact that her daughters were crying and relieved shows me that there is truth in her defense (why else would teenagers side with one parent over the other?)
I reiterate- I don't care who it is, if they threatened my child's life, I'd shoot them. No qualms.

Amanda - posted on 06/03/2010

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That's stupid... sure, she was abused for twenty years, I can't begin to imagine what that would be like. BUT that means she gets off for murdering the guy?!!?? If that were a guy that had been in that situation, he would have been found guilty I'm sure. That's crazy to me that they just let her walk...

*Lisa* - posted on 06/03/2010

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Well here is the outcome: She was cleared of both Manslaughter and Murder charges due to proof of 20 years of abuse.



A woman who served her husband curried prawns laced with sleeping tablets and then shot him twice in the head has been found not guilty of murder.



Susan Falls, 42, pleaded not guilty to murdering her husband, Rodney James Falls, in May 2006 at their Caloundra home, on the Sunshine Coast.



The jury also found her not guilty of the lesser charge of manslaughter.



Christopher Anthony Cumming-Creed, 25, Bradley James Coupe, 30, and Anthony James Hoare, 42, were also found not guilty of being accessories after the fact to the alleged murder.



The court had previously heard that with the assistance of the co-accused, the body of Mr Falls was hidden in Mapleton State Forest.



It took the jury just 90 minutes to reach the not guilty verdicts at 4.30pm (AEST) on Thursday.



The defence had urged the jury to reject the crown's case, saying there was ample evidence to prove Ms Falls was kept in a state of terror by her husband of 20 years, and that she killed him to save herself and her children.



After the verdict was delivered, Ms Falls' teary-eyed family, including her three daughters, cheered and hugged inside the courtroom.



However, Mr Falls' family stormed out of the courtroom, slamming the door, with one member exclaiming to Ms Falls: "You'll still get yours."



Outside the court, a tight-lipped Ms Falls only said she was "very relieved" by the result.



Mr Cumming-Creed told reporters it had been a stressful three weeks.



"I'm going to concentrate on my own life," he said.

April - posted on 06/02/2010

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if she's telling the truth, she should get a reduced sentence or a lesser charge than murder. if she's not, then i would say life only because she poisoning someone and then trying to shoot them...well it requires thought. this wouldn't be a case of a crime of passion or even temporary insanity.

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I have no way of knowing if she is telling the truth or not. If she is? Therapy. If not? Life in prison.

Emma - posted on 06/01/2010

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If in fact her kids back up her statements regarding the Abuse and if there is evidence of the earlier death threats towards her other family members and there are other external sources that can say she was isolated, and controlled by this man, people who have here shouting from there house or seen bruises on her then i would lead towards manslaughter with the min sentence as she may of really believed there was no other way out. plus i doubt she poses any danger to anyone else.
The fact she tried to cover it up makes me a little dubious and that she had people help her cover it up makes me wonder if this was her only option... as friends who are willing to help you cover up a murder im sure would of helped you disappear with your kids if she had asked.

*Lisa* - posted on 05/28/2010

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Yeah it's tricky. I know some people are quick to say that she should have left the man, but it's not as easy as it sounds. It's easy to say from a bi-stander position but if you've ever really been in an abusive relationship, it's very different.
Still, something doesn't add up. I think the kids may bring some insight to the truth behind whether the beatings were real. Also, there were a few other people that helped her cover it up etc which sounds sus too. I'd hate to be the jury on this one!

Lyndsay - posted on 05/28/2010

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Honestly... I get so torn over these things. In her position, I would do the same thing. If some man was beating me for years and threatened to harm my child, I'd shoot the motherfucker too.

Meghan - posted on 05/28/2010

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I want to believe it..and I guess this article leaves too much out. I would assume if she was being beatedn there would maybe be a recorded trip or 2 to the doctor (probably with a cover) or maybe the kids where asked to testify to witnessing the abuse? Or some family memebers may have seen something? Is there a motive for killing him-llife insurance? Does she have a b/f on the side? Somethin really doesn't add up here!

All I do know is is someone threatened to kill my child, I would considering doing the same thing! And some people do snap-esp those who have suffered years of abuse!

Amanda - posted on 05/28/2010

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So, she murdered someone, after thinking it out, covered it up, and doesn't have the evidence that her kid was ever even in danger... She should get life. If she has been abused for DECADES, I'm sorry, but she either should've left, or gotten help somehow or another. Or you would think one of her kids had said something by now, we're not living in a time where that's just swept under the rug anymore, come on now. One of her kids would've gone to the cops, or a teacher, adult friend, SOMETHING, by now. Once she had killed her husband, she should've turned herself in right away, she probably could've played the insanity card, like everyone else does nowadays. Obviously anyone who murders someone isn't right in the head, but whatever... she murdered her husband, not technically in self defense, because no one was in immediate danger at that precise moment. If it were me, I would've probably took my kids and left, or killed him and either made damn sure he could never be found or turned myself in right away.

Tah - posted on 05/28/2010

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you know there are alot of women who are abused for years and they stay because they are beaten down, degraded and conditioned to think they deserve itsome grew up with abuse, and some are scared crapless studies show more women get killed when they try to leave than the ones who stay and get iked(tina and ike).....i think something snapped and in her mind she was saving the children..who knows if he was really going to kill the child but i wouldn't be the one to take any chances....people who are abused have a different mindset than those who aren't. I would have to say, maybe she had a lapse..she doesn't deserve life if the abuse and threat was real...i am not even sure about manslaughter.some people snap..realize what they have done and then lie and try to cover it up..i say do a pysch eval and see exactly where her head is..battered womens syndrome is real and sometimes overlooked because everyone thinks, why didn't she just leave?..but walk a mile..

Ashley - posted on 05/28/2010

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Damnit...if she would have come forth as soon as he died instead of hiding and lying about it, she wouldn't be screwed. I'd want to hear the kid's side before deciding anything since a lot of women use that defense. NOT saying she is lying, but I would like some proof. As of now, I'd say manslaughter.

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